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Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

 
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I am in love with it too! It feels like having experienced the true meaning of sleep, an enhanced state. No more the "routine" fall asleep/wake up in the morning dull type of thing.

Especially, having a specific goal, as a group, makes into a new adventure, an opening up, rather than shutting down for the night.

I carry this feeling with me throughout the day, kind of part of me still interacting in the dream world, while awake... Hard to describe, it's just a feeling, nothing conscious, but almost like being in both places at once.
 Quoting: Ambra 18166455


I know what you mean about being there all the time.
I find it very easy now to enter the dreamworld at any time and i can say that i feel like i'm there all the time now.
When i want to access it i just change my perspective to "add" the dreamworld to it.

The only time I can't remember anything is when my waking minds falls into deep sleep. This is the only time my brain can't seem to find a translation.

I am not sure what happens during deep sleep. Maybe Chaol can tell us a bit more about why we can't remember and control the experience while in deep sleep mode or if it is really supposed to be controllable while in deep sleep. Hugz
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Hi Everyone.
I'd like to share my success from last night here as well. The experience was very real and exciting but unfortunately still fuzzy in my memories.
I was definitely in a room/space with hundreds of people around. There was music, singing, dancing, laughter.
A man did back flips and front flips past me.
I looked for Chaol and called him. An unusually tall man came to me and smiled, clasped my shoulders in happiness and welcomed me to the space.
I walked around handing out an item to everyone. As I handed a person the item, another would instantly appear in my hand for the next person to take. I handed out many of these items so I am wondering if anyone will mention them.

that is all I remember now.
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...the portal of Sekhmet,
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This.

Sekhmet is a portal. A representation of a portal.

I did some further digging about this icon shaped liked a woman with a lion's head, and there are some indications that she pre-dates the Egyptians. It appears that this symbol is very, very ancient.

I have had so many fabulous experiences using Sekhmet. Has anybody else tried stepping into her and looking out of her eyes? I feel shy to describe what I am seeing when inside of her, because it is so -- out of this world! lol.

Many of your experiences parallel my own. If Chaol will comment on some of the questions you all are asking, then he would also be answering some questions that I have too.

I love reading your stories.
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btw, in some traditions, Sekhmet is known as "the lady of the mountains of the setting sun".
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Also, this is how I got there last night. This may help others reach the destination.

I created a huge room in my mind. I stood at a far end corner in an open arched doorway. The room was massive. One wall was lined with windows overlooking a beautiful scene. The room was high in the air so the view was of clouds and mountains and pure natural beauty. The other walls were lined with arched doorways but since I only needed one doorway to enter, the other doors were not relative to me and they disappeared into solid walls but I still knew the doors existed for other people to enter the room.

In the center of the room was the stone statue of Sekhmet. The floor was stone tiles set in a grid pattern with all lines leading to Sekhmet.

I stayed in the doorway for quite a while to really get my mind in the space. As I was doing this, the room would fluctuate in size. Also the statue would move closer to me depending on where I was focusing my thoughts. I just let this happen freely but still stayed in the doorway.

I did all this while still very much awake but very relaxed. I then stated as my intention that I would slowly walk toward the statue while counting backwards from 10 to 1. When I reach the number 1, I will be standing directly in front of the statue and I will have entered the full dream state.

As I stepped forward and counted, I concentrated on the tiles on the floor and the grid. While counting down and walking, I was aware of others in the room but I did not focus on them. I did not allow them into my experience so they remained irrelevant. When I got to number 1, I reached out and touched Sekhmet. Instantly my focus/mind shifted and I allowed myself to perceive all the people and the party going on around me.

I hope this might help others with their attempts to reach the place. Setting up a backward countdown with intention really helped me.

Good luck!
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Thank you. That is helpful.

A meditation technique that I have used for decades is to count down from 12 to 1, while stepping down a flight of stairs as I count. The steps are of worn, gray flagstone. If I can "see" the steps, then I usually get to where I am going.

