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The Earth does not revolve around the Sun - You need to know this "Spiral move"

 
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The Earth really is stationary at the center of the universe www.fixedearth.com

The simplest explanation of the zero-velocity result of the Michelson-Morley experiment (which failed to detect the Earth's purported 67,000 mph speed) is that the universe does not move www.geocentricity.com
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My understanding is the earth along with the sun and our solar system is spiraling towards the center of the galaxy...and around dec21,2012 we will be in alignment with the galactic center... ?
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GLP: Where lies and misrepresentations go to be pinned.
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nope, we revolves around the center of a galaxy and move in a spiral, we never end up in same place again, ever, we are on a big journey.

we evolve


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We Evolve? What have we Evolved from what? And what will we Evolve to?
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thats the good question...

maybe, this is what the maya`s and old cultures did know more about, our place in the universe and how we maybe evolve in DNA and so on...not sure, but i can only hope, when i see the state of the humanity, and see from history to now, many thing has change the last few years, like an spiritually awaking, and also the opposite, sadly, but maybe a time when earth split up in 2, if u can understand.... 2 dimensions......


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But why does it have to be so complicated? Why can't it just be as the Heavenly father says it is? He created the Earth, Created MAN and WOMAN, and that's that. I find it strange there are people out there who think we came from a Monkey and will Evolve into a Bird... Like, are you kidding me? These are the same people who turn around and bash the bible.
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if it is like that, it fine by me...it do not have to be complicated......sometimes, thing make more since when u feel it inside you, that part can be hard for many others, but if you are a believer in something, u must know the feeling, when u feel something is right, even when you know, many others dont see it like that...

but here is it fact, we move in a spiral and i cant say where the journey lead too, i can only hope, for me, i would love "paradise" where there is peace and love and harmony...for all, some do believe in a book for that, others do see it in the stars, others have a feeling.....

for me, thats our journey to find our own way, our own road in hamony


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The Earth really is stationary at the center of the universe www.fixedearth.com

The simplest explanation of the zero-velocity result of the Michelson-Morley experiment (which failed to detect the Earth's purported 67,000 mph speed) is that the universe does not move www.geocentricity.com
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interesting, thx
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The Solar religion is the only one which allows the realization of the Kingdom of God

"At the heart of our inner life, at the centre of our concerns, we must place the universal principle which is the source of all religions – the sun – and immserse ourselves in the example it gives us each day. To bring light, warmth and life to all creatures without exception – this is the solar religion. Even before human beings appeared on earth, the sun was there, and it has been saying to them ever since: ‘Expand your consciousness, free yourselves from your narrow conceptions and do as I do: illuminate, warm, vivify and embrace the entire world with your intelligence and your love.’

The only true religion is the solar religion, which teaches us to become luminous, warm and life-giving. It teaches us to work to acquire the wisdom which clarifies and solves problems; the disinterested love which embellishes, encourages and consoles; and the subtle, spiritual life which renders us active, dynamic and bold so that we may realize the Kingdom of God and his Justice on earth. No one can fight this religion. Anyone who tries to go against it only diminishes and obscures his own inner life. "

"A religion is only true in so far as it resembles the solar religion. And the religion that Jesus brought was a solar religion, whatever Christians may say; they have not yet understood his teaching correctly. Yes, when Jesus says, for example, ‘Be perfect… as your heavenly Father is perfect’, how can we have any idea what divine perfection is like? Only by taking the sun as a model.

In order to become truly perfect, we should not even take saints or initiates as models, only the sun. Of course, initiates will give you the example of great virtues, but they know they are nothing compared to the sun. That is why they express themselves with humility; they defer to the sun as their example, for they know that whatever they may do, their light, warmth and life cannot compare to the light, warmth and life of the sun."

