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Fukushima-Daiichi .. "“likely the largest radioactive noble gas release in history”

 
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"This took place between 11 and 15 March 2011..."


So...they are only counting the rads emitted in the first four days?????


What about everything that has been emitted since then?
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^^this^^

wally
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Not a peep.. that I have seen.

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Not a peep.. that I have seen.

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nor i... but have been looking....

ex-sfk used to post the water levels in the basements till they stopped posting the data... probably because it is no longer is relevant as they overflowed many months ago....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”
- Albert Einstein
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Can anyone find an update on the spent fuel pool?
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Not a peep.. that I have seen.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


Check out this thread:
Fukushima-diary down again
Can anyone find an update on the spent fuel pool?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17716968


Not a peep.. that I have seen.

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That's exactly why I am worried oops2
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Thanks for posting WB! hf
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How did you know it was me? Thought I was on the down low..chuckle
Some people think I pick on tepco too much..

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chuckle
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Tepco cam is down.

TBS/JNN cam is full of fog.

Makes me very suspicious indeed.
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Can anyone find an update on the spent fuel pool?
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Not a peep.. that I have seen.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673



All the recent posts on unit 4. And a little more.

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TEPCO resumes cooling of Fukushima fuel pool
The operator of the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant has resumed cooling of a fuel storage pool at the facility. The work had been suspended due to failure of a water cooling pump.

The pump at the Number 4 reactor building pool stopped working on Monday night after becoming burnt. The pool holds 1,535 spent and unused fuel rods, the most at the plant.

Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, used a backup pump, but on Tuesday, it also broke. The firm fixed the pump on Wednesday, and restarted it at around 6 PM.

TEPCO says the pool's temperature at 11 AM on Wednesday was 40 degrees Celsius, up six degrees from a day before. As of 5 PM, the temperature had risen to 42 degrees.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11432405


Reactor4 takes 3 more days to fix-Backup was stopped too
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

Reality in Fukushima 3
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

More deformed kitten around in Tokyo
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

Tellurium132 reached Chigasaki in March 2011-[OVER SCALE]
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


Tepco rejected covering reactor 4 with stone coffin for financial matter
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

[snip]

Mabuchi proposed to cover the 4 aspects of reactor 4 with concrete, which is called sarcophagus in Chernobyl just after 311. However, Tepco rejected it for the financial reason. Also, their pride as engineer stopped them from accepting the fact that they have to do the same thing as Chernobyl.

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...


Criminal act..?

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i'm speechless
they have upped the prices, and are still in control....
 Quoting: citizenperth


Thanks Water Bug and many spirits thank you for all your work on this forum.

I'm glad I checked up on this thread today. It sort of confirms what I figured out after about 3 months passed and they still were not capping things over.

I don't know if an excuse of "we had big egos", and "it would have cost to much" are good enough excuses to relieve them from culpability. Maybe when the biological toll starts to become more apparent to the public (it hasn't yet, much) maybe then some token amends will be made. By that time there may be other similar disasters fuming considering all the other over aging similar GE reactors around the world.

I wonder if they will leave these open wounds to the atmosphere open for the rest of eternity?
while society continues to pave countless square miles with concrete roads and parking lots, etc etc. Concrete and boron is too expense to cap a melt-through nuclear reactor that fumes radioactive material non-stop into the atmosphere and sends it to the US and Canada though. That makes sense.
 Quoting: ehecatl


It floors me. No honor. No compassion. Coldly calculated.

The backup generator voltage mismatch is also appalling.

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wb

Without Emergency Generators, loss of regular electricity feeds means the white hot reactor cores start evaporating all the water immediately and then melting down in hours. The big generators were the wrong voltage for the 600 Volt pump motors.

“The icing on the cake, the General Electric engines require a voltage of 600 volts that the emergency generators were unable to deliver”.




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It is an open joke and a term of extreme contempt that, in Japan, politicians and other professional liars for hire say “Smiling people do not get radiation poisoning.”


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Tepco cam is down.

TBS/JNN cam is full of fog.

Makes me very suspicious indeed.
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Scratch that, Tepco's still up.

Can't see a damn thing around SP4 though.
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Atom-boy the shill bunny just keeps on posting and posting and posting.......
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And you adding nothing with your Posting
and remember i get paid by each Post i do!

@bug,
you and your Life is absolute useless,
in your Head is only the need of a Boost
of your Ego but nothing (much) else!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


Hey, OP, you disgusting little shill, there's some real info about how wonderful Fukishima is:

[link to enenews.com]


You are not ashamed of yourself, are you? Possibly even proud, eh? One word: excrement!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473577


Where is the relationship to Chernobyl?

