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BREAKING: Ron Paul co-opted by Neocon plants, says former staffer.

 
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The way I look at it, the damage to the neo-conjobs has already been delivered. We are fast approaching a cross-roads and the tide is turning. It ain't about the Pauls.... it's about you and me. It's time for humanity to wake up and smell the stinking roses!


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really true, this constant game of hide and seek with our truth(s) has grown into a cancer.


it (this negative feedback loop) is leaching the vital nutrients that we need as a society to fuction properly.


the solution from doctors? more zombie Pills.


the solution from politicians? more war, money printing and control.


the solution from the people? more iFads, sugary GMO poisons and Prozac.

the solution from me? bitch and moan on GLP? Is that all I got?

I got guns.
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Even if true, the message of liberty still got out. And if true, Ron wasn't strong enough to be president. And if not true, he wasn't strong enough. It's the message that's important, a single man cannot change our path, only a majority of the people. It's a huge long term task. People are flawed everywhere, but so long as the message is growing we are winning.
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That is exactly right.
Breaking Amish on TLC is completely fake and staged!

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Any FOOL who thinks there are real elections in the USA is out of touch with reality!

There have been no real elections in the US for decades.

The Bush/Clinton Cabal run this joint and Obama is their last puppet to bring this nation to ruin as they hand it over to their masters from Russia and China.

We are about to go into WWIII and we are going to lose.

Expect an EMP attack on the US and a few weeks after troops from Russia and China will come in and take control.

It is over dumbasses. There will be no (fake) election as Obama is the last President the USA will ever see as a nation.

All the Ron Paul thing was for was to take the money from anyone who is in opposition to the cabal and to ID anyone who will be a threat to the coming masters.

If you are tagged as a Ron Paul supporter in any way you are now tagged as a threat to the cabal and will be hunted down like dogs to be killed by the troops from Russia and China.

All of that will happen as all of our troops are tied up in the middle east and Korea fighting WWIII and the cabal leaders..Bushes..Clintons..amd their minions will all be safe in ther south american compounds while we are all slaughtered. (population reduction)

It is over.

Best of luck to everyone.

There is not much time left before they shut down the net and we lose the grid...so whatever money you Ron Paul terrorist have left...you may wana buy some food and preps.
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Wow....just............Wow....

That pretty much sums it up for me as well....just remember, the ants still outnumber the grasshoppers.
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Even if true, the message of liberty still got out. And if true, Ron wasn't strong enough to be president. And if not true, he wasn't strong enough. It's the message that's important, a single man cannot change our path, only a majority of the people. It's a huge long term task. People are flawed everywhere, but so long as the message is growing we are winning.
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Sorry dude but that message has been sung to deaf ears for half a century and has had zero effect.

Behold..."the message" from 1962

Red Nightmare - 1962 - Communist takeover of America

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lol, I got it. We'll ask for grass roots campaign contributions and bust our asses off going around the country trying to make our point in order to profit. Then we'll have Rand do a 180 and endorse Romney (even if it means it will completely discredit him as a politician) in order to get a good laugh.

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It is over dumbasses. There will be no (fake) election as Obama is the last President the USA will ever see as a nation.
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They said the same thing about Clinton and Bush. People who believe this shit are just doomtards addicted to the narcotic rush from fear porn. And why is the doom is always just around the corner (always gets magically delayed)
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I hoped Paul would win if for no other reason to shake up TPTB and our system. I voted for him this time. It has taken both republican and democrat leadership to arrive where we are. nearly 16 trillion of natl debt and entitlement programs we cannot pay for and military spending we cannot afford. did i mention inflation. yes, lots and lots of inflation. the fed has ruined our money by printing more and more of it. look at the prices of vehicles, gas, energy, food, etc etc..the list goes on. i think we all know nothing much is going to change under romney or obama. either way big spending will continue and that my friends is REALITY. i voted for romney in 2008 in the republican race and i will support him again against obama this go around but the reality is NOTHING MUCH WILL CHANGE and that's the sad state of affairs we are facing.