"In our Brotherhood, we live the great Christian festivals of Christmas and Easter as simply as we live the other days: we pray, meditate and sing. And even if we give special thought to the birth, death or resurrection of Christ, we do nothing exceptional. If this leaves some people dissatisfied, they are free to go and celebrate these festivals in their churches or their temples. Everyone must decide what form to give to his religious feelings, and he must allow others to do the same. The fact that they have different beliefs and rituals must never be a reason for people to attack each other. It is unwise to destroy the lives of others in the name of such and such a religious founder. Rather than provoking endless disorder and strife, people must embrace one another, help one another and fraternize with one another. In doing so they will demonstrate that they are followers of the one true religion, the universal religion of light and love, whose model is the sun. "

"We must recognize the fact that for human beings, God is inconceivable. But out of his goodness and generosity he wants to reveal himself to us, and he has left signs everywhere in creation that allow us to find him. The trouble is that people do not look for these signs, and even when they are right in front of their eyes, they fail to interpret them. The result is that the God in whom the Christians believe remains an abstraction for them. And because human beings are unable to live with abstractions, they have greatly increased the number of statues, medallions, crosses, and holy pictures… all sorts of material, concrete representations of the Divinity, to an extent that is even childish and ridiculous. It is imperative that human beings learn to find the signs the Creator has left in creation, the most striking of which is the sun. "

"We are on earth for a reason, or the Lords of Destiny would have sent us elsewhere. There are plenty of places in the universe for a pleasant vacation. The best place to go, in fact, is the sun. You will say: ‘The sun? But we will be burned!’ Yes, of course, if you go there in your physical body, but who said that you must do that? The physical body is adapted to our earthly existence and, in order to go to other planets or to the sun, we have other bodies. There are different forms of life in the universe to which different aspects of matter correspond and, although we cannot go to the sun in our physical body, we can at least go there with our soul and our spirit."

"Life is the force of all forces, and only the sun can give human beings an idea of it. We experience two manifestations of this life: light and warmth. How many times have I explained to you that if Christians would open themselves to the sun, they would better understand what they call the mystery of the Holy Trinity, the mystery of a single God in three persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The Father represents the life from which proceed the Son and the Holy Ghost, light and warmth, or in other words, wisdom and love. But what can we do if Christians refuse to understand that the sun alone can provide them with an example of and a means of understanding the foundation of their religion? And what can I do if, when I talk to them about meditating on the sunrise, they imagine I intend to lead them back to ancient cults in which the sun was worshipped as a divinity?"

"What is more visible and more radiant than the sun? But if you remain barricaded behind closed shutters, you will not even know that it exists. If you want to see it, you must at least open a window. The sun is not going to impose itself on you by penetrating your walls and shutters. In the same way, you must at least open a small skylight within you in order to discover the presence of God. Yes, it is you who must do something, not God. God does what He has to do; He is there in His radiance, and this should be enough for you. It is up to you to do what is necessary so that you may feel His presence. Those who have evolved to a higher degree of consciousness never cease to have revelations on the meaning and beauty of the world, so how could they help but feel this presence? This is what God is, and we gradually discover Him as we come to know the richness and meaning of life."

"Why do we watch the sunrise? Why do we concentrate on it? In order to learn to mobilise all our thoughts, all our desires, and all our energies, and to direct them toward the realization of the highest ideal. A person who works to unify the many chaotic forces that pull him in every direction and to project them in a single, luminous and salutary direction becomes such a powerful centre that his presence, like the sun, is able to radiate through space. Yes, he who manages to control the tendencies of his lower nature can spread these blessings over the whole of humanity, and he becomes a sun. He lives in such freedom that he expands the field of his consciousness to include the entire human race, to which he sends the abundance of light and love that pour forth from him. "

"In order to understand what true religion is, human beings must draw closer to the light, warmth and life of the sun. That is to say, they must seek the wisdom which enlightens them and resolves all problems, the disinterested love which beautifies, encourages and consoles them, and the subtle, spiritual life which renders them active, dynamic and daring, so that they may realize the Kingdom of God and His Justice on earth. And no one can contest this religion: anyone who tries to destroy it destroys himself, because he restricts himself. When this understanding of a universal religion penetrates every mind, the whole organisation of life will become universal: all separation between human beings will cease to exist, including borders and wars. As they come to know the sun in its sublime expression of light, warmth and life, human beings will draw closer and closer to the Divinity, and they will transform the earth into a garden of Eden where all will live as brothers and sisters. Everyone must accept this universal religion, this brotherhood which the sun teaches us."

