I live in Argentina. NOW i Can´t buy FOREIGN CURRENCY or gold freely. Ask me a Fu$$ing question If you wish. I am tired of this $hi$

I lost sympathy when you mentioned you had a BMW.

Is it allowed to smoke pot in Argentina?

F'n A OP, five stars you rule.

Goddamn secret germanic hessians and colonists in our American territories. Hell yeah.

Hey, what's Ferfal got to say? I have enjoyed his "hard livin in Argentina" series. His writings explain how being armed is 100% necessary, and how vehicular ambush and rape become common when ones economy is destroyed. You in touch with him?

no but americans have told me so much about him I may be interested of meeting him

Join the club.
This will happen world wide then we are all F'd.

come to america and cut grass for 15.00 an hr.

Let's back to the important stuff? argentinian women. duuuuuuuuuuyaaaaaaammmmmm dey be foine!

sideways::bananasex::

I heard a lot of "people in the know" were buying land in Patagonia is that true and if so what would be the reasoning. Is there a growing population from Israel moving to Patagonia or is that rumor.

Apparently Argentinians didn't learn from their past experience in 2001???




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last time I visited the whole patagonia is was full of land rovers full of israel people and israel students.

local argentinians told me that israel people get amazed with the amount of beatiful land empty there.

Not OP.
But as an Argentinean I can say hes full of it.

Goverment controls regarding currency exchange (ARS to Dollar to be more specific)were implemented because everyone here started living in their own paranoid world since the 2001 economic crisis we lived here.

People started saving money in u$s, exchanging their salaries for dollars, sending their money overseas to banks in other countries and that hurt the economy and made the dollar price way more unstable than it should´ve been.

Tell me, how can you expect not to implement control over the dollar when even houses in your own country are sold in other countries currencies? And he called us sheeple, what an idiot.

And if that isn´t enough, the MSM over here get about an 80% audience of the country population. And they freely choose to ignore everything bad that happens in the USA, be it their war crimes, economic crysis or the shit your country turned into the last 10 to 15 years. People over here still think you USA is a model coutnry and that everything is allright around here, thats why people want to bet on the dollar, harming the national ecconomy and ´benefitting´ themselves.

Oh, and FYI, you can buy Gold there is no limit to that, OP is lying. And you can buy dollars too, as long as you can prove you earned that money working. You can buy around $4500 dollars a month. But for the high class it seems that isnt enough and they feel ´betrayed´.

And I´ll just leave you with this to think;

What do you think the USA goverment would´ve done if all their citizens started buying Euros when it first got out and steamrolled over the dollar? If every citizen started exchanging their salaris for euros and sending the money over to banks in Europe to ´feel safe´?
Do you really think it wouldnt hve harmed your ecconomy?
Do you really think your goverment wouldnt have done something to stop it?

Guns, booze, cigs and weed.

WARNING SHILL ALERT
"PEOPLE STARTED SAVING MONEY" > epic lie. ARGENTINIAN WERE HOARDING DOLLARS WAY BEFORE THE KIRCHNER REGIME. LIE NUMBER 1


"People started saving money in u$s, exchanging their salaries for dollars, sending their money overseas to banks in other countries and that hurt the economy and made the dollar price way more unstable than it should´ve been."

LIAR! they started destroying the peso. that accelerated things. they lied with the inflation statistics.
be careful with this shill. he will never be able to deny the big lie our inflation rate is. LIE #2


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Tell me, how can you expect not to implement control over the dollar when even houses in your own country are sold in other countries currencies? And he called us sheeple, what an idiot."

LIE! you destroyed the peso and now you are removing freedom? LEAVE NAZI suporter now! :nazi: LIE # 3 and #4

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Oh, and FYI, you can buy Gold there is no limit to that, OP is lying. And you can buy dollars too, as long as you can prove you earned that money working. You can buy around $4500 dollars a month. But for the high class it seems that isnt enough and they feel ´betrayed´."

the final LIE of this guy full of it. YOU CAN´T BUY IMPORTED GOLD or foreign currency. he is full of it!
lie #5


be careful of paid shills !

I think people are way more apathetic in America than the are in Europe.

your ass will get burn. And if you repeat the argentinian example, you will quickly forget the lessons and get burn your ass over and over again.

Flight to dollars has traditionally been the safe way of protecting your money.....and it will still be for the next 5 - 10 years.
...especially if the EURO zone collapses.....the flight of cash from the EURO to the DOLLAR will be HUGE and will keep the Dollar strong.

The economics of the Dollar beyond the 5 year mark depend a LOT on fiscal sanity and policy.....and that means OBAMA MUST GO if the USA and Dollar are to survive.



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We got scumbags in charge, you have scumbags in charge, seems everywhere has scumbags in charge. Dont worry, once Europe swiftly followed by the rest of the world economically faceplants, we will be probably living under similar arrangements.

Oh I know it's coming, most Americans seem to think that they and their money and assets are safe here. They will all be in for a rude awakening soon.

Thanks Strongman, but I feel that the collapse will be worldwide, and whoever has the biggest guns and most ammunition will win. Masses of poor people will tear cities apart- then go to the country farms- it will be horrible. There is no safe haven or place to hide from the coming fall of civilization. So very sad. Here come the Dark Ages again. and love

[quote Spiderjones]

Thanks Strongman, but I feel that the collapse will be worldwide, and whoever has the biggest guns and most ammunition will win. Masses of poor people will tear cities apart- then go to the country farms- it will be horrible. There is no safe haven or place to hide from the coming fall of civilization. So very sad. Here come the Dark Ages again. and love



PEace bro

Our commies say Argentina is now heaven on earth etc

I understand. It is not the first time your country's peso has failed. I understand what you are saying, but I also understand why the people would be hesitant to trust your gov. You know to quote Pres. Bush "fool Me once...oh erh you understand.

