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About not eating meat...vegetarians and vegans welcome with input for meat eaters..thank you

 
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Thank you for this thread. It suprises me all the famous people that are vegetarians. What are meat replacements.
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Foods which you can eat in the place of meat! The so called meat replacements are foods such as tofu, tempeh or seitan (wheat gluten).

However, I don't agree with the idea of calling a food a "meat replacement". Everything can be a meat replacement and nothing is a meat replacement, if you know what I mean. We don't need any replacements, only a healthy diet (we can get all aminoacids from different kinds of food, not just from meat protein)!
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
To O_o or not to O_o?
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Last Edited by The Bulgarian on 06/11/2012 06:32 AM
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Thank you for this thread. It suprises me all the famous people that are vegetarians. What are meat replacements.
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hf

read above post about meat replacements

hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Will start a thread about the Kingdom..Paradise on earth

because I believe its all related

all connected..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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 Quoting: The Bulgarian


cough..thanks :)

hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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a childish way to look at things.

enjoy anyways.

you can't avoid death and suffering in this paradigm. no one is more pure or innocent than another.
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No-one is suggesting you can avoid death and suffering. You can however (and should ) avoid unnecessary death and suffering.
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I think fish have feelings too

 Quoting: wildhoney


What about plants? It goes on and on and on......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


Ive said it here before :)

I absolutely believe plants have feelings and so much more

I believe they can actually pick up on our thoughts

they can communicate among themselves
they use a form of radar when growing etc..or crawling

thats my idea anyway

you can eat veggies without killing them in most if not all cases..when you grow your own

hf
 Quoting: wildhoney

You realise you're mentally ill right?
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I think fish have feelings too

 Quoting: wildhoney


What about plants? It goes on and on and on......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


Ive said it here before :)

I absolutely believe plants have feelings and so much more

I believe they can actually pick up on our thoughts

they can communicate among themselves
they use a form of radar when growing etc..or crawling

thats my idea anyway

you can eat veggies without killing them in most if not all cases..when you grow your own

hf
 Quoting: wildhoney

You realise you're mentally ill right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


Flat earth society springs to mind.
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I think fish have feelings too

 Quoting: wildhoney


What about plants? It goes on and on and on......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


Ive said it here before :)

I absolutely believe plants have feelings and so much more

I believe they can actually pick up on our thoughts

they can communicate among themselves
they use a form of radar when growing etc..or crawling

thats my idea anyway

you can eat veggies without killing them in most if not all cases..when you grow your own

hf
 Quoting: wildhoney

You realise you're mentally ill right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


unfortunately Im not..lol

quite well balanced and have never taken any medicine for mental disorder or needed it thanks be to God
blush
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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its easy just stop eating meat , i can feel my energy level drop like a rock after a burger so i am 96 % veggatarian
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have never taken any medicine for mental disorder
 Quoting: wildhoney


Do you think this might be the problem as to why you have these bizarre thoughts and want everyone to do all this weird shit?
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have never taken any medicine for mental disorder
 Quoting: wildhoney


Do you think this might be the problem as to why you have these bizarre thoughts and want everyone to do all this weird shit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


It might seem weird to you but to many it makes sense

besides I dont want anyone to do anything..
I respect peoples personal choices and opinions

I merely suggest

I throw things out there

:)

hf

Gosh if I told you all the rest of the stuff I believe your nickers would spin..omgiggles
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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It really depends what kind of meals you're used to.

If you eat a lot of pasta, noodles, pies, soups, stews and such, rather than traditional "meat + 2 veg", it's really easy;

buy quorn :D it comes in chunks, is cheap, loaded with protein, gives the same texture as meat (which, really, is all that's missing when you stop eating meat, right?) and works in all of the above dishes!




You can also get non-meat steaks / fillets, but these sometimes are not as satisfying xx
:sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever.

Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you.

Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie:
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too out of the box for you sweetie wink

wouldnt want to shake your view of reality

lol
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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have never taken any medicine for mental disorder
 Quoting: wildhoney


Do you think this might be the problem as to why you have these bizarre thoughts and want everyone to do all this weird shit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


It might seem weird to you but to many it makes sense

besides I dont want anyone to do anything..
I respect peoples personal choices and opinions

I merely suggest

I throw things out there

:)

hf

Gosh if I told you all the rest of the stuff I believe your nickers would spin..:omgiggles:
 Quoting: wildhoney


I wouldn't say "many" more like less than 1%.
My boxer shorts would not spin, im sure I have heard worse.
But do you think it might be good to talk to someone you know like a Doctor or something?
Because you kind of sound like one of those galactic federation of light people after snorting bath salts.
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have never taken any medicine for mental disorder
 Quoting: wildhoney


