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What is worse that a false Christian?

 
wildhoney (OP)

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How often have we met them?

people that present tehmselves as epitome of righteousness

as true Christians..yes..that maybe look down on us?

and then when you know them better you realize its all BS..

and then comes the trial

you feel like saying

Its all BS!

I have been had!

Its all a lie!

and you feellike walking away in the OPPOSITE direction..just to prove a point..and because you are hurt and angry..

and that the trial

are you true and faithful to Him?

or will you let others sway you?

Thats when I personally say neenerto them..cos Christ is above their moratl imperfaction..delusions..lies..deceit and BS..thats when I say ..I love Christ above and before them

That when I confirm my love for Him

and grow stronger in it

and find joy in it

knowing that they will never really know..what it is to share the oneness of Love with Christ..while they remain prisoners of themselves
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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This is precisely why Jesus wants us hot or cold, he said that he'd spew the lukewarms out like vomit.


Many will come to Jesus saying, 'Lord, Lord', and he will say 'cast away from me, you worker of iniquity.'

A real Christian can be determined by his works, as faith without works is dead. One can't simply proclaim to be a follower, and not walk in his ways and teachings. It doesn't work like that....
 Quoting: VRWil 1189609


by his LOVE

His words..we are to be known as His followers by how we LOVE

do unto others as you would have them do to you

love your enemies

etc..etc..etc..

what are works without love?
 Quoting: wildhoney

There is truly nothing without love for love is all there is.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


As St.Paul said

hugs

As Christ taught

and pity them..because they are really lost..pretending they know the way..but the only ones they are fooling is themselves
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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YOU CAN KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT.
true believers have power of the Spirit of YAH.

Paul said, dont believe the devils who use enticing words, he said he taught by word, AND DEMONSTRATIONS OF THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

if the TRUE demonstrations of the power of the Spirit is not there, then, you are dealing with a liar.

Yahushua said the Spirit will come in his name. He said you WILL recieve power after he comes upon you in the name of Yahushua.

TRUE SPIRITUAL POWER IS THE PROOF OF THE SPIRIT.
FALSE POWER IS THE PROOF OF A SPIRIT OF DELUSION.

IT AIN'T ROCKET SCIENCE.

AND YES, HE SAID YOU MUST BE BAPTIZED. HE MADE SURE HIS FOLLOWERS DID BAPTISMS.

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Define false Christians.
 Quoting: ***Evan***

 Quoting: ***Evan***


Ill define it..

empty shells

that externally do all that is required..but inside are dead..

no love..no compassion..no mercy..no feeling

thats why Christ compared them..the then pharisees to sepulcres..outside perfect..outwardly they comply with all, that is required..

but internally..like a sepulcher..they are dead..they hold that which is dead

He is amazing..because of the Love of Christ..I am still a Christian..just because of Him
 Quoting: wildhoney


You're a credit to Christianity that you do have love, compassion, mercy, feelings. However it's not a requirement, right? Because just being saved is all that matters in being a christian they'll say. That's why I'm not one, because that makes no sense, that and also because a mere man/Jesus is not my concept of what God is or should be viewed as.
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Christ is above all

All the so called Christians that litter the way

He is LOVE

We will be tried over and over again..

because that is how the true are tested..with spiritual fire

who do you choose?

Christ..let it be Christ..because He was failthful to you till the end and beyond

He is not the words from anyone..


He is before words were spoken

Last Edited by wildhoney on 06/11/2012 02:15 PM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
Seeker of Truth
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How often have we met them?

people that present tehmselves as epitome of righteousness

as true Christians..yes..that maybe look down on us?

and then when you know them better you realize its all BS..

and then comes the trial

you feel like saying

Its all BS!

I have been had!

Its all a lie!

and you feellike walking away in the OPPOSITE direction..just to prove a point..and because you are hurt and angry..

and that the trial

are you true and faithful to Him?

or will you let others sway you?

