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**Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996

 
Burt Gummer

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who gives a fuck
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^ Exact mentality of a brain-dead sheep.
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^^^ Yep. 100% agree.
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
New Party Principles:
The New Party believes that the social, economic, and political progress of the United States requires a democratic revolution in America-the return of power to the people. Democracy in America does not work today. The people do not rule. And they must, if we and our children are to lead lives of dignity, decency, and enjoyment.

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You guys have a loose definition of Socialism.
 Quoting: Major_Payne


Yeah, and Communism was sold as being "for the people" too. The whole reason for the hammer and sickle symbolism was to appeal to the useful idiots who thought they would be the ones in power. The problem is, unless you are free to do what you want with your own property/business/money you are not free and whatever name you want to assign to that form of government, it is a form of tyranny no matter how benevolent it may claim to be. In Socialism, the government allows you to own your own property/business/money, but it tells you what you can and can not do with it. There are not rights given by God in that system because there are not rights at all, only allowances from government.

As power corrupts, that seemingly benevolent government will eventually dictate that what you want to do with what use to be your property/business/money is no longer allowable or that you must use it in ways you do not want. Finally, that socialized tyranny turns to full on communism when that formerly benevolent government simply takes what you have away and either gives it to someone else more compliant or destroys it outright to use as a fear tactic to control the rest of the population. Karl Marx himself in his Communist Manifesto said that Socialism was a transitional phase to Communism. There are just some roads you donít start walking down because the path has no turns and your destination is destruction.

Learn history or doom yourself to repeat it.
 Quoting: Resister


Except that in most cases, socialism doesn't evolve into communism. Is Germany communist, or Sweden? No, they know that socialism and capitalism work best together in social democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


Really? That's why europe is doing so well right now?
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
New Party Principles:
The New Party believes that the social, economic, and political progress of the United States requires a democratic revolution in America-the return of power to the people. Democracy in America does not work today. The people do not rule. And they must, if we and our children are to lead lives of dignity, decency, and enjoyment.

[link to www.thirdworldtraveler.com]

You guys have a loose definition of Socialism.
 Quoting: Major_Payne


Yeah, and Communism was sold as being "for the people" too. The whole reason for the hammer and sickle symbolism was to appeal to the useful idiots who thought they would be the ones in power. The problem is, unless you are free to do what you want with your own property/business/money you are not free and whatever name you want to assign to that form of government, it is a form of tyranny no matter how benevolent it may claim to be. In Socialism, the government allows you to own your own property/business/money, but it tells you what you can and can not do with it. There are not rights given by God in that system because there are not rights at all, only allowances from government.

As power corrupts, that seemingly benevolent government will eventually dictate that what you want to do with what use to be your property/business/money is no longer allowable or that you must use it in ways you do not want. Finally, that socialized tyranny turns to full on communism when that formerly benevolent government simply takes what you have away and either gives it to someone else more compliant or destroys it outright to use as a fear tactic to control the rest of the population. Karl Marx himself in his Communist Manifesto said that Socialism was a transitional phase to Communism. There are just some roads you donít start walking down because the path has no turns and your destination is destruction.

Learn history or doom yourself to repeat it.
 Quoting: Resister


Except that in most cases, socialism doesn't evolve into communism. Is Germany communist, or Sweden? No, they know that socialism and capitalism work best together in social democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


You can take your EURO SOFT-SOCIALISM "Social Democracy", and shove it up your pooper with the hardcore Commie freaks and loons.

The USA is not and WILL NOT BE a Socialist nation.

gtfor

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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
There's a better way to resolve this argument. Instead of using words to describe the man in question let's just look at some of the crap he has pulled and judge him on that basis.

Killing innocent Mexicans and Americans in Operation Fast and Furious. Expanding conflicts in the Middle East. Re-naming fighting units in Iraq and Afghanistan so it looks like the trigger pullers are being withdrawn. Insisting on Language in NDAA that allows for US Citizens to be roused in the middle of the night, wisked away by secret police, never to be seen again. Re-Education camps for those who oppose his world views. Forcing citizens to buy a product from private companies or face jail or stiff fines. On and On and On.