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Even if true, the message of liberty still got out. And if true, Ron wasn't strong enough to be president. And if not true, he wasn't strong enough. It's the message that's important, a single man cannot change our path, only a majority of the people. It's a huge long term task. People are flawed everywhere, but so long as the message is growing we are winning.
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Sorry dude but that message has been sung to deaf ears for half a century and has had zero effect.

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True, but that's because the hippies have run things. Generation get mine. Ask the college kids today if they are listening. When the prior generation steals your future, the message of freedom and liberty is louder.
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Even if true, the message of liberty still got out. And if true, Ron wasn't strong enough to be president. And if not true, he wasn't strong enough. It's the message that's important, a single man cannot change our path, only a majority of the people. It's a huge long term task. People are flawed everywhere, but so long as the message is growing we are winning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1410299


Sorry dude but that message has been sung to deaf ears for half a century and has had zero effect.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 932005


True, but that's because the hippies have run things. Generation get mine. Ask the college kids today if they are listening. When the prior generation steals your future, the message of freedom and liberty is louder.
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It's also a little ironic that kids grow up to be what their parents warned them about. The baby boomers grew up to think like the communists their parents warned them against. This new generation is growing up to be libertarians which the current baby boomers are warning them against.

The mainstream media keeps says libertarians are nuts and we should all be socialists. Guess what the will become?
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One thing that has intrigued me about the Ron Paul supporters is their disconnect from reality. I think it is safe to say that the probablity (inductive) of Paul receiving the GOP nomination is nonexistent; however, there is already a Libertarian preseidential nominee, Gary Johnson. Johnson will be on the ballot and if the Paul supporters really do espouse libertarian principles, then why are they not actively supporting Johnson; instead, they claim that they will write-in Ron Paul and this action does little to bring their cause to the masses.
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Because the libertarian party is a dead duck. Paul got more coverage as a republican and he kicked a bunch of their butts. What this means is, he will be steadily be gaining supporters from former republicans over the coming years. It's been happening for years already.
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And thus the problem. We are given two crooks that we are allowed to chose from; well at least we have the preception of choice. The networks won't even let another party debate (Libertarian, green, etc.) And people will vote for one of the two puppets based on very little:

1. They always vote one party or another due to upbringing or a naive belief in a party platform.
2. they are the lesser or two evils.
3. In this election; race.
4. In support of one social issue that is improtant to them above all else (Abortion, gun control, etc.).
5. Religion.


I'm sure others can add to the list, but people vote for insane reasons, and get what they pay for. Congress has had the same poor approval rates for years, but no one in this country will throw them out. Likely because the vote is controlled anyway, but at some point....the American people have to fix it.
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told ya so

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The Ron Paul supporters have been living in denial for a long time. I was sure that when the end came it would be interesting and it certainly has. At this point any straw will do to save themselves from doing actual self reflection.

If you guys want to move forward you really need to stop this nonsense and ask yourself some questions.

1. How could I have been so wrong about something like this for so long?

2. What am I avoiding within myself that causes me to turn to saviour figures, especially figures what are obvious frauds?

3. Why am I having so much trouble facing reality even now that it's almost unavoidable?

I'm sure you can think of more as you go.
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Really good questions to always keep in mind.
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The whole rotten, stinking, filthy system of modern day politics is beyond fixing, it doesn't matter who the candidate is, because if they are any good, they will be derailed, one way or the other.
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Ain't that the truth. All the sheep who follow the Conservative, or liberal platform, those so rabid towards each other, are just tools of the trade.
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

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Someday very soon...

American politics will be allocated a space in the Dinosaur Museum where it belongs.

Extinction for all time.
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Someday very soon...

American politics will be allocated a space in the Dinosaur Museum where it belongs.

Extinction for all time.
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I think we should go to the no party system. With today's technology, you no longer need the machine to get your name out there. Today, it is the machine of party politics that is running the show, the politicians exist only to feed the machine, and could care less about the job they were voted to do. They do the job just well enough to get by, but its the machine that drives them.

If there was no machine behind them, they would have to sell themselves on their personal integrity, their experience, the attributes that matter in the job they are about to take.

