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Britains Real Monarch NOT THE QUEEN

 
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Britains Real Monarch NOT THE QUEEN
Britains Real Monarch by Tony Robinson first shown on Channel 4 on 3 January 2004. It has also been broadcast in UK, America and Australia.

This documentary argued that all British monarchs since Henry VII of England did not have a valid claim to the English throne.

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06/07/2012 02:29 PM
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I'm not British, so maybe someone can explain to me - wasn't it a case mainly of who was able to take over the throne? I was just reading a book about the Dudleys and their 'black history' but if they had been able to keep Jane Grey on the throne wouldn't history have had a whole different attitude toward them? It seems like there were many power plays for the throne throughout history and whoever lost was beheaded and considered a traitor, but if they had succeeded they would have been royalty today. Isn't there a question also of whether the Tudors had a legitimate claim?
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Re: Britains Real Monarch NOT THE QUEEN
do away with that stupid monarchy. its the antithesis of freedom and liberty.
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06/07/2012 02:35 PM

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do away with that stupid monarchy. its the antithesis of freedom and liberty.
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I agree. They should elect a president instead.
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06/07/2012 03:01 PM
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Henry the VII was a descendant of Edward the III so he had a legitimate claim. He also married the enxt in line technically if you consider women. His wife was the oldest daughter of Edward IV. Her two brothers were killed by Richard III so he could be king.

Henry the VII killed Richard the III and literally took the crown of the dead guy's head and put it on his own at the battle of Bothwell. After that no one really questioned his right to the thrown.

In the end they were all descended from the oldest son of Edward III however.
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06/07/2012 03:23 PM
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That's what they bred with Diana for.
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06/07/2012 03:32 PM
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Then the argument could be made that William the Bastard was not entitled to the throne, since Harold had the support of the Witan, but that is simply not how these things work out, the strongest wins..
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06/07/2012 10:54 PM
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What I want to know, is why the German Saxburg-gotha family isn't sent packing by good Englishmen. The family was embarrassed to have a german name during the first world war and changed it to Windsor. Queen Elizabeth is the richest person in the world and she isn't even British. I say take her wealth for the poor of England and send he back to Germany where she belongs!

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