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Victimization; Keep the Sheep In-Line

 
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This may be long, but it's a goodie. I wrote this about 3 years ago.



It is unfortunate that we live in a present reality where the only way for global civilizations to transcend past pain and fear is to go through it at such intense polarities; polarities that create extreme dissension and conflict. We can blame such adverse conditions on the Illuminati, Rothschilds, Bilderbergs, Rockefellers, and the remaining ilk of Secret Societies, benign aliens, Luciferians, government conspiracies, whatever you want. But in the act of blaming, we ourselves become the creators of the tribulations we experience. We can say that we have allowed such behavior to be cast upon us. Is that statement one that you can swallow? It may be a difficult fault to accept, but in its very essence it is a Truth. By pointing the finger to someone else, we have completely misunderstood and distorted the nature of life and essence of Free Will. For individuals, casting blame is a simple way of dissolving responsibility. This dissolution comes at a price; the price of self empowerment. Relieving the self of responsibility pulls one’s self distant from free will choices. To cast blame on to anything else but yourself, is the casting away of your ability to learn life lessons in our pursuit and attainment of Wisdom. Blaming someone else in an attempt at temporary relief or temporary fix to discomfort is a direct result of egotistical paradigms. It is a giving away of your inner strength, free will, and inner growth.

The idea of victimization is a classic form of suppression, an easy manipulation of the populace the end goal of which is to bury the eternal human drive of progress, keeping that drive in a stasis field of inaction. To be subject to victim tendencies is to give up your base human rights in a subtle, therefore brilliant, path to the disempowerment of individuals and individuality. Whether it comes from governmental institutions in the form of welfare, subsidies, and the numerous other types of programs that invisibly manipulate personal motivation and extract will from its disciples by encouraging participants to denounce the prime objectivity of the human condition; Betterment. Teaching societies of victim-hood is a preying on those individuals momentarily in need of immediate help and by strongly influencing those individuals to freely participate in these systems designed to disempower.

The ideology of victim-hood flourishes and branches itself in a self perpetuating manner into other areas of gross manipulation. In the U.S., frivolous lawsuits come to mind, feigning individual empowerment through the constructed claim, ‘I am a victim’. We have and are witnessing this illusory gleaming gem for the temporary fix of individualistic problems as they swell into unhealthy portions as the ones forfeiting to responsibility... take advantage instead.

This is one of many manipulation projects designed to disempower particular segments of populations for generations by giving them easy way outs to exist in relative comfort without the need of personal exploration or the valuable life lessons earned by self improvement. Other avenues using these various long-term degradating systems arise from our many religious institutions birthing this practice by its leaders since their inception; practicing various forms of victim-hood by convincing followers that, from the very beginning of our time here on Earth, we are all the victims of evil tendencies and are the physical embodiment of original sin.

The ‘victim’ concept teaches that the power to absolve our negative tendencies comes not from within the self (as it healthily should) but from without the self, from a source of power external to our selves. This further tract of manipulation effectively gives away your individualistic power to some falsely invented external force as a means to solve individual problems by dangling the carrot to bait their insecurities.

In denying our spirit the growth and experience that comes from personal solutions to personal crisis, we shackle the foremost tool that binds spiritual growth and conscious evolution. It is a surrendering, and resultant stagnation, of the gloriously unique personal spirit to a false ideal playing out as a savior, a savior disembodied from your true beingness imprisoning mankind, keeping steadfast the strength of individualism from percolating through to the overall collective conscious, thank the workings of Carl Jung. Organizations which prefer unending dominance will – as their base tenant – infuse the false basic premise of placing blame and the constituent victim-hood ideology on that which is outside of you. This clever formula strips the divine right of personal control and personal responsibility, diluting your own fortitude; however that fortitude should manifest in your life experiences. “Keep the sheep in line.”

Awareness of these debilitating tactics is surfacing across our collective, but possibly at a pace much too slow. People en masse are beginning to recognize disempowering social patterns created and vigorously maintained by our various institutions, but have yet to rise in tipping point numbers to reverse the overall effect in society as a whole. Though admittedly smaller segments of populations are displaying resistance to its poisonous grip and are therefore remaining resourceful unto themselves.

So rise up and take responsibility for your life. Cast the disempowering thought contextualized in that of being a victim. In so doing you put the control of your life, your spirit, back in your hands. In the words of Carlos Castaneda, Live like a Warrior.

Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 09/17/2012 05:13 PM
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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I know how GLP doesn't like long posts, but I think this is a very important topic.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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great post

Agree
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
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All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.
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Force does not constitute right... obedience is due only to legitimate powers.
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great post

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nacholibre
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Thanks for doing your part to expose this element in the mind control paradigm. 5 stars
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Well written.

This is exactly the process of Nazification of a populace, too. Induce a victim mentality within a people, organize the "victims", then unleash them against "those responsible".

OWS is small example of this mechanism at work. Merely the cartoon prior to the full-length feature that's scheduled, btw.
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Thanks for doing your part to expose this element in the mind control paradigm. 5 stars
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Yep. It is like it is right in front of everyone, but no one can see it.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Nice post SS, Too bad in the near future people will have no idea what you are speaking too in that writing. The world is becoming so dumbed down that they are almost in a trance like state...

It sometimes sucks to be awake!
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Nice post SS, Too bad in the near future people will have no idea what you are speaking too in that writing. The world is becoming so dumbed down that they are almost in a trance like state...

It sometimes sucks to be awake!
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Yeah, it seems that it is heading that way. I agree, and it is disconcerting. I can't speak really for the people of the world in general, but you can definitely witness the dumbing down of America. And, its not even education! It is common sense. That is why it's disconcerting.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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the only enemy is oneself. a true warrior can defeat an enemy without destroying Life of the enemy. if you can defeat yourself without destroying your self. then you rule your self.

then you become star man
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Thank you so very much for this!
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hugs


Thank you so very much for this!
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hugs

Was it good timing?
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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This is a good post and true but what really is important to say is that this is only possible for those that live in and from the mind/ego. For victimization is an ego trait and doesn't apply to those who live in and from the heart as the heart sees beyond this ego trick and it can't affect you unless you let it and then again it takes your ego to allow it, not the heart.hf
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Thank you so very much for this!
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hugs

Was it good timing?
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Yes ~ from a different perspective.hf
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I am too nice and never say no to people. Most of these people seem really nice and I want to help them, but it always gets out of hand. I always end up becoming their slave bitch. it makes money, but I dont care for money. I do not need money. It makes me depressed and I am in so deep in some cases that these people rely on me.

I need to take control of my life. but I don't want to make people feel bad.

any advice? it seems similar to what you're saying. I am making others the victim, and feel i need to help them.

fuck my life.
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This is a good post and true but what really is important to say is that this is only possible for those that live in and from the mind/ego. For victimization is an ego trait and doesn't apply to those who live in and from the heart as the heart sees beyond this ego trick and it can't affect you unless you let it and then again it takes your ego to allow it, not the heart.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Yes, I wrote the article below in the same time-frame as the original post, as they are related. That was a great catch, Seeker of Truth.



Thread: The Ego and Societal Transparency
Do not try to put your ego away. Don't try to put it down. It is a natural process. In natural processes, the harder you try to push something away, the harder it is to push away. You have to recognize it and let the emotions that it brings forth go through you without dwelling on it. This is all simplicity. Wisdom is recognizing the thought energy (because you have experienced it before) and not acting upon it. It is like in meditation when a thought comes to you but you do not dwell on it. It passes through you and upon coming out of meditation you do not even remember what those thoughts were. This is part of the process of awakening. It is awareness of our eternal selves no matter the form. Spiritual growth is the ability to transcend dualism. It is not the ability to push it away.

The time fast approaches to redefine your ego-self. This will be a difficult shift for the forces of everyday living in materialism will restrict the casting off of unnecessary Service-to-Self ego patterns that subsume so many. This pattern has rooted itself into most aspects of modern human relations as is being increased greatly due to the advent of the ‘I Want/Need That’ generation governing global economies.

Realization of this redefining of the ego is a central theme in gaining insight into ways of achieving mastery of certain divine practices and, perhaps more importantly, dissolving fear based paradigms.

