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Morganite User ID: 11765896  United States06/05/2012 04:13 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God gave us the gift of suffering while he chills out in paradise. Therefore: God is a bit of an asshole. :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
| Morganite (OP) User ID: 11765896 United States06/05/2012 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you forgetting about Jesus' suffering? Quoting: Morganite Also, don't forget about "the glory that follows this life and that our suffering isn't worthy to compare" with the bliss in paradise that follows. So what you're saying is That god is a sadomasochist and expects us to follow his lead? :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
| Morganite (OP) User ID: 11765896 United States06/05/2012 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, God the son (Jesus) doesn't ask us to suffer as much as he did on the cross. And we don't suffer to earn our salvation, but it proves we are his followers if we do suffer with a good attitude. Like, I have to but up with an a_ _ for a co-worker who is also a brown noser and lies about us to the boss behind our backs. After getting mad about it, I asked God to help me deal with it and continue to put up with her. morganite |
| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, God the son (Jesus) doesn't ask us to suffer as much as he did on the cross. And we don't suffer to earn our salvation, but it proves we are his followers if we do suffer with a good attitude. Quoting: Morganite Like, I have to but up with an a_ _ for a co-worker who is also a brown noser and lies about us to the boss behind our backs. After getting mad about it, I asked God to help me deal with it and continue to put up with her. So dying on the cross is worse than: Child abuse Starving to death Spending your whole life in a basement in austria getting raped by your dad The holocaust Cancer ???? :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1400367 United States06/05/2012 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Demonic, mind telling us what you personally believe? Are you an atheist? Agnostic? Are you into alternative spirituality? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400367 I believe in God, and i believe that he is a bit of an asshole. edit: exchange "believe" for "know" Last Edited by Ardhanarishvara on 06/05/2012 04:46 PM :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
| Morganite (OP) User ID: 11765896 United States06/05/2012 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those are caused by Satan and Sin - God put us in paradise(Eden) and we chose to follow Satan and those things are the results. But thanks be to God, he provided a way for us to get back in fellowship with him thru his son. And he's returning to set this earth back to perfection by getting rid of evil things and people. Anyone who is o.K. with God's above plan is invited to join him. morganite |
| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those are caused by Satan and Sin - God put us in paradise(Eden) and we chose to follow Satan and those things are the results. Quoting: Morganite But thanks be to God, he provided a way for us to get back in fellowship with him thru his son. And he's returning to set this earth back to perfection by getting rid of evil things and people. Anyone who is o.K. with God's above plan is invited to join him. So, whilst god COULD'VE created us without these sinful urges, he decided to include them? :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok let's imagine i'm god for a sec. OK HEY GUYS I'M OMNIPOTENT I CAN DO ANYTHING BUT I'M BORED GUESS I'LL CREATE A WORLD WITH SOME PEOPLE hmmm What will those people be like? Well, they can do lots of good stuff - love each other, share, treat everything nicely... Good start! hmmm.... What if i make it so they want to rape and kill one another? HEHEHEHE :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
| Morganite (OP) User ID: 11765896 United States06/05/2012 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, we weren't born with "sinful urges", we were born with a will to chose to believe God or not. Quoting: Morganite Have you gone through some bad stuff that has left you thinking a little badly about God? I know God. I know he's a bit of an asshole. NOT EXCLUSIVELY - he has good traits too. But he is a BIT of an asshole. If we aren't born with sinful urges, why did he make something else (you call it satan) which is capable of giving us those urges? :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States06/05/2012 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most normal people understand Goodness when they see it. It's mostly church folk who suffer a perception problem. Hell is a pagan myth with no basis in the scripture. If we look into the original Hebrew and Greek in which it was issued, there is no burning afterlife. God uses metaphorical fire to purify. There comes a time when salvation is mandatory. Against popular christian belief, He won't be writing anyone off. |
| Morganite (OP) User ID: 11765896 United States06/05/2012 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope - God didn't make them that way - they became that way after choosing to follow Satan. But He did provide a way for us to get out of that sinful pattern of evil.... If we choose to come back to him..... what about you? morganite |
| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope - God didn't make them that way - they became that way after choosing to follow Satan. But He did provide a way for us to get out of that sinful pattern of evil.... If we choose to come back to him..... what about you? BUT HE MADE THE WORLD WITH THESE THINGS AS A POSSIBILITY. Why not make a world where it is IMPOSSIBLE to do bad things? A world where free will to do a wide variety of good things exists, but the idea to do bad things NEVER OCCURS to us?! Answer: He is a sadist. :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States06/05/2012 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also: what if you're wrong, and god is a deceiver - that all the rules you follow are actually sins? :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
| Morganite (OP) User ID: 11765896 United States06/05/2012 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States06/05/2012 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I disagree, But don't want to digress because I'm busy fishing and need your hand in that task. Quoting: Anonymous Coward Hell is a pagan myth with no basis in the scripture. If we look into the original Hebrew and Greek in which it was issued, there is no burning afterlife. God uses metaphorical fire to purify. There comes a time when salvation is mandatory. Against popular christian belief, He won't be writing anyone off. Truth sells itself. It's actually a Person. |
| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I disagree, But don't want to digress because I'm busy fishing and need your hand in that task. Quoting: Anonymous Coward Hell is a pagan myth with no basis in the scripture. If we look into the original Hebrew and Greek in which it was issued, there is no burning afterlife. God uses metaphorical fire to purify. There comes a time when salvation is mandatory. Against popular christian belief, He won't be writing anyone off."i disagree, but i have nothing to back my position up with and am too afraid i might be wrong." :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
| Morganite (OP) User ID: 11765896 United States06/05/2012 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolutely not. Psalms says "the wicked are estranged from the womb". Surely you don't believe that people *chose* their fate as mere embryos. . .? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578  Please, don't derail - I'm busy fishing and you could help out. I'm not here to debate christian doctrine, I'm here to point the unsaved to Jesus. They're born that way because Adam and Eve chose for the human race. - Now back on topic. morganite |
| Morganite (OP) User ID: 11765896 United States06/05/2012 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States06/05/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolutely not. Psalms says "the wicked are estranged from the womb". Surely you don't believe that people *chose* their fate as mere embryos. . .? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 Please, don't derail - I'm busy fishing and you could help out. I'm not here to debate christian doctrine, I'm here to point the unsaved to Jesus. They're born that way because Adam and Eve chose for the human race. - Now back on topic. Ah, my bad. If you're gonna post unscriptural crap, I'm-a gonna speak up. |
| Morganite (OP) User ID: 11765896 United States06/05/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also: what if you're wrong, and god is a deceiver - that all the rules you follow are actually sins? Quoting: Demonic God doesn't deceive those who are truely seeking him and he doesn't ask us to follow sinful rules. He doesn't have ulteriour (sp?) motives. He loves us, that's why he sent us his son so we could get back with him - become sons and daughters and have a father relationship with him. Last Edited by Morganite on 06/05/2012 05:07 PM morganite |
| Demonic User ID: 12662903 06/05/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also: what if you're wrong, and god is a deceiver - that all the rules you follow are actually sins? Quoting: Demonic God doesn't deceive those who are truely seeking him and he doesn't ask us to follow sinful rules. He doesn't have alteriour (sp?) motives. He loves us, that's why he sent us his son so we could get back with him - become sons and daughters and have a father relationship with him. But what makes you SURE he's not deceiving you? Because he promised?! :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
