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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/08/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemo has never ever been proven to save anyone. The placebo-contrtolled studies are missing. You might as well give them Perrier water that has no deadly effects and claim success when the cancers recedes all by itself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16642843 United States 06/08/2012 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the coolest, strongest, (ex semi-pro inside linebacker) hardest working men I've ever known chewed 7 cans of Kodiak a day at work (he did heavy construction) and received a diagnosis of 4 months left to live last year. He was 35 at the time. Quoting: Captain Spaulding 17380282 An asian scam artist "doctor" ripped him off for everything he had, including his 401k. He found a treatment in Canada involving something to do with THC that's not approved here by the FDA in the states. The last I heard he was in complete remission. I've moved from the the area and don't keep in touch with him except when I go to visit my friends where I used to live. Has anyone heard of this "non-FDA approved treatment before? I might be in need real soon myself. Anyone? [link to organic-health.us] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/08/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whenever it comes to something serious .. question, if it was your child, or this was you .. what would you do .. some will lie .. some will be straight up and be conflicted with what they would advise you.. Quoting: redrosie Understand cancer first. It's not an illness, it's a natural reaction to toxic waste. Remove the waste and the body has no use for cancer anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17563229 Germany 06/08/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doubt your version of the facts. Most cancers reced spontaneously, one of them is prostate cancer. Sure doctors told him he'd last 3 months so he now feels "saved". my father got lung cancer from smoking more than 2 packets of cigarettes per day, he received chemotherapy for nearly a year (and other medicine). his cancer ís gone (Thanks god) only most of his hairs didnt come back ( he is in his 50`s ). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1276958 United States 06/08/2012 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All those guys happily saying "chemo saved..." please provida the basis of your reasoning. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297793 Chemo has never ever been proven to save anyone. The placebo-contrtolled studies are missing. You might as well give them Perrier water that has no deadly effects and claim success when the cancers recedes all by itself. I've read that the chemo damages the mitochondria of the normal cells so badly that they never recover, and you die before 5 years simply from complications of the chemo, even if the cancer appears to be gone. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17563229 Germany 06/08/2012 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doubt your version of the facts. Most cancers reced spontaneously, one of them is prostate cancer. Sure doctors told him he'd last 3 months so he now feels "saved". my father got lung cancer from smoking more than 2 packets of cigarettes per day, he received chemotherapy for nearly a year (and other medicine). his cancer ís gone (Thanks god) only most of his hairs didnt come back ( he is in his 50`s ). by the way this was 3 years ago, since then there are no signs anymore of cancer, he is again healthy ( Thanks god ) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/08/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my father got lung cancer from smoking more than 2 packets of cigarettes per day, he received chemotherapy for nearly a year (and other medicine). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17563229 his cancer ís gone (Thanks god) only most of his hairs didnt come back ( he is in his 50`s ). He's alive in spite if chemotherapy then. Quitting smoking is the real reason for his recovery. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17563229 Germany 06/08/2012 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my father got lung cancer from smoking more than 2 packets of cigarettes per day, he received chemotherapy for nearly a year (and other medicine). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17563229 his cancer ís gone (Thanks god) only most of his hairs didnt come back ( he is in his 50`s ). He's alive in spite if chemotherapy then. Quitting smoking is the real reason for his recovery. he didnt stopped smoking at all ( we tried anything to make him stop ) even during his chemotherapie he was smoking secretly..... he smokes now again 2 packets per day ( like before his cancer ) i belive its the Great Medical system of Germany that saved my fathers life, i am more than thankfull that the great state of Germany and its lovely doctors saved my father ( we are immigrants ) With the right doctors chemotherapie will work wonders. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 06/08/2012 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't choose to nuke myself either...my grandmother died from chemotherapy...that's what killed her, not cancer. Quoting: BRIEF Sorry dude. It also almost makes it worse when you know thing's could have been done better, but there's nothing you really could have done at the time. My grandfolks all died young, but I'll always remember my them. I've known people who received the wrong type of chemo and didn't make it. Then I've known of people who got the wrong kind, then Doc's tried to fix it with a different one and that's what "did them in". Literally described as "burning them from the inside out". And I've known a few (over the years, and most of these were semi-close acquaintances) who got the "lighter" version, when what they really needed was to bomb the cancer heavily with a strong dose immediately. (that was the talk, not my opinion.) Now I'm facing a situation myself. It came up fast and myy last few days have been hell. Honest, for the first time in my life I'm really honestly freaking scared. Read up on Dr. Hulda Clark...hang in there, and attitude means a ton in times like this...take time to watch comedy, whatever kind you like...everyday I agree. Attitude is everything. People must find a way to be positive and happy and laugh A LOT. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/08/2012 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he didnt stopped smoking at all ( we tried anything to make him stop ) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17563229 even during his chemotherapie he was smoking secretly..... Then it's just another case of "early (mis)diagnosis". They banked on the fact that he smoked to push a diagnostic on him. It's routine in the cancer business. |