We can call him a Communist, Socialist or the Easter Bunny but it really doesn't matter. The man is a danger to Freedom and a tyrant. And if ANY of his NDAA bullshit is actually enacted he'll be known as a complete monster.

I don't care if you're Liberal or Conservative. HOW THE HELL COULD ANYONE SUPPORT THIS KIND OF CRAP?
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
New Party Principles:
The New Party believes that the social, economic, and political progress of the United States requires a democratic revolution in America-the return of power to the people. Democracy in America does not work today. The people do not rule. And they must, if we and our children are to lead lives of dignity, decency, and enjoyment.

[link to www.thirdworldtraveler.com]

You guys have a loose definition of Socialism.
 Quoting: Major_Payne


Yeah, and Communism was sold as being "for the people" too. The whole reason for the hammer and sickle symbolism was to appeal to the useful idiots who thought they would be the ones in power. The problem is, unless you are free to do what you want with your own property/business/money you are not free and whatever name you want to assign to that form of government, it is a form of tyranny no matter how benevolent it may claim to be. In Socialism, the government allows you to own your own property/business/money, but it tells you what you can and can not do with it. There are not rights given by God in that system because there are not rights at all, only allowances from government.

As power corrupts, that seemingly benevolent government will eventually dictate that what you want to do with what use to be your property/business/money is no longer allowable or that you must use it in ways you do not want. Finally, that socialized tyranny turns to full on communism when that formerly benevolent government simply takes what you have away and either gives it to someone else more compliant or destroys it outright to use as a fear tactic to control the rest of the population. Karl Marx himself in his Communist Manifesto said that Socialism was a transitional phase to Communism. There are just some roads you donít start walking down because the path has no turns and your destination is destruction.

Learn history or doom yourself to repeat it.
 Quoting: Resister


Except that in most cases, socialism doesn't evolve into communism. Is Germany communist, or Sweden? No, they know that socialism and capitalism work best together in social democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


You can take your EURO SOFT-SOCIALISM "Social Democracy", and shove it up your pooper with the hardcore Commie freaks and loons.

The USA is not and WILL NOT BE a Socialist nation.

:gtfor:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


this is pretty funny considering America has been a socialist country for a long time... think about it next time you use a public school, beaches, library, medicaide,jails, post office fire department, hospital, or an ambulance ect.

Derp.

you idiot.
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So.... whats your point OP?

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Deep down, even millionaire Bill Maher
hates fucking Socialists!


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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
New Party Principles:
The New Party believes that the social, economic, and political progress of the United States requires a democratic revolution in America-the return of power to the people. Democracy in America does not work today. The people do not rule. And they must, if we and our children are to lead lives of dignity, decency, and enjoyment.

[link to www.thirdworldtraveler.com]

You guys have a loose definition of Socialism.
 Quoting: Major_Payne


Yeah, and Communism was sold as being "for the people" too. The whole reason for the hammer and sickle symbolism was to appeal to the useful idiots who thought they would be the ones in power. The problem is, unless you are free to do what you want with your own property/business/money you are not free and whatever name you want to assign to that form of government, it is a form of tyranny no matter how benevolent it may claim to be. In Socialism, the government allows you to own your own property/business/money, but it tells you what you can and can not do with it. There are not rights given by God in that system because there are not rights at all, only allowances from government.

As power corrupts, that seemingly benevolent government will eventually dictate that what you want to do with what use to be your property/business/money is no longer allowable or that you must use it in ways you do not want. Finally, that socialized tyranny turns to full on communism when that formerly benevolent government simply takes what you have away and either gives it to someone else more compliant or destroys it outright to use as a fear tactic to control the rest of the population. Karl Marx himself in his Communist Manifesto said that Socialism was a transitional phase to Communism. There are just some roads you donít start walking down because the path has no turns and your destination is destruction.