When you interview for a job, do you have a Party to back you up?
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
Siddhartha
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Have you considered RP is more of the same?

When you see nobody's taking down long term "acceptable" candidates, you may want to put your votes to use changing the staus-quo, and get on that band-wagon (aka Tea Party)
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Someday very soon...

American politics will be allocated a space in the Dinosaur Museum where it belongs.

Extinction for all time.
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I think we should go to the no party system. With today's technology, you no longer need the machine to get your name out there. Today, it is the machine of party politics that is running the show, the politicians exist only to feed the machine, and could care less about the job they were voted to do. They do the job just well enough to get by, but its the machine that drives them.

If there was no machine behind them, they would have to sell themselves on their personal integrity, their experience, the attributes that matter in the job they are about to take.

When you interview for a job, do you have a Party to back you up?
 Quoting: Fire & Ice


But once again, it boils down to money, so the above will never happen, too much money to lose.
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
Siddhartha
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And Rand Paul is running with the big money.....

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Someday very soon...

American politics will be allocated a space in the Dinosaur Museum where it belongs.

Extinction for all time.
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Any FOOL who thinks there are real elections in the USA is out of touch with reality!

There have been no real elections in the US for decades.

The Bush/Clinton Cabal run this joint and Obama is their last puppet to bring this nation to ruin as they hand it over to their masters from Russia and China.

We are about to go into WWIII and we are going to lose.

Expect an EMP attack on the US and a few weeks after troops from Russia and China will come in and take control.

It is over dumbasses. There will be no (fake) election as Obama is the last President the USA will ever see as a nation.

All the Ron Paul thing was for was to take the money from anyone who is in opposition to the cabal and to ID anyone who will be a threat to the coming masters.

If you are tagged as a Ron Paul supporter in any way you are now tagged as a threat to the cabal and will be hunted down like dogs to be killed by the troops from Russia and China.

All of that will happen as all of our troops are tied up in the middle east and Korea fighting WWIII and the cabal leaders..Bushes..Clintons..amd their minions will all be safe in ther south american compounds while we are all slaughtered. (population reduction)

It is over.

Best of luck to everyone.

There is not much time left before they shut down the net and we lose the grid...so whatever money you Ron Paul terrorist have left...you may wana buy some food and preps.
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Your reading of history is innacurate and hysterical and none of your predictions will come true. Reality is boring, but it's better than living in this nightmare you've created.
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No, I think YOUR reality is distorted. If you can't see this coming...I admit the underground take-over tactics of the cabal are very cunning, stealthy - and patient - since this take-over has been creeping in for hundreds of years by these bastards, but really. It IS quite obvious by now. Just look at the planet! It is a MESS. All brought to you by the instigators - our overlords.
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Someday very soon...

American politics will be allocated a space in the Dinosaur Museum where it belongs.

Extinction for all time.
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Really? Where in the constitution does it say you need a political party to get elected? Nothing changes except the control of the party on the political landscape. The constitution was put in place to prevent dictatorships, and the sooner we get back to its concepts, the better off we will be.
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
Siddhartha
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Ron Paul

End The Federal Reserve and return to real money.

End the IRS (Take it from The People arm of the Federal Reserve).

End Corporate Funding of Politicians, Create strict term limits.

Restore the Constitution, return to strict observance.

These Ideas will not go away but rather have been gaining strength for a long time now; the trend will continue.

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Even if true, the message of liberty still got out. And if true, Ron wasn't strong enough to be president. And if not true, he wasn't strong enough. It's the message that's important, a single man cannot change our path, only a majority of the people. It's a huge long term task. People are flawed everywhere, but so long as the message is growing we are winning.
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Sorry dude but that message has been sung to deaf ears for half a century and has had zero effect.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 932005


True, but that's because the hippies have run things. Generation get mine. Ask the college kids today if they are listening. When the prior generation steals your future, the message of freedom and liberty is louder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1410299


If this were true, WWII would have stolen the Boomers' future!

Imagine being left to pay for that! And a surtax for Vietnam!

