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Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

 
Chaol (OP)

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Is this a tie into "The Genius"?
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Not directly.

The Genius makes the less-relative more relative. It is a perceptual tool that allows you to perceive what is all ready there.

So instead of using tools to build a house (making a narrative for the house to logically appear in your perception, consciously using the Genius) we are using our subconscious 'Genius-like' ability to relate two values in perspective.

You could say that this is still use of the Genius but faster execution and result.

We just gave a name to what humans do at all times. It is how we exist (perceive).

In a way I am illustrating how existence works (partially by illustrating how the Genius works and inviting you to try it).

As we already do this subconsciously the only difference is that we have a better understanding of how to direct experience.

Control your dreams, in a way. And control your reality.

They are the same.
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A dying's world of desperation save the humanrace do or die, your assh*** leader's what a joke GREED
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migg, go to the room, stand by Sekhmet with a large sign that says MIGG. I will find you and give you a hug. Then you will know! You cannot miss feeling a hug.
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Please fly the UFO over Texas. I am so tired of being called crazy. This ought to shut up a few people. But try to stay clear of buckshot. There are some hee-haws that are guaranteed to practice target shooting at a big ass UFO.
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I find very hard to focus, but, hey!; I've got all the time don't I? I'll keep trying. Thanks again Chaol!
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May I ask, why do you find it hard to focus?
 Quoting: Chaol


I would like to know!
I feel my mind full of images, ideas, thoughts, I would call it "noise" but I don't if that is correct. I can't keep an image long enough, then I fall asleep.
I would like to express myself better but I can't find the right words in english (sorry, I have to write it in spanish)

Lo que quiero decir es que no logro mantener una idea fija por mucho tiempo. Siento como que mi mente esta llena de imágenes, conceptos, ideas. Me cuesta tener el pensamiento, por ejemplo, de la habitación de Sekhmet y el encuentro con otros seres.
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migg, go to the room, stand by Sekhmet with a large sign that says MIGG. I will find you and give you a hug. Then you will know! You cannot miss feeling a hug.
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Thank you my friend. That is very kind.
It's 2 AM here and i am about to sleep, but before I'm writing this sign that says MIQQ (those are Qs) and I will wait for you, don't be late!
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,Midnight here and I am on my way, M I Q Q.
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I find very hard to focus, but, hey!; I've got all the time don't I? I'll keep trying. Thanks again Chaol!
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May I ask, why do you find it hard to focus?
 Quoting: Chaol


I would like to know!
I feel my mind full of images, ideas, thoughts, I would call it "noise" but I don't if that is correct. I can't keep an image long enough, then I fall asleep.
I would like to express myself better but I can't find the right words in english (sorry, I have to write it in spanish)

Lo que quiero decir es que no logro mantener una idea fija por mucho tiempo. Siento como que mi mente esta llena de imágenes, conceptos, ideas. Me cuesta tener el pensamiento, por ejemplo, de la habitación de Sekhmet y el encuentro con otros seres.
 Quoting: miqq


Espero que esto te sirva de algo. Analiza cada pensamiento que brote de tu mente y alejalo, uno por uno hasta que no quede mas. No te enojes ni te desesperes. Si tienes una creencia religiosa, solicitalo esa deidad superior que te ayude a eliminar ese pensamiento o sentimiento. Es necesario que antes de eliminar algo, lo reconozcas, sepas que es y lo distingas de otro. Individualizandolo, uno a uno, es como eliminas todo ese ruido. Al tiempo, te iras quedando sin pensamientos o emociones que te distraigan. Mientras tanto seguiras ejercitando ese musculo mental, que es la visualizacion. Estoy a tus ordenes.
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Chaol, the information in this thread is all spread out. It's like we have to follow you, you might as well make a twitter or something. Just tell us what to do, how to do it, etc. summarize please... I don't feel like reading another thread potentially going to be 140+ pages.
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What's happening now?
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Chaol, are there any rules that we have to follow while we are experiencing the dream world ?

I mean can we do or experiment whatever we like or are there any rules you would suggest ?

Thanks.
MutantMessiah
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Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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Is this a tie into "The Genius"?
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Not directly.

