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Tooth Enamel / Natural Toothpaste Help

 
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Tooth Enamel / Natural Toothpaste Help
So I finally got the cash up to fix my teeth and its great but my enamel is shot to hell. I asked my dentist if I could do anything and he said it can't be repaired. He sold me some Gingimed stuff to help make my teeth "feel" better and prevent my sensitivity ($7 a bottle online and he charged me $25 ~_~ ) I don't much like the idea of hiding the problem myself.

I was curious if anyone out there has any good tips or advice? I changed a few things in my life and I also am on a vitamin regiment.


Bonemeal - 2 TSP per day (1 morning/night) 80% calcium
2 MultiVitamin (No K/K2 in it) 20% calcium (swanson vitamin no iron)
1 100mcg K2 vitamin (suppose to help calcium get to the proper places)


My next step is Comfrey Leaves in a tea, brew it and swish for 20 minutes one time a day. I was told it helps absorption of minerals in the teeth and help improve health of gums and cells.

The only issue I have now is making my own tooth powder. Anyone have any advice for either homemade or store bought? I want to stay away from Fluoride and Glycerin.


I suppose my last question is are they right or anything I should or shouldn't be doing? I refuse to think our bodies can't repair something that it grew. I am not expecting brand new teeth but I find it hard to swallow that my teeth wont strengthen the enamel that is left if given the proper setup.


Thank you and God bless.
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D3 is supposed to be useful for tooth health in general.
CoQ10 has been reported to repair receding gums.

Animals don't brush their teeth, yet they seem to have few problems with them.
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D3 is supposed to be useful for tooth health in general.
CoQ10 has been reported to repair receding gums.

Animals don't brush their teeth, yet they seem to have few problems with them.
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Because toothpaste in general erodes tooth enamel.
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D3 is supposed to be useful for tooth health in general.
CoQ10 has been reported to repair receding gums.

Animals don't brush their teeth, yet they seem to have few problems with them.
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Because toothpaste in general erodes tooth enamel.
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Yep, I know. Just making the point in a different way hf
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D3 is supposed to be useful for tooth health in general.
CoQ10 has been reported to repair receding gums.

Animals don't brush their teeth, yet they seem to have few problems with them.
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They also do not drink or eat acidic foods.
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[link to advancedental.com.au]

Hope this info helps it is avaiable without flouride,hf
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blackcat I used to have very sensitive teeth, but my dentist recommended Sensodyne toothpaste. And I must say it 90% works.
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D3 is supposed to be useful for tooth health in general.
CoQ10 has been reported to repair receding gums.

Animals don't brush their teeth, yet they seem to have few problems with them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1663367


They also do not drink or eat acidic foods.
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How about monkeys/Apes? I may be wrong, but I'm not aware that they suffer with the same problems we do - at least to the same extent.
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whatever u guys do, stay away from dental clinics. a friend of mine had some overpriced shoddy work done by Aspen Dental. almost all of it had to be done over within 12 months by a qualified dentist.
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D3 is supposed to be useful for tooth health in general.
CoQ10 has been reported to repair receding gums.

Animals don't brush their teeth, yet they seem to have few problems with them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1663367


They also do not drink or eat acidic foods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17442072


bsflag

If you knew anything about food acidity it would be obvious that they eat plenty of heavily acidic foods.
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No comfrey does not help. In fact, it is banned for internal use due to liver damage.

Tooth enamel? I'm not sure what you mean.
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No comfrey does not help. In fact, it is banned for internal use due to liver damage.
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Most of what I found on that is because people actually drink/eat it, my plan was to use it as a mouth wash (no swallowing).

:blackcat: I used to have very sensitive teeth, but my dentist recommended Sensodyne toothpaste. And I must say it 90% works.
 Quoting: Judethz


That is what I use now but it doesn't help much, reason the doc gave me that GingiMed stuff, I apply after I brush and leave it on all night. I brush in the morning after breakfast and at night before I go to bed.
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Cut out the sugar (especially HFCS), and fluoride. Fluoride will hide the symptoms, but make the problem worse. Fluoride is also really bad for your brain. It makes you easier to handle, which is why Hitler used it to control the jewish people in the concentration camps. A high protein diet with no HFCS and very little sugar will make a big difference.

By the way, the FDA just ruled the HFCS is not "corn sugar" because HFCS is a liquid and sugar is a solid. Stupid reason, but at least they aren't going to let the chemists confuse people with their bullshit.
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Calcium bentonite clay and pure baking soda (that's what I use). I mix equal parts clay and baking soda and brush as usual (it's also a great natural stain remover). However, I use purified water--not tap water. The minerals in the clay rebuild your teeth's enamel over time. If you drink a lot of acidic juices, use a straw to protect your enamel.
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No comfrey does not help. In fact, it is banned for internal use due to liver damage.
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Most of what I found on that is because people actually drink/eat it, my plan was to use it as a mouth wash (no swallowing).
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That is still internal use since it goes directly into the bloodstream.

