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CIA, MI6 Orchestrating Massacres in Syria. Rebels Planning to use Chemical Weapons & Blame Assad! Israel calls for World Intervention

 
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interesting how the Syrian military & their Russian allies can not locate the people responsible for the killing of innocent civilians.
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interesting how the Syrian military & their Russian allies can not locate the people responsible for the killing of innocent civilians.
 Quoting: CASCABEL


I would not be a bit surprised if people w/in Assad's gov. were complicit. Isn't that how it works here?
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OK, so what happened in Houla, Syria. Time for the truth, no?

Houla is not a town, but an administrative area made up of three villages, each with about 25,000 residents but which today lie largely abandoned. The Sunni market town of Tal Daw has been under rebel control for many weeks. The Free “Syrian” Army had imposed its rule there. The national Army was securing transport routes by maintaining several posts on roads within the area, but did not venture beyond these roads.

Certain individuals kidnapped children and attempted unsuccessfully to extort ransoms. In the end, these children were killed a few days before the Houla massacre, but their bodies were brought by the Free “Syrian” Army to be laid out amongst the others.

In the evening of 24 May, the Free “Syrian” Army launched a very large-scale operation to reinforce its control over the region, and to make Tal Daw its new base.

In order to do this, 600-800 combatants from various districts gathered in Rastan and Saan and proceeded to launch simultaneous attacks on the military bases. At the same time, a team was fortifying Tal Daw by installing five anti-tank missile batteries, and purging the town of some of its inhabitants.

The first victims in Tel Daw were a dozen people related to Abd al-Muty Mashlab – a legislator of the recently elected Baas party who was appointed Secretary of the National Assembly; following this, the family of a senior official – Mouawyya al-Sayyed – was killed. Subsequent targets were families of Sunni origin who had converted to Shiite Islam.

Other victims included the family of two journalists for Top News and New Orient News, press agencies associated with Voltaire Network. Many people, including children, were raped before being killed.

With only one of the Army’s bases having fallen, the assailants changed strategy. They transformed a military defeat into a communication operation, attacking the al-Watani hospital and setting fire to it. They took corpses from the hospital morgue and transported them along with those of other victims to the mosque, where the bodies were filmed.

The theory of a single massacre perpetrated by pro-government militia does not stand up to the facts. There were battles which took place between loyalists and rebels, as well as several massacres of pro-government civilians at the hands of the rebels.

Then, a scenario was staged by the Free “Syrian” Army where corpses originating from these various earlier situations were mixed together.

Indeed, the existence of the “Shabbihas” is a myth. Whilst there are certainly individuals in favor of the government who are armed and capable of committing acts of revenge, there is no structure or organized group that could be termed as a pro-government militia.

Bottom Line? The Syrian government is not killing Syrian people.
 Quoting: Him Again 16729143


That's the info I heard, but you gave new things I didn't know. Not surprised Voltaire Network people were a target. This confirms more who's behind all this actually. What a sick world we live in.
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that the Syrian regime is carrying out a massacre of civilians, as reports surfaced that some 100 people had been killed there over the weekend.

[link to www.haaretz.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


Benjamin Netanyahu the piece of shit he is knows all about massacres ask the Palestinians
 Quoting: Dave 1577793


False claims. Any proof?

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OK, so what happened in Houla, Syria. Time for the truth, no?

Houla is not a town, but an administrative area made up of three villages, each with about 25,000 residents but which today lie largely abandoned. The Sunni market town of Tal Daw has been under rebel control for many weeks. The Free “Syrian” Army had imposed its rule there. The national Army was securing transport routes by maintaining several posts on roads within the area, but did not venture beyond these roads.

Certain individuals kidnapped children and attempted unsuccessfully to extort ransoms. In the end, these children were killed a few days before the Houla massacre, but their bodies were brought by the Free “Syrian” Army to be laid out amongst the others.

In the evening of 24 May, the Free “Syrian” Army launched a very large-scale operation to reinforce its control over the region, and to make Tal Daw its new base.

In order to do this, 600-800 combatants from various districts gathered in Rastan and Saan and proceeded to launch simultaneous attacks on the military bases. At the same time, a team was fortifying Tal Daw by installing five anti-tank missile batteries, and purging the town of some of its inhabitants.