Do you think this might be the problem as to why you have these bizarre thoughts and want everyone to do all this weird shit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


It might seem weird to you but to many it makes sense

besides I dont want anyone to do anything..
I respect peoples personal choices and opinions

I merely suggest

I throw things out there

:)

hf

Gosh if I told you all the rest of the stuff I believe your nickers would spin..omgiggles
 Quoting: wildhoney


I wouldn't say "many" more like less than 1%.
My boxer shorts would not spin, im sure I have heard worse.
But do you think it might be good to talk to someone you know like a Doctor or something?
Because you kind of sound like one of those galactic federation of light people after snorting bath salts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


When someone has something valid to say and one doesnt have arguments to debate the usual old hat method might be:


1.try to mock the person
2.make fun of them
3.try to discredit them and show them in a negative light
4.portray them as insane or similar
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Do you think this might be the problem as to why you have these bizarre thoughts and want everyone to do all this weird shit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


It might seem weird to you but to many it makes sense

besides I dont want anyone to do anything..
I respect peoples personal choices and opinions

I merely suggest

I throw things out there

:)

hf

Gosh if I told you all the rest of the stuff I believe your nickers would spin..omgiggles
 Quoting: wildhoney


I wouldn't say "many" more like less than 1%.
My boxer shorts would not spin, im sure I have heard worse.
But do you think it might be good to talk to someone you know like a Doctor or something?
Because you kind of sound like one of those galactic federation of light people after snorting bath salts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


When someone has something valid to say and one doesnt have arguments to debate the usual old hat method might be:


1.try to mock the person
2.make fun of them
3.try to discredit them and show them in a negative light
4.portray them as insane or similar
 Quoting: wildhoney



Those four things are all examples of what's called "ad hominem" - attacking the arguer, rather than the argument.

But you're derailing your own thread! xx
:sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever.

Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you.

Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie:
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It might seem weird to you but to many it makes sense

besides I dont want anyone to do anything..
I respect peoples personal choices and opinions

I merely suggest

I throw things out there

:)

hf

Gosh if I told you all the rest of the stuff I believe your nickers would spin..omgiggles
 Quoting: wildhoney


I wouldn't say "many" more like less than 1%.
My boxer shorts would not spin, im sure I have heard worse.
But do you think it might be good to talk to someone you know like a Doctor or something?
Because you kind of sound like one of those galactic federation of light people after snorting bath salts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17500460


When someone has something valid to say and one doesnt have arguments to debate the usual old hat method might be:


1.try to mock the person
2.make fun of them
3.try to discredit them and show them in a negative light
4.portray them as insane or similar
 Quoting: wildhoney



Those four things are all examples of what's called "ad hominem" - attacking the arguer, rather than the argument.

But you're derailing your own thread! xx
 Quoting: Ardhanarishvara


I suppose I am..

Thank for the heads up
hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
Ardhanarishvara

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I also replied to the topic, but you might've missed it due to mr argument xx
:sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever.

Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you.

Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie:
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It really depends what kind of meals you're used to.

If you eat a lot of pasta, noodles, pies, soups, stews and such, rather than traditional "meat + 2 veg", it's really easy;

buy quorn :D it comes in chunks, is cheap, loaded with protein, gives the same texture as meat (which, really, is all that's missing when you stop eating meat, right?) and works in all of the above dishes!




You can also get non-meat steaks / fillets, but these sometimes are not as satisfying xx
 Quoting: Ardhanarishvara


yes I did miss it..
Thanks for your input..

I think..like I said ...there are va few out there that want to change to a non meat diet but just havent figured out how..so any advise can help

hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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06/11/2012 07:32 AM
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Your advice and comments appreciated if it can help anyone take the move towards a non meat based diet

Much thanks
hugs
 Quoting: wildhoney


A serving size of meat is 3-4oz. Tell that to the guy who orders a 8-16 steak for every meal after having a 3 egg omlet for breakfast and a turkey sub for lunch.

I use to over eat the meat. I had to switch to a veggy/vegan diet just to get myself right.

I do however eat meat now, but rarely.