Comfrey = poison.
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So I finally got the cash up to fix my teeth and its great but my enamel is shot to hell. I asked my dentist if I could do anything and he said it can't be repaired. He sold me some Gingimed stuff to help make my teeth "feel" better and prevent my sensitivity ($7 a bottle online and he charged me $25 ~_~ ) I don't much like the idea of hiding the problem myself.

I was curious if anyone out there has any good tips or advice? I changed a few things in my life and I also am on a vitamin regiment.


Bonemeal - 2 TSP per day (1 morning/night) 80% calcium
2 MultiVitamin (No K/K2 in it) 20% calcium (swanson vitamin no iron)
1 100mcg K2 vitamin (suppose to help calcium get to the proper places)


My next step is Comfrey Leaves in a tea, brew it and swish for 20 minutes one time a day. I was told it helps absorption of minerals in the teeth and help improve health of gums and cells.

The only issue I have now is making my own tooth powder. Anyone have any advice for either homemade or store bought? I want to stay away from Fluoride and Glycerin.


I suppose my last question is are they right or anything I should or shouldn't be doing? I refuse to think our bodies can't repair something that it grew. I am not expecting brand new teeth but I find it hard to swallow that my teeth wont strengthen the enamel that is left if given the proper setup.


Thank you and God bless.
 Quoting: Therian


The Sensodyne another poster recommended is good because it will fill and desensitize all those little holes you can't see exposed above your gumline.
I think that is very practical advice.

Please don't take so much calcium, it is very hard on the kidneys and probably no more than 1000 mg. through your multi, or calcium lactate or citrate WITH magnesium (very important to add that together and to take it at your evening meal and your others at breakfast).
Coral or bone meal calcium will either just pass through and some lump somewhere it doesn't belong and not particularly absorbable. You've heard of calcification of this or that in the body and it's never a good thing.

Natural Dentist makes two flouride-alcohol free mouthwashes that you can augment by throwing in some CoQl0 and shaking it up.

First get on the Sensodyne and the rest can heal your gums.

Really best of everything to you,I know well how intense tooth problems are!
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Magnesium supplements have helped mine. Yes, teeth can repair themselves if given the right nutrition.
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Rinsing your mouth out with water after eating and drinking can help. Also, don't brush hard. In fact if your trying to rebuild enamel, stop brushing entirely and try oil pulling or something similar. It's hard to build new enamel if you keep tearing it off with a toothbrush.

I'm not a dentist, so take my advice at your own risk.
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Op,
Has your dentist recommended bonding, crowning or capping your teeth to preserve what is left of your tooth enamel, as I do not believe there are any other viable methods of restoring tooth enamel?
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Op,
Has your dentist recommended bonding, crowning or capping your teeth to preserve what is left of your tooth enamel, as I do not believe there are any other viable methods of restoring tooth enamel?
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


There are. Teeth can actually repair themselves....
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Peroxide, Baking soda, or tooth soap.

"Tom's" is a great natural toothpaste, but it contains glycerin. So if you are trying to have you teeth repair, use no products with glycerin. Glycerin coats the teeth and does not allow nutrients to be pulled in to your teeth.

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Peroxide, Baking soda, or tooth soap.

"Tom's" is a great natural toothpaste, but it contains glycerin. So if you are trying to have you teeth repair, use no products with glycerin. Glycerin coats the teeth and does not allow nutrients to be pulled in to your teeth.
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hf I use a baking soda rinse to brush with grinning
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Oh and OP. Your teeth can repair. You just can not use any damaging products on them. Never trust a dentist when they can give you "medicine" or "treatment" instead.
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Op,
Has your dentist recommended bonding, crowning or capping your teeth to preserve what is left of your tooth enamel, as I do not believe there are any other viable methods of restoring tooth enamel?
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


There are. Teeth can actually repair themselves....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


Please provide a link
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Buy some Xylitol (sugar substitute made from birch trees) and grind it up in a mortar w/pestle. Add any herbs you want, but know that baking soda will affect the alkalinity of your mouth. In addition to being a better tasting low-glycemic sugar substitute than stevia, splenda & others, Xylitol has been proven to help teeth rebuild enamel and repair cavities!

Many people add food grade diatomaceous earth as a scrubbing agent (best tooth whitener, named as "silica" in most brands) to their xylitol, but you should check on that if your enamel layer is worn away.

Search for homemade tooth powder recipes containing xylitol.
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Op,
Has your dentist recommended bonding, crowning or capping your teeth to preserve what is left of your tooth enamel, as I do not believe there are any other viable methods of restoring tooth enamel?
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


There are. Teeth can actually repair themselves....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


Please provide a link
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Scroll down:

[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

Basically it's about keeping the ph of the mouth in check. If that is maintained, the teeth can repair themselves provided the decay hasn't reached critical level, such as the pic at the link.

