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Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

 
LeKing

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May I submit that those of us who have had a 'negative' experience while in other worlds or in an out-of-body experience (or whatever you wish to call it) have not actually had that type of experience...

...but have interpreted it as so.

When you focus on having a 'positive' experience "filled with love and light" what you are actually doing is defining its opposite.

We only know of hot by defining what cold is. Thus, both are defined and are experienced. But it is not a direct experience. Rather, it is the interpretation of an experience. A perspective, if you will, based on your definitions.

Further, I submit that the 'hot' depends on 'cold', and thus includes it in its existence.

Those realities where you find "hot" you will also find those "cold" things that define it.

When you say, for example, "I am going to have a positive experience filled with love and light" (or anything similar) then what you're actually doing is creating the experience of the negative (for lack of better terms).

Meaning, you experience these 'bad' things because you are so focused on the good/bad duality. (There is a reason that one is much more likely to commit crimes if one has religious leanings. One constantly struggles with a good/evil paradigm that doesn't actually exist.)

Lastly, I submit that a neutral outlook is best. In such an experience those things are irrelevant are are not even a question.

This neutral experience would be boring and strangely resisted for many (because we depend on the dramas of duality to define ourselves, and to exist) but it is that which is least harmful.

Because help/harm is irrelevant to it.

Some of you will focus on the hot/cold of the water, never having really tasted it to see it is much more than what you think.

Others will just skip the hot/cold drama and just drink the water. The latter experience is perhaps the most nourishing, even though it doesn't seem like it at first.
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more bump, just grabbing some useful posts for when we all direct people here to take part.
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If I may explain a bit...

It works a bit differently than what appears to be assumed. We may assume that we are going to a place like we would in this physical experience. We are either there or are not, and others share the same experience.

In the dream world you are all ways there in some way. Bits of you, so to speak. If it is in your imagination, a part of you is there. (If it were not you would not be able to imagine it. That's the nature of perspective.)

It is more accurate to say that you are there right now. The past is actually a value in the present rather than something, once experienced, lay unchanged for all eternity.

So when you think of something you think happened in the past what you are actually doing is experiencing it now. It appears to be 'past' because of the logic you assign to it.

For example, if you suddenly had an experience that was only somewhat relative to your here and now you would perceive it as being 'over there' or 'not now'. You actually experience all of these simultaneously but because you are unable to perceive everything-at-once you seem to experience them separately.

The same way that we remember dreams (by experiencing that which is relative) is the same way we remember 'past' events.

So the question for us, in this experience, is how do we make it relative for all of us.

Thus, the symbols and the steps that I prescribed. What it does is gives us all the same map to go by to experience the same kind of reality.

It may help to realize that you are already there. Following the instructions just helps you to focus on what you are experiencing all ready. Think of it as an emotional movement rather than a physical movement. You are 'standing still' and shifting the world around you, so to speak.

I hope this helps to clarify it somewhat. Please try again tonight or whenever you feel comfortable.
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Good post
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May I submit that those of us who have had a 'negative' experience while in other worlds or in an out-of-body experience (or whatever you wish to call it) have not actually had that type of experience...

...but have interpreted it as so.

When you focus on having a 'positive' experience "filled with love and light" what you are actually doing is defining its opposite.

We only know of hot by defining what cold is. Thus, both are defined and are experienced. But it is not a direct experience. Rather, it is the interpretation of an experience. A perspective, if you will, based on your definitions.

Further, I submit that the 'hot' depends on 'cold', and thus includes it in its existence.

Those realities where you find "hot" you will also find those "cold" things that define it.

When you say, for example, "I am going to have a positive experience filled with love and light" (or anything similar) then what you're actually doing is creating the experience of the negative (for lack of better terms).

Meaning, you experience these 'bad' things because you are so focused on the good/bad duality. (There is a reason that one is much more likely to commit crimes if one has religious leanings. One constantly struggles with a good/evil paradigm that doesn't actually exist.)

Lastly, I submit that a neutral outlook is best. In such an experience those things are irrelevant are are not even a question.

This neutral experience would be boring and strangely resisted for many (because we depend on the dramas of duality to define ourselves, and to exist) but it is that which is least harmful.

Because help/harm is irrelevant to it.

Some of you will focus on the hot/cold of the water, never having really tasted it to see it is much more than what you think.

Others will just skip the hot/cold drama and just drink the water. The latter experience is perhaps the most nourishing, even though it doesn't seem like it at first.
 Quoting: Chaol


more bump, just grabbing some useful posts for when we all direct people here to take part.
 Quoting: LeKing


Thank you for bumping this! My dreams became extremely negative this week- and I was baffled as to why.
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LeKing. Did you just now insert this following sentence in the above quote?