Thats when I personally say neenerto them..cos Christ is above their moratl imperfaction..delusions..lies..deceit and BS..thats when I say ..I love Christ above and before them

That when I confirm my love for Him

and grow stronger in it

and find joy in it

knowing that they will never really know..what it is to share the oneness of Love with Christ..while they remain prisoners of themselves
 Quoting: wildhoney

We all meet them. I've learned to not let it bother me as it is a waste of my life and would rather acknowledge them with love and be on my way. They'll eventually learn and it isn't my place to teach them unless they request help. usually don't have to as they see me live my life rightly and it eventually wears off on them. Love is contagious if given from the heart. It does much more than any words can do.hf

Last Edited by Seeker of Truth on 06/11/2012 02:17 PM
'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' - Dr. Seuss
'love has no opposite as it is the divine solvent that ends duality.' - m'Lord
'Be the love that you are' -m'Lord
The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you create during your life.- mine
Yes, the things that others think, say, or do will sometimes hurt you— until they do
not anymore.What will get you from here to there most quickly is total honesty—
being willing to assert, acknowledge, and declare exactly how you feel about a thing.
Say your truth—kindly, but fully and completely. Live your truth, gently, but totally
and consistently. Change your truth easily and quickly when your experience brings
you new clarity.-God

[link to www.youtube.com]
wildhoney (OP)

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Define false Christians.
 Quoting: ***Evan***

 Quoting: ***Evan***


Ill define it..

empty shells

that externally do all that is required..but inside are dead..

no love..no compassion..no mercy..no feeling

thats why Christ compared them..the then pharisees to sepulcres..outside perfect..outwardly they comply with all, that is required..

but internally..like a sepulcher..they are dead..they hold that which is dead

He is amazing..because of the Love of Christ..I am still a Christian..just because of Him
 Quoting: wildhoney


You're a credit to Christianity that you do have love, compassion, mercy, feelings. However it's not a requirement, right? Because just being saved is all that matters in being a christian they'll say. That's why I'm not one, because that makes no sense, that and also because a mere man/Jesus is not my concept of what God is or should be viewed as.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911


Im no credit to anything..I battlemy ego every day

But Christ is my strength

Christ is His words and teachings..His life..His Death and Resurrection

he is not the spokespeople who presume to speak for Him

he is not those that stand on pedestals while they look down on others

He is among the lowest and least of everyone..

He is Love
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
wildhoney (OP)

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Re: What is worse that a false Christian?
How often have we met them?

people that present tehmselves as epitome of righteousness

as true Christians..yes..that maybe look down on us?

and then when you know them better you realize its all BS..

and then comes the trial

you feel like saying

Its all BS!

I have been had!

Its all a lie!

and you feellike walking away in the OPPOSITE direction..just to prove a point..and because you are hurt and angry..

and that the trial

are you true and faithful to Him?

or will you let others sway you?

Thats when I personally say neenerto them..cos Christ is above their moratl imperfaction..delusions..lies..deceit and BS..thats when I say ..I love Christ above and before them

That when I confirm my love for Him

and grow stronger in it

and find joy in it

knowing that they will never really know..what it is to share the oneness of Love with Christ..while they remain prisoners of themselves
 Quoting: wildhoney

We all meet them. I've learned to not let it bother me as it is a waste of my life and would rather acknowledge them with love and be on my way. They'll eventually learn and it isn't my place to teach them unless they request help. usually don't have to as they see me live my life rightly and it eventually wears off on them. Love is contagious if given from the heart. It does much more than any words can do.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


It can rock you to the very foundations..if you dont have spiritual strength..when you meet one of them..it can shatter vall you believe in..because where you expected love and kindness you find lies ..deceit..selfishnessetc..

it can shake your faith

and lead you astray

because you feel

becqause you are deeply hurt

thats where one must learn to hold on to Christ

to hold His hand

because He is what is permanent
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
Seeker of Truth
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How often have we met them?

people that present tehmselves as epitome of righteousness

as true Christians..yes..that maybe look down on us?

and then when you know them better you realize its all BS..

and then comes the trial

you feel like saying

Its all BS!