I don't eat beef, because once you get off eating beef you feel sick when you try to eat it.
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"the reason why research on telepathy and dogs is taboo is for two reasons:

there is a taboo against telepathy and physic phenomenon because the dominant dogma is the mind is nothing but the brain and mental activity is brain activity therefore it is all inside the head therefore intentions should not have any effect at a distance so telepathy should not happen.

the other dogma is you should not take pets seriously and the reason for that is that the official view is that animals are nothing but machines therefore factory farming is perfectly fine and it is fine to grow chickens in tiny cages and treat them as cogs in a production line
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"but when it comes to pets of course we have a very different relationship , we give pets names we mourn them when they die we spend a lot of money on veterinary care, we really care for them and have a personal relationship with them.

now that should not happen if they are just machines so the taboo operates by keeping pets in completely separate compartment because if people thought of all animals like that then they would become vegetarians or possible even animal rights activists

so the taboo is designed to keep a sharp split between pets which are part of the private realm and the machine theory of life which operates in the public realm"


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It really depends what kind of meals you're used to.

If you eat a lot of pasta, noodles, pies, soups, stews and such, rather than traditional "meat + 2 veg", it's really easy;

buy quorn :D it comes in chunks, is cheap, loaded with protein, gives the same texture as meat (which, really, is all that's missing when you stop eating meat, right?) and works in all of the above dishes!




You can also get non-meat steaks / fillets, but these sometimes are not as satisfying xx
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yes I did miss it..
Thanks for your input..

I think..like I said ...there are va few out there that want to change to a non meat diet but just havent figured out how..so any advise can help

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:) just trying to show that you can basically keep the same diet and just have something other than meat that provides that same variation in texture.

I've gone on and off veggie and vegan diets a few times, and i found that to start with what was missing really was that chewy texture, since all vegetables have quite similar textures.

I think that a lot of the time a dislike for veggie diets comes from an inability to cook well - if they can't just roast it it's too much!

Here's an example of a veggie / vegan dish you wouldn't even notice doesn't have meat in:

[link to www.bbcgoodfood.com]
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Here is my question to vegetarians. I AM what you may consider an athlete who exercises vigorously, regularly and I AM also an avid researcher and historian that uses a lot of brain power daily. Therefor, how can someone like me get enough protein for his body muscles and brain to be able to function at the top of my game?

I feel that without all my egg and meat based protein diet, that I would be a hungry, lethargic lil wimp who couldn't think his way out of a wet paper aj is a shill sack, let alone break through the matrix like I have and Just FYI, I eat lots of fruits and vegetables as well.

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Here is my question to vegetarians. I AM what you may consider an athlete who exercises vigorously, regularly and I AM also an avid researcher and historian that uses a lot of brain power daily. Therefor, how can someone like me get enough protein for his body muscles and brain to be able to function at the top of my game?

I feel that without all my egg and meat based protein diet, that I would be a hungry, lethargic lil wimp who couldn't think his way out of a wet paper sack, let alone break through it. Just FYI, I eat lots of fruits and vegetables as well.
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Quorn, vegetables, and, as an athlete i imagine you're already on the protein shakes, and if you're not you should be! x

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Here is my question to vegetarians. I AM what you may consider an athlete who exercises vigorously, regularly and I AM also an avid researcher and historian that uses a lot of brain power daily. Therefor, how can someone like me get enough protein for his body muscles and brain to be able to function at the top of my game?

I feel that without all my egg and meat based protein diet, that I would be a hungry, lethargic lil wimp who couldn't think his way out of a wet paper sack, let alone break through it. Just FYI, I eat lots of fruits and vegetables as well.
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Here is a link (to a PDF article) that is quite interesting. The site that it originates from is called WAI and is world reknowned for outlining a basic diet that clears up any acne problem in two weeks. It incidently also cleared up diabete I, diabetes II, and most other degenerative deseases. Check out also the forum for some interesting discussion threads about food and diet.



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show me a heavy meat eater , and i will show you a dull witted knumb skull , meat lowers the bodies vibrational feild , and clogs the intestines , dirty colon = disease and early death
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Here is my question to vegetarians. I AM what you may consider an athlete who exercises vigorously, regularly and I AM also an avid researcher and historian that uses a lot of brain power daily. Therefor, how can someone like me get enough protein for his body muscles and brain to be able to function at the top of my game?

I feel that without all my egg and meat based protein diet, that I would be a hungry, lethargic lil wimp who couldn't think his way out of a wet paper sack, let alone break through it. Just FYI, I eat lots of fruits and vegetables as well.
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Quorn, vegetables, and, as an athlete i imagine you're already on the protein shakes, and if you're not you should be! x
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quorn isn't a real food

it is genetically engineered fungus

and soy should be avoided unless it is fermented --most meat replacement is soy

avoid TVP as it is soy

quinoa has protein but not nearly enough

a vegan diet is not healthy at all

a vegetarian diet can be healthy but you have to work at it quite a bit

and protein is an issue