Yesterday, I visited the tree and asked the man under the tree, "where are the other beings you mentioned?" He told me to come back tomorrow; that I needed to be "deeper".
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I only clear my dream world from ghosts and other deamons. They try to attack me. But always they fail :) Reason i need to fight them, i need to help dream chars in bad situations, THEY NOT LISTENING FOR ME. I told then dont go there but how you think they listen for me>???
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I know what you mean about being there all the time.
I find it very easy now to enter the dreamworld at any time and i can say that i feel like i'm there all the time now.
When i want to access it i just change my perspective to "add" the dreamworld to it.

The only time I can't remember anything is when my waking minds falls into deep sleep. This is the only time my brain can't seem to find a translation.

I am not sure what happens during deep sleep. Maybe Chaol can tell us a bit more about why we can't remember and control the experience while in deep sleep mode or if it is really supposed to be controllable while in deep sleep. Hugz
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Yes, same for me, during deep sleep. I know I have been "busy" and things happened, but cannot recall the storyline. If I am lucky, just a few glimpses, quick flashes.

I do think it's a translation issue, like you say. Without a proper translation, we can't control/direct the dream. Or at least this is how it feels from the waking viewpoint.

Yesterday, I asked Chaol if it's possible to create a physical Genius symbol for the memory bridge. I would like to know from him, if this would work.
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Hi Everyone.
I'd like to share my success from last night here as well. The experience was very real and exciting but unfortunately still fuzzy in my memories.
I was definitely in a room/space with hundreds of people around. There was music, singing, dancing, laughter.
A man did back flips and front flips past me.
I looked for Chaol and called him. An unusually tall man came to me and smiled, clasped my shoulders in happiness and welcomed me to the space.
I walked around handing out an item to everyone. As I handed a person the item, another would instantly appear in my hand for the next person to take. I handed out many of these items so I am wondering if anyone will mention them.

that is all I remember now.
 Quoting: Ossiel


Someone mentioned doing front flips a few pages back!
You may have tuned in to that. That would be awesome.

When I handed out the Queen of Wands cards, it was exactly as you describe... another one would appear instantly in my hand. Very cool (and practical).

If you handed out cookies... I got one the other night! he he
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The only thing about using the Genius to make a "physical" symbol, is that I think Chaol is leading us to use mental symbols instead. He has warned us that this particular physical world is going away.
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...the portal of Sekhmet,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11595540


This.

Sekhmet is a portal. A representation of a portal.

I did some further digging about this icon shaped liked a woman with a lion's head, and there are some indications that she pre-dates the Egyptians. It appears that this symbol is very, very ancient.

I have had so many fabulous experiences using Sekhmet. Has anybody else tried stepping into her and looking out of her eyes? I feel shy to describe what I am seeing when inside of her, because it is so -- out of this world! lol.

Many of your experiences parallel my own. If Chaol will comment on some of the questions you all are asking, then he would also be answering some questions that I have too.

I love reading your stories.
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Very interesting!
If I succeed, I may try tonight to see through her eyes.

When you say pre-Egyptian, my mind went immediately to Atlantis...
I am intrigued even more.

Yes, she is a portal, and a powerful one!
I am really starting to like Sekhmet, more every day. :)
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The only thing about using the Genius to make a "physical" symbol, is that I think Chaol is leading us to use mental symbols instead. He has warned us that this particular physical world is going away.
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Yes, I understand.
I thought it may help for the time being, having a symbol in both worlds. A physical one could help in the beginning, to create the memory bridge.

Physical symbol for the waking world and mental projected image of the same symbol placed in the dream world...
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I only clear my dream world from ghosts and other deamons. They try to attack me. But always they fail :) Reason i need to fight them, i need to help dream chars in bad situations, THEY NOT LISTENING FOR ME. I told then dont go there but how you think they listen for me>???
 Quoting: Newbie Dreamer


Hi. If you "fight" something, you make it stronger. Giving attention to anything makes it "real" -- that is, it becomes more relevant to your perception.

I know of a lady who is adept in both the dream and waking worlds. She was asked one time to clear an old folks' home of a malevolent energy that was bothering the people living there. I like how she handled it: in the "astral", she found a red-haired woman who was so full of venom and hate that she was terrorizing anybody within her vicinity. The woman that I know encircled the red-haired woman with a golden ring that pinned her arms to her side. If the red-haired woman could "love" for just two minutes, then the ring would fall off.