Gen Nothings need to so get over themselves.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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I hoped Paul would win if for no other reason to shake up TPTB and our system. I voted for him this time. It has taken both republican and democrat leadership to arrive where we are. nearly 16 trillion of natl debt and entitlement programs we cannot pay for and military spending we cannot afford. did i mention inflation. yes, lots and lots of inflation. the fed has ruined our money by printing more and more of it. look at the prices of vehicles, gas, energy, food, etc etc..the list goes on. i think we all know nothing much is going to change under romney or obama. either way big spending will continue and that my friends is REALITY. i voted for romney in 2008 in the republican race and i will support him again against obama this go around but the reality is NOTHING MUCH WILL CHANGE and that's the sad state of affairs we are facing.
 Quoting: OVRANALYZE


Pretty much this.

Nothing will change but it wouldn't have under Paul either as he would not have enough support in congress to get anything passed.

SSDD no matter who is elected POTUS. All they can do is direct discretionary spending and the country is too broke to have much of that any more since Obama blew it on his cohorts.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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The whole rotten, stinking, filthy system of modern day politics is beyond fixing, it doesn't matter who the candidate is, because if they are any good, they will be derailed, one way or the other.
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theater for the masses
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We need to quit pussy-footing around.

We need a REAL LEADER with an ELECTRIC SPEAKING ABILITY that can truly awaken the people.

Consider what is going on here:



[link to www.youtube.com]

WHERE is the American equivalent taking the streets? Marching with their banners and uniforms and slogans and demanding an end to the New World Order?

WHERE IS IT???

Listen to this...



[link to www.youtube.com]

But it is only a shadow of the POWER OF AN ORATOR THAT MUST COME NOW!!!

We need uniforms; we need flags; we need street battles; we need putsches; we need writers, singers, movie makers, and stars. We need young and we need the old. We need those who are yet truly Americans who are sick of this subverting cancer of the New World Order.

WHERE IS THE ORATOR?

WHERE IS THE LEADER?

WHERE IS THE FUHRER???
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Even if true, the message of liberty still got out. And if true, Ron wasn't strong enough to be president. And if not true, he wasn't strong enough. It's the message that's important, a single man cannot change our path, only a majority of the people. It's a huge long term task. People are flawed everywhere, but so long as the message is growing we are winning.
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That is exactly right.
 Quoting: Macklin Samfert


This is one of those delusional comments that us "non-tards" would class as delusional; Paul's message is just as flawed, if not more flawed, than he is.

It is naive, and it would lead America to ruin.

But the "tards" don't see this; theyre so caught up in the personality cult to look at the policies in clearheaded way.

The irony is that this is the same weakness that created the Obama Presidency, the inability to see past the messenger to the message.

Why should we be surprised; America is extremely shallow and tend to obsess over "celebrity". Paul is just another celebrity.
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Any FOOL who thinks there are real elections in the USA is out of touch with reality!

There have been no real elections in the US for decades.

The Bush/Clinton Cabal run this joint and Obama is their last puppet to bring this nation to ruin as they hand it over to their masters from Russia and China.

We are about to go into WWIII and we are going to lose.

Expect an EMP attack on the US and a few weeks after troops from Russia and China will come in and take control.

It is over dumbasses. There will be no (fake) election as Obama is the last President the USA will ever see as a nation.

All the Ron Paul thing was for was to take the money from anyone who is in opposition to the cabal and to ID anyone who will be a threat to the coming masters.

If you are tagged as a Ron Paul supporter in any way you are now tagged as a threat to the cabal and will be hunted down like dogs to be killed by the troops from Russia and China.

All of that will happen as all of our troops are tied up in the middle east and Korea fighting WWIII and the cabal leaders..Bushes..Clintons..amd their minions will all be safe in ther south american compounds while we are all slaughtered. (population reduction)

It is over.

Best of luck to everyone.

There is not much time left before they shut down the net and we lose the grid...so whatever money you Ron Paul terrorist have left...you may wana buy some food and preps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 932005


Wow....just............Wow....

That pretty much sums it up for me as well....just remember, the ants still outnumber the grasshoppers.
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"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

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