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Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

 
Unit3

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however, the only way to successfully create a future reality for yourself is if you can mentally create a clear path that makes logical sense in your personal life experience. you cannot simply wish yourself to go to another planet, but you CAN focus your energy on getting an A on this next test, which will get you that scholarship, which will get you the job you want, etc....

its all about staying focused and letting the beings from the dream world be able to use their tools to manifest this reality for us. the more you doubt yourself, and put yourself down, the more alternate reality choices you create, which create a smaller probability function for the collapsed reality function. its actually in the quantum mechanical equations about super position and being able to entangle particles from infinite distances, and the fact that a particle cannot have its location determined unless it is observed, until it is observed by a human brain, the particle exists in infinite probabilities at once.
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BeYoutiFull! Said it all in 2 paragraphs.

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Well, I don't know about your experiences but what I find interesting is a major team in football or basketball etc...always has a better winning % at home games?

The home fans can effect a game by noise etc..but I believe there's more to it.

The home town fans Will their team to victory and Will the other team mistakes, this is on a macro-level of course.

If you teach a child to Will success in their life, tell them to be specific on time-lines and in an area they truely want to work at. Visualization on timeline & event/s. Sit back and watch the pieces fall into place...and right on schedule.
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This can't be real life:)


fish I must be dreaming
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Yes.

But we have not developed new symbols to represent the new experience.

We are in a new world already, but interpreting it through an old and familiar lens.

Together, we will begin to do something new.

And you perceive the new world that is before you all ready.
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This is exciting.

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it will be like a zen koan

so when you ask yourself, what it will be like/look like, what symbol associations need to be known,

just slap yourself

that is your answere.
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Big things were accomplished in this thread, its a shame it doesn't get more attention than it does.

Anyone who doubts Chaol only has to read this thread paying attention, no one else came and taught how to do such things, the results speak for themselves, you just have to be willing to lower your guard and experiment a little.
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Big things were accomplished in this thread, its a shame it doesn't get more attention than it does.
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I absolutely agree with you LeKing. This thread introduced me to something that has had great meaning for me. The discoveries continue to pour in.

The symbol of the 'setting sun' is the key that unlocks the dreamworld for you.
 Quoting: Chaol

I don't write about everything I have seen and learned from the exercises in this thread. I want to, but "something" stops me from hitting the submit button.

I think that the significance of some of the things which I have posted have pretty much slipped under the radar, and there may be purpose in that. I dunno.
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I don't write about everything I have seen and learned from the exercises in this thread.
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For example, the symbol of Sekhmet can be correlated to the repeated action of a torus, sucking in from below/radiating outwards from the head, then repeating that action:

[link to www.geom.uiuc.edu]

[link to www.sciencephoto.com]

[link to www.geometrycode.com]

Hasn't a lion always represented a sun?
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Incidentally,

The Earth is going through the same thing that you are going through right now because there is no difference. Feeling giddy? You have just changed what scientists would call the quantum nature of the entire universe in a measurable way.
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[link to www.planetaryexploration.net]
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I don't write about everything I have seen and learned from the exercises in this thread. I want to, but "something" stops me from hitting the submit button.

I think that the significance of some of the things which I have posted have pretty much slipped under the radar, and there may be purpose in that. I dunno.
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Intriguing, my Friend! Care to give examples? I'm paying attention :)
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I don't write about everything I have seen and learned from the exercises in this thread.
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For example, the symbol of Sekhmet can be correlated to the repeated action of a torus, sucking in from below/radiating outwards from the head, then repeating that action:

[link to www.geom.uiuc.edu]

[link to www.sciencephoto.com]

[link to www.geometrycode.com]

Hasn't a lion always represented a sun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


You mean - Sekmet - Lion / Lion - Leo - Sun / Sun - Torus?
Does the sun have a toroid pattern?

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I don't write about everything I have seen and learned from the exercises in this thread. I want to, but "something" stops me from hitting the submit button.
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Intriguing, my Friend! Care to give examples? I'm paying attention :)
 Quoting: Marshwiggle

Well, a case in point was my trying to post a morning's worth of research here on this thread, only to find that GLP was down! Omens!

Does the sun have a toroid pattern?
 Quoting: Marshwiggle

I don't know. Yet. This is something to investigate.