Maybe you would find this story helpful.
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The only thing about using the Genius to make a "physical" symbol, is that I think Chaol is leading us to use mental symbols instead. He has warned us that this particular physical world is going away.
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Yes, I understand.
I thought it may help for the time being, having a symbol in both worlds. A physical one could help in the beginning, to create the memory bridge.

Physical symbol for the waking world and mental projected image of the same symbol placed in the dream world...
 Quoting: Ambra 18166455


Ah. I see. Good point.
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the main thing i did last night in the room with sekhmet was bring back shamans and native tribe dancers from alaska/canada and also met some amazonians. I brought them back to the room with sekhmet and they played their drums and danced their dance. Besides this I also tried bringing up Ron Paul, which wasn't as strong as the dancers however. there was a tiny bonfire too, idk if anyone else caught that.
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For the last couple of hours, I have been thinking about the movie "Inception". The one with Leo Di Caprio. They use symbols to know whether they are in the dream or in the waking world (I think they called it a "totem", unique to each dreamer).

The first time, I was distracted while watching it. But I feel inspired to watch it again more attentively and focus on the concept, rather than the story. All in all, it's a very interesting movie. Sci-fi thriller.

Has any of you seen it? Chaol, are you familiar with it? If so, is there any truth to the mechanism they use?

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Hi Everyone.
I'd like to share my success from last night here as well. The experience was very real and exciting but unfortunately still fuzzy in my memories.
I was definitely in a room/space with hundreds of people around. There was music, singing, dancing, laughter.
A man did back flips and front flips past me.
I looked for Chaol and called him. An unusually tall man came to me and smiled, clasped my shoulders in happiness and welcomed me to the space.
I walked around handing out an item to everyone. As I handed a person the item, another would instantly appear in my hand for the next person to take. I handed out many of these items so I am wondering if anyone will mention them.

that is all I remember now.
 Quoting: Ossiel


Someone mentioned doing front flips a few pages back!
You may have tuned in to that. That would be awesome.

When I handed out the Queen of Wands cards, it was exactly as you describe... another one would appear instantly in my hand. Very cool (and practical).

If you handed out cookies... I got one the other night! he he
 Quoting: Ambra 18166455


I was doing front flips! PLUS, I met a girl who I asked to draw me something. She drew a heart. I gave her a photograph - I willed the photo to be anything she wanted it to be...
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I was doing front flips! PLUS, I met a girl who I asked to draw me something. She drew a heart. I gave her a photograph - I willed the photo to be anything she wanted it to be...


HERE IS SOMETHING VERY,VERY COOL. I do not really know how to imbed a vid so here's the link. It's a MUST WATCH...

Sekhmet in her temple with full blown orbs.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Sekhmet in her temple with full blown orbs.


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Sekhmet in her temple with full blown orbs.


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OK. So here's the profound question of the day.

Because TIME has absolutely no relationship to this 'experiment'...

Are WE the Orbs that appear in this video? Is this some kind of weird documentation of our own actualization?

I guess anything is possible and, based on this thread, possibility has no limits.

Note: If you click on the actual youtube link the girl who posted the vid comments on the fact that no other temples had orbs. Only this one.
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The only thing I'm getting from you is new age horseshit.

Compost it and the new world will align with the divine, oh yes.
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The only thing I'm getting from you is new age horseshit.

Compost it and the new world will align with the divine, oh yes.
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Thanks for offering such clarity. You're my new leader. Can I worship you?
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The only thing I'm getting from you is new age horseshit.

Compost it and the new world will align with the divine, oh yes.
 Quoting: ParadigmShifter


I bet you didn't get into the dream world yet or else you'd surely know that it is indeed very real and where the horseshit is coming from and it's not from Chaol or anyone posting healthy discussion about it here.

I stress that it's real and you should accept it. Denial won't take you any far and will only get you stuck with not controlling what's happening, i think.

But then again by your attitude i can almost tell you'r one of those religious fanatics, like the priest says god will punish you if you don't believe in him and you shit the hell out of your pants about it, or maybe just a purely cocky atheist which thinks this (current physicality) is the best we can do. Pardon me if I am wrong here.