"The sun is the most perfect image of God. In spite of this perfection, however, it is only a form, and in seeking God we must go beyond it. We must always look for God beyond forms. When looking at the sun, do your utmost to feel you are in the presence of the best representative of God on earth. This sensation will help raise all the vibrations of your being. All the elements within you will be exalted, and you will be projected into the upper regions of space. Even the notion of time will be abolished, for, like God, you will live in eternity. "

"Catholicism has presented itself as the sole universal religion. But, in fact, the only religion which can truly claim to be universal is one inspired by the sun. Because the sun is universal. ‘And the Lord,’ you will say, ‘ is he not universal?’ Of course the Lord is universal, but for our ordinary human consciousness, he is so imperceptible and inaccessible! On the grounds that we must recognize only one God, many refuse to accept a solar religion, a philosophy which presents the sun as the symbol of the Divinity. But because they are unable to contact God, they remain in the void. Claiming that they praise and glorify only the Lord, they feel and understand nothing. Is this intelligent? Why not realize that it is the sun, above all, that can bring us closer to God by giving us an image of his light, his love and his power? As long as we reject the sun, we remain in the shadows, cold and weak."

"Make every effort to rise very high in yourself and to remain there as long as possible. To rise to the heights and remain there means to be forever noble, just and generous. The heights of which I speak refer to the grandeur and the light within you, and this grandeur and light teach you that you must learn to descend in order to help your human brothers and sisters. While you live and work on earth among your fellow human beings, you must not descend inwardly, which means you must not give reign to inferior tendencies or participate in selfish or dishonest pursuits. In your efforts to rise in yourself, you must never imitate those who are haughty, inaccessible and hard, and who do not want to lower themselves by offering a hand. Instead, take the sun as your example: he descends to our level, he warms and illuminates us, he sends us his messages, his soul and his love. He gives us his life, but he himself remains eternally in the heights."

"There are so many things to discover when watching the sunrise, so many exercises that enable us to immerse ourselves in this life, this light and this warmth! As the day dawns, a great event is being prepared in the sky. Clouds, sombre or bright, appear and disappear, and all the colours of dawn are like so many presences heralding this one dazzling presence: the sun. It is worth your while to feel the significance of the birth of each new day, which over billions of years tirelessly recreates the birth of the world’s first morning. We can unite with all the visible and invisible creatures who attend this extraordinary emergence of the light and, together, we can greet the forces of life."

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i understood pretty much of it, true that the sun isnt in the center of the galaxy its pretty retarted to even think that because in the center is a massive black hole that bends the space making it a spiral shape and its true that the sun moves in this spiral just as how planet revolves around the sun is how the sun revolve around the center.
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My understanding is the earth along with the sun and our solar system is spiraling towards the center of the galaxy...and around dec21,2012 we will be in alignment with the galactic center... ?
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i did just found this the did knew about this, im sure

from another glp`er

Thread: Spirals, Mayans, 2012, Backyard Astronomy, Our Creator: the Meaning of Life


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Yep, the world doesn't revolve around the sun, it's flat, and it's hollow. Am i missing any major details about the nature of this planet?
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I wouldn't piss on religion if it was on fire, even if I was desperate to piss, I'd hold it in and walk on.

Just Sayin'
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Hinduism, Christianity, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormon,
Islam, Buddhism, Sikhism, Judaism, Baha'i ,Zoroastrianism etc etc.

I shit on religion, it has caused so much pain, division & delusion. Every religion claims its 'take' on god is the ONLY way. This is outright WRONG. Yes i believe you can find spirituality through these religions, but you might be surprised to find you dont need the a label. GOD is everywhere and available for all who seek him.