The two representations are from an older, forgotten time'space. Much more 'ancient' than Egypt and both important values in physical perspective.
 Quoting: Chaol

I'm kidding.

I have read the "meeting in the Great Hall" quote dozens of times. It is printed out and next to my bed where I have studied it literally dozens of times. I completely missed that one little sentence. It never registered with me.

I have spent a lot of time on a side trip that has taken me to pre-Egypt. I thought I was making an educated statement when I wrote:
I think it is because the apparent knowledge displayed by the Egyptians is a corruption of something introduced to them by an earlier culture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315

There are some really good references to pre-Egypt in different places. Michael Tsarion has done some fabulous research on this subject, which he published in several books, but most particularly in "The Irish Origins of Civilization".

More on this later. I don't want to disrupt the thread right now by taking off in a different direction.
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Sounds interesting, looking forward to hearing about it.

I have read many of your earlier posts while going through this thread. You must have waited along time for something like this to happen.

The more interactions and confirmations the better. I haven't really tried to experiment over there, only made it consciously across 4-5 times , so perfect timing for everyone :).

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If I may explain a bit...

So when you think of something you think happened in the past what you are actually doing is experiencing it now. It appears to be 'past' because of the logic you assign to it.

For example, if you suddenly had an experience that was only somewhat relative to your here and now you would perceive it as being 'over there' or 'not now'.


 Quoting: Chaol


Good post
 Quoting: LeKing


I've read this before, but tonight, this bit has given me a real light-bulb moment! Thanks, Friend
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LeKing. Did you just now insert this following sentence in the above quote?

The two representations are from an older, forgotten time'space. Much more 'ancient' than Egypt and both important values in physical perspective.
 Quoting: Chaol

I'm kidding.

I have read the "meeting in the Great Hall" quote dozens of times. It is printed out and next to my bed where I have studied it literally dozens of times. I completely missed that one little sentence. It never registered with me.

I have spent a lot of time on a side trip that has taken me to pre-Egypt. I thought I was making an educated statement when I wrote:
I think it is because the apparent knowledge displayed by the Egyptians is a corruption of something introduced to them by an earlier culture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315

There are some really good references to pre-Egypt in different places. Michael Tsarion has done some fabulous research on this subject, which he published in several books, but most particularly in "The Irish Origins of Civilization".

More on this later. I don't want to disrupt the thread right now by taking off in a different direction.
 Quoting: LeKing


Sounds interesting, looking forward to hearing about it.

I have read many of your earlier posts while going through this thread. You must have waited along time for something like this to happen.

The more interactions and confirmations the better. I haven't really tried to experiment over there, only made it consciously across 4-5 times , so perfect timing for everyone :).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


Me, also, looking forward to reading more about your understandings, Kath
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The next 3 nights should be interesting,

November 15/16: A short meeting in the dream world under Chaolís tree as first attempted months ago. Its possible to connect there any time. So as a warm up to the big one this is a good starting point I feel.

November 16/17: The power of our Sun ensures as we attempt to meet on the sun again.

November 17/18: Hopefully we are all dream world experts ;) or Chaol is there to help us and we attempt to find city with lagoons! Surely if someone posts about dreams in cities and lagoons after this date we can organise more types of meetings and activities.

How's that sound?

I secretly think this might be tied in with Chaol's disappearance for a while, hopefully helping us all over there as we connect? Who knows!

There will be a binaural beat used as an aid but its really not necessary the mental symbol is enough.

Instructions for each meet will be posted on the day.

The 15/16ths short meet instructions will be posted at 10:50pm UK time (2 hours 40 mins from this post)

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Chaol recommended 10hz and binaural not isochronic.
The only time I had an OBE was using binaurals, so I think they will be a valuable asset to the "training"

10hz with white noise:
[link to www.youtube.com]

10 hz pure:
[link to www.youtube.com]


10hz binaural + isochronic:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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One day we will realize there's no difference between mental and physical symbols.

But until then, you can experiment to see which one works best. A mental symbol is easily shared with others, though.
 Quoting: Chaol


This strikes me, because I have felt this way all along.

However, I have been looking for a bridge between the two (mental and physical), perhaps much like a bridge between two worlds?

I suppose it all begins by saying those worlds (all of them?), those "things" are all "made up" of the same stuff/matter/shalala?

This is how my experience of the "dream" world shifted: By understanding that what happens "there" is no less "real" than what's happening "here". (Of course, here and there are also redefined, depending on where I am.)

I'm in for the exercise, btw :)
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For the next three nights we will meet in the dream world.

The following are instructions on how to get there. You may join us at any time.