The first victims in Tel Daw were a dozen people related to Abd al-Muty Mashlab – a legislator of the recently elected Baas party who was appointed Secretary of the National Assembly; following this, the family of a senior official – Mouawyya al-Sayyed – was killed. Subsequent targets were families of Sunni origin who had converted to Shiite Islam.

Other victims included the family of two journalists for Top News and New Orient News, press agencies associated with Voltaire Network. Many people, including children, were raped before being killed.

With only one of the Army’s bases having fallen, the assailants changed strategy. They transformed a military defeat into a communication operation, attacking the al-Watani hospital and setting fire to it. They took corpses from the hospital morgue and transported them along with those of other victims to the mosque, where the bodies were filmed.

The theory of a single massacre perpetrated by pro-government militia does not stand up to the facts. There were battles which took place between loyalists and rebels, as well as several massacres of pro-government civilians at the hands of the rebels.

Then, a scenario was staged by the Free “Syrian” Army where corpses originating from these various earlier situations were mixed together.

Indeed, the existence of the “Shabbihas” is a myth. Whilst there are certainly individuals in favor of the government who are armed and capable of committing acts of revenge, there is no structure or organized group that could be termed as a pro-government militia.

Bottom Line? The Syrian government is not killing Syrian people.
 Quoting: Him Again 16729143


That's the info I heard, but you gave new things I didn't know. Not surprised Voltaire Network people were a target. This confirms more who's behind all this actually. What a sick world we live in.
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Hi Egypt. What is going on their is the Muslim Brotherhood going to be elected?
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OK, so what happened in Houla, Syria. Time for the truth, no?

Houla is not a town, but an administrative area made up of three villages, each with about 25,000 residents but which today lie largely abandoned. The Sunni market town of Tal Daw has been under rebel control for many weeks. The Free “Syrian” Army had imposed its rule there. The national Army was securing transport routes by maintaining several posts on roads within the area, but did not venture beyond these roads.

Certain individuals kidnapped children and attempted unsuccessfully to extort ransoms. In the end, these children were killed a few days before the Houla massacre, but their bodies were brought by the Free “Syrian” Army to be laid out amongst the others.

In the evening of 24 May, the Free “Syrian” Army launched a very large-scale operation to reinforce its control over the region, and to make Tal Daw its new base.

In order to do this, 600-800 combatants from various districts gathered in Rastan and Saan and proceeded to launch simultaneous attacks on the military bases. At the same time, a team was fortifying Tal Daw by installing five anti-tank missile batteries, and purging the town of some of its inhabitants.

The first victims in Tel Daw were a dozen people related to Abd al-Muty Mashlab – a legislator of the recently elected Baas party who was appointed Secretary of the National Assembly; following this, the family of a senior official – Mouawyya al-Sayyed – was killed. Subsequent targets were families of Sunni origin who had converted to Shiite Islam.

Other victims included the family of two journalists for Top News and New Orient News, press agencies associated with Voltaire Network. Many people, including children, were raped before being killed.

With only one of the Army’s bases having fallen, the assailants changed strategy. They transformed a military defeat into a communication operation, attacking the al-Watani hospital and setting fire to it. They took corpses from the hospital morgue and transported them along with those of other victims to the mosque, where the bodies were filmed.

The theory of a single massacre perpetrated by pro-government militia does not stand up to the facts. There were battles which took place between loyalists and rebels, as well as several massacres of pro-government civilians at the hands of the rebels.

Then, a scenario was staged by the Free “Syrian” Army where corpses originating from these various earlier situations were mixed together.

Indeed, the existence of the “Shabbihas” is a myth. Whilst there are certainly individuals in favor of the government who are armed and capable of committing acts of revenge, there is no structure or organized group that could be termed as a pro-government militia.