This are just many Article about F'Shima,
when Chernobyl happened we had one once a Week!!!

You little Donotknow!
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shoe? foot? left? right?

whatmeltthrough

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 06/12/2012 12:49 AM
It's life as we know it, but only just.
My Fukushima Site:
[link to citizenperth.wordpress.com]
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GLP's best Fuku thread: Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links
twitter: @citizenperth
“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”
- Albert Einstein
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From NEI.. nothing on SFP 4.

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Nuclear Energy Institute Report on Japan's Nuclear Reactors, June 11, 2012
[link to www.enewspf.com]

[snip]

Plant Update

For the first time since the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami, Tokyo Electric Power Co. sent workers to inspect the suppression chambers in the basements of Fukushima Daiichi reactors 2 and 3. The crew attempted, without success, to locate the source of radioactive water leaking from the reactor containments. The company had previously inspected the suppression chambers using probes and robots. TEPCO’s long-term plans to remove damaged fuel from the reactors call for the containment vessels to be filled with water, which requires that any leaks be repaired.

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Call me silly...but I don't trust the Tepco cam!
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Can anyone find an update on the spent fuel pool?
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Not a peep.. that I have seen.

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Here is his youtube channel. Posting yesterday.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Not a peep.. that I have seen.

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Here is his youtube channel. Posting yesterday.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2674991


i'm in contact with him bug... email me....

It is now a number of hours since Fukushima Diary website crashed. And, Iori is not responding to msgs sent. This is troubling. Who last saw, physically, or talked to him on the phone, Mochizuki Cheshire Iori?
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Liz Butler-henderson wondering the same that's why I checked here - hope he's ok!
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Pia Christina Jensen me too.
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Tenzing Norgay Any news on lori, just arrived home from work - this is very disturbing ;(
49 minutes ago · Like
Pia Christina Jensen I sent skype request. Star Priscilla said she skyped with him, video, yesterday. May be his computer is defunct now, but, timing with his site being down is worrisome. Time for me to catch some sleep. Hopefully he will check in soon. :)
45 minutes ago · Like · 1
Tenzing Norgay i'll be up late I'll keep checking get some rest - peaceful mediation - lets send him lots of love and protection :)
44 minutes ago · Like · 1
Mimi Mato I have no direct news since 6/8. He was wondering when the blog will crash because its allowed space was 99.9% full. He didn't answer when I asked for more info on the new server. May be he is trying to fix that full time.
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Nick Thabit I will send prayers, positive thoughts
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Last Edited by Citizenperth on 06/12/2012 12:55 AM
It's life as we know it, but only just.
My Fukushima Site:
[link to citizenperth.wordpress.com]
sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie

GLP's best Fuku thread: Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links
twitter: @citizenperth
“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”
- Albert Einstein
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Tepco cam is down.

TBS/JNN cam is full of fog.

Makes me very suspicious indeed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17556612


Scratch that, Tepco's still up.

Can't see a damn thing around SP4 though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17556612


It frustrates me to look at the cams. I always feel like I should be able to see something.. and then I never do.

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Call me silly...but I don't trust the Tepco cam!
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I don't either. Too much funny business going on.

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Mary says:


[link to www.youtube.com]

What you gonna' do with all them rods,all them rods inside them huts!?
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Tepco cam is down.

TBS/JNN cam is full of fog.

Makes me very suspicious indeed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17556612


Scratch that, Tepco's still up.

Can't see a damn thing around SP4 though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17556612


It frustrates me to look at the cams. I always feel like I should be able to see something.. and then I never do.

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I know.


[link to www.youtube.com]
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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[link to db.eurad.uni-koeln.de]
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Caesium 137 worldwide..

[link to db.eurad.uni-koeln.de]
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They can't get anywhere near those spent rods "safely" for atleast 10yrs
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They can't get anywhere near those spent rods "safely" for atleast 10yrs
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Gundersen seems to think they could transfer the rods to a container, then lower them to the ground,
where they can be removed to a safer storage area.
Gotta be a way to do it with the remote crane system they already have.
Tepco is screwing around.



Some.... how, some.... way, spock

pressure must be brought to bear upon them to do something about SFP 4, immediately.

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Check out this thread:
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Can anyone find an update on the spent fuel pool?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17716968


Not a peep.. that I have seen.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


Here is his youtube channel. Posting yesterday.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2674991


i'm in contact with him bug... email me....