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ehecatl User ID: 17389347 Mexico 06/08/2012 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what are your options? Do nothing and just die, or are their other treatments Thc being one of them. Quoting: closing eyes Well, for all my family members who died of cancer, I think they would have thought otherwise before allowing doctors drain them of all their money just months before their eventual deaths. As far as THC, those already familiar with it will just easily say, "Sure, why not?". To those who don't use it, they have fear. (And to the wealthy medical establishment, they will say "no way!" (can't make money on that!)) from DEA Judge Young's ruling on Medical Marijuana concerning Lethal Dose - 8. At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response. [link to www.druglibrary.org] Here is a YT that basically addresses the pharmacology of how THC specifically triggers cancer cell death. There are a number of mechanisms that have been identified this in the interaction of THC that explains how this occurs. Marijuana Extract Fights Brain Cancer [link to www.scientificamerican.com] Manuel Guzman of Complutense University in Spain and his colleagues tested extracts of marijuana known as delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinols in 30 mice that had brain tumors. The researchers analyzed the animals' DNA and identified 267 genes associated with blood vessel growth, or angiogenesis. The cannabinoids inhibited the expression of several genes critical to angiogenesis known as the VEGF (vascular endothelial growth factor) pathway. Blockade of the VEGF pathway constitutes one of the most promising antitumoral approaches currently available, Guzman says. The cannabinoids work by increasing the potency of a fat molecule known as ceramide, the team posits. Increased ceramide activity, in turn, inhibits cells that would normally produce VEGF and encourage blood vessel growth. Last Edited by ehecatl on 06/08/2012 01:29 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1057865 Canada 06/08/2012 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doctors used to think that if they drained a sick person’s blood it would purge the “evil” infection or disease right out of the body, but all that did was make the ill person much weaker, unable to fight off whatever was invading their body, and the patient was then highly likely to lose the battle for life, and in less time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16619376 Research using polls and questionnaires continue to show that 3 of every 4 doctors and scientists would refuse chemotherapy for themselves due to its devastating effects on the entire body and the immune system, and because of its extremely low success rate. On top of that, only 2 to 4% of all cancers even respond to chemotherapy or prove to be “life extending,” yet it is prescribed across the board for just about every kind of cancer. [link to worldtruth.tv] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17497469 United States 06/08/2012 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the hypocrites, they advise their patients to take chemo so it is more money for the medical industry..knowing it is worse than useless for the patient. sickening. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15186755 they have no choice they have to follow the rules and procedure set forth by the insurance companies And the AMA, and big pharma |
CEMO= Bad transporter User ID: 11476378 United States 06/08/2012 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are documented cases to substantiate the use of CEMO to eradicate and or treat cancer growth. I'm glad there are options and they have saved many lives. But- I would probably seek a homeopathic solution, based on the also documented cases of the potential side effects of CEMO therapy. That's my opinion and I pray to God Almighty that I never have to make that decision. (shout out for my Uncle Johnny, nearing his time) Please take his soul swiftly God...through Jesus I pray. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17606801 United States 06/08/2012 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Brother-in-law is an oncologist and he has told me on more than one occasion he would never submit to chemo or radiation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 108458 The sad thing is if he wants to keep practicing in the US he needs to 'strongly' recommend one or the other, sometimes both, to his patients. affirmative being blacklisted does happen when one even attempts to venture off the rote path not allowed and believe me they even have most professionals HOGTIED those that buck up, get smashed down truth is dangerous to criminals....it seems competition takes away the genocidal policies they want all UNDER |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17382032 United Kingdom 06/08/2012 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MARIJUANA CURES CANCER Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16509902 WHEN YOU STOP TRUSTING THE SECRET SOCIETIES YOU'LL FIND SALVATION One of the coolest, strongest, (ex semi-pro inside linebacker) hardest working men I've ever known chewed 7 cans of Kodiak a day at work (he did heavy construction) and received a diagnosis of 4 months left to live last