The Genius makes the less-relative more relative. It is a perceptual tool that allows you to perceive what is all ready there.

So instead of using tools to build a house (making a narrative for the house to logically appear in your perception, consciously using the Genius) we are using our subconscious 'Genius-like' ability to relate two values in perspective.

You could say that this is still use of the Genius but faster execution and result.

We just gave a name to what humans do at all times. It is how we exist (perceive).

In a way I am illustrating how existence works (partially by illustrating how the Genius works and inviting you to try it).

As we already do this subconsciously the only difference is that we have a better understanding of how to direct experience.

Control your dreams, in a way. And control your reality.

They are the same.
 Quoting: Chaol


Ok, I wasn't off track. I had perceived what you advised as a tie in to "The Genius" for those very reasons. Thank you, again.
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
Chaol (OP)

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I find very hard to focus, but, hey!; I've got all the time don't I? I'll keep trying. Thanks again Chaol!
 Quoting: miqq


May I ask, why do you find it hard to focus?
 Quoting: Chaol


I would like to know!
I feel my mind full of images, ideas, thoughts, I would call it "noise" but I don't if that is correct. I can't keep an image long enough, then I fall asleep.
I would like to express myself better but I can't find the right words in english (sorry, I have to write it in spanish)

Lo que quiero decir es que no logro mantener una idea fija por mucho tiempo. Siento como que mi mente esta llena de imágenes, conceptos, ideas. Me cuesta tener el pensamiento, por ejemplo, de la habitación de Sekhmet y el encuentro con otros seres.
 Quoting: miqq


There is nothing wrong with the noise. It was there already. You are becoming more aware of what is already there at that time.

Have you tried sitting up while doing this? Perhaps do something to keep yourself from falling asleep, like straightening your back and keeping your breathing deep and rhythmic.

Perhaps think only about Sekhmet rather than the room or seeing others. Let other thoughts come as they may. Don't try to shut them out, but continue to focus on Sekhmet as much as you can.

Please let me know if this helps somewhat, then we can go from there.
Chaol (OP)

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Chaol, the information in this thread is all spread out. It's like we have to follow you, you might as well make a twitter or something. Just tell us what to do, how to do it, etc. summarize please... I don't feel like reading another thread potentially going to be 140+ pages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342586


Here's a summary of all 245 pages:

"You perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive"

No need to read anything else, unless you'd like more meaning and depth.
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Chaol, are there any rules that we have to follow while we are experiencing the dream world ?

I mean can we do or experiment whatever we like or are there any rules you would suggest ?

Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466619


No, no rules.

Feel free to create some if you'd like. But it's not necessary.
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In your opinion, what would be the result if we made physical this "giant UFO" for all to see?

Also, do you feel it is better to appear as many small ones in plain view of many others, one large one, one very large one, or ...? For this experiment, size can be decisive when contemplating the validity of it and how connected the two worlds really are.

The date will be July 18 (19th for some). However, I will ask that you choose the place on this Earth that we appear. (Nevermind the time.)

Instructions will be simple and similar to the ones at the start of this thread.

It is a fun experiment. Hopefully, others will also see it that way.

"We come in peace" ;)
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In your opinion, what would be the result if we made physical this "giant UFO" for all to see?

Also, do you feel it is better to appear as many small ones in plain view of many others, one large one, one very large one, or ...? For this experiment, size can be decisive when contemplating the validity of it and how connected the two worlds really are.

The date will be July 18 (19th for some). However, I will ask that you choose the place on this Earth that we appear. (Nevermind the time.)

Instructions will be simple and similar to the ones at the start of this thread.

It is a fun experiment. Hopefully, others will also see it that way.

"We come in peace" ;)
 Quoting: Chaol



Can you make this UFO appear on the east coast? How about New York? Washington D.C.? The Carolinas? Florida? Its up to u

Also please gives us a time, so we know when to be looking.
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In your opinion, what would be the result if we made physical this "giant UFO" for all to see?
 Quoting: Chaol


That would be half of the people thinking : "Wait... no shit! This is the armaggedon!".

The other half split in two. Half go crazy right away and the other half will be in denial at first, and then also go crazy.