Learn history or doom yourself to repeat it.
 Quoting: Resister


Except that in most cases, socialism doesn't evolve into communism. Is Germany communist, or Sweden? No, they know that socialism and capitalism work best together in social democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


Really? That's why europe is doing so well right now?
 Quoting: ***Evan***


Several northern European nations have a higher quality of life than we do. There economic problems are due to the same banking cartel that controls most of the world, not because they believe in taking care of their own.
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
Interesting how "Breitbart" is letting this information out a little bit at a time..

I expect much more between now and the election to come out.

I for one believe Obama to be a Marxist. Not that it makes a difference anymore..

Communist, Socialist, Marxist, whats the difference..they are all anti-American.
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Yeah, and Communism was sold as being "for the people" too. The whole reason for the hammer and sickle symbolism was to appeal to the useful idiots who thought they would be the ones in power. The problem is, unless you are free to do what you want with your own property/business/money you are not free and whatever name you want to assign to that form of government, it is a form of tyranny no matter how benevolent it may claim to be. In Socialism, the government allows you to own your own property/business/money, but it tells you what you can and can not do with it. There are not rights given by God in that system because there are not rights at all, only allowances from government.

As power corrupts, that seemingly benevolent government will eventually dictate that what you want to do with what use to be your property/business/money is no longer allowable or that you must use it in ways you do not want. Finally, that socialized tyranny turns to full on communism when that formerly benevolent government simply takes what you have away and either gives it to someone else more compliant or destroys it outright to use as a fear tactic to control the rest of the population. Karl Marx himself in his Communist Manifesto said that Socialism was a transitional phase to Communism. There are just some roads you donít start walking down because the path has no turns and your destination is destruction.

Learn history or doom yourself to repeat it.
 Quoting: Resister


Except that in most cases, socialism doesn't evolve into communism. Is Germany communist, or Sweden? No, they know that socialism and capitalism work best together in social democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


Really? That's why europe is doing so well right now?
 Quoting: ***Evan***


Several northern European nations have a higher quality of life than we do. There economic problems are due to the same banking cartel that controls most of the world, not because they believe in taking care of their own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


So Socialism produces a higher quality of life?
Listen to yourself! wtf

ser_wtf
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Several northern European nations have a higher quality of life than we do. There economic problems are due to the same
banking cartel that controls most of the world, not because they believe in taking care of their own.

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The purpose of Government is not to "take care of" people, fucktard.

OWS-more-govt

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Yeah, and Communism was sold as being "for the people" too. The whole reason for the hammer and sickle symbolism was to appeal to the useful idiots who thought they would be the ones in power. The problem is, unless you are free to do what you want with your own property/business/money you are not free and whatever name you want to assign to that form of government, it is a form of tyranny no matter how benevolent it may claim to be. In Socialism, the government allows you to own your own property/business/money, but it tells you what you can and can not do with it. There are not rights given by God in that system because there are not rights at all, only allowances from government.

As power corrupts, that seemingly benevolent government will eventually dictate that what you want to do with what use to be your property/business/money is no longer allowable or that you must use it in ways you do not want. Finally, that socialized tyranny turns to full on communism when that formerly benevolent government simply takes what you have away and either gives it to someone else more compliant or destroys it outright to use as a fear tactic to control the rest of the population. Karl Marx himself in his Communist Manifesto said that Socialism was a transitional phase to Communism. There are just some roads you donít start walking down because the path has no turns and your destination is destruction.

Learn history or doom yourself to repeat it.
 Quoting: Resister


Except that in most cases, socialism doesn't evolve into communism. Is Germany communist, or Sweden? No, they know that socialism and capitalism work best together in social democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


You can take your EURO SOFT-SOCIALISM "Social Democracy", and shove it up your pooper with the hardcore Commie freaks and loons.

The USA is not and WILL NOT BE a Socialist nation.

:gtfor:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


this is pretty funny considering America has been a socialist country for a long time... think about it next time you use a public school, beaches, library, medicaide,jails, post office fire department, hospital, or an ambulance ect.