Bottom Line? The Syrian government is not killing Syrian people.
 Quoting: Him Again 16729143


That's the info I heard, but you gave new things I didn't know. Not surprised Voltaire Network people were a target. This confirms more who's behind all this actually. What a sick world we live in.
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Hi Egypt. What is going on their is the Muslim Brotherhood going to be elected?
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I have no clue, nobody knows what will happen in the end. For me personally, doesn't matter which one wins, because I think the outcome will be same. 2 sides of a coin is what it is imo.
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Bottom line-there is no completely correct side to any of this. There are bad people on both sides, so stop being so quick to Judge. We all fall short, good thing we have a savior in Jesus.

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interesting how the Syrian military & their Russian allies can not locate the people responsible for the killing of innocent civilians.
 Quoting: CASCABEL


How are they supposed to do that? Was it this FSA terrorist with the AK or maybe this terrorist from the Al Nusra front?
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From the Russian foreign ministry.

Lavrov Says Syria Opposition Will Never Defeat Assad's Army

[link to www.naharnet.com]
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Bottom line-there is no completely correct side to any of this. There are bad people on both sides, so stop being so quick to Judge. We all fall short, good thing we have a savior in Jesus.
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I wish Jesus was coming to save us. God helps those who help themselves and in order for us humans to see the truth about what is going on in the world we have to clean up our own backyards. Most people are in grave DENIAL about themselves and their lives, they will be unable to see the TRUTH as long as they refuse to deal with themselves and their lives.
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Bottom line-there is no completely correct side to any of this. There are bad people on both sides, so stop being so quick to Judge. We all fall short, good thing we have a savior in Jesus.
 Quoting: Machine42


I wish Jesus was coming to save us. God helps those who help themselves and in order for us humans to see the truth about what is going on in the world we have to clean up our own backyards. Most people are in grave DENIAL about themselves and their lives, they will be unable to see the TRUTH as long as they refuse to deal with themselves and their lives.
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Well one day he will come for us, for some earlier than others. We can't do it on our own, no matter how hard everyone tries to do the right thing they will always fall short. This is the curse, we need a savior to wash it all away and we have been given one from God himself. This does not give us an excuse to go out and do wrong, when you know Jesus your heart changes, your still human and not perfect but the holy spirit now lives inside you.
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that the Syrian regime is carrying out a massacre of civilians, as reports surfaced that some 100 people had been killed there over the weekend.

[link to www.haaretz.com]
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Benjamin Netanyahu the piece of shit he is knows all about massacres ask the Palestinians
 Quoting: Dave 1577793


False claims. Any proof?

bsflag
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[link to www.wsws.org]

Does not take much idiot israel has no right at all to criticise syria human right lol in fact israel does what it want because yourlying corrupt goverment lets it
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Bottom line-there is no completely correct side to any of this. There are bad people on both sides, so stop being so quick to Judge. We all fall short, good thing we have a savior in Jesus.
 Quoting: Machine42


I wish Jesus was coming to save us. God helps those who help themselves and in order for us humans to see the truth about what is going on in the world we have to clean up our own backyards. Most people are in grave DENIAL about themselves and their lives, they will be unable to see the TRUTH as long as they refuse to deal with themselves and their lives.
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Well one day he will come for us, for some earlier than others. We can't do it on our own, no matter how hard everyone tries to do the right thing they will always fall short. This is the curse, we need a savior to wash it all away and we have been given one from God himself. This does not give us an excuse to go out and do wrong, when you know Jesus your heart changes, your still human and not perfect but the holy spirit now lives inside you.
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Can you not see how your attitude makes it so easy for them to continue doing what they have done for 1,00's of years? All we have had on this planet is WAR and TRAUMAS and PROPAGANDA and LIES. Do you know what that does to people no wonder the world is in the shape it is in. No, we all need to grow up no one is coming to save us. If most of us were willing to truly deal with our dark sides we would see it in the world and put a stop to it.
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When the MSM is parading these types of stories, be wary.
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that the Syrian regime is carrying out a massacre of civilians, as reports surfaced that some 100 people had been killed there over the weekend.

[link to www.haaretz.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


Benjamin Netanyahu the piece of shit he is knows all about massacres ask the Palestinians
 Quoting: Dave 1577793


False claims. Any proof?

bsflag
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[link to www.wsws.org]

Does not take much idiot israel has no right at all to criticise syria human right lol in fact israel does what it want because yourlying corrupt goverment lets it
 Quoting: Dave 1577793


Your labeling Benjamin Netanyahu responsible for this? I know there are hard feelings from both sides and this kind happens on both sides. God loves both sides. There is not any one man responsible for this, its human beings curse. Who here can cast the first stone? Every nation and person falls short.
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Of course Israel is calling for international intervention.