I have been had!

Its all a lie!

and you feellike walking away in the OPPOSITE direction..just to prove a point..and because you are hurt and angry..

and that the trial

are you true and faithful to Him?

or will you let others sway you?

Thats when I personally say neenerto them..cos Christ is above their moratl imperfaction..delusions..lies..deceit and BS..thats when I say ..I love Christ above and before them

That when I confirm my love for Him

and grow stronger in it

and find joy in it

knowing that they will never really know..what it is to share the oneness of Love with Christ..while they remain prisoners of themselves
 Quoting: wildhoney

We all meet them. I've learned to not let it bother me as it is a waste of my life and would rather acknowledge them with love and be on my way. They'll eventually learn and it isn't my place to teach them unless they request help. usually don't have to as they see me live my life rightly and it eventually wears off on them. Love is contagious if given from the heart. It does much more than any words can do.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


It can rock you to the very foundations..if you dont have spiritual strength..when you meet one of them..it can shatter vall you believe in..because where you expected love and kindness you find lies ..deceit..selfishnessetc..

it can shake your faith

and lead you astray

because you feel

becqause you are deeply hurt

thats where one must learn to hold on to Christ

to hold His hand

because He is what is permanent
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes this is only true though if you let it! it doesn't have to be that way if you don't want it. That is why living in and from the heart is so important as it can't be fooled by others. Only the mind/ego is SUSCEPTIBLE to this.hf
'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' - Dr. Seuss
'love has no opposite as it is the divine solvent that ends duality.' - m'Lord
'Be the love that you are' -m'Lord
The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you create during your life.- mine
Yes, the things that others think, say, or do will sometimes hurt you— until they do
not anymore.What will get you from here to there most quickly is total honesty—
being willing to assert, acknowledge, and declare exactly how you feel about a thing.
Say your truth—kindly, but fully and completely. Live your truth, gently, but totally
and consistently. Change your truth easily and quickly when your experience brings
you new clarity.-God

[link to www.youtube.com]
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How often have we met them?

people that present tehmselves as epitome of righteousness

as true Christians..yes..that maybe look down on us?

and then when you know them better you realize its all BS..

and then comes the trial

you feel like saying

Its all BS!

I have been had!

Its all a lie!

and you feellike walking away in the OPPOSITE direction..just to prove a point..and because you are hurt and angry..

and that the trial

are you true and faithful to Him?

or will you let others sway you?

Thats when I personally say neenerto them..cos Christ is above their moratl imperfaction..delusions..lies..deceit and BS..thats when I say ..I love Christ above and before them

That when I confirm my love for Him

and grow stronger in it

and find joy in it

knowing that they will never really know..what it is to share the oneness of Love with Christ..while they remain prisoners of themselves
 Quoting: wildhoney

We all meet them. I've learned to not let it bother me as it is a waste of my life and would rather acknowledge them with love and be on my way. They'll eventually learn and it isn't my place to teach them unless they request help. usually don't have to as they see me live my life rightly and it eventually wears off on them. Love is contagious if given from the heart. It does much more than any words can do.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


It can rock you to the very foundations..if you dont have spiritual strength..when you meet one of them..it can shatter vall you believe in..because where you expected love and kindness you find lies ..deceit..selfishnessetc..

it can shake your faith

and lead you astray

because you feel

becqause you are deeply hurt

thats where one must learn to hold on to Christ

to hold His hand

because He is what is permanent
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes this is only true though if you let it! it doesn't have to be that way if you don't want it. That is why living in and from the heart is so important as it can't be fooled by others. Only the mind/ego is SUSCEPTIBLE to this.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


True..but many people that seek in Christianity solace is because they are tender..because they feel..because independently of how they live and behave..they are light

dimmed maybe..suffering maybe..but light

so they go to Christianity to search for more light..to feel enveloped against the harshness of this fallen world that hurts them because they are light and sensitive..