It is now a number of hours since Fukushima Diary website crashed. And, Iori is not responding to msgs sent. This is troubling. Who last saw, physically, or talked to him on the phone, Mochizuki Cheshire Iori?
1Like · · Share
Liz Butler-henderson wondering the same that's why I checked here - hope he's ok!
about an hour ago · Like · 1
Pia Christina Jensen me too.
about an hour ago · Like
Tenzing Norgay Any news on lori, just arrived home from work - this is very disturbing ;(
49 minutes ago · Like
Pia Christina Jensen I sent skype request. Star Priscilla said she skyped with him, video, yesterday. May be his computer is defunct now, but, timing with his site being down is worrisome. Time for me to catch some sleep. Hopefully he will check in soon. :)
45 minutes ago · Like · 1
Tenzing Norgay i'll be up late I'll keep checking get some rest - peaceful mediation - lets send him lots of love and protection :)
44 minutes ago · Like · 1
Mimi Mato I have no direct news since 6/8. He was wondering when the blog will crash because its allowed space was 99.9% full. He didn't answer when I asked for more info on the new server. May be he is trying to fix that full time.
40 minutes ago · Like · 1
Nick Thabit I will send prayers, positive thoughts
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Is he ok?

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Great map...powerful information! Thanks for sharing hf

You wouldn't happend to have one for today would you? So I know if it's safe to go to sleep...or if more poison is coming.
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I've been pricing hand held geiger counters, and I will get one soon. for 200 buck, you can get a decent one.
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Mary says:


[link to www.youtube.com]

What you gonna' do with all them rods,all them rods inside them huts!?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


this is an honest-to-God nightmare
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There it is. Bigger than Chernobyl.

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bsflag Radioactive hydrogen gas is about 1/1000000000th as bad as burning graphic fuel rods an exposed core and exploded chunks of Plutonium idiot.
Proves this is being still hyped after all this time by lying Marxist green peace ass hole.
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That's funny, hasn't Atom-Boy been sayin' the exact opposite all along?

When everyone told him how bad it was, he asked us for proof. I knew we'd get it sooner or later, but too late to help.

And here we are now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17556612


You need to read what i am writing and i should
use a "for you to understand/ more simple Language"!

We know about this amounts of noble Gases since Months,
this is nothing new.

We know about the Xenon Gases since ca. 10- 12 Month
and even Arnie Gundershill dedicated one whole Report
for this Problem in that Time-Frame!

Chernobyl never had Time to release Xenon,
do your Homework (what is Xenon and where does it come from) before you try to blame me!
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[1 EBq = 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 Bq (Becquerel)]

16.05 EBq total.


Most of it blown out to sea.. about 80%.
Between the fallout and the radioactive water releases and leaks.. we have a real problem with the food chain in the pacific ocean.

Consider this:


FUKUSHIMA: Pacific Ocean Will Not Dilute Dumped Radioactive Water
According to Previously-Secret 1955 Government Report:
[link to globalresearch.ca]

[snip]

And the Congressional Research Service admitted:

However, there remains the slight potential for a relatively narrow corridor of highly contaminated water leading away from Japan …

***

Transport by ocean currents is much slower, and additional radiation from this source might eventually also be detected in North Pacific waters under U.S. jurisdiction, even months after its release. Regardless of slow ocean transport, the long half-life of radioactive cesium isotopes means that radioactive contaminants could remain a valid concern for
years.


Indeed, nuclear expert Robert Alvarez – senior policy adviser to the Energy Department’s secretary and deputy assistant secretary for national security and the environment from 1993 to 1999 – wrote yesterday:

According to a previously secret 1955 memo from the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission regarding concerns of the British government over contaminated tuna, “dissipation of radioactive fall-out in ocean waters is not a gradual spreading out of the activity from the region with the highest concentration to uncontaminated regions, but that in all probability the process results in scattered pockets and streams of higher radioactive materials in the Pacific. We can speculate that tuna which now show radioactivity from ingested materials [this is in 1955, not today] have been living, in or have passed through, such pockets; or have been feeding on plant and animal life which has been exposed in those areas.”

Because of the huge amounts of radioactive water Tepco is dumping into the Pacific Ocean, and the fact that the current pushes waters from Japan to the West Coast of North America, at least some of these radioactive “streams” or “hot spots” will likely end up impacting the West Coast.

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Now.. who in hell is going to tell california that surfing, swimming and playing in the pacific ocean is hazardous to your health...?

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Great map...powerful information! Thanks for sharing hf

You wouldn't happend to have one for today would you? So I know if it's safe to go to sleep...or if more poison is coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17716968


Most of the heavy shit happened a over year ago. Stay out of the rain and check out RadChik on youtube. She does a great job with projections and information..

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