So. Something that occurred to me:

From The Ra Material (page 306 of the ebook version):

The basic pivotal points of each level of development; that is, each density beyond second, may be seen to be as follows: Firstly, the basic energy of so-called red ray. This ray may be understood to be the basic strengthening ray for each density. It shall never be condescended to as less important or productive of spiritual evolution, for it is the foundation ray.

Sekhmet wears a red dress. She is tricked into drinking red beer in order to stop her mad rage which caused rivers of blood to flow. Blood is red. Sekhmet is "Lady of the Setting Sun". The setting sun is red.

So many correspondences between Sekhmet and the color red. Maybe this is even where the "whore" part figures in.

I don't know any more than this right now. I cannot even say that I know it. It is simply something that came to mind this morning.
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I forgot to mention: lava is red, too.

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

[link to hvo.wr.usgs.gov]

[link to www.adams-wallpapers.com]
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I don't write about everything I have seen and learned from the exercises in this thread. I want to, but "something" stops me from hitting the submit button.
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Intriguing, my Friend! Care to give examples? I'm paying attention :)
 Quoting: Marshwiggle

Well, a case in point was my trying to post a morning's worth of research here on this thread, only to find that GLP was down! Omens!

Does the sun have a toroid pattern?
 Quoting: Marshwiggle

I don't know. Yet. This is something to investigate.



So. Something that occurred to me:

From The Ra Material (page 306 of the ebook version):

The basic pivotal points of each level of development; that is, each density beyond second, may be seen to be as follows: Firstly, the basic energy of so-called red ray. This ray may be understood to be the basic strengthening ray for each density. It shall never be condescended to as less important or productive of spiritual evolution, for it is the foundation ray.

Sekhmet wears a red dress. She is tricked into drinking red beer in order to stop her mad rage which caused rivers of blood to flow. Blood is red. Sekhmet is "Lady of the Setting Sun". The setting sun is red.

So many correspondences between Sekhmet and the color red. Maybe this is even where the "whore" part figures in.

I don't know any more than this right now. I cannot even say that I know it. It is simply something that came to mind this morning.
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It is easy to consider the server going down when you're posting as an omen. Same thing happened to me today.

However, isn't that a value in your/my perspective? If so, could we possibly wipe the slate clean for the opportunity to create a new perspective?

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It is easy to consider the server going down when you're posting as an omen. Same thing happened to me today.

However, isn't that a value in your/my perspective? If so, could we possibly wipe the slate clean for the opportunity to create a new perspective?
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Hello, Unit3.

If I understand what you are saying, then I would want to tell you that there is something in me that I trust implicitly. It whispers to me, "turn left" and when I do, I eventually learn that I avoided something unpleasant that occurred to my right.

When my hand is stopped by this quiet something that says, "don't do it", then I don't do it. I have learned that I suffer when I choose to ignore or override the wisdom of whatever it is that guides me. Oftentimes, "it" gets directly in front of me and blocks me from further action, probably because I wasn't paying attention to all of the hints and clues "it" was tossing at me.

I would certainly never want to erase it. It has taken me a lifetime to develop a healthy communication with this "something". It is an important part of my perspective.
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Big things were accomplished in this thread, its a shame it doesn't get more attention than it does.
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I absolutely agree with you LeKing. This thread introduced me to something that has had great meaning for me. The discoveries continue to pour in.

The symbol of the 'setting sun' is the key that unlocks the dreamworld for you.
 Quoting: Chaol

I don't write about everything I have seen and learned from the exercises in this thread. I want to, but "something" stops me from hitting the submit button.

I think that the significance of some of the things which I have posted have pretty much slipped under the radar, and there may be purpose in that. I dunno.
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Maybe that's the way its meant to be, the proof and evidence is here, people just have to accept it. Your 'higher self' is saying no more proof needed perhaps? :)
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Proof? Proof of what?

Explaining this to you with all candor, after a month or two of experiencing Sekhmet, I began to fall in love with her. I have run across other people on the Internet who love her so much that one person even changed his/her name to "Sekh". Look at all of the statues the Egyptians made of her. Falling in love with Sekhmet seems to be a common theme.

But, she is a symbol. I don't want to hook my star to a symbol. I want to keep some detachment, rather than be led by the nose by something that I do not understand. So, I began to look deeper, seeking the essence of this "key".

Like Chaol has told us, there are symbols on top of symbols on top of symbols. He has told us that we can never see anything directly, but only by its relationship to the space around it. It is the relationships that I hope to uncover during discussion in this thread. I am interested in what other people see in the space surrounding Sekhmet, the Great Hall, the tree.