and when they sometimes eventually find the opposite..where they were expecting to find light and love..because of their sensitive mnature..it can ruin them spiritually and lead them in the total opposite direction..I think
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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also...Moste importantly, don't allow them to define who you are or what you feel for you know who you are at heart and that is all that really matters now and in the end when it is weighed.hf
'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' - Dr. Seuss
'love has no opposite as it is the divine solvent that ends duality.' - m'Lord
'Be the love that you are' -m'Lord
The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you create during your life.- mine
Yes, the things that others think, say, or do will sometimes hurt you— until they do
not anymore.What will get you from here to there most quickly is total honesty—
being willing to assert, acknowledge, and declare exactly how you feel about a thing.
Say your truth—kindly, but fully and completely. Live your truth, gently, but totally
and consistently. Change your truth easily and quickly when your experience brings
you new clarity.-God

[link to www.youtube.com]
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The best way to conquer ego is to not allow your mind to wander.

Remember this: if mind wanders, you're headed for disappointment.

Always catch yourself and prevent your mind from wandering. When you do, worship God and appreciate the NOW.
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9teen Rubbish. Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
 Quoting: Judethz


Hurray God is a zionist..who would have thunk


we must be someones comedy channel

 Quoting: wildhoney


blinker Zion is mentioned 153 times in the KJV bible...And you think it's a joke!

Psa 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.
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9teen Rubbish. Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
 Quoting: Judethz


Hurray God is a zionist..who would have thunk


we must be someones comedy channel

 Quoting: wildhoney


blinker Zion is mentioned 153 times in the KJV bible...And you think it's a joke!

Psa 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.
 Quoting: Judethz


I think most things are a joke..

In fact I wonder about all this..seems the basic rule is to have a very good sense of humor
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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We all meet them. I've learned to not let it bother me as it is a waste of my life and would rather acknowledge them with love and be on my way. They'll eventually learn and it isn't my place to teach them unless they request help. usually don't have to as they see me live my life rightly and it eventually wears off on them. Love is contagious if given from the heart. It does much more than any words can do.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


It can rock you to the very foundations..if you dont have spiritual strength..when you meet one of them..it can shatter vall you believe in..because where you expected love and kindness you find lies ..deceit..selfishnessetc..

it can shake your faith

and lead you astray

because you feel

becqause you are deeply hurt

thats where one must learn to hold on to Christ

to hold His hand

because He is what is permanent
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes this is only true though if you let it! it doesn't have to be that way if you don't want it. That is why living in and from the heart is so important as it can't be fooled by others. Only the mind/ego is SUSCEPTIBLE to this.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


True..but many people that seek in Christianity solace is because they are tender..because they feel..because independently of how they live and behave..they are light

dimmed maybe..suffering maybe..but light

so they go to Christianity to search for more light..to feel enveloped against the harshness of this fallen world that hurts them because they are light and sensitive..

and when they sometimes eventually find the opposite..where they were expecting to find light and love..because of their sensitive mnature..it can ruin them spiritually and lead them in the total opposite direction..I think
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes this is possible and a shame sometimes to the underserving but if it was meant to be that way it is for the best is it not? Maybe God needs them to see it for themselves.hf
'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' - Dr. Seuss
'love has no opposite as it is the divine solvent that ends duality.' - m'Lord
'Be the love that you are' -m'Lord
The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you create during your life.- mine
Yes, the things that others think, say, or do will sometimes hurt you— until they do
not anymore.What will get you from here to there most quickly is total honesty—
being willing to assert, acknowledge, and declare exactly how you feel about a thing.
Say your truth—kindly, but fully and completely. Live your truth, gently, but totally
and consistently. Change your truth easily and quickly when your experience brings
you new clarity.-God

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9teen Rubbish. Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
 Quoting: Judethz


Hurray God is a zionist..who would have thunk


we must be someones comedy channel

 Quoting: wildhoney


blinker Zion is mentioned 153 times in the KJV bible...And you think it's a joke!

Psa 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.
 Quoting: Judethz


I think most things are a joke..