I will NEVER follow organised religion because it has failed. If everyone just let everyone find god in their own way, it would be fine, but because each relgion teaches that its 'WAY' is the only 'WAY' conflict ensues. Theres a turd in the sandbox & all the kiddies are to busy fighting to notice they're getting smeared in shit.

Get out of the sandbox, go climb a tree, pick an apple, draw a picture, talk to a girl, feed a bird, knit a sweater.

God is everywhere... grow up already.
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If you think that the theory of the Earth's rotation around the sun - it is absolutely proven fact, then you are sadly mistaken. In this theory are so many inconsistencies that it has long been located on the same shelf with Darwin's theory of the origin of man from apes.

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Um... I never assumed that the Sun was static in space and, as far as I know, modern astronomers don't believe that either.

However, the "spiral effect" seen in that video was only to show our solar system's movement through space. We orbit the sun on a fairly consistent plane in relation to the Sun, so consistent in fact, that a 2D model is good enough to show the basics of how we orbit.
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I wouldn't piss on religion if it was on fire, even if I was desperate to piss, I'd hold it in and walk on.

Just Sayin'
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Hinduism, Christianity, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormon,
Islam, Buddhism, Sikhism, Judaism, Baha'i ,Zoroastrianism etc etc.

I shit on religion, it has caused so much pain, division & delusion. Every religion claims its 'take' on god is the ONLY way. This is outright WRONG. Yes i believe you can find spirituality through these religions, but you might be surprised to find you dont need the a label. GOD is everywhere and available for all who seek him.

I will NEVER follow organised religion because it has failed. If everyone just let everyone find god in their own way, it would be fine, but because each relgion teaches that its 'WAY' is the only 'WAY' conflict ensues. Theres a turd in the sandbox & all the kiddies are to busy fighting to notice they're getting smeared in shit.

Get out of the sandbox, go climb a tree, pick an apple, draw a picture, talk to a girl, feed a bird, knit a sweater.

God is everywhere... grow up already.
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Motion is relative to the frame of reference (FOR). From the Sun's FOR, we are orbiting it. There's no such thing as absolute motion.
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to all those that think this is BS.. remember the sun is also revolving.. take a ball and spin it.. it will travel in the direction of the spin.. even in a weightless vacuum... therefore all the solar system and galaxies are traveling thru space, sometimes into each other.. Stop being so blind!
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the sun isn't hot either.

comet lovejoy proved this.

Comet Lovejoy reached perihelion on 16 December 2011 at 00:17 UTC, as it passed approximately 140,000 kilometres (87,000 mi) above the Sun's surface. It was not expected to survive the encounter due to extreme conditions in the corona, such as temperatures reaching more than one million kelvins, and the exposure time of nearly an hour. However, the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO), as well as other Sun-monitoring spacecraft, observed the comet emerge from the corona intact. The STEREO and SOHO spacecraft continued to observe the comet as it moved away from the Sun.

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the sun isn't hot either.

comet lovejoy proved this.

Comet Lovejoy reached perihelion on 16 December 2011 at 00:17 UTC, as it passed approximately 140,000 kilometres (87,000 mi) above the Sun's surface. It was not expected to survive the encounter due to extreme conditions in the corona, such as temperatures reaching more than one million kelvins, and the exposure time of nearly an hour. However, the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO), as well as other Sun-monitoring spacecraft, observed the comet emerge from the corona intact. The STEREO and SOHO spacecraft continued to observe the comet as it moved away from the Sun.

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is there any video of that from soho?

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this spiral... is it straight up or a litle to the side?

and this galactic center? does it spin around anything or it goes in a straight line? how does it affect our spiral movement? does this have any sea-sick-ish effect on our heads?
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this spiral... is it straight up or a litle to the side?

and this galactic center? does it spin around anything or it goes in a straight line? how does it affect our spiral movement? does this have any sea-sick-ish effect on our heads?
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so many questions, so little time
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What the crap is this?

Some idiot gets his little mind blown by the grand scheme of the universe, and then spouts a bunch of flaky metaphysical drivel bullshit to explain it to themselves, and THEN even has the gall to say all established math and science is wrong because THAT version just doesn't sound magical enough.