Imagine societies living in a state of Service-to-Others as all people have redefined the long held perspective that Service-to-Self is not the answer. This grand vision of people living and working for others, for the common good of societies in whole, cannot manifest when a small percentage of people still live and work as Service-to-Self. The destructive patterns inherent in Service-to-Self ideologies, patterns of manipulation and falsehoods, would easily trump those who are living in Service-to-Others. There would be only one true way of diverting Service-to-Self, and that is: transparency. True transparency of all records and agendas contained within societies would be mandatory for all societal endeavors. And all endeavors are for the purpose of expanding life with an enlightened mindset that we are all of one. The future fallacies that evolve from hidden motives and manipulative agendas will no more dominate, for they are exposed from the first manifestation of thought in those not enlightened enough to grasp and contain the awesome responsibility that would spring forth from this vision. Everyone, every idea, is put forward not for one’s own self gain, but the gain for the entirety of humankind. Service-to-Self would dissolve as soon everyone would have what they desire in the Service-to-Others ideology.

That single card of ascension, transparency, will be the cornerstone of the new world. Just that one idea would change the world, change human life; it would catapult us into the second Garden of Eden. That transparency will occur when the human species comes to know, through an expanded awareness of life, that we are all One and the same without separation from ourselves, or the universe we are a part of. This may sound like some grand notion beyond the Egocentric infested mind of the human collective. But I tell you this: this awareness of transparency is now in the process of being realized as a Collective Conscious. At its base simple beginnings we can see it in our global communications systems. We have the ability to access massive amounts of individual thoughts and feelings contained within an ideological bubble of people as easily as accessing the web. It is getting more and more difficult for persons of the old manifesto to keep their secrets, keep their populace from knowing what is going on in the world by censoring media. For in the very censoring of that global media to certain peoples is an act of deceit which the victims will not stand for.

In order to reach this early state of transparency, individuals must be open to the idea and acknowledge the base truth of where this ideal must sprout from, and gain its momentum from. This first stage, first step, is the most difficult and trying stage of Global Consciousness due to the strength of the individual ego that we as humans indoctrinate our youth into. And later in life the conscious effort of absolving egocentric acts becomes much more difficult to practice. The surrendering of egocentric behavioral patterns during the daily routines of work and relationships and the consequences assured to ensue, runs counterproductive and counterintuitive to the reality of the business world.

How can we come to practice this weaning away from the Service-to-Self fear based paradigm that our global cultures resonate with, without the consequences of inevitable job instability and loss of income that the majority of us would experience if we decided to release our oh-so-important ego from our daily activities? Well, a different environment is needed, a different place that we could practice and actually experience the process without jeopardizing our livelihoods. Where…? What are you talking about? I am telling you that that ideal environment resides close to your spirit… in lucid dreams.

Experiencing this awakening awareness, you will begin to realize, is a gradual process. The concepts are too evolved for the human condition to make in one leap. It is structured to be taken in steps. And as each successful step is reached and consciously manifested into your daily life, the next step is realized as possible and attainable… and taken. And as each step attained is further built upon, new doorways of enlightenment will open before you. And soon it is discovered that the steps and doorways are never-ending.

Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 06/06/2012 04:34 PM
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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I am too nice and never say no to people. Most of these people seem really nice and I want to help them, but it always gets out of hand. I always end up becoming their slave bitch. it makes money, but I dont care for money. I do not need money. It makes me depressed and I am in so deep in some cases that these people rely on me.

I need to take control of my life. but I don't want to make people feel bad.

any advice? it seems similar to what you're saying. I am making others the victim, and feel i need to help them.

fuck my life.
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Yes, I have advice. Make yourself number 1. You will be able to become more when you make yourself number one. It is not about making people feel bad. It is about not letting people take advantage of you. Imagine what you can do, what anyone could do, if people stopped letting people take advantage of things! It is not healthy to either party to continue the pattern after it is known that they are 'using' you. There is a helping hand out of true need, and there is someone taking advantage of a helping hand because they know they can. The latter is a self-defeating construct. It can never be sustained as it ends up feeding off itself.

Do not let people make you feel bad for not giving help! Giving help when it is truly needed is one of the most beautiful, incredible, awe-inspiring gifts we can feel. Don't let others take that feeling away from you, or taint that gift with selfishness.

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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I'm not a victim, never will be. I'm a survivor or I'll be a proud dead woman but never a victim
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I am too nice and never say no to people. Most of these people seem really nice and I want to help them, but it always gets out of hand. I always end up becoming their slave bitch. it makes money, but I dont care for money. I do not need money. It makes me depressed and I am in so deep in some cases that these people rely on me.

