Rise above Religion

Brought to the point very well.

Let's say God is universal to all life, a singular point. For debate we'll say God is a specific address.

People west of him need to travel east, people east of him need to travel west.

Each person will have a unique path they need to take. People who are similar (neighbors) can share 90% the same roads to get to their God, but they still need to leave their homes which is a different path.


Considering this, some people need a completely different path to reach the same greatness as others.

In this view, religion needs to be as diverse as life itself.

Our flesh is unique to others, but love is the same among us all.

You will not get to Heaven under your own efforts.

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I never said to do it alone. Your neighbors and you can "car pool" to God in the same building. But the person across the globe needs a completely different path.

Each person needs a different religion to reach the same goal. Like a pyramid has endless points of reference along the base, but only one point on the top. Draw a line from a point below to the top, each base point has a different path. But all points on the north side share similar angles where as points on the South side are opposite of the north side.

But they all end up at the same end goal.


Meaning, you NEED to travel with others that are close to you. But you also need to define your OWN path first. Then join others close to you (spiritually).

thank you

And since each soul has it's own path, worshiping the path of another will get you lost. No matter how great they are/were.

Love is the compass, feel love and you are facing the right direction. Stay the path and be at peace.

You assume the Kingdom is "within". But your self is illusion as well.

We'll be here to defend the thread when the Christians show up :) x

Everything is relative to another. Illusion or not, you know where you feel love, don't you?

Rise above Atheism . Rise to a personal relationship with your loving Creator .

The pains from love are felt in heart, yes. But love is everywhere. Yet you are not. And feelings depends on their objects.

Personal, you just said it. It is personal, not social. Religion is a social study of God in other people, not you.

Love is the God in you, me, us.

Love may be everywhere, but it is not manifested until a soul latches on to it. Making our hearts a door way to this eternally ever expansive force of God (Love).



Just as there are 2 forms of truth.

1- Truth from outside of your heart, which can be lies. It is possible to deceive. As your eyes, ears, they all lie to you.

2- Truth from within, which can not be a lie (deception). This truth is forever perfect. Your heart can not lie to you.

All objects are solid, but comprised of non-solid things.

All truth lies in contradictions - and notice how this is a contradiction itself...

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If true nobody would be compelled to go out of oneself. But the opposit is true. The extroverts prevail.

No, you are not the whole Truth, by far. Just a fractal of.

Neti-neti. Rather.

What does neti-neti mean? x

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= neither ... nor. Duality is always/everywhere WRONG.

Ah, o.k. Excellent stuff :)

Extroverts prevail only if you follow their study.

YOU will prevail if you follow your own path. Kind of like, I can never fully explain my minds visions, my hearts feelings. I can only compare.

External to us all is an endless sea of 3d. Internal to us is a well defined point.

To know the pyramid in whole is to know the point at top then follow down. Anything else is only partial.

We can never fully comprehend the ever expanding universe by looking outward. But we can if we look inward.

Remember this one simple equation:


Outside = Inside


It´s called enlightenment. Liberation comes but after.

the good stuff is usually hidden behind fear.

love is the means, not the goal : a beginning, not an end.


each path is unique (which is why dogma fails), with way points illuminated by fear, and understanding facilitated by love.

think of 'love' as a carrier wave. When you 'tune' your radio correctly, it's the stuff 'riding' this wave that we hear: thoughts coming from the heart rather than the 'mind'.

That's pretty much what I am saying. To understand the external expanse, look inside us.

To understand our internal, look onward.


Like we have a mindbody, not a mind + body.

Not totally...


to understand inside, you have to look both inside and outside

to understand outside, you have to look both inside and outside..


Or you might just happen upon understanding without looking anywhere...

Or you might never happen upon it despite looking everywhere.

Outside and inside are complementary. Yet you are trying to deny the first one. Which won´t work.

No denial, rather I am not dividing with labels.

To understand the external universe we must look inward. To understand our internal existence we must observe the external forces around us.

As one can not exist w/o the other, bonded forever as one...we are observing division from God (sin) and are resolving such division. Like a storm is the resolution of warm and cold air masses. The goal is peace.

Agreed.

Crusades?