Derp.

you idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17566392




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New Party Principles:
The New Party believes that the social, economic, and political progress of the United States requires a democratic revolution in America-the return of power to the people. Democracy in America does not work today. The people do not rule. And they must, if we and our children are to lead lives of dignity, decency, and enjoyment.

[link to www.thirdworldtraveler.com]

You guys have a loose definition of Socialism.
 Quoting: Major_Payne


Yeah, and Communism was sold as being "for the people" too. The whole reason for the hammer and sickle symbolism was to appeal to the useful idiots who thought they would be the ones in power. The problem is, unless you are free to do what you want with your own property/business/money you are not free and whatever name you want to assign to that form of government, it is a form of tyranny no matter how benevolent it may claim to be. In Socialism, the government allows you to own your own property/business/money, but it tells you what you can and can not do with it. There are not rights given by God in that system because there are not rights at all, only allowances from government.

As power corrupts, that seemingly benevolent government will eventually dictate that what you want to do with what use to be your property/business/money is no longer allowable or that you must use it in ways you do not want. Finally, that socialized tyranny turns to full on communism when that formerly benevolent government simply takes what you have away and either gives it to someone else more compliant or destroys it outright to use as a fear tactic to control the rest of the population. Karl Marx himself in his Communist Manifesto said that Socialism was a transitional phase to Communism. There are just some roads you donít start walking down because the path has no turns and your destination is destruction.

Learn history or doom yourself to repeat it.
 Quoting: Resister


Except that in most cases, socialism doesn't evolve into communism. Is Germany communist, or Sweden? No, they know that socialism and capitalism work best together in social democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779



Most cases? Iíd say the cases we have seen are plenty bad enough and the difference between the brand names of socialism and communism is little more than the person running the show and whether they have the political will to oppress the people. Europe has been economically strangling itself for decades and is gasping for air with its own hands still wrapped around its own financial neck. The bottom line is that governments do not know better how to spend your money or manage your property and always, always screw it up and make things worse than they were before.

Oh and I'll take a Republic based on law over a social democracy that votes itself money it doesn't have and denies freedom to its own people in the name of safety and security any day.

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Several northern European nations have a higher quality of life than we do. There economic problems are due to the same
banking cartel that controls most of the world, not because they believe in taking care of their own.

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The purpose of Government is not to "take care of" people, fucktard.

:OWS-more-govt:

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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev


It should be. No man is an island and "every man for himself" doesn't work. There are no self-made men, as even Henry Ford or Bill Gates would have gotten nowhere without a functioning society to buy their products.
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Yeah, and Communism was sold as being "for the people" too. The whole reason for the hammer and sickle symbolism was to appeal to the useful idiots who thought they would be the ones in power. The problem is, unless you are free to do what you want with your own property/business/money you are not free and whatever name you want to assign to that form of government, it is a form of tyranny no matter how benevolent it may claim to be. In Socialism, the government allows you to own your own property/business/money, but it tells you what you can and can not do with it. There are not rights given by God in that system because there are not rights at all, only allowances from government.

As power corrupts, that seemingly benevolent government will eventually dictate that what you want to do with what use to be your property/business/money is no longer allowable or that you must use it in ways you do not want. Finally, that socialized tyranny turns to full on communism when that formerly benevolent government simply takes what you have away and either gives it to someone else more compliant or destroys it outright to use as a fear tactic to control the rest of the population. Karl Marx himself in his Communist Manifesto said that Socialism was a transitional phase to Communism. There are just some roads you donít start walking down because the path has no turns and your destination is destruction.

Learn history or doom yourself to repeat it.
 Quoting: Resister


Except that in most cases, socialism doesn't evolve into communism. Is Germany communist, or Sweden? No, they know that socialism and capitalism work best together in social democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


You can take your EURO SOFT-SOCIALISM "Social Democracy", and shove it up your pooper with the hardcore Commie freaks and loons.