I need to take control of my life. but I don't want to make people feel bad.

any advice? it seems similar to what you're saying. I am making others the victim, and feel i need to help them.

fuck my life.
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Yes, I have advice. Make yourself number 1. You will be able to become more when you make yourself number one. It is not about making people feel bad. It is about not letting people take advantage of you. Imagine what you can do, what anyone could do, if people stopped letting people take advantage of things! It is not healthy to either party to continue the pattern after it is known that they are 'using' you. There is a helping hand out of true need, and there is someone taking advantage of a helping hand because they know they can. The latter is a self-defeating construct. It can never be sustained as it ends up feeding off itself.

Do not let people make you feel bad for not giving help! Giving help when it is truly needed is one of the most beautiful, incredible, awe-inspiring gifts we can feel. Don't let others take that feeling away from you, or taint that gift with selfishness.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Nice ~ and how do you get rid of guilt? Is there a quick way to eliminate this emotion? Cuz that one sucks~tounge
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So rise up and take responsibility for your life. Cast the disempowering thought contextualized in that of being a victim. In so doing you put the control of your life, your spirit, back in your hands. In the words of Carlos Castaneda, Live like a Warrior.
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I'm not a victim, never will be. I'm a survivor or I'll be a proud dead woman but never a victim
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rockon
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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I am too nice and never say no to people. Most of these people seem really nice and I want to help them, but it always gets out of hand. I always end up becoming their slave bitch. it makes money, but I dont care for money. I do not need money. It makes me depressed and I am in so deep in some cases that these people rely on me.

I need to take control of my life. but I don't want to make people feel bad.

any advice? it seems similar to what you're saying. I am making others the victim, and feel i need to help them.

fuck my life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1578937


Yes, I have advice. Make yourself number 1. You will be able to become more when you make yourself number one. It is not about making people feel bad. It is about not letting people take advantage of you. Imagine what you can do, what anyone could do, if people stopped letting people take advantage of things! It is not healthy to either party to continue the pattern after it is known that they are 'using' you. There is a helping hand out of true need, and there is someone taking advantage of a helping hand because they know they can. The latter is a self-defeating construct. It can never be sustained as it ends up feeding off itself.

Do not let people make you feel bad for not giving help! Giving help when it is truly needed is one of the most beautiful, incredible, awe-inspiring gifts we can feel. Don't let others take that feeling away from you, or taint that gift with selfishness.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Hmm lookin out for number 1. I'm going to try it tomorrow. see what happens.

I actually feel that some day I may snap. like that movie with jim carey.... what was that movie?

Thanks for the advice :)

I am too nice and never say no to people. Most of these people seem really nice and I want to help them, but it always gets out of hand. I always end up becoming their slave bitch. it makes money, but I dont care for money. I do not need money. It makes me depressed and I am in so deep in some cases that these people rely on me.

I need to take control of my life. but I don't want to make people feel bad.

any advice? it seems similar to what you're saying. I am making others the victim, and feel i need to help them.

fuck my life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1578937


Yes, I have advice. Make yourself number 1. You will be able to become more when you make yourself number one. It is not about making people feel bad. It is about not letting people take advantage of you. Imagine what you can do, what anyone could do, if people stopped letting people take advantage of things! It is not healthy to either party to continue the pattern after it is known that they are 'using' you. There is a helping hand out of true need, and there is someone taking advantage of a helping hand because they know they can. The latter is a self-defeating construct. It can never be sustained as it ends up feeding off itself.

Do not let people make you feel bad for not giving help! Giving help when it is truly needed is one of the most beautiful, incredible, awe-inspiring gifts we can feel. Don't let others take that feeling away from you, or taint that gift with selfishness.
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Nice ~ and how do you get rid of guilt? Is there a quick way to eliminate this emotion? Cuz that one sucks~tounge
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/this is the problem that I foresee. GUILT. uggg.
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I am too nice and never say no to people. Most of these people seem really nice and I want to help them, but it always gets out of hand. I always end up becoming their slave bitch. it makes money, but I dont care for money. I do not need money. It makes me depressed and I am in so deep in some cases that these people rely on me.