In fact I wonder about all this..seems the basic rule is to have a very good sense of humor
 Quoting: wildhoney

Good rule as it helps one live life.hf
'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' - Dr. Seuss
'love has no opposite as it is the divine solvent that ends duality.' - m'Lord
'Be the love that you are' -m'Lord
The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you create during your life.- mine
Yes, the things that others think, say, or do will sometimes hurt you— until they do
not anymore.What will get you from here to there most quickly is total honesty—
being willing to assert, acknowledge, and declare exactly how you feel about a thing.
Say your truth—kindly, but fully and completely. Live your truth, gently, but totally
and consistently. Change your truth easily and quickly when your experience brings
you new clarity.-God

[link to www.youtube.com]
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It can rock you to the very foundations..if you dont have spiritual strength..when you meet one of them..it can shatter vall you believe in..because where you expected love and kindness you find lies ..deceit..selfishnessetc..

it can shake your faith

and lead you astray

because you feel

becqause you are deeply hurt

thats where one must learn to hold on to Christ

to hold His hand

because He is what is permanent
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes this is only true though if you let it! it doesn't have to be that way if you don't want it. That is why living in and from the heart is so important as it can't be fooled by others. Only the mind/ego is SUSCEPTIBLE to this.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


True..but many people that seek in Christianity solace is because they are tender..because they feel..because independently of how they live and behave..they are light

dimmed maybe..suffering maybe..but light

so they go to Christianity to search for more light..to feel enveloped against the harshness of this fallen world that hurts them because they are light and sensitive..

and when they sometimes eventually find the opposite..where they were expecting to find light and love..because of their sensitive mnature..it can ruin them spiritually and lead them in the total opposite direction..I think
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes this is possible and a shame sometimes to the underserving but if it was meant to be that way it is for the best is it not? Maybe God needs them to see it for themselves.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Its a test..

Will you crumble? or will you hold on to Him?

Thats what we must aks eachother when we are tried

I have personally met many such Christians-

from my earlt teens

Its a miracle..literally I am still a Christian

you know why?

because the few that are real are really echt..

but more than that

because of Him
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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Hurray God is a zionist..who would have thunk


we must be someones comedy channel

 Quoting: wildhoney


blinker Zion is mentioned 153 times in the KJV bible...And you think it's a joke!

Psa 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.
 Quoting: Judethz


I think most things are a joke..

In fact I wonder about all this..seems the basic rule is to have a very good sense of humor
 Quoting: wildhoney

Good rule as it helps one live life.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


lol..true dat..
omgiggles
hilarious..lol

Last Edited by wildhoney on 06/11/2012 02:41 PM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Yes this is only true though if you let it! it doesn't have to be that way if you don't want it. That is why living in and from the heart is so important as it can't be fooled by others. Only the mind/ego is SUSCEPTIBLE to this.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


True..but many people that seek in Christianity solace is because they are tender..because they feel..because independently of how they live and behave..they are light

dimmed maybe..suffering maybe..but light

so they go to Christianity to search for more light..to feel enveloped against the harshness of this fallen world that hurts them because they are light and sensitive..

and when they sometimes eventually find the opposite..where they were expecting to find light and love..because of their sensitive mnature..it can ruin them spiritually and lead them in the total opposite direction..I think
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes this is possible and a shame sometimes to the underserving but if it was meant to be that way it is for the best is it not? Maybe God needs them to see it for themselves.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Its a test..

Will you crumble? or will you hold on to Him?

Thats what we must aks eachother when we are tried

I have personally met many such Christians-

from my earlt teens

Its a miracle..literally I am still a Christian

you know why?

because the few that are real are really echt..

but more than that

because of Him
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes a hard test, for so many fail it but that too is ok as it is as it was meant to be otherwise they wouldn't fail.hf
'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' - Dr. Seuss
'love has no opposite as it is the divine solvent that ends duality.' - m'Lord
'Be the love that you are' -m'Lord
The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you create during your life.- mine
Yes, the things that others think, say, or do will sometimes hurt you— until they do
not anymore.What will get you from here to there most quickly is total honesty—
being willing to assert, acknowledge, and declare exactly how you feel about a thing.
Say your truth—kindly, but fully and completely. Live your truth, gently, but totally
and consistently. Change your truth easily and quickly when your experience brings
you new clarity.-God