The USA is not and WILL NOT BE a Socialist nation.

gtfor
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


this is pretty funny considering America has been a socialist country for a long time... think about it next time you use a public school, beaches, library, medicaide,jails, post office fire department, hospital, or an ambulance ect.

Derp.

you idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17566392


No the same thing you idiot.
Social Policy versus Socialist Policy.

Education hahafail


Why are all you Aussies always so stupid?
Is it in the water?

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lala

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You're right ... this is a big distraction.

Instead, we should be talking about:

- Obama's soaring budget Deficits and Debt
- Obama's failure to even pass a Budget
- Obama's continued high Unemployment
- Obama's high Gas & Food prices
- Obama's ObamaCare that a majority of states are fighting
- Obama's failure on Amnesty
- Obama's failure on Cap & Trade
- Obama's failure on closing Gitmo
- Obama's failure on getting the Olympics in Chicago
- Obama's murder of women & children with his Drones
- Obama's ....

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Except that in most cases, socialism doesn't evolve into communism. Is Germany communist, or Sweden? No, they know that socialism and capitalism work best together in social democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


You can take your EURO SOFT-SOCIALISM "Social Democracy", and shove it up your pooper with the hardcore Commie freaks and loons.

The USA is not and WILL NOT BE a Socialist nation.

:gtfor:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


this is pretty funny considering America has been a socialist country for a long time... think about it next time you use a public school, beaches, library, medicaide,jails, post office fire department, hospital, or an ambulance ect.

Derp.

you idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17566392


No the same thing you idiot.
Education :hahafail:


Why are all you Aussies always so stupid?
Is it in the water?
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P.S...even your military is a socialist program...ie taking your tax dollars to fund it..LOL.

you're a fool, and anything with the word SOCIAL in it will be shotdown by a brainwashed fool..like you
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lala

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You're right ... this is a big distraction.

Instead, we should be talking about:

- Obama's soaring budget Deficits and Debt
- Obama's failure to even pass a Budget
- Obama's continued high Unemployment
- Obama's high Gas & Food prices
- Obama's ObamaCare that a majority of states are fighting
- Obama's failure on Amnesty
- Obama's failure on Cap & Trade
- Obama's failure on closing Gitmo
- Obama's failure on getting the Olympics in Chicago
- Obama's murder of women & children with his Drones
- Obama's ....

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Don't worry about the fuel prices....they are going to come down as the economy goes to hell in a handbasket.
Less energy is used when people have no jobs, therefore no money to buy fuel for their cars, or purchase goods.

depress ohappy
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lala

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You're right ... this is a big distraction.

Instead, we should be talking about:

- Obama's soaring budget Deficits and Debt
- Obama's failure to even pass a Budget
- Obama's continued high Unemployment
- Obama's high Gas & Food prices
- Obama's ObamaCare that a majority of states are fighting
- Obama's failure on Amnesty
- Obama's failure on Cap & Trade
- Obama's failure on closing Gitmo
- Obama's failure on getting the Olympics in Chicago
- Obama's murder of women & children with his Drones
- Obama's ....

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Don't worry about the fuel prices....they are going to come down as the economy goes to hell in a handbasket.
Less energy is used when people have no jobs, therefore no money to buy fuel for their cars, or purchase goods.

:depress: ohappy
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Fuel prices always drop right before a presidential election, especially when the incumbent is favored to win.
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lala

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You're right ... this is a big distraction.

Instead, we should be talking about:

- Obama's soaring budget Deficits and Debt
- Obama's failure to even pass a Budget
- Obama's continued high Unemployment
- Obama's high Gas & Food prices
- Obama's ObamaCare that a majority of states are fighting
- Obama's failure on Amnesty
- Obama's failure on Cap & Trade
- Obama's failure on closing Gitmo
- Obama's failure on getting the Olympics in Chicago
- Obama's murder of women & children with his Drones
- Obama's ....

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Don't worry about the fuel prices....they are going to come down as the economy goes to hell in a handbasket.
Less energy is used when people have no jobs, therefore no money to buy fuel for their cars, or purchase goods.

depress ohappy
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Fuel prices always drop right before a presidential election, especially when the incumbent is favored to win.
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Statistically that could be true....but the economy (or lack thereof)grnrolleyes is driving the fuel prices this time.