I need to take control of my life. but I don't want to make people feel bad.

any advice? it seems similar to what you're saying. I am making others the victim, and feel i need to help them.

fuck my life.
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Yes, I have advice. Make yourself number 1. You will be able to become more when you make yourself number one. It is not about making people feel bad. It is about not letting people take advantage of you. Imagine what you can do, what anyone could do, if people stopped letting people take advantage of things! It is not healthy to either party to continue the pattern after it is known that they are 'using' you. There is a helping hand out of true need, and there is someone taking advantage of a helping hand because they know they can. The latter is a self-defeating construct. It can never be sustained as it ends up feeding off itself.

Do not let people make you feel bad for not giving help! Giving help when it is truly needed is one of the most beautiful, incredible, awe-inspiring gifts we can feel. Don't let others take that feeling away from you, or taint that gift with selfishness.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Nice ~ and how do you get rid of guilt? Is there a quick way to eliminate this emotion? Cuz that one sucks~tounge
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Guilt is a tough one because it is buried deep in the psyche. I would examine the feeling and see if it is truly relevant to have that feeling in the given situation. Guilt can somewhat be an automated response in people. I relate it somewhat to panic. If you have the mental fortitude to examine why you are feeling it while you are feeling it, then you can begin controlling it. Its like if you feel an onset of panic taking hold, but instead you take control of situation, then the automatic response can begin to be controlled.

If you are doing something out of guilt, than you really need to examine what you are doing. This goes back to getting control of your life back in your hands, instead of letting emotions rule it. It is great to have emotions, but when the ones that make you feel bad (anger, guilt, jealousy, etc) begin running the way you live your life, then you have to change. The bad emotions or feelings are of the same self-defeating construct. If you don't control it, and they control you, then you get it feeding off itself, and that type of construct cannot be sustained.

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I am too nice and never say no to people. Most of these people seem really nice and I want to help them, but it always gets out of hand. I always end up becoming their slave bitch. it makes money, but I dont care for money. I do not need money. It makes me depressed and I am in so deep in some cases that these people rely on me.

I need to take control of my life. but I don't want to make people feel bad.

any advice? it seems similar to what you're saying. I am making others the victim, and feel i need to help them.

fuck my life.
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Yes, I have advice. Make yourself number 1. You will be able to become more when you make yourself number one. It is not about making people feel bad. It is about not letting people take advantage of you. Imagine what you can do, what anyone could do, if people stopped letting people take advantage of things! It is not healthy to either party to continue the pattern after it is known that they are 'using' you. There is a helping hand out of true need, and there is someone taking advantage of a helping hand because they know they can. The latter is a self-defeating construct. It can never be sustained as it ends up feeding off itself.

Do not let people make you feel bad for not giving help! Giving help when it is truly needed is one of the most beautiful, incredible, awe-inspiring gifts we can feel. Don't let others take that feeling away from you, or taint that gift with selfishness.
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Nice ~ and how do you get rid of guilt? Is there a quick way to eliminate this emotion? Cuz that one sucks~tounge
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If i may answer... Guilt too is an ego based trait that the ego manifests when it thinks it is losing control of your life. It is a common trick to try and regain control. The first step to overcoming is to realize this so you can then recognize it for what it is and then work on it so it can't affect you. The ultimate way to fix all ego tricks and prevent them from running your life is to quit being ego centric and move to a heart centric life. This means to live life from the heart instead of the mind/ego. The heart is the natural way to live a full and rewarding life without the usual pitfalls we find ourselves in. It is a hard transition to master but will pay off big time once mastered. You will find yourself happy, content and secure in your being without all the drama. Never give up or the ego will win.hf

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I am too nice and never say no to people. Most of these people seem really nice and I want to help them, but it always gets out of hand. I always end up becoming their slave bitch. it makes money, but I dont care for money. I do not need money. It makes me depressed and I am in so deep in some cases that these people rely on me.

I need to take control of my life. but I don't want to make people feel bad.

any advice? it seems similar to what you're saying. I am making others the victim, and feel i need to help them.

fuck my life.
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Yes, I have advice. Make yourself number 1. You will be able to become more when you make yourself number one. It is not about making people feel bad. It is about not letting people take advantage of you. Imagine what you can do, what anyone could do, if people stopped letting people take advantage of things! It is not healthy to either party to continue the pattern after it is known that they are 'using' you. There is a helping hand out of true need, and there is someone taking advantage of a helping hand because they know they can. The latter is a self-defeating construct. It can never be sustained as it ends up feeding off itself.