As Chaol has mentioned before in this thread, Horus-on-the-Horizon will show us the way. This is not a person, deity, or entity. This is a symbol with two parts. It is very real, and exists now.

The first part of the symbol is the rising sun. You are experiencing this now in your current physicality. It is your waking self.

The second part of the symbol is the setting sun. You experience this usually when you sleep. It is a different kind of physicality.

We will form a bridge across the two realities so that you experience this second stage in your waking stage.

The following is the key:

1) Find a comfortable, quiet place relatively free of distractions (you donít have to be asleep) begin to count down from 250 backwards in your mind until you get to zero.

2) Imagine Sekhmet, the ancient Egyptian goddess. You can perform an image search for something that you are comfortable with imagining. I would recommend a stone representation like [link to upload.wikimedia.org]

3) Sekhmet is standing at the doorway, ready to let you in. Form an image of Sekhmet in your mind until you feel Sekhmet before you physically. Then, imagine a luminous blue necklace around her neck. Like [link to www.daisygreenmagazine.co.uk]

4) Once you are experiencing this and are comfortable, extend your right arm and place your hand on her left shoulder.

5) This opens the door to Chaolís world. You see a short passageway to a green field where there is a tree.

Come to the tree, and join me there in Chaol's world.

After a short while you will safely return to the rising sun.

Note: It may also help if you have not eaten 4+ hours prior.
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I did my best to make the first meeting simple so that you have something to take with you with your waking mind. If it is too complex then you may not be able to 'translate' it upon awakening and, thus, forget your dream. (Forgetting your experience in the dreamworld is really just not being able to interpret it well.)

See most of you soon.

We've a number of people (different perspectives) so the first time (tonight) will be quick and stable.

The next two nights will utilize certain energies more, so it should be stable in the way of intensity of experience.

Then we can learn how to integrate this new kind of physicality into our everyday lives more, after this.
You don't have to use those symbols.

But it happens to be one of the 'keys' that is already in your mind, so to speak.

You are welcome to use another symbol for tonight. Just make sure it looks human but is not, has missing arms (to represent that you are to interact, not the symbol to you), and a neck to wrap something blue round (to represent words).

Try to make it a point just to run to the green field under the tree. Don't get caught up in 'getting there' or going through what may seem like hyperspace. While standing in front of Sekhmet try to focus on the tree and do everything you can to not lose that focus once you feel you've got the focus.
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I did my best to make the first meeting simple so that you have something to take with you with your waking mind. If it is too complex then you may not be able to 'translate' it upon awakening and, thus, forget your dream. (Forgetting your experience in the dreamworld is really just not being able to interpret it well.)

See most of you soon.

We've a number of people (different perspectives) so the first time (tonight) will be quick and stable.

The next two nights will utilize certain energies more, so it should be stable in the way of intensity of experience.

Then we can learn how to integrate this new kind of physicality into our everyday lives more, after this.
You don't have to use those symbols.

But it happens to be one of the 'keys' that is already in your mind, so to speak.

You are welcome to use another symbol for tonight. Just make sure it looks human but is not, has missing arms (to represent that you are to interact, not the symbol to you), and a neck to wrap something blue round (to represent words).

Try to make it a point just to run to the green field under the tree. Don't get caught up in 'getting there' or going through what may seem like hyperspace. While standing in front of Sekhmet try to focus on the tree and do everything you can to not lose that focus once you feel you've got the focus.
 Quoting: LeKing




Awesome! TY! And see you soon, heh! Edit: We don't need a word?

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Sorry to get so far off the subject matter of this thread, but I think that it is relative in a different way.

This is my understanding so far:

Baal is representative of separation; of power over; of dominion over.

Yahweh is representative of restrictive rules; of control.

And yet, Thought/Thoth/Yahweh holds the ankh.
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Why don't we ask Chaol. Chaol?

afro
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The most relative "gods" are the ones in our current reality. The ones we tend to overlook as being the same quality of forces as were popular in other times.

So, just for example, "Yahweh" in a past value may be "money" in a present value. Think of people in future assuming that we worshipped the god of money and built temples, made sacrifices, etc.

They're everyday aspects of reality and are used as such. But again, the most relevant are those that are more in your now/here.
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Sorry to get so far off the subject matter of this thread, but I think that it is relative in a different way.

This is my understanding so far:

Baal is representative of separation; of power over; of dominion over.

Yahweh is representative of restrictive rules; of control.

And yet, Thought/Thoth/Yahweh holds the ankh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


Why don't we ask Chaol. Chaol?

afro
 Quoting: Unit3


The most relative "gods" are the ones in our current reality. The ones we tend to overlook as being the same quality of forces as were popular in other times.

