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Breaking!!!!SCOTUS refuses to hear another "birther" case!!! Will you Vattel people NOW admit that you are wrong?

 
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Hey, how about you actually respond to the posts with evidence instead of the ones with just text?

Fucking shill.
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What are better evidences than 1) court rulings, 2) official statements and 3) scanned copies of documents?

1) [link to www.scribd.com]
2) [link to hawaii.gov]
3) [link to www.adrienneshouse.com]

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better evidence is:

look at honorable decisions of the US supreme court prior to 1912, and some for a short period afterward as compared to today.

look at evil perpetrated by US governemtn and central banks over past 100 years.

look at all the evidence of government lies and corruption of the US court system. it's there, if you seek diligently.

if you want to ignore it, you may also do that. most do, or don't bother to dig deeply or just don't have the ability to see through the lies.
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title says another, not "any more". Therefore, not a hoax.
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why is this hoax pinned??
The topic title is a lie.

Where in the article does the scotus say they won't hear another birther case???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17133954

Article doesn't need to say that; it's a fact that SCOTUS already heard 18 case - needless to say Birthers lost them all.

[link to tesibria.typepad.com]
BIRTHER SCORECARD

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17772998

Where does it say :
"SCOTUS refuses to hear another "birther" case"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17133954

Call the wahaaaaaaaaaaaambulance!!!

WHY THE FUCK SHOULD OP COPY PAST THE ARTICLE IN THE THREAD TITLE???

FYI, the thread's title is substantially correct.

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"FYI, the thread's title is substantially correct."

so what, did they make the decision out of self interest, fear or honor would be a more pertinent question.
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the supremes are owned by the same banksters that own the republi crooks and democ rats
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EXACTLY CORRECT !clappa
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Re: Breaking!!!!SCOTUS refuses to hear another "birther" case!!! Will you Vattel people NOW admit that you are wrong?
Hey, how about you actually respond to the posts with evidence instead of the ones with just text?

Fucking shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1723760

What are better evidences than 1) court rulings, 2) official statements and 3) scanned copies of documents?

1) [link to www.scribd.com]
2) [link to hawaii.gov]
3) [link to www.adrienneshouse.com]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17772998


better evidence is:

look at honorable decisions of the US supreme court prior to 1912, and some for a short period afterward as compared to today.

look at evil perpetrated by US governemtn and central banks over past 100 years.

look at all the evidence of government lies and corruption of the US court system. it's there, if you seek diligently.

if you want to ignore it, you may also do that. most do, or don't bother to dig deeply or just don't have the ability to see through the lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16721256

Do you really expect me to seek for any kind of tidbits that shall somehow support your delusions paradigm about a highly pregnant American woman that went to some remote African village (when such travel would’ve taken few days) only to give a birth and then immediately rushed back home to forge all document, birth announcements and SS numbers so that her child could turn the US president some day????

This narrative is for a get go utterly ridiculous.

Besides, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles?

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

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"FYI, the thread's title is substantially correct."

so what, did they make the decision out of self interest, fear or honor would be a more pertinent question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16721256

Again, either you respect the rule of the law - including the case law (US court rulings) or you don't; make up your choice.

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op's an idiot.
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I'm sorry but that is THE best way to interpret it. If both Parents must be citizens it prevents Illegal immigrants coming over here having a kid and than have ties to the U.S or wherever just because their child happened to be born(illegally I might add) in the host country. I totally agree with it.

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- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

this applies to those who are charged with crimes. the president is expected to have impeccable character, so your point is irrelevant, again.
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I'm sorry but that is THE best way to interpret it. If both Parents must be citizens it prevents Illegal immigrants coming over here having a kid and than have ties to the U.S or wherever just because their child happened to be born(illegally I might add) in the host country. I totally agree with it.
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Your interpretation doesn't matter; US curt rollings do:

Obama’s legibility has been clearly established by the US court rulings; again, read the recent one:

[link to www.scribd.com]

"...Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark (addressing U. S. Const. amend. XIV) ; Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana(addressing the precise issue). Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett does..."

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"FYI, the thread's title is substantially correct."

so what, did they make the decision out of self interest, fear or honor would be a more pertinent question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16721256

Again, either you respect the rule of the law - including the case law (US court rulings) or you don't; make up your choice.

