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**Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996

 
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Libs forget that W actually got congressional (democrat) approval to attack Iraq. Such short memory spans.

Did Obama ask congress if we could intervene in Libya?
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Yeah, it was all well and good when Clinton bombed the ever loving shit out of Iraq back in 1998 using almost the EXACT same argument that Bush used a couple years later to invade. The Dems are utterly shameless and pathetic.
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ALL/MOST politicians are in on the global take over

Thread: Vatican Calls for 'Central World Bank' to Be Set Up

how many of the so called Conservative POLITICIANS have actually said on the record that they think Obummer is a socialist?

not many?
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

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Obama Espoused Radical Views in College

"Barack and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went to a restaurant together," Drew says. "We had a nice meal, and then we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics."
For the next several hours, they discussed Marxism.

"He was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth," says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.

"The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others," Drew says. "That this was the secret of their wealth, that they weren't paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing."

Drew concluded that Obama thought of himself as "part of an intelligent, radical vanguard that was leading the way towards this revolution and towards this new society."

[link to www.newsmax.com]

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ogrrr

Fraudbama was recruited for his position.
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he's come a long way, baby. as party pooper rudely informed, biggest corporatist since gwb. wall st. rules at wh.
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Yeah, BO has flip-flopped, and lied about every one of his policies and positions. Most people don't know who the real Obama is. BO was against the patriot act... then he was for it, along with the NDAA. BO was for closing Gitmo... and he kept it open. BO was against gay marriage... now he is for it. BO wasn't a socialist... he is a socialist.

<a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">Barack Obama</a> reads whatever lies he is fed from the teleprompter.

BO goes on and on with the lies.

oridin
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the very same prompter that mitt would use. if someone who were willing to defend the constitution got near the oval office he would surely be eliminated, unless the powers could count reliably on congress to stop him/her, which they could now. all but a handful of repubs voted for american citizen disappearance act while the opposite was true for dems, which at least says something for them. those who voted for (r or d) should be removed for violating their oath, including prez for signing. now, if you're calling obama flip-flopper, what does that make mitt 'weather vane' romney? you think he'll change anything??!! divide and conquer.
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they all part of the socialist party. nothing new just alot harder to see than a football game.
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^^^ This.

nmtsoc
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


This quote that Reagan gave in a speech has never been verified. The closest anyone can come to this quote is Norma M Thomas saying to change the word Socialism with Nationalism. I'm calling Reagan out as a liar unless someone can show me the origin of Reagan's quote.
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Let's see....you basically call Reagan a liar....but give the Obama administration a pass??


norespect


For cripes sake....there was no YouTube in 1927. getwell
Biased much?




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they all part of the socialist party. nothing new just alot harder to see than a football game.
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^^^ This.

nmtsoc
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


This quote that Reagan gave in a speech has never been verified. The closest anyone can come to this quote is Norma M Thomas saying to change the word Socialism with Nationalism. I'm calling Reagan out as a liar unless someone can show me the origin of Reagan's quote.
 Quoting: Major_Payne


Let's see....you basically call Reagan a liar....but give the Obama administration a pass??


norespect


For cripes sake....there was no YouTube in 1927. getwell
Biased much?



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Here.....this clearly shows which side Norman Thomas was on. commie

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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
Just viewed Hannity a few moments ago interviewing Stanley Kurtz who discovered documented evidence of Obama's membership in the New Party of Chicago in 1996. This was denied during the 2008 campaign, and in fact Kurtz was ridiculed by a reporter whose last name is Smith.

No coverage on the networks yet. Fox only. Of course the new media has this story on many sites: Breitbart, PJ media, Drudge.
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
Just viewed Hannity a few moments ago interviewing Stanley Kurtz who discovered documented evidence of Obama's membership in the New Party of Chicago in 1996. This was denied during the 2008 campaign, and in fact Kurtz was ridiculed by a reporter whose last name is Smith.