Spider, I agree there will be no place to hide. I believe 3rd world subsistence countries may fair better than NYC dwellers, though. Most people, although vaguely worried about something seem to be in total denial about the true gravity of what is to come. It could be anything from riots, famine, plague, war, nuclear contamination to EQ, floods, solar flares to the kill shot, but one thing is for sure things are going to happen.

WOW.

'capital controls'.

an ordinary citizen complains about CAPITAL CONTROLS because he cant buy dollars or pesos as he wants.

fucking CAPITAL controls.


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paid 'opinionmaking' by forum posting on internet is waaaay too 2000s.

OH THE HUMANITY !!!

ordinary people cant buy IMPORTED GOLD or foreign currency !!!

i mean, why, while i was just returning home from a stroll, people were just busy beating each other up to buy IMPORTED GOLD and FOREIGN CURRENCY !!! even old ladies had had left their grocery bags aside where i live, and were beating each other up with their handbags to be able to get to the front of the queue to buy IMPORTED GOLD ...

man.

we live in bad times. i mean, being limited to free speech zones and beaten down with batons is one thing, but, NOT BEING ABLE TO BUY IMPORTED GOLD !?!?!?!! OUTRAGEOUS !!!

my grandfather once had told me; "Son, if you ever live into times in which you are not able to buy IMPORTED GOLD, then you should take up arms !!" and he made that his will. it seems, its time to take up arms because i cant buy * gasp * IMPORTED GOLD.

As an American who does a lot of traveling and has spent considerable time in Argentina, speaks Spanish and has friends in the country, I can tell you that Strongman is absolutely correct in his assessment of what is currently taking place in Argentina. Any Argentinian who defends the current political regime and thinks Cristina and her cronies are doing a good job is brain dead. The government is destroying the economy all over again, just by different means than it was destroyed via Menem's policies during the 90's (the peso was pegged 1:1 with the dollar, which ensured the eventual peso crash).

I was just in Argentina about a month ago, and things there don't seem that bad, yet, but Strongman is exactly correct in stating that Argentina is in for a very hard landing. The government is shutting the exits and is preparing to fry the people, who don't have a clue, in most cases, what's coming. I do have some friends in Argentina who understand that Cristina and most of the rest of her government are nothing but criminals, but I also have some otherwise very intelligent friends there who are absolutely brainwashed by her cloying, emotional appeals and related bullshit. It's fucking sad, to be honest with you. The people are going to get fucked again, like usual in Argentina, and they've suffered enough in their very checkered history.

Argentina is one of my favorite countries in the world to spend time in, and by all rights it should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world, as it was in the early part of last century. But the government is proving, yet again, that it has the power to destroy what should be one of the wealthiest, most successful, most vibrant countries in the world. Argentina has all the ingredients for success -- low population relative to the geographical size of the country, astonishingly fertile land, enormous deposits of unexploited natural resources, plenty of fresh water, the list goes on. But the government and its policies are like a cancer that continues to eat away at the country's prosperity. There's a saying in Argentina that the country has the most potential in Latin America, and it always will. Unfortunately true, at least for now.

If you don't think the government is causing and is preparing for the next economic crash, you just aren't paying attention. Many Argentines think that Cristina's recent expropriation (an Argentine friend of mine correctly termed her actions "pure theft") of YPF was a good thing, but they don't have a clue how economics and finance actually work, and that the resulting capital flight will eventually have horrifically negative consequences for the country. I also haven't yet seen anyone on this thread mention her other recent frog-boiling tactic -- making an agreement with the government of Uruguay, under which Uruguayan banks will be forced to disclose the names of any and all Argentinian account holders. For those of you who don't know, the Uruguayan banking system is far more stable than the Argentinian system (which Argentines, correctly, have zero trust in since the fiasco of 2001), and having Uruguayan bank accounts was one of the few ways that Argentines could protect themselves during the crash of 2001. The government just assured that, this time around, they won't be able to use that avenue to protect their savings.

The Argentine government is horrifically corrupt and knows exactly what they're doing. They know they're causing another crash and they're doing everything they can to loot the country before that happens. I hope that any Argentinians reading this post will take Strongman's warning to heart and will do everything they can to protect themselves from the next collapse of the Argentine economy and financial system, which I'm afraid will probably happen with the next 18 months or so.

Timing is always tricky with these things, but I correctly predicted the stock market crash of 2008 in the U.S. and the resulting first-world depression, which is only in its early stages. Though I had high hopes that Argentina would prove to be counter-cyclical and would be a good place to hang out while the U.S. and most of Europe crashed and burned, it appears that Argentina and its people will have to suffer yet again, and probably sooner rather than later. Fucking sucks.

There is not one country in the world that is innocent of what you speak of above. This is happening all over the world. Look at the sad state of affairs in the U.S. and the population is oblivious for the most part. This is going to be a worldwide collapse and the well heeled know it and that is why they are stealing anything that is not nailed down and battening the hatches. So be fore warned folks i have watch events develop for the past 6 years and we are getting very close. No telling what will happen next.