But, I hesitate to share when others are not sharing. I would like to see from other's insights where I am flat-out wrong, or where I am onto something meaningful.

My discoveries convince me that there is a huge cosmic story that reveals itself more and more when practicing the exercises in this thread. There is something there that I dearly want to know.
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Proof? Proof of what?

Explaining this to you with all candor, after a month or two of experiencing Sekhmet, I began to fall in love with her. I have run across other people on the Internet who love her so much that one person even changed his/her name to "Sekh". Look at all of the statues the Egyptians made of her. Falling in love with Sekhmet seems to be a common theme.

But, she is a symbol. I don't want to hook my star to a symbol. I want to keep some detachment, rather than be led by the nose by something that I do not understand. So, I began to look deeper, seeking the essence of this "key".

Like Chaol has told us, there are symbols on top of symbols on top of symbols. He has told us that we can never see anything directly, but only by its relationship to the space around it. It is the relationships that I hope to uncover during discussion in this thread. I am interested in what other people see in the space surrounding Sekhmet, the Great Hall, the tree.

But, I hesitate to share when others are not sharing. I would like to see from other's insights where I am flat-out wrong, or where I am onto something meaningful.

My discoveries convince me that there is a huge cosmic story that reveals itself more and more when practicing the exercises in this thread. There is something there that I dearly want to know.
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Well, don't stop now

you're onto something ;)
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I don't write about everything I have seen and learned from the exercises in this thread.
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For example, the symbol of Sekhmet can be correlated to the repeated action of a torus, sucking in from below/radiating outwards from the head, then repeating that action:

[link to www.geom.uiuc.edu]

[link to www.sciencephoto.com]

[link to www.geometrycode.com]

Hasn't a lion always represented a sun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


What are gods?

Science becomes mythology in an other perspective.

Are we not exploring physics by telling the story of the gods? Some express ideas in numbers, some in stories. But each is built from relationships. And cultures explore relationships in different ways.

We wonder of the ancients wit but see their math as a religion or a mythology.
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Proof? Proof of what?

Explaining this to you with all candor, after a month or two of experiencing Sekhmet, I began to fall in love with her. I have run across other people on the Internet who love her so much that one person even changed his/her name to "Sekh". Look at all of the statues the Egyptians made of her. Falling in love with Sekhmet seems to be a common theme.

But, she is a symbol. I don't want to hook my star to a symbol. I want to keep some detachment, rather than be led by the nose by something that I do not understand. So, I began to look deeper, seeking the essence of this "key".

Like Chaol has told us, there are symbols on top of symbols on top of symbols. He has told us that we can never see anything directly, but only by its relationship to the space around it. It is the relationships that I hope to uncover during discussion in this thread. I am interested in what other people see in the space surrounding Sekhmet, the Great Hall, the tree.

But, I hesitate to share when others are not sharing. I would like to see from other's insights where I am flat-out wrong, or where I am onto something meaningful.

My discoveries convince me that there is a huge cosmic story that reveals itself more and more when practicing the exercises in this thread. There is something there that I dearly want to know.
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Well, don't stop now

you're onto something ;)
 Quoting: Chaol


Go, girl :)
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Well, don't stop now

you're onto something ;)
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I couldn't stop if I wanted to. It is a near-obsession.

Thank you for the encouragement. It is much appreciated.
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Go, girl :)
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Thank you, Sue. I very much appreciate your interest in this subject. You are always kind and supportive.
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Proof? Proof of what?

Explaining this to you with all candor, after a month or two of experiencing Sekhmet, I began to fall in love with her. I have run across other people on the Internet who love her so much that one person even changed his/her name to "Sekh". Look at all of the statues the Egyptians made of her. Falling in love with Sekhmet seems to be a common theme.

But, she is a symbol. I don't want to hook my star to a symbol. I want to keep some detachment, rather than be led by the nose by something that I do not understand. So, I began to look deeper, seeking the essence of this "key".

Like Chaol has told us, there are symbols on top of symbols on top of symbols. He has told us that we can never see anything directly, but only by its relationship to the space around it. It is the relationships that I hope to uncover during discussion in this thread. I am interested in what other people see in the space surrounding Sekhmet, the Great Hall, the tree.

But, I hesitate to share when others are not sharing. I would like to see from other's insights where I am flat-out wrong, or where I am onto something meaningful.