It would result in regime change and the installed political body will reject the Syrian-Russian agreements.

Russia must defend Syria if attacked, in return Syria gave Russia a warm water port and many other locations for military bases.

If Russia losses those bases, they are no longer obligated to defend Syria if under attack.

Then Israel can bomb the fuck out of Syria when the Iranian Nuclear Facilities are destroyed. Because Iran and Syria also have a defense pact with each other.

If Israel attacked Iran today, Syria will intervene as well. But Israel can not fire back at Syria unless Israel wants Russia pounding down on them.

So, Israel would need a solution to the Syrian problem. Remove the Russian military politically, then strike.



Best way to get rid of Assad is turn him into a criminal dictator.

Funny how all these dictators decide to kill their own people suddenly in the last few years.

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Sure you can, they just won't be very effective in targeting. Disable the guidance and lob the missile like artillery would. It has been done before and many AA systems have over rides for just such a thing.
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Not that it cannot, but it is redundant, especially when you have missiles in your inventory with the sole purpose of ground strike, you have to understand that AA missile have tiny amount of explosive packed into them, it is more rocket fuel than anything, as to decrease the weight so the missile is able to fly further and faster.
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I understand that, it is redundant on a tactical level. But if a force wants to scare a population, they don't fire effective ground to ground weapons or else they would be killed off. A weaker rocket which only bangs up a few apartments is enough to scare people and not kill too many.

If they want to hide who is doing so, using AA on ground is perfect. Simply state the weapon system could not have done the attacks, and people believe it.

Of course I am speculating, I am not in the region atm.
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No, BM-21 grads are able to do as you state, they have about the same explosive content as the more top tier, longer range AA missile systems in the Syrian Army inventory. They would not waste AA materials on the FSA, that is just stupid, when they have a large array of different MLRS available, ranging from 15kg warheads to 70kg.
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I guess you missed the part where I said I was just SPECULATING.....
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It is very hard to say as we are not privy to inside info. But let's not forget that TPTB have run this world from its insemination this time around(3,000 BC). We do not even know how to interpret the truth even if we got it. I think the NWO is progressing very well and is right on schedule I am afraid. I think both Russia and China may have been infiltrated although I am not sure. Are we trying to surrond Iran or Russia or Both or just make it look like Russia is involve? I don't know.
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It is worthwhile at this point to re-examine how it was that the Princes of Muscovy threw off the Empire of the Golden Horde.

First they pretended to cooperate with them . . .
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syria should invite chinese and russian troops in
to restore order

did NATO include china or russia in its various occupation forces, which invaded without the invitation of the government of the targeted country?

china and russia should enter syria with syrian govts permission
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interesting how the Syrian military & their Russian allies can not locate the people responsible for the killing of innocent civilians.
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How are they supposed to do that? Was it this FSA terrorist with the AK or maybe this terrorist from the Al Nusra front?
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is it possible that Russia, Iran, Syria, China, & others also incorporate this [link to www.allworldwars.com] type of style?
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Bottom line-there is no completely correct side to any of this. There are bad people on both sides, so stop being so quick to Judge. We all fall short, good thing we have a savior in Jesus.
 Quoting: Machine42


I wish Jesus was coming to save us. God helps those who help themselves and in order for us humans to see the truth about what is going on in the world we have to clean up our own backyards. Most people are in grave DENIAL about themselves and their lives, they will be unable to see the TRUTH as long as they refuse to deal with themselves and their lives.
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Well one day he will come for us, for some earlier than others. We can't do it on our own, no matter how hard everyone tries to do the right thing they will always fall short. This is the curse, we need a savior to wash it all away and we have been given one from God himself. This does not give us an excuse to go out and do wrong, when you know Jesus your heart changes, your still human and not perfect but the holy spirit now lives inside you.
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Can you not see how your attitude makes it so easy for them to continue doing what they have done for 1,00's of years? All we have had on this planet is WAR and TRAUMAS and PROPAGANDA and LIES. Do you know what that does to people no wonder the world is in the shape it is in. No, we all need to grow up no one is coming to save us. If most of us were willing to truly deal with our dark sides we would see it in the world and put a stop to it.
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Sorry but the people of the world will never save themselves. The rejection of God's laws is why we are where we are. How do we "truly deal with our dark sides"?? Well, I believe God provided a way to do this.
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Bottom line-there is no completely correct side to any of this. There are bad people on both sides, so stop being so quick to Judge. We all fall short, good thing we have a savior in Jesus.
 Quoting: Machine42