No coverage on the networks yet. Fox only. Of course the new media has this story on many sites: Breitbart, PJ media, Drudge.
 Quoting: Blonde Mom


At least more people watch fox than anything else.
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And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

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Obama Espoused Radical Views in College

"Barack and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went to a restaurant together," Drew says. "We had a nice meal, and then we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics."
For the next several hours, they discussed Marxism.

"He was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth," says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.

"The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others," Drew says. "That this was the secret of their wealth, that they weren't paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing."

Drew concluded that Obama thought of himself as "part of an intelligent, radical vanguard that was leading the way towards this revolution and towards this new society."

[link to www.newsmax.com]

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ogrrr

Fraudbama was recruited for his position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660040



he's come a long way, baby. as party pooper rudely informed, biggest corporatist since gwb. wall st. rules at wh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15822494


Yeah, BO has flip-flopped, and lied about every one of his policies and positions. Most people don't know who the real Obama is. BO was against the patriot act... then he was for it, along with the NDAA. BO was for closing Gitmo... and he kept it open. BO was against gay marriage... now he is for it. BO wasn't a socialist... he is a socialist.

Barack Obama reads whatever lies he is fed from the teleprompter.

BO goes on and on with the lies.

oridin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660040


the very same prompter that mitt would use. if someone who were willing to defend the constitution got near the oval office he would surely be eliminated, unless the powers could count reliably on congress to stop him/her, which they could now. all but a handful of repubs voted for american citizen disappearance act while the opposite was true for dems, which at least says something for them. those who voted for (r or d) should be removed for violating their oath, including prez for signing. now, if you're calling obama flip-flopper, what does that make mitt 'weather vane' romney? you think he'll change anything??!! divide and conquer.
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Dude, are you serious? Stop lying. The democrats continued and strengthened the patriot act. Then, Barack Obama signed the NDAA unconstitutionally with executive order. On top of that, Barack Obama helped destabilize the middle east even further with the Arab spring. Dims are much worse. Don't try to play the left Vs right games with me. I am living in the present. The present president is Barack Obama, so try to stay on topic.
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FYI, Obama is a right-winger by European standards. No go.

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European standards are irrelevant.

The US was specifically constructed to avoid the failures, shortcomings, and absolute stupidity that have plagued Europe for centuries.

Our standard is the Constitution. What you guys do over there is entirely irrelevant.
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Erm... not really.

You know the by line "Coming soon to a theater near you!" ? Well... it really isn't irrelevant what's going on anywhere in the world these days.
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
Just viewed Hannity a few moments ago interviewing Stanley Kurtz who discovered documented evidence of Obama's membership in the New Party of Chicago in 1996. This was denied during the 2008 campaign, and in fact Kurtz was ridiculed by a reporter whose last name is Smith.

No coverage on the networks yet. Fox only. Of course the new media has this story on many sites: Breitbart, PJ media, Drudge.
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$1000 bucks says you will NEVER see it on CNN or MSNBC....EVER.


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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
Just viewed Hannity a few moments ago interviewing Stanley Kurtz who discovered documented evidence of Obama's membership in the New Party of Chicago in 1996. This was denied during the 2008 campaign, and in fact Kurtz was ridiculed by a reporter whose last name is Smith.

No coverage on the networks yet. Fox only. Of course the new media has this story on many sites: Breitbart, PJ media, Drudge.
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At least more people watch fox than anything else.
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Lol at the negative karma for this comment. Since you didn't sign it, why don't you man up and tell me what news is. It doesn't matter what you think of fox. I didn't even say I watched it. The fact is, more Americans watch it than anything else.
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not that it really matters but which libTURD drew the 'conclusion' that I thought Romney wasn't a puppet?

as I said earlier..ALL/Most politicians are not to be trusted

and to whoever gave me that Karma skull_fing

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"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist
[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]

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Wow. I go home for dinner and some quality time on the couch sans internet and all the brain dead useful idiot freaks come out to play.

Look Obamabots, Socialists, and ignorant prols, it all boils down to property rights and freedom. Either you have that or you don't. If you own property and have the right to use that as you see fit then the government does not control you. You are free.