My discoveries convince me that there is a huge cosmic story that reveals itself more and more when practicing the exercises in this thread. There is something there that I dearly want to know.
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Proof that its actually possible to meet others in the dream reality? You have to remember others reading this thread still might not think its possible even though you and I do.

When its just one person posting it looks unbelievable, so my point was that your self could of been saying, no more from you or it looks too unnatural.

Maybe a new meeting exercise could be organised? Luring others in from the alternate universe thread?
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Go, girl :)
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Thank you, Sue. I very much appreciate your interest in this subject. You are always kind and supportive.
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I am regularly impressed with how your brain works (you've got kids and it hasn't dissolved ;) )
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Proof that its actually possible to meet others in the dream reality? You have to remember others reading this thread still might not think its possible even though you and I do.

When its just one person posting it looks unbelievable, so my point was that your self could of been saying, no more from you or it looks too unnatural.

Maybe a new meeting exercise could be organised? Luring others in from the alternate universe thread?
 Quoting: LeKing

Ah. I see now what you are talking about. This makes sense. Thanks.

I have been in the library when there were others there. Some were reading. Some were sitting around the table. We held hands.

I am thinking that some of us did meet, but don't know or don't believe that we did.

And, yeah, maybe some of my investigations and reporting might scare others. Or, maybe it interests some others and they might make more attempts out of curiosity.
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Proof that its actually possible to meet others in the dream reality? You have to remember others reading this thread still might not think its possible even though you and I do.

When its just one person posting it looks unbelievable, so my point was that your self could of been saying, no more from you or it looks too unnatural.

Maybe a new meeting exercise could be organised? Luring others in from the alternate universe thread?
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That sounds like a good idea. I'm glad you've volunteered!

Just like in the real world, meeting in the dream reality takes effort. We cannot just appear automatically in front of people that we know. You need an 'address' and other markers. (The steps I provided near the beginning of this thread were a kind of address to a specific reality.)

To create your own address, do the same as you would building a house on a street.

Symbolize it,
give it a story,
make it relative to other things,
and invite others.

Symbol
Logic
Interaction
Potential Energy
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Proof that its actually possible to meet others in the dream reality? You have to remember others reading this thread still might not think its possible even though you and I do.

When its just one person posting it looks unbelievable, so my point was that your self could of been saying, no more from you or it looks too unnatural.

Maybe a new meeting exercise could be organised? Luring others in from the alternate universe thread?
 Quoting: LeKing


That sounds like a good idea. I'm glad you've volunteered!

Just like in the real world, meeting in the dream reality takes effort. We cannot just appear automatically in front of people that we know. You need an 'address' and other markers. (The steps I provided near the beginning of this thread were a kind of address to a specific reality.)

To create your own address, do the same as you would building a house on a street.

Symbolize it,
give it a story,
make it relative to other things,
and invite others.

Symbol
Logic
Interaction
Potential Energy
 Quoting: Chaol


I'm up for another meet-up! LeKing - do you want to give us the address etc?
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[snips]

I am thinking that some of us did meet, but don't know or don't believe that we did.

[snips]
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Most were, from my perspective, more personal realities influenced by suggestions.

However, there were a few people that 'broke through' and actually did meet each other.

It need only happen once to show ourselves that it can be done. (Or, more accurately, to remind us that we do it all the time.)

We just need more practice to make it a normal part of our living.

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What's interested me, Chaol, is why you used Sekmet, a symbol with such meaning attached?

For this kind of thing, ie meeting in the new dream reality, do we need a symbol with meaning to create the story?
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However, there was a few people that 'broke through' and actually did meet each other.


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How can we tell?

I remember BEING Sekmet, which wasn't what I expected.
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[snips]
I am thinking that some of us did meet, but don't know or don't believe that we did.
[snips]
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Most were, from my perspective, more personal realities influenced by suggestions.
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Yes. Thank you for saying this. I want to be very careful that I am not making reports that are the result of my seeing what I want to see. It seems that the "real" meetings are surprises. Something occurs that I did not expect. In quite a few instances, these surprises are later corroborated in my waking awareness. These are the incidents that I try to pick out of the various other things that seem to be happening. But, at times, I may be convincing myself that I saw something that is nothing more than my own imagination running away with itself, or, as you say, because of suggestion. I hope that I have not exaggerated too much. I want to keep it real.

We just need more practice to make it a normal part of our living.
 Quoting: Chaol

^^This^^. And I am happy to continue to practice.

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