Also, do you feel it is better to appear as many small ones in plain view of many others, one large one, one very large one, or ...? For this experiment, size can be decisive when contemplating the validity of it and how connected the two worlds really are.
 Quoting: Chaol


Anything should be amazingly funny, as long as enough people can see it! I would say one large one may match people's expectations a bit more, further increasing the chance of them going crazy. :)

The date will be July 18 (19th for some). However, I will ask that you choose the place on this Earth that we appear. (Nevermind the time.)

Instructions will be simple and similar to the ones at the start of this thread.

It is a fun experiment. Hopefully, others will also see it that way.

"We come in peace" ;)
 Quoting: Chaol

I am looking forward to those instructions, in the meanwhile i will practice with experiencing the dream world more.

Thanks a bunch for the help.

Hugz.
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Big enough to block out the sun would be cool. East coast U.S. is a good idea. Also, London.
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@Chaol
I need your input. I have been doing visualizations andI feel
I am getting better and better at it. But cant comunicate with others. It seems that I focus too much in the place. How do I interact? I know there is people around me, but I tend to erase them... Any thoughts?
Is it ok to be fully awake and still be thinking to be in that big hall? I have been spliting myself in two places, and I dont really mean to do that. It's like being in the sun and at the same time being in the hall.
It just happens. Is it ok?
Is there a reason why you ask me to go to the sun? Please confirm. I need reasurance.
Tnx.
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I have the sun nearly constantly in the background too. The tree I have to work at, but sun is aways half a thought away.
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I think a UFO sighting of this magnitude would inspire people to drop their small-minded self-absorption and to finally look up at their fellows on a global and galactic scale. It would automatically expand our perspective tremendously.

It could usher in an entirely new civilization.
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but sun is aways half a thought away.
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so true...that was inspiring. tks.

i'm very glad to hear that, and looking forward to us exploring the dream world together and learn the most we can about it.

Hugz.
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No need to wait. You could actually experience this while awake. It takes a bit more practice, so I would recommend you first do it while sleeping.

Some would call this experiencing both worlds simultaneously. But really it would then be two (relative) interpretations of an experience.

You would see how your waking world is the dream world.
 Quoting: Chaol


Something is happening about experiencing both worlds.

Sekhmet is always in the back of my waking mind, and I have tried on several occasions to visualize her in the middle of the room/hallway/place I found myself in at the moment, while awake and having to interact with waking world people.

The physical sensation is a very strong swaying pull, a "force", that almost gives me a headache for being split into two worlds at once. I had to stop the process almost immediately, to function here. I want to keep trying, though, as it is a quite interesting sensation.

Would it work to place Sekhmet in an open air enviroment, instead of a room? In my thinking, the room acts as the space/possibility... so I am not sure about open air.

I would like to try while fully awake in my garden, or the beach, in case the migraine is too strong at least I am able to cope with it better, and can lie down if needed.
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In your opinion, what would be the result if we made physical this "giant UFO" for all to see?

Also, do you feel it is better to appear as many small ones in plain view of many others, one large one, one very large one, or ...? For this experiment, size can be decisive when contemplating the validity of it and how connected the two worlds really are.

The date will be July 18 (19th for some). However, I will ask that you choose the place on this Earth that we appear. (Nevermind the time.)

Instructions will be simple and similar to the ones at the start of this thread.

It is a fun experiment. Hopefully, others will also see it that way.

"We come in peace" ;)
 Quoting: Chaol


The result? fear, of course. One very large would be exiting. Place? Above Keops!
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I find very hard to focus, but, hey!; I've got all the time don't I? I'll keep trying. Thanks again Chaol!
 Quoting: miqq


May I ask, why do you find it hard to focus?
 Quoting: Chaol


I would like to know!
I feel my mind full of images, ideas, thoughts, I would call it "noise" but I don't if that is correct. I can't keep an image long enough, then I fall asleep.
I would like to express myself better but I can't find the right words in english (sorry, I have to write it in spanish)

Lo que quiero decir es que no logro mantener una idea fija por mucho tiempo. Siento como que mi mente esta llena de imágenes, conceptos, ideas. Me cuesta tener el pensamiento, por ejemplo, de la habitación de Sekhmet y el encuentro con otros seres.
 Quoting: miqq