year. He was 35 at the time. Quoting: Captain Spaulding 17380282 An asian scam artist "doctor" ripped him off for everything he had, including his 401k. He found a treatment in Canada involving something to do with THC that's not approved here by the FDA in the states. The last I heard he was in complete remission. I've moved from the the area and don't keep in touch with him except when I go to visit my friends where I used to live. Has anyone heard of this "non-FDA approved treatment before? I might be in need real soon myself. Anyone? The treatment I think you are talking about is Hemp Oil. Run from the Cure is a movie about Rick Simpson. [link to www.youtube.com] I hope it helps you. I know you are correct, because I have followed the science behind this for decades. For most people though they just can't wrap their head around the idea, and besides they like to say "If that were true why do people smoking pot get cancer and why does smoking pot not cure them?" The thing is, is that the therapeutic dose of THC required to kill internal cancers are far greater quantities than can be ingested through smoking. To receive these quantities it is best if the person swallows it direct like Simpson suggests, or one can also receive these quantities through THC medicine administration foods, like brownies. To those who have a slightly open mind and who are brave enough to start to peak at the decades of scientific work and study behind this issue and why it is based on solid science, here is a good source to start with. There are thousands of both government and private studies supporting Cannabis as medicine, and hundreds of studies backing its use with cancer, and in particular as a superb "chemotherapy" agent, because THC does kill cancer cells, but it does not kill any healthy cells. [link to forum.grasscity.com] You are so close to the secret of THC. It's not a medicine, it's a nutrient that has been in our diet for thousands of years. Your brain and body is full of cannabinoid receptors - not by accident, by symbiosis. We have evolved along side the plant to get calories and nutrients, while the fibres were used for making clothes etc. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17606526 United States 06/08/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try an alternative method that involves supporting natural health. You'll live longer, and theres even a chance that the cancer will not cause you complication depending on circumstance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17489696 United States 06/08/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People must be so brainwashed to believe this toxic chemical could "cure" anything It is toxic to the body When nursing staff have to administer this chemical; they have to wear protective gown, gloves and a mask... I know I gave this shit at one time ... If any of it spills out...you have to treat is as a hasemat toxic chemical incident; and if you get any on your skin; it can be damaging to your skin cells Why would anyone want to put such a thing inside their bodies??? I wised up and realized Wow ; this stuff is dangerous to me then why am I allowing others to get it into their bodies??? This stuff does not cure ; how could it it is a toxic chemical |
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ehecatl User ID: 17389347 Mexico 06/08/2012 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are so close to the secret of THC. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17382032 It's not a medicine, it's a nutrient that has been in our diet for thousands of years. Your brain and body is full of cannabinoid receptors - not by accident, by symbiosis. We have evolved along side the plant to get calories and nutrients, while the fibres were used for making clothes etc. That's nice, may or may not be true, depending on definitions, and although I know where you are coming from, if the purpose is to simply allow people to look at the hard science backing up how THC kills cancer cells, and it's lack of toxicity, then it is not necessary to even address that. It makes you sound so much more fringe in the eyes of people who are too fearful of the truth to even study scientific studies on the subject. Statements like this may hurt the cause more than help, unless you just like preaching to the choir. However I would bet that the medical pharmaceutical establishment have more than a few shills in their ranks who would post on issues like this. |
Merci User ID: 1499647 United States 06/08/2012 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't choose to nuke myself either...my grandmother died from chemotherapy...that's what killed her, not cancer. Quoting: BRIEF Sorry dude. It also almost makes it worse when you know thing's could have been done better, but there's nothing you really could have done at the time. My grandfolks all died young, but I'll always remember my them. I've known people who received the wrong type of chemo and didn't make it. Then I've known of people who got the wrong kind, then Doc's tried to fix it with a different one and that's what "did them in". Literally described as "burning them from the inside out". And I've known a few (over the years, and most of these were semi-close acquaintances) who got the "lighter" version, when what they really needed was to bomb the cancer heavily with a strong dose immediately. (that was the talk, not my opinion.) Now I'm facing a situation myself. It came up fast and myy last few days have been hell. Honest, for the first time in my life I'm really honestly freaking scared. Read up on Dr. Hulda Clark...hang in there, and attitude means a ton in times like this...take time to watch comedy, whatever kind you like...everyday I agree. Attitude is everything. People must find a way to be positive and happy and laugh A LOT. I agree as well. Positive emotions are more powerful and last longer than negative. Our body rejuvenates and heals itself. Skin regrows every 7 days, Organs such as the liver regrow. Cells rejuvenate yearly. We have the capabilities within ourselves to heal. Sin which is negative emotions and behavior causes illness and death. |