I wish Jesus was coming to save us. God helps those who help themselves and in order for us humans to see the truth about what is going on in the world we have to clean up our own backyards. Most people are in grave DENIAL about themselves and their lives, they will be unable to see the TRUTH as long as they refuse to deal with themselves and their lives.
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Well one day he will come for us, for some earlier than others. We can't do it on our own, no matter how hard everyone tries to do the right thing they will always fall short. This is the curse, we need a savior to wash it all away and we have been given one from God himself. This does not give us an excuse to go out and do wrong, when you know Jesus your heart changes, your still human and not perfect but the holy spirit now lives inside you.
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Yeah.. so in the time being, how about the Jesus people get up off their collective arse and do something to fix the world instead of preaching all the damn time.

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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

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Bottom line-there is no completely correct side to any of this. There are bad people on both sides, so stop being so quick to Judge. We all fall short, good thing we have a savior in Jesus.
 Quoting: Machine42


I wish Jesus was coming to save us. God helps those who help themselves and in order for us humans to see the truth about what is going on in the world we have to clean up our own backyards. Most people are in grave DENIAL about themselves and their lives, they will be unable to see the TRUTH as long as they refuse to deal with themselves and their lives.
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Well one day he will come for us, for some earlier than others. We can't do it on our own, no matter how hard everyone tries to do the right thing they will always fall short. This is the curse, we need a savior to wash it all away and we have been given one from God himself. This does not give us an excuse to go out and do wrong, when you know Jesus your heart changes, your still human and not perfect but the holy spirit now lives inside you.
 Quoting: Machine42


Can you not see how your attitude makes it so easy for them to continue doing what they have done for 1,00's of years? All we have had on this planet is WAR and TRAUMAS and PROPAGANDA and LIES. Do you know what that does to people no wonder the world is in the shape it is in. No, we all need to grow up no one is coming to save us. If most of us were willing to truly deal with our dark sides we would see it in the world and put a stop to it.
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No. They don't get it. They'd rather wait on God to fix it instead of actually doing anything about it. It's how we ended up in this fucking mess to begin with.
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Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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syria should invite chinese and russian troops in
to restore order

did NATO include china or russia in its various occupation forces, which invaded without the invitation of the government of the targeted country?

china and russia should enter syria with syrian govts permission
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They may. As of right now, the situation is under control. But there is a large rebel counterattack going on in Homs, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

It should be noted that right now, the rebels are stronger than they were before the peace plan, they must have used the cease fire to rearm. It wont really get them very far though, they can't even keep ground in Homs for more than a few days. Kofi Annan is a NWO POS.
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Isn't it said the first victim of war is the truth?

I doubt very many people even know who is doing what other than the actual perps.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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I wish Jesus was coming to save us. God helps those who help themselves and in order for us humans to see the truth about what is going on in the world we have to clean up our own backyards. Most people are in grave DENIAL about themselves and their lives, they will be unable to see the TRUTH as long as they refuse to deal with themselves and their lives.
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Well one day he will come for us, for some earlier than others. We can't do it on our own, no matter how hard everyone tries to do the right thing they will always fall short. This is the curse, we need a savior to wash it all away and we have been given one from God himself. This does not give us an excuse to go out and do wrong, when you know Jesus your heart changes, your still human and not perfect but the holy spirit now lives inside you.
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Can you not see how your attitude makes it so easy for them to continue doing what they have done for 1,00's of years? All we have had on this planet is WAR and TRAUMAS and PROPAGANDA and LIES. Do you know what that does to people no wonder the world is in the shape it is in. No, we all need to grow up no one is coming to save us. If most of us were willing to truly deal with our dark sides we would see it in the world and put a stop to it.
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Sorry but the people of the world will never save themselves. The rejection of God's laws is why we are where we are. How do we "truly deal with our dark sides"?? Well, I believe God provided a way to do this.
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Who said anything about rejecting a higher power or GOD, certainly not me. However, all the religions are tools of TPTP in that they have resulted in most of the violence the world has experienced starting from the merging of Constantin's Roman Empire with the Scorer's in the Vatican and resulting in the Inquisition, the Crusade's, the reformation, the counter-reformation, Pedophilia and soon to be the Holy War to end all holy war's WW3. They are almost all related to religious differences and it is called divide and conquer.

