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Temperature spikes in No. 4 fuel pool after pump burns — Backup also breaks

 
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what does this mean for the spent fuel in reactor 4?
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I Don't understand why the japs' geiger counters are showing low levels, why aren't the levels High in japan accoring to the japs that post on here? Is it becuase the wind is blowing all the radiation to the East?
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Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links (Page 49)
hi waterbug could you tell me what we are actually seeing in the picture you posted taken at night through tepcos pointscope, what is that blue? is it neutrons?, like what were seen at chernobyl "the rainbow of colours" when the top came off the reactor?. or is it heat?.
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Cherenkov effect.

[link to www.google.com]

The shape of the cherenkov and it's relative position led us to believe there were continuing criticalities in fuel pools. Turns out it was three reactors and ?fuel pools. We couldn't tell from the view.

The cooling stopped. The water turned to steam. The meltdowns happened. Covering that mess back up with seawater caused the cherenkov.

Tepco and the associated agencies and gov'ts said nil about this for three months.

It was reactor 3 and SFP3 that we were seeing I believe.

:the glow:

:diagram1:
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^^Yep. I really wish we had been wrong and over reacting. This whole thing still pisses me off!
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Thanks I couldn't remember if 2 or 3 but I recall the issue was no one could guess if sea water was capable of causing a reaction/criticality/fission to occur, not like these guys are scientists or anything.......but we have to shut down coal burning plants in the USA becaus eof pollution?
Radiation is culmulative, the more exposure, no matter what amount, builds up in all living things. The japanese victims will be radioactive 10,000 years from now if future archeologists dug them up.sfan
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what does this mean for the spent fuel in reactor 4?
 Quoting: CultivatingMass

Zirconium breakdown...melting and then fire, a fire that cant be extinguished.
An INCREDIBLE amount of smoke filled severe radiation (Used Fuel is WAY more radioactive than new)
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I Don't understand why the japs' geiger counters are showing low levels, why aren't the levels High in japan accoring to the japs that post on here? Is it becuase the wind is blowing all the radiation to the East?
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Bingo...and there are many EXTREMELY high rad readings over there as well.
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It is only a matter of time until this problem is everyones problem. We are all just waiting for this massive release of radiation and no one can do shit about it.
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It is only a matter of time until this problem is everyones problem. We are all just waiting for this massive release of radiation and no one can do shit about it.
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Superman will be showing up any time now...

superman

Or maybe one of these dudes...seal

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It is only a matter of time until this problem is everyones problem. We are all just waiting for this massive release of radiation and no one can do shit about it.
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It is already everyone's problem. People just can't wrap around their head, a risk that takes decades to result in death by cancer.

This is not tomorrow everyone is going to die. This sort of poisoning just does not work that way. It is actually far uglier and more painful than that, and I guarantee you there will be denyability right up to the end when you or I have cancer.

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The pump at the Number 4 reactor building pool stopped working on Monday night after becoming burnt.

[...]

Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, used a backup pump, but on Tuesday, it also broke.

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TEPCO says the pool’s temperature at 11 AM..........

[link to enenews.com]

[Im not saying a word.....]

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YES! DOOM TIME!
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It is only a matter of time until this problem is everyones problem. We are all just waiting for this massive release of radiation and no one can do shit about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12177606


It is already everyone's problem. People just can't wrap around their head, a risk that takes decades to result in death by cancer.

This is not tomorrow everyone is going to die. This sort of poisoning just does not work that way. It is actually far uglier and more painful than that, and I guarantee you there will be denyability right up to the end when you or I have cancer.
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Insidious. A slow dance with death..

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Lies, lies, and more lies. They won't be telling us the truth. Money is involved and money comes before human life in the minds of the ones who are responsible for telling the truth. We have to ferret out tidbits of truth on our own. Thank you, RT for doing that for us.


Tokyo- (PanOrient News) The Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Plant Number 4 reactor presents a security problem for the entire world, Mitsuhei Murata, Japan's former ambassador to Switzerland said.

Fukushima Daiichi plants are "not under control at all.....................

Article continues with:
He concluded that "the lessons of Fukushima have reminded the whole world of the great principle for humanity. The possibility for unbearable consequences must be zero" and stressed the need for “the shift from priority of economy to priority toward life. The true cause for the present crisis is lack of ethics."
[link to www.panorientnews.com]
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TOKYO—As the Japanese government pushes to restart a pair of nuclear reactors, critics and some experts warn that safety measures may be taking a back seat to the desire to power a fragile Japanese economic recovery through the peak demand summer months.

This week, such concerns prompted 117 lawmakers from Japan's ruling party to submit a petition to Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda urging "greater caution'' over restarting the reactors.

The focus of attention is on the No. 3 and 4 units at the Oi power plant in Fukui prefecture, western Japan. Of the country's 50 nuclear reactors, all of which are currently offline amid safety concerns, these are the first in line to be restarted, and the government could start the process as early as this week.
[link to online.wsj.com]
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Thursday, June 7, 2012

NISA to let reactor run beyond 40 years
Kyodo

The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency plans to conclude that the Mihama nuclear power plant's No. 2 reactor in Fukui Prefecture is safe enough to operate beyond 40 years, the period of operation that requires safety assessments, sources said Wednesday..............................
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Although reactor 1 at the Fukushima No. 1 plant had been operating for almost 40 years when it was crippled last year, the agency has not urged utilities to take additional measures to deal with potential dangers connected with aging, saying it is not clear whether that was a factor in the crisis.

[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

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