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i know how corrupt the US government and court system is, so I will chose not to respect it until it changes. until then, i can only do the best that i can.

the financial systems, governments and court systems are ruled by money and power. that is a fact that can be proven and is well known by anyone who has looked.
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- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

this applies to those who are charged with crimes. the president is expected to have impeccable character, so your point is irrelevant, again.
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What has this filthy, Rove-like smearing campaign to do with Obama's character? Dirt you keep on throwing against him says way more about your character than his one.

Besides, what this has to do with his legibility???

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"FYI, the thread's title is substantially correct."

so what, did they make the decision out of self interest, fear or honor would be a more pertinent question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16721256

Again, either you respect the rule of the law - including the case law (US court rulings) or you don't; make up your choice.

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i know how corrupt the US government and court system is, so I will chose not to respect it until it changes...
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That tells all about your kind; if the law is not in your favor, you will disrespect it; just like that. You make me wanna puke.

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to close to the election and besides they'll kill obamacare...
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HAHA...Stupid birthers

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to close to the election and besides they'll kill obamacare...
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Before this case there were already 131 court cases and 18 SCOTUS cases - way before elections:

BIRTHER SCORECARD [link to tesibria.typepad.com]

Original Court Decisions:
- Birthers win: 0
- Birthers lose: 131

Appellate Courts:
- Birthers win: 0
- Birthers lose: 55

Supreme Court:
- Birthers win: 0
- Birthers lose: 18

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the supremes are owned by the same banksters that own the republi crooks and democ rats
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EXACTLY CORRECT !clappa
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why is this hoax pinned??
The topic title is a lie.

Where in the article does the scotus say they won't hear another birther case???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17133954

Article doesn't need to say that; it's a fact that SCOTUS already heard 18 case - needless to say Birthers lost them all.

[link to tesibria.typepad.com]
BIRTHER SCORECARD

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17772998

Where does it say :
"SCOTUS refuses to hear another "birther" case"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17133954

Call the wahaaaaaaaaaaaambulance!!!

WHY THE FUCK SHOULD OP COPY PAST THE ARTICLE IN THE THREAD TITLE???

FYI, the thread's title is substantially correct.

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HOAX ...
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I'm sorry but that is THE best way to interpret it. If both Parents must be citizens it prevents Illegal immigrants coming over here having a kid and than have ties to the U.S or wherever just because their child happened to be born(illegally I might add) in the host country. I totally agree with it.
 Quoting: AlmustKnowe

Your interpretation doesn't matter; US curt rollings do:

Obama’s legibility has been clearly established by the US court rulings; again, read the recent one:

[link to www.scribd.com]

"...Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark (addressing U. S. Const. amend. XIV) ; Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana(addressing the precise issue). Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett does..."

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Hey fuck off and read shit before responding ok?
I suffer from Pronoia I have the suspicion the Universe is a conspiracy on my behalf.
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- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

this applies to those who are charged with crimes. the president is expected to have impeccable character, so your point is irrelevant, again.
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What has this filthy, Rove-like smearing campaign to do with Obama's character? Dirt you keep on throwing against him says way more about your character than his one.

Besides, what this has to do with his legibility???

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Rove was/is a fascist megalomaniac so i paid as little attention to him as possible. when Obama was elected, i was happy to see the end of the Bush lies and murders. i was hopeful about Obama, and studied a lot about his background for a year or 2. unfortunately, the evidence showed and my conclusions were that he is hiding something and is not honorable. i spent hundreds of hours and read thousands of pages about the man and his background. you can do the same, just search google, and make your own conclusions.

he is at the very least a liar and deceiver, because when he was a senator, he presented or allowed to be presented as fact that he was a Kenyan by birth.

i don't care whether he is president or not, or whether he is eligible or not, because he has already made his choice for whatever reasons. i only care that people are presented with the truth so that they can make their own decisions.

this is the kind of philosophy that i use, not exclusively, but i believe that we all have the ability to discern truth quite accurately if we so desire.


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Hey Mods!
Why is this hoax pinned?
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to close to the election and besides they'll kill obamacare...
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Before this case there were already 131 court cases and 18 SCOTUS cases - way before elections:

BIRTHER SCORECARD [link to tesibria.typepad.com]

Original Court Decisions:
- Birthers win: 0
- Birthers lose: 131

Appellate Courts:
- Birthers win: 0
- Birthers lose: 55

Supreme Court:
- Birthers win: 0
- Birthers lose: 18

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and weren't all of these cases dismissed on technicalities? not one of them went to a full trial, so all of discovery and evidence that it might have uncovered was prevented from taking place, conveniently for the "government". It just proves what i have said; the US government and court system are bribed or threatened into doing what the plantation owners dictate.
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You know I have received a bombardment of red karma for this thread. But it was worth it to watch you "birthers" squirm, and have to break out old debunked arguments. To back your ridiculous claims.
 Quoting: Frangas non Flectes

You have proven nothing here! There was a DECISION to NOT HEAR the case! NOT A DECISION THAT HE IS US BORN! NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
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Same old shit, no proof.