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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
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You can take your EURO SOFT-SOCIALISM "Social Democracy", and shove it up your pooper with the hardcore Commie freaks and loons.

The USA is not and WILL NOT BE a Socialist nation.

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this is pretty funny considering America has been a socialist country for a long time... think about it next time you use a public school, beaches, library, medicaide,jails, post office fire department, hospital, or an ambulance ect.

Derp.

you idiot.
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No the same thing you idiot.
Education :hahafail:


Why are all you Aussies always so stupid?
Is it in the water?
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P.S...even your military is a socialist program...ie taking your tax dollars to fund it..LOL.

you're a fool, and anything with the word SOCIAL in it will be shotdown by a brainwashed fool..like you
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and if ya'll are whining about SOCIAL programs, please feel free not to use them.

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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
what a joke. He's the biggest Corporatist since GWB. And they got all you guys running around calling him a communist! Ha!

Distraction is their greatest tool and you guys are doing the hard work for them!
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
who gives a fuck
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^ Exact mentality of a brain-dead sheep.
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clappa
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this is pretty funny considering America has been a socialist country for a long time... think about it next time you use a public school, beaches, library, medicaide,jails, post office fire department, hospital, or an ambulance ect.

Derp.

you idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17566392


No the same thing you idiot.
Education hahafail


Why are all you Aussies always so stupid?
Is it in the water?
 Quoting: Burt Gummer




P.S...even your military is a socialist program...ie taking your tax dollars to fund it..LOL.

you're a fool, and anything with the word SOCIAL in it will be shotdown by a brainwashed fool..like you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17566392


and if ya'll are whining about SOCIAL programs, please feel free not to use them.

1rof1
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Social Policy versus Socialist Policy.

Aussie education failsmile


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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
Really? That's why europe is doing so well right now?
 Quoting: ***Evan***


yeah, they took the capitalist approach to getting out of a recession - austerity.

America took the socialist approach - stimulus.

Look who's still around...
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
New Party Principles:
The New Party believes that the social, economic, and political progress of the United States requires a democratic revolution in America-the return of power to the people. Democracy in America does not work today. The people do not rule. And they must, if we and our children are to lead lives of dignity, decency, and enjoyment.

[link to www.thirdworldtraveler.com]

You guys have a loose definition of Socialism.
 Quoting: Major_Payne


Yeah, and Communism was sold as being "for the people" too. The whole reason for the hammer and sickle symbolism was to appeal to the useful idiots who thought they would be the ones in power. The problem is, unless you are free to do what you want with your own property/business/money you are not free and whatever name you want to assign to that form of government, it is a form of tyranny no matter how benevolent it may claim to be. In Socialism, the government allows you to own your own property/business/money, but it tells you what you can and can not do with it. There are not rights given by God in that system because there are not rights at all, only allowances from government.

As power corrupts, that seemingly benevolent government will eventually dictate that what you want to do with what use to be your property/business/money is no longer allowable or that you must use it in ways you do not want. Finally, that socialized tyranny turns to full on communism when that formerly benevolent government simply takes what you have away and either gives it to someone else more compliant or destroys it outright to use as a fear tactic to control the rest of the population. Karl Marx himself in his Communist Manifesto said that Socialism was a transitional phase to Communism. There are just some roads you donít start walking down because the path has no turns and your destination is destruction.

Learn from history or doom yourself to repeat it.
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All forms of Gov. eventually become corrupt, it's human nature. Everything you listed is also happening here under Capitalism to a degree, except instead of State owned everything is Corporate owned.
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Re: **Breaking** Obama was a member of Socialist New Party in 1996
what a joke. He's the biggest Corporatist since GWB. And they got all you guys running around calling him a communist! Ha!

Distraction is their greatest tool and you guys are doing the hard work for them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11976018


Obama????....pro-Corporatist???


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