If the property you think you own is overly regulated by the government to the point that you have little to no control over it, then for all practical purposes, you don't really own it and are not free.

It doesn't matter whether you are a millionaire who owns a business and has employees or a home owner who just wants to collect the rain off your own roof, if your government forces you to do something you don't want to do or does not allow you to do what you want to do with your own stuff you are not free.

America use to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. That hasn't been the case for a long time because we are no longer free to do as we wish with our own property and precious few bother to stand up for themselves to defend their own freedoms anymore.

"Fairness" is not taking something from someone just because you are jealous of what they have. That is theft. "Fairness" is not redistributing other people's hard earned money to lazy idiots who didn't earn it, won't appreciate it, and will waste it as fast as possible and keep on complaining that life isn't "fair".

"Fairness" is being able to invest your own money in your own company and hire and fire your own employees. "Fairness" is being able to keep your profits and not have a government confiscate them to hand them out to people you don't even know for reasons you may even find morally reprehensible.

You jackholes who think that "a little communism" and feel good "fairness" socialism is good because you think it helps everybody are braindead prols who are oblivious to the fact that you bite the hand that feeds you and then complain when its gone.

Margaret Thatcher had a great way of describing Socialism. "The problem with Socialism is that eventually, you run out of other people's money".

You sick braindead useless idiots! When you demand what others have by force of government edict, you rob them of their property and their freedom. When you depend on others for what you have, you rob yourself of your own freedom. Keep doing that long enough and the well runs dry and both you and the use-to-be rich will all be poor and subject to the government that took all your stuff.

Dear God this seems hopeless sometimes. Too much socialist propaganda and programming for far too long has produced a nation ignorant of their history and doomed to lose the freedom and wealth that so many fought for and died to secure.

gaah

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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
there are so many people in America that love socialcomminizm
these are the ones voting for obama
they Like his associations with the underground and socialist organizations.
fortuonately they are in the minority and bama will be fires come voting time.
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the people who call everything socialism are a minority.

sarah palin may earn millions by shouting in your ear that socialist control the world and want to destroy america, but money cannot hide the truth that big busines rules america, and most see that for what it is, abd they demand more socialism, peoples/governments control, over private enterprise.
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there are so many people in America that love socialcomminizm
these are the ones voting for obama
they Like his associations with the underground and socialist organizations.
fortuonately they are in the minority and bama will be fires come voting time.
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the people who call everything socialism are a minority.

sarah palin may earn millions by shouting in your ear that socialist control the world and want to destroy america, but money cannot hide the truth that big busines rules america, and most see that for what it is, abd they demand more socialism, peoples/governments control, over private enterprise.
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dumbass

Stop trying to spread your lies.

Barack Obama was a member of the Socialist/Communist New party.

Most of us here already know what B.O. is.

Wake up you brainwashed Obama idiots.

worship ogrrr
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
Obama associated with the Weathermen Underground (TERRORIST ORGANIZATION):

[link to www.muckety.com]

Proof
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THIS ^

ohyeah
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
"that is SO weird cuz I coulda sworn it was a right wing W presidency that created the patriot act, the single most constitution destroying piece of legislation in US history."

dubya

Thats a fact!
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Hey Cunt
Do a search - Father of the Patriot Act
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"that is SO weird cuz I coulda sworn it was a right wing W presidency that created the patriot act, the single most constitution destroying piece of legislation in US history."

dubya

Thats a fact!
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Hey Cunt
Do a search - Father of the Patriot Act
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There's not much to research: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

"The USA PATRIOT Act... is an Act of the U.S. Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001..."

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"that is SO weird cuz I coulda sworn it was a right wing W presidency that created the patriot act, the single most constitution destroying piece of legislation in US history."

dubya

Thats a fact!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1323409

Hey Cunt
Do a search - Father of the Patriot Act
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17662783

There's not much to research: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

"The USA PATRIOT Act... is an Act of the U.S. Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001..."

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[link to www.dailypaul.com]
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
Not only did he join, he paid dues to the new party.


[link to www.breitbart.com]
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ohappy

What happen to all the shills and sheep telling everyone Barack Obama is not a Socialist?

lmao
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Not only did he join, he paid dues to the new party.