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It's not often I fly this flag,

but I'm calling BS.


bsflag

absolute bunk
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syria should invite chinese and russian troops in
to restore order

did NATO include china or russia in its various occupation forces, which invaded without the invitation of the government of the targeted country?

china and russia should enter syria with syrian govts permission
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16741446


They may. As of right now, the situation is under control. But there is a large rebel counterattack going on in Homs, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

It should be noted that right now, the rebels are stronger than they were before the peace plan, they must have used the cease fire to rearm. It wont really get them very far though, they can't even keep ground in Homs for more than a few days. Kofi Annan is a NWO POS.
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It will be very interesting to see what Russia does do if anything. It would seem by now if they were really serious they would have been raising more of a fuss. I hope I am wrong and Putin is not part of the NWO. But you have to remember Reagan and his speech in Berlin when he asked Mikhail Gorbachev to "Bring down this wall" and a few months later it magically came down, don't you think that made Reagan look like a hero. However, a little too coincidental for me. Oh and don't forget how it was Wall St. that funded the Bolshevik Rev. If you think TPTB play no role in Russia, I would guess again. There is no one better at infiltration and conversion than the Anglophile empire. I hope I am wrong about the internal affairs of Russia, truly. Because Putin sounds really good when he speaks but so did Ben Franklin, if you catch my drift.

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syria should invite chinese and russian troops in
to restore order

did NATO include china or russia in its various occupation forces, which invaded without the invitation of the government of the targeted country?

china and russia should enter syria with syrian govts permission
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16741446


They may. As of right now, the situation is under control. But there is a large rebel counterattack going on in Homs, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

It should be noted that right now, the rebels are stronger than they were before the peace plan, they must have used the cease fire to rearm. It wont really get them very far though, they can't even keep ground in Homs for more than a few days. Kofi Annan is a NWO POS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11145700


It will be very interesting to see what Russia does do if anything. It would seem by now if they were really serious they would have been raising more of a fuss. I hope I am wrong and Putin is not part of the NWO. But you have to remember Reagan and his speech in Berlin when he asked Mikhail Gorbachev to "Bring down this wall" and a few months later it magically came down, don't you think that made Reagan look like a hero. However, a little too coincidental for me. Oh and don't forget how it was Wall St. that funded the Bolshevik Rev. If you think TPTB play no role in Russia, I would guess again. There is no one better at infiltration and conversion than the Anglophile empire. I hope I am wrong about the internal affairs of Russia, truly. Because Putin sounds really good when he speaks but so did Ben Franklin, if you catch my drift.
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Have you seen worthless Gorbachev today? He hates Putin with a passion.

Russia isn't raising a fuss, because strategically, the rebels are not gaining any ground. There are 100,000 Russian nationals living in Syria, the second they thought Assad was going to fall, they would be releasing notices to evacuate the country, this hasn't happened, nor do they have any publicly known plan to do so. The Russian foreign ministry just stated that the rebels have zero chance to beat the Syrian army militarily.