Fuck off, and fuck anyone who pinned this.

It's this pseudo-science garbage that's collectively dumbing down the world. I think the grand ballet that is the universe is astounding, but to imply that the earth and sun are both shooting off on their own corkscrews with no relation to the other is ignorant. There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion, but don't expect me to take it seriously when you don't back it up with logic or fact.

Please leave science to those who have at least an elementary understanding of science.
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Two recent THICK scientific volumes showing that Galileo was wrong and the Geocentrists were correct after all!
[link to www.galileowaswrong.com]
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What the crap is this?

Some idiot gets his little mind blown by the grand scheme of the universe, and then spouts a bunch of flaky metaphysical drivel bullshit to explain it to themselves, and THEN even has the gall to say all established math and science is wrong because THAT version just doesn't sound magical enough.

Fuck off, and fuck anyone who pinned this.

It's this pseudo-science garbage that's collectively dumbing down the world. I think the grand ballet that is the universe is astounding, but to imply that the earth and sun are both shooting off on their own corkscrews with no relation to the other is ignorant. There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion, but don't expect me to take it seriously when you don't back it up with logic or fact.

Please leave science to those who have at least an elementary understanding of science.
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oooh, tetchy

yes, everyone tow the line now, don't dumb things down :))

there's no logic to religion but billions fall for it
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The Earth really is stationary at the center of the universe www.fixedearth.com

The simplest explanation of the zero-velocity result of the Michelson-Morley experiment (which failed to detect the Earth's purported 67,000 mph speed) is that the universe does not move www.geocentricity.com
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:really:
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amazing, thx :-)
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Two recent THICK scientific volumes showing that Galileo was wrong and the Geocentrists were correct after all!
[link to www.galileowaswrong.com]
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Nice website. "Galileo was wrong, the bible was right!"

And nice URL too! galileowaswrong.com?

You are so obviously pushing an agenda of ignorance. The universe doesn't make your kind feel self-important enough, so you literally pretend the whole fucking universe revolves around you.

Galileo was a genius, and if your fucking church had gotten its way, he would have been killed. He's one of the reasons we all still don't have our heads up our asses about how the world works. If people like you had their way, anyone with a curious mind who finds things out for themselves, even if those things go against the established order, would be fucking assassinated.

Even if you've managed to disprove something Galileo said, whoop-de-fucking-do asshole, he still discovered more about the universe than you bibletards ever will, and contributed more to humankind than you ever could.

With a website like that, how could you possibly be anything but an uneducated, biased prick?
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duh no shit.. the sun revolves around the earth..
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nope, we revolves around the center of a galaxy and move in a spiral, we never end up in same place again, ever, we are on a big journey.

we evolve


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bump for a very good video and posthf
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It's 2012, and there are still people who think the sun revolves around the earth. Incredible.

Copernicus knew better, and he died in 1543.

You guys are morons, and he must be spinning in his grave.
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My understanding is the earth along with the sun and our solar system is spiraling towards the center of the galaxy...and around dec21,2012 we will be in alignment with the galactic center... ?
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no we are not. And what galaxy do YOU mean, there are so many. We are IN ENERGIES broadcast from the Center of the Milky Way. We are also in the Photon Belt which is of alcyone, which is a large RING, OH SHIT WHY BOTHER to people who are so lost.
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Re: The Earth does not revolve around the Sun - You need to know this "Spiral move"
I am no more a prick than Einstein, who himself stated:

"The struggle, so violent in the early days of science, between the views of Ptolemy and Copernicus would then be quite meaningless. Either coordinate system could be used with /equal justification/. The two sentences: 'the sun is at rest and the earth moves' or 'the sun moves and the earth is at rest' would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different coordinate systems" (Albert Einstein).

you Canuck cunt!





Even if you've managed to disprove something Galileo said, whoop-de-fucking-do asshole, he still discovered more about the universe than you bibletards ever will, and contributed more to humankind than you ever could.

With a website like that, how could you possibly be anything but an uneducated, biased prick?
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