Espero que esto te sirva de algo. Analiza cada pensamiento que brote de tu mente y alejalo, uno por uno hasta que no quede mas. No te enojes ni te desesperes. Si tienes una creencia religiosa, solicitalo esa deidad superior que te ayude a eliminar ese pensamiento o sentimiento. Es necesario que antes de eliminar algo, lo reconozcas, sepas que es y lo distingas de otro. Individualizandolo, uno a uno, es como eliminas todo ese ruido. Al tiempo, te iras quedando sin pensamientos o emociones que te distraigan. Mientras tanto seguiras ejercitando ese musculo mental, que es la visualizacion. Estoy a tus ordenes.
 Quoting: Jaguar 18096442


Muchas gracias Jaguar(my son's favourite animal)!
I will try this!
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
Horus-on-the-Horizon reveals itself to you now.

It does this by revealing its true nature, as Horus of the Two Horizons; the rising and setting sun.

For you, the rising sun has been the physicality of your world since the time the Egyptian 'sphinx' appears.

 Quoting: Chaol


For our next location we will explore the secrets of the waking world.

The fire of the dream world, "Sekhmet", has a twin. It is symbolized as the protector of the physical world. You will know it as the Great Sphinx.

The two representations are from an older, forgotten time'space. Much more 'ancient' than Egypt and both important values in physical perspective.

The structure in Egypt is one of several physical structures whose complex represents physicality itself.

It is here that we will meet. Inside of Sekhmet's twin in Egypt.

The main hall of this structure is fairly deep underground and connects with most of the other structures around it. (It's really all one giant structure rather than what you see on the map or in pictures. Much of what is above-ground is a type of power source, however.) The main hall is about 50 feet high and 25 feet wide. The length is a bit difficult to describe (as it transcends the usual physicality) but just imagine that it's about 100 feet long with deeply unfocused light at the end. There are various inscriptions on the wall all the way up, with their original colors intact. Off to the side of this hall is a small room filled with books. There is light everywhere from various points on the walls. (The library may be dark at times, depending on how well you allow yourself to see what is there.)

From now, you can meet me in this place.

To get there, imagine Sekhmet inside of the main hall facing the length of the hall. It may help to imagine that you are Sekhmet. When you are in the hall feel free to walk around.

(I describe it above as it's not the easiest place to get to. You will know you are there by the vividness of the experience.)

We discuss the books on the shelves and the inscriptions on the walls. (You will be able to read most of the books, and the inscriptions are accessed by the sound of your thoughts. It is up to you to figure out how to reaching the higher ones.)

There is a lot of knowledge here and understanding to be had. There is also a replica of the timeline of modern civilization (that is in what you call the Great Pyramid) that extends from a few thousand years in past to several hundred years in future. There is also a type of city with lagoons and other interesting features accessible from these chambers that we may explore at an other time (however, you are welcome to find it yourself if you're enterprising).

We can meet there frequently, as you may need to revisit multiple times. Unfortunately you may not be able to do much unless I am there to 'hold the door open' for you (for this particular experience), but I will try to extend myself to everyone's perspective.

If we meet together it would be in the library. I'm not sure that we can experience others in the main hall but it may be possible. Strange things happen in the main hall. (Though danger is irrelevant to all.)

If you will, tell us here about what new understanding or experience you have had inside of 'the great sphinx'. (Note that I do not retell the name here, as it has great power in the physical world. But you are free to make up your own name for it.)
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Can you make this UFO appear on the east coast? How about New York? Washington D.C.? The Carolinas? Florida? Its up to u

Also please gives us a time, so we know when to be looking.
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I will help you to do it. The purpose of these threads is to show you how your physicality works and what is happening to it.

If I did all the work what fun would that be :)

The time does not matter. It will 'fix itself' so to speak. The day is July 18 (19 for some).

So where do you think would be most effective?
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Big enough to block out the sun would be cool. East coast U.S. is a good idea. Also, London.
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If it blocks out the sun would not it be thought to be a bad sign?

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