As far as their concerned as long as NATO stays out, Assad will remain in power until he steps down and is replaced as stated by their newly adopted constitution. Not much will change over the next few years.
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syria should invite chinese and russian troops in
to restore order

did NATO include china or russia in its various occupation forces, which invaded without the invitation of the government of the targeted country?

china and russia should enter syria with syrian govts permission
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16741446


They may. As of right now, the situation is under control. But there is a large rebel counterattack going on in Homs, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

It should be noted that right now, the rebels are stronger than they were before the peace plan, they must have used the cease fire to rearm. It wont really get them very far though, they can't even keep ground in Homs for more than a few days. Kofi Annan is a NWO POS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11145700


It will be very interesting to see what Russia does do if anything. It would seem by now if they were really serious they would have been raising more of a fuss. I hope I am wrong and Putin is not part of the NWO. But you have to remember Reagan and his speech in Berlin when he asked Mikhail Gorbachev to "Bring down this wall" and a few months later it magically came down, don't you think that made Reagan look like a hero. However, a little too coincidental for me. Oh and don't forget how it was Wall St. that funded the Bolshevik Rev. If you think TPTB play no role in Russia, I would guess again. There is no one better at infiltration and conversion than the Anglophile empire. I hope I am wrong about the internal affairs of Russia, truly. Because Putin sounds really good when he speaks but so did Ben Franklin, if you catch my drift.
 Quoting: grefey


Have you seen worthless Gorbachev today? He hates Putin with a passion.

Russia isn't raising a fuss, because strategically, the rebels are not gaining any ground. There are 100,000 Russian nationals living in Syria, the second they thought Assad was going to fall, they would be releasing notices to evacuate the country, this hasn't happened, nor do they have any publicly known plan to do so. The Russian foreign ministry just stated that the rebels have zero chance to beat the Syrian army militarily.

As far as their concerned as long as NATO stays out, Assad will remain in power until he steps down and is replaced as stated by their newly adopted constitution. Not much will change over the next few years.
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I truly hope you are correct and Russia and Putin have firm resolve, as they appear to be the only hope to stop the NWO agenda. From what I can see of Putin he has helped Russia a lot and appears to be a highly intelligent and able statesman. For sure NATO appears to be backing them into a corner with the missile defense thing. It is a very difficult puzzle to piece together. Peace
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They may. As of right now, the situation is under control. But there is a large rebel counterattack going on in Homs, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

It should be noted that right now, the rebels are stronger than they were before the peace plan, they must have used the cease fire to rearm. It wont really get them very far though, they can't even keep ground in Homs for more than a few days. Kofi Annan is a NWO POS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11145700


It will be very interesting to see what Russia does do if anything. It would seem by now if they were really serious they would have been raising more of a fuss. I hope I am wrong and Putin is not part of the NWO. But you have to remember Reagan and his speech in Berlin when he asked Mikhail Gorbachev to "Bring down this wall" and a few months later it magically came down, don't you think that made Reagan look like a hero. However, a little too coincidental for me. Oh and don't forget how it was Wall St. that funded the Bolshevik Rev. If you think TPTB play no role in Russia, I would guess again. There is no one better at infiltration and conversion than the Anglophile empire. I hope I am wrong about the internal affairs of Russia, truly. Because Putin sounds really good when he speaks but so did Ben Franklin, if you catch my drift.
 Quoting: grefey


Have you seen worthless Gorbachev today? He hates Putin with a passion.

Russia isn't raising a fuss, because strategically, the rebels are not gaining any ground. There are 100,000 Russian nationals living in Syria, the second they thought Assad was going to fall, they would be releasing notices to evacuate the country, this hasn't happened, nor do they have any publicly known plan to do so. The Russian foreign ministry just stated that the rebels have zero chance to beat the Syrian army militarily.

As far as their concerned as long as NATO stays out, Assad will remain in power until he steps down and is replaced as stated by their newly adopted constitution. Not much will change over the next few years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11145700


I truly hope you are correct and Russia and Putin have firm resolve, as they appear to be the only hope to stop the NWO agenda. From what I can see of Putin he has helped Russia a lot and appears to be a highly intelligent and able statesman. For sure NATO appears to be backing them into a corner with the missile defense thing. It is a very difficult puzzle to piece together. Peace
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The thing about Russia is that you shouldn't expect them to save anyone but themselves. The only reason Russia is backing the Syrian state is because it is strategically important for them. If it wasn't the counterbalance to Turkey and Israel, Assad would be out by now and replaced by a UAE puppet.

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