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Some stuff you just couldnt make up.

lol

straight faced an all

come on

hilarious

oh man

seriously

time we all get real here

we are supposed to believe some absolutely ridiculous garbage

in my most honest opinion
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Pokemon?
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True..but many people that seek in Christianity solace is because they are tender..because they feel..because independently of how they live and behave..they are light

dimmed maybe..suffering maybe..but light

so they go to Christianity to search for more light..to feel enveloped against the harshness of this fallen world that hurts them because they are light and sensitive..

and when they sometimes eventually find the opposite..where they were expecting to find light and love..because of their sensitive mnature..it can ruin them spiritually and lead them in the total opposite direction..I think
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes this is possible and a shame sometimes to the underserving but if it was meant to be that way it is for the best is it not? Maybe God needs them to see it for themselves.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Its a test..

Will you crumble? or will you hold on to Him?

Thats what we must aks eachother when we are tried

I have personally met many such Christians-

from my earlt teens

Its a miracle..literally I am still a Christian

you know why?

because the few that are real are really echt..

but more than that

because of Him
 Quoting: wildhoney

Yes a hard test, for so many fail it but that too is ok as it is as it was meant to be otherwise they wouldn't fail.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


I agree

But I think ultimately the bottom line is

You (generally speaking) think you are worthy of representing Christ in any way? of being of His flock in any way?

then live it

otherwise go open a hamburger stall or something...

and give everyone including yourself a break
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Some stuff you just couldnt make up.

lol

straight faced an all

come on

hilarious

oh man

seriously

time we all get real here

we are supposed to believe some absolutely ridiculous garbage
in my most honest opinion
 Quoting: wildhoney

No, we were designed to believe our hearts but too many are sidetracked by the mind/ego and lose the battle.hf
'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.' - Dr. Seuss
'love has no opposite as it is the divine solvent that ends duality.' - m'Lord
'Be the love that you are' -m'Lord
The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you create during your life.- mine
Yes, the things that others think, say, or do will sometimes hurt you— until they do
not anymore.What will get you from here to there most quickly is total honesty—
being willing to assert, acknowledge, and declare exactly how you feel about a thing.
Say your truth—kindly, but fully and completely. Live your truth, gently, but totally
and consistently. Change your truth easily and quickly when your experience brings
you new clarity.-God

[link to www.youtube.com]
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The best way to conquer ego is to not allow your mind to wander.

Remember this: if mind wanders, you're headed for disappointment.

Always catch yourself and prevent your mind from wandering. When you do, worship God and appreciate the NOW.
 Quoting: Petrus


The wandering mind is an obstacle..I totally agree

hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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the only thing worse than a false christian is a christian
i get on this site... way too much
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the only thing worse than a false christian is a christian
 Quoting: Supa


A true Christian is imo a drop of the ocean of paradise
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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It hurts profoundly when one meets the falseness

When was Christ angry? when He met the sinners?

nope

He through Love tried to help them mend their ways

he was furious when He met the religious hypoocrites..the pharisees the ones that used the temple to make profit and sacrificed animals etc..

why?

BECAUSE THAT THAT IS OF THE FATHER SI SACRED!

Last Edited by wildhoney on 06/11/2012 02:54 PM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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How many souls are lost and led astray due to these wolves in sheeps clothings?

I detest them..more than the debunkers
 Quoting: wildhoney


A real christian?
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How many souls are lost and led astray due to these wolves in sheeps clothings?

I detest them..more than the debunkers
 Quoting: wildhoney


A real christian?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1530791


Am I ? I dont know

If a true Christian is measured by how they love Christ ..then my answer has to be yes

but if I am supposed to love the secular world etc..then I fail
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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I am sexual abused by a minister 30 years ago.
And he still preah.

I think there is not much worse.

They will be judged, as we all will be.

Peace.

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