Do not let people make you feel bad for not giving help! Giving help when it is truly needed is one of the most beautiful, incredible, awe-inspiring gifts we can feel. Don't let others take that feeling away from you, or taint that gift with selfishness.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Nice ~ and how do you get rid of guilt? Is there a quick way to eliminate this emotion? Cuz that one sucks~tounge
 Quoting: Beso

If i may answer... Guilt too if an ego based trait that the ego manifests when it thinks it is losing control of your life. It is a common trick to try and regain control. The first step to overcoming is to realize this so you can then recognize it for what it is and then work on it so it can't affect you. The ultimate way to fix all ego tricks and prevent them from running your life is to quit being ego centric and move to a heart centric life. This means to live life from the heart instead of the mind/ego. The heart is the natural way to live a full and rewarding life without the usual pitfalls we find ourselves in. It is a hard transition to master but will pay off big time once mastered. You will find yourself happy, content and secure without all the drama. Never give up or the ego will win.hf
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I am too nice and never say no to people. Most of these people seem really nice and I want to help them, but it always gets out of hand. I always end up becoming their slave bitch. it makes money, but I dont care for money. I do not need money. It makes me depressed and I am in so deep in some cases that these people rely on me.

I need to take control of my life. but I don't want to make people feel bad.

any advice? it seems similar to what you're saying. I am making others the victim, and feel i need to help them.

fuck my life.
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Yes, I have advice. Make yourself number 1. You will be able to become more when you make yourself number one. It is not about making people feel bad. It is about not letting people take advantage of you. Imagine what you can do, what anyone could do, if people stopped letting people take advantage of things! It is not healthy to either party to continue the pattern after it is known that they are 'using' you. There is a helping hand out of true need, and there is someone taking advantage of a helping hand because they know they can. The latter is a self-defeating construct. It can never be sustained as it ends up feeding off itself.

Do not let people make you feel bad for not giving help! Giving help when it is truly needed is one of the most beautiful, incredible, awe-inspiring gifts we can feel. Don't let others take that feeling away from you, or taint that gift with selfishness.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Nice ~ and how do you get rid of guilt? Is there a quick way to eliminate this emotion? Cuz that one sucks~tounge
 Quoting: Beso

If i may answer... Guilt too if an ego based trait that the ego manifests when it thinks it is losing control of your life. It is a common trick to try and regain control. The first step to overcoming is to realize this so you can then recognize it for what it is and then work on it so it can't affect you. The ultimate way to fix all ego tricks and prevent them from running your life is to quit being ego centric and move to a heart centric life. This means to live life from the heart instead of the mind/ego. The heart is the natural way to live a full and rewarding life without the usual pitfalls we find ourselves in. It is a hard transition to master but will pay off big time once mastered. You will find yourself happy, content and secure without all the drama. Never give up or the ego will win.hf
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Has the condition of man really changed since the beginning of time, are we not still just surfs in the field laboring for the wealthy. Perhaps the field has changed and become an office but we are still only surfs. Few of us actually own our business or homes or land, they are most owned by the banks.
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I am too nice and never say no to people. Most of these people seem really nice and I want to help them, but it always gets out of hand. I always end up becoming their slave bitch. it makes money, but I dont care for money. I do not need money. It makes me depressed and I am in so deep in some cases that these people rely on me.

I need to take control of my life. but I don't want to make people feel bad.

any advice? it seems similar to what you're saying. I am making others the victim, and feel i need to help them.

fuck my life.
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Nobody stays in a situation they are not getting anything out of, with you it could be the feeling of worth it gives you having people depend on you. Take a close look at your relationships and ask yourself what you are getting out of it.
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Well written.

This is exactly the process of Nazification of a populace, too. Induce a victim mentality within a people, organize the "victims", then unleash them against "those responsible".

OWS is small example of this mechanism at work. Merely the cartoon prior to the full-length feature that's scheduled, btw.
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good point and observation
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Well written.

This is exactly the process of Nazification of a populace, too. Induce a victim mentality within a people, organize the "victims", then unleash them against "those responsible".

OWS is small example of this mechanism at work. Merely the cartoon prior to the full-length feature that's scheduled, btw.
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good point and observation
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juice, the ultimate victims
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