I've had two carries arrest development as a result. The calcium bentonite clay and baking soda have also brought my mouth's ph level back to normal.
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First I'm going to give you this guy's website.
[link to www.yourreturn.org]
And then the link to the book he wrote.
[link to www.curetoothdecay.com]

Also, regular toothpaste is abrasive. This is what I use. It's the best product I have found. I tried the tooth soaps, but every one of them made the inside of my mouth raw. This stuff is the best.
[link to www.oramd.com]

Also, this natural healer I know used to have meth addicts come to her and their teeth were in very bad shape. She would have them use a product from Pure Herbs called T.G.& P.-W and it repaired the enamel on their teeth.
[link to www.pureherbs.com]
The products are in alphabetical order so just go down the list until you find it. The only thing is, you either have to buy it from a distributor or become one yourself. My sister-in-law used to be a distributor and I don't believe it was too expensive to become one.
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Look up concentrace trace mineral drops. Also some youtube videos on healing teeth. I would swish with yhe drops in warm water. You csn buy them at whole foods.
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I'd STOP the bone meal right away.

[link to www.activistpost.com]

Saturday, May 26, 2012
Stoned To Death: Calcium Supplements Proven To Kill

Sayer Ji, Contributor
Activist Post

New research published this week in the journal Heart has confirmed the findings of two controversial studies on calcium supplementation and heart attack risk published in the British Medical Journal last year, and which found a 24-27% increased risk of heart attack for those who took 500 mg of elemental calcium a day.

...calcium of the wrong kind in the wrong place can result in serious adverse health effects

Turned To Stone: When Calcium Goes To The Wrong Place

The reality is that the habit of consuming inorganic, elemental calcium simply does not make sense. After all, have you ever experienced visceral disgust after accidentally consuming eggshell? If you have, you know your body is "hard-wired" to reject low-quality calcium sources (stones and bones as it were), in favor of getting calcium from food.

.............................

[link to www.greenmedinfo.com]
Here are a few tips that should help you go a long way in preventing or reversing bone loss:

1) Eat high-quality protein and vitamin C rich fruits and vegetables! All bone begins as collagen, a substance whose intricate triple helix structure is formed through the Vitamin C driven hydroxlation of the essential amino acids L-lysine and L-proline. Focusing on selecting a diet closer to our hunter and gathered predecessors (not too distant from where we are now, in biological time) appears to be a key factor in preserving both bone density and bone strength.

And remember: Vitamin C is not the same thing as ascorbic acid. Szent-Gyorgyi, who received the Nobel Prize for its discovery in 1937, himself concluded that we need a whole food source of this vitamin, e.g. paprika or adrenal extract, and not the synthetic crystals we now carelessly identify with this life-giving food factor in food in order to prevent scurvy.

2) Get sunlight! Vitamin D supplements are to sunlight, what ascorbic acid crystals are to the Vitamin C activity found in whole, raw food. 3) Vitamin K works with vitamin D, preventing hypercalcemia and ectopic calcification, as well as strengthening the bone, without altering bone mineral density. It is is found in wonderfully nutrient-dense foods like kale, and as a by-product of the metabolic activity of friendly bacteria in our gut or in cultured foods.

3) Eliminate Wheat & Gluten from your diet. No grain is more harmful to human health, with wheat having over 120 documented adverse health effects culled directly from the National Library of Medicine.

4) Incorporate bone-building/strengthening substances into your diet. For a list of over 200 carefully reviewed natural substances with value, use the GreenMedInfo.com Osteoporosis resource page.

*While soy protein and flours, consumed excessively, will contribute to intestinal issues, including malabsorption of nutrients, in moderate quantities -- and treated as a medicine, not a food -- soy has profound therapeutic properties. The byproduct of soy fermentation will generate a phytoestrogen known as genistein, for instance, which is probably one of the most powerful, evidence-based bone-strength and density preserving substances in nature.

Also - Have you tried using Pronamel? I have severe sensitive teeth from the worn away enamel caused by bulimia as a teen - if only I knew.
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:blackcat: I used to have very sensitive teeth, but my dentist recommended Sensodyne toothpaste. And I must say it 90% works.
 Quoting: Judethz


Quit using fluoride toothpaste.

I had sensitive teeth too and used the sensodyne crap, but then I quit using fluoride and the sensitivity went away.

OP - make your own toothpaste with coconut oil and baking soda.

No chemicals and you may be surprised with the results - I was.
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That curetoothdecay site is easily debunked with the vegan diet. They go thru great pains to claim we all need to 'get back to a primitive diet' that includes fish heads and some obscure first batch yellow butter - supposedly to obtain vit k2 from the grass fed cattle.

Just have vegetables. Plenty of the k2. Eliminate the cow from the food chain.

The meats & dairy / cheeses are acidic and destroy bone & teeth. So as much vegetarian as possible is best for less cavities.

Of course watch the sugars too.

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