Just my opinion...Hugz!
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Could just be a deeply misunderstood human. Look at all of that red karma!
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I have been reading this thread and the first thread since the first day of the dream experiment. I participated from day 1 but I wanted to read everything before making a comment. I'm still on page 133 from the first thread. Then on to the other threads. Then Ecsys! *Gasp*

I have SO MANY questions that I know I already know the answer for, so I don't really want to bother anyone with asking. I have received so much clarity from Chaol's messages and others that have been posting. Most of the questions I might have had, have been asked and answered. I still want to hear more! I have started on the Genius and succeeded in creating a symbol (seashells in a little container).

I saw the video with the orbs around Sekhmet and also immediately thought "WOW that could be us!". Who knows eh?

I have one question. I was born deaf in one ear (left). I actually thought everyone was like this too. When I turned 8 or 9 or maybe even later, I noticed someone switching the phone to their other ear! I was stunned! Just thought we had two ears because it looked nicer that way but Anyway, that was a revelation: seeing that someone could switch the phone to their other ear because that concept was ALIEN to me. The question I have is: what is the source of the buzzing/humming I hear in my functioning ear? It definitely isn't electrical appliances (as I initially assumed). Sometimes, its faint but I have noticed it get considerably louder today. Any ideas?

Thanks again everyone (me) for all your (my) help :)
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The only thing I'm getting from you is new age horseshit.

Compost it and the new world will align with the divine, oh yes.
 Quoting: ParadigmShifter


Hi. Looking at some of your previous posts, I can see why you regard yourself as a "Paradigm Shifter". The line about "What America fears most is freedom" is quite stunning.

I would like to say, however, that your ideas seem to follow a mainstream "New Age" flavor. They're not really "fringe".

It would be cool if you would join us with an open mind and see if you cannot expand your ideas into other, truly "new" concepts.
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I have been reading this thread and the first thread since the first day of the dream experiment. I participated from day 1 but I wanted to read everything before making a comment. I'm still on page 133 from the first thread. Then on to the other threads. Then Ecsys! *Gasp*

I have SO MANY questions that I know I already know the answer for, so I don't really want to bother anyone with asking. I have received so much clarity from Chaol's messages and others that have been posting. Most of the questions I might have had, have been asked and answered. I still want to hear more! I have started on the Genius and succeeded in creating a symbol (seashells in a little container).

I saw the video with the orbs around Sekhmet and also immediately thought "WOW that could be us!". Who knows eh?

I have one question. I was born deaf in one ear (left). I actually thought everyone was like this too. When I turned 8 or 9 or maybe even later, I noticed someone switching the phone to their other ear! I was stunned! Just thought we had two ears because it looked nicer that way but Anyway, that was a revelation: seeing that someone could switch the phone to their other ear because that concept was ALIEN to me. The question I have is: what is the source of the buzzing/humming I hear in my functioning ear? It definitely isn't electrical appliances (as I initially assumed). Sometimes, its faint but I have noticed it get considerably louder today. Any ideas?

Thanks again everyone (me) for all your (my) help :)
 Quoting: Nahoti


I'm not a specialist but i would consider going to a doctor just to check if all is ok with your ear.

If all is ok then you can start thinking about other reasons.

That would be how i'd deal with it. Hugz and good luck with your dream travels:)
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I have been reading this thread and the first thread since the first day of the dream experiment. I participated from day 1 but I wanted to read everything before making a comment. I'm still on page 133 from the first thread. Then on to the other threads. Then Ecsys! *Gasp*
 Quoting: Nahoti


So glad you are here!

There is a lot of stuff to cover, isn't there? Please do not hesitate to ask questions even though you think they've already been answered, because it never hurts to hear a fresh response. There is always a little bit more information that we may have missed the first time around.
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Could just be a deeply misunderstood human. Look at all of that red karma!
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did you say that in a hippy accent?
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@1466619 (hugs) Thanks for the suggestion although really, my hearing is perfect in that ear and this has been going on for a long time! Still worth getting it checked out I guess.

Will be getting to know my other reality very well in the next few days, months etc. No rush. There is no time :)


I'm not a specialist but i would consider going to a doctor just to check if all is ok with your ear.

If all is ok then you can start thinking about other reasons.

That would be how i'd deal with it. Hugz and good luck with your dream travels:)
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