[link to www.breitbart.com]
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Those were not the only "dues" he paid. The whole reason he joined Trinity United "church" *cough, cough* was to gain an advantage with local pastors in his community organizing with ACORN. Obama didn't start going to church because he wanted to know about God, he did it because it was politically advantageous at the time.

[link to www.boston.com]

" Obama didn't land in Wright's church by happenstance, David Maraniss writes in "Barack Obama: The Story." As a young community organizer in Chicago, Obama needed the help of pastors from local churches, but wasn't himself a church member. Obama, "an inveterate doubter," by Maraniss' account, felt mounting pressure to join a church, and a growing desire to explore his relationship with God.


A pastor working with Obama in the Developing Communities Project advised him to find a church outside the project's boundaries to avoid alienating any of the other pastors, and sent him to meet a preacher outside the district. That pastor, in turn, referred Obama to Wright, whose Trinity United Church of Christ stood just across the street from the boundary. "

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SOCIALISTS speak is always easy to spot...

- TAKING - Socialism is entirely based on the politics of envy. Their plans are always associated some euphamism for theft. Listen carefully and you'll find words like "TAKE", "OCCUPY", "APPROPRIATE", "CONFISCATE" litter their speech and in slogans like "TAKE the toys from the boys" and "TAKE action". Ideas of personal property mean nothing to them.
- HONOUR AMONG SOCIALISTS - There is none. Socialists are out for themselves ultimately which is why they spend so much time peddling this "brotherhood" BS> If they really were your friends, they wouldn;t need to keep telling you. The BIG DIFFERENCE between Robin Hood and a socialist is that Robin Hood gave what he stole to the poor. Despite all their BS, socialists ALWAYS pocket the dough they take if they can. The list of African Socialist leaders who have ended up on corruption charges is endless. Remember, champagne isn't cheap and socialists always need to pay for that next bottle.
- SOCIETY - As no-one in their right mind would support mass trashing of civil rights, socialists invent a completely spurious fictional creature called "SOCIETY". By putting the "needs" of this fictional entity first, socialists are able to steamroller civil rights and justify nearly anything from gassing jewish people to U-Turns on Guantanamo Bay (say, thanks for that one Obama!). Indeed, one only has to look at the brutality of "socialist leaders" in Africa for endless examples.
- SHALLOW - Nothing worthwhile has ever been easy and with nothing worthwhile to offer, socialists are always peddle shallow to attract stupid voters. A gob full of booze,, a fist full of pussy and arm full of dope for every slacker are always being promoted in one way or another. You'll always find a socialist behind ideas like "No fail" courses in High School and extra mandatory hospitals, as always, paid by someone else they envy. Consider, just how do you think Greece go where it is without fat pensions for Government workers, free to retire at 55?
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Not only did he join, he paid dues to the new party.


[link to www.breitbart.com]
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Those were not the only "dues" he paid. The whole reason he joined Trinity United "church" *cough, cough* was to gain an advantage with local pastors in his community organizing with ACORN. Obama didn't start going to church because he wanted to know about God, he did it because it was politically advantageous at the time.

[link to www.boston.com]

" Obama didn't land in Wright's church by happenstance, David Maraniss writes in "Barack Obama: The Story." As a young community organizer in Chicago, Obama needed the help of pastors from local churches, but wasn't himself a church member. Obama, "an inveterate doubter," by Maraniss' account, felt mounting pressure to join a church, and a growing desire to explore his relationship with God.


A pastor working with Obama in the Developing Communities Project advised him to find a church outside the project's boundaries to avoid alienating any of the other pastors, and sent him to meet a preacher outside the district. That pastor, in turn, referred Obama to Wright, whose Trinity United Church of Christ stood just across the street from the boundary. "
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Twenty years ago, this would have been damning to his political career. He certainly would not be president.
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ohappy

What happen to all the shills and sheep telling everyone Barack Obama is not a Socialist?

lmao
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they will say it's bush's fault barry is a marxist

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