[link to www.azcentral.com]
 Quoting: Frangas non Flectes


That lame AZ piece has NOTHING to do with the case!!!! SAME SHIT back to you LAMFAO
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You know I have received a bombardment of red karma for this thread. But it was worth it to watch you "birthers" squirm, and have to break out old debunked arguments. To back your ridiculous claims.
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You don't seem to know the difference between a Birth Certificate and a Long Form Certificate of Birth.
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Ken Bennett does.

[link to www.azcentral.com]
 Quoting: Frangas non Flectes


You mean the Ken Bennett thats running for governor, the one who used this to politicize not to actually check?? That Ken? Ya he is one of the problems, he is using this as a political ploy for his run. The one who said he didn't look at the email but he has received proof and it is acceptable, BEFORE even seeing the proof? That Ken??????????????
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why is this hoax pinned??
The topic title is a lie.
Where in the article does the scotus say they won't hear another birther case???

snip:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court has refused to hear an appeal challenging President Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship and his eligibility to serve as commander in chief. Without comment, the high court on Monday refused to hear an appeal from Alan Keyes, Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson

it IS BS that they say there is no standing as usual but this thread is a hoax...
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^^^^^^^^^

THIS
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No, that's the logical fallacy you after-birthers keep trying to make us dance to.

You can't prove a negative. And it is up to the person in question to prove eligibility, not for anyone else to prove ineligibility.
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and he has.....


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 Quoting: Frangas non Flectes


wrong. Mr. Bennett said he has, and in your world, those who support your argument never lie.
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I will guarantee that this man was your personal idol two weeks before this press release. When he was saying he wouldnt let Obama on the ballot.
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No actually we saw that this was a political stunt as he is running for governor!
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Ok, never been a birther... but I have been immersed in scanned/PDF printed documents for 15 years.

The first document released was digitally created... I don't care why, I don't care if it was a receipt, invoice, purchase order, or supposedly someones scanned birth certificate...

IT WAS DIGITALLY CREATED.

Why pass it off as a copy?

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So, then there's a release from the whitehouse website which is supposedly a copy of an actual birth certificate...

again, I don't give a shit WHO'S it is, etc (unlike the Obama haters, I know he doesn't write any legislature, just like Bush who never wrote the patriot acts or presidential signing orders - it was attorneys of cheyney's, lobbyists etc)

To state clearly - I know Obama won't ruin this country because he's an idiot, or half white, or because he smells like sausage - I know that he has absolutely no control or power like every POTUS for 100 years.

WITH THAT SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ......

The posted document at whitehouse .org which is supposed to be his b-certificate:

IS A DIGITALLY CREATED DOCUMENT - NOT A COPY - BUT MADE TO LOOK LIKE A COPY... wuh?

why?


I make digital copies all day long, published 1000's. For 15 years.

I have never seen a copy of Barry's b-certificate.

You idiots can bite me (because you are not even intelligent enough to understand how PDF's work)

Do I care that he and his staff and the DNC and the Media and all his supporters are morans? NO. So are the Red ones.

Puppets owning you all!

Sad.
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"FYI, the thread's title is substantially correct."

so what, did they make the decision out of self interest, fear or honor would be a more pertinent question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16721256

Again, either you respect the rule of the law - including the case law (US court rulings) or you don't; make up your choice.

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i know how corrupt the US government and court system is, so I will chose not to respect it until it changes...
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That tells all about your kind; if the law is not in your favor, you will disrespect it; just like that. You make me wanna puke.

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do you know that the US constitution was written by people who violated and disregarded the then current law because it was loaded against the colonists? don't be like a mosquito that gets crushed while it is sucking someone's blood and forgetds to pay attention to what is behind it.
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"Do you know what intelligence is? It is the capacity, surely, to think freely without fear, without a formula, so that you begin to discover for yourself what is real, what is true; but if you are frightened you will never be intelligent." Krishnamurti

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