So, just for example, "Yahweh" in a past value may be "money" in a present value. Think of people in future assuming that we worshipped the god of money and built temples, made sacrifices, etc.

They're everyday aspects of reality and are used as such. But again, the most relevant are those that are more in your now/here.
 Quoting: Chaol





Verrrrrry interesting. Thank you for this. I'm sure we will use this information the month you are gone.
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Thank you for bumping this! My dreams became extremely negative this week- and I was baffled as to why.
 Quoting: CatCarel


If you felt that way upon awakening it may not be something that was felt whilst dreaming but interpreted as such.

Sometimes when we resist something in our dreams it may appear to us as a negative something and then we create a story around that to make sense of the resistance.
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Chaol recommended 10hz and binaural not isochronic.
The only time I had an OBE was using binaurals, so I think they will be a valuable asset to the "training"

10hz with white noise:
[link to www.youtube.com]

10 hz pure:
[link to www.youtube.com]


10hz binaural + isochronic:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Dodec 20177375


10 not so much as a recommendation, just an example.

Different tones for different purposes.

By the way, you don't need headphones for binaural tones. Only for your ears to hear the tones distinctly. But your brain can hear both distinctly anyway (and thus 'produce' a binaural tone) without the headphones.
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One day we will realize there's no difference between mental and physical symbols.

But until then, you can experiment to see which one works best. A mental symbol is easily shared with others, though.
 Quoting: Chaol


This strikes me, because I have felt this way all along.

However, I have been looking for a bridge between the two (mental and physical), perhaps much like a bridge between two worlds?

I suppose it all begins by saying those worlds (all of them?), those "things" are all "made up" of the same stuff/matter/shalala?

This is how my experience of the "dream" world shifted: By understanding that what happens "there" is no less "real" than what's happening "here". (Of course, here and there are also redefined, depending on where I am.)

I'm in for the exercise, btw :)
 Quoting: * * *


Don't you find the bridge every day?
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For the next three nights we will meet in the dream world.

The following are instructions on how to get there. You may join us at any time.

As Chaol has mentioned before in this thread, Horus-on-the-Horizon will show us the way. This is not a person, deity, or entity. This is a symbol with two parts. It is very real, and exists now.

The first part of the symbol is the rising sun. You are experiencing this now in your current physicality. It is your waking self.

The second part of the symbol is the setting sun. You experience this usually when you sleep. It is a different kind of physicality.

We will form a bridge across the two realities so that you experience this second stage in your waking stage.

The following is the key:

1) Find a comfortable, quiet place relatively free of distractions (you donít have to be asleep) begin to count down from 250 backwards in your mind until you get to zero.

2) Imagine Sekhmet, the ancient Egyptian goddess. You can perform an image search for something that you are comfortable with imagining. I would recommend a stone representation like [link to upload.wikimedia.org]

3) Sekhmet is standing at the doorway, ready to let you in. Form an image of Sekhmet in your mind until you feel Sekhmet before you physically. Then, imagine a luminous blue necklace around her neck. Like [link to www.daisygreenmagazine.co.uk]

4) Once you are experiencing this and are comfortable, extend your right arm and place your hand on her left shoulder.

5) This opens the door to Chaolís world. You see a short passageway to a green field where there is a tree.

Come to the tree, and join me there in Chaol's world.

After a short while you will safely return to the rising sun.

Note: It may also help if you have not eaten 4+ hours prior.
 Quoting: LeKing


nice.. hope to see you there =D
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One day we will realize there's no difference between mental and physical symbols.

But until then, you can experiment to see which one works best. A mental symbol is easily shared with others, though.
 Quoting: Chaol


This strikes me, because I have felt this way all along.

However, I have been looking for a bridge between the two (mental and physical), perhaps much like a bridge between two worlds?

I suppose it all begins by saying those worlds (all of them?), those "things" are all "made up" of the same stuff/matter/shalala?

This is how my experience of the "dream" world shifted: By understanding that what happens "there" is no less "real" than what's happening "here". (Of course, here and there are also redefined, depending on where I am.)

I'm in for the exercise, btw :)
 Quoting: * * *


Don't you find the bridge every day?
 Quoting: Chaol


Actually, yes, thank you for pointing out where I should clarify. It's not so much a bridge I'm looking for, but a more consistent merger?

Where duality becomes unity.

Mentally I am quite "strong". The recent years have been about my learning how to translate that into my physical experience. Or how to translate my physical experience more mentally?

Now I'm confused. Haha.
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Thank you for bumping this! My dreams became extremely negative this week- and I was baffled as to why.
 Quoting: CatCarel


If you felt that way upon awakening it may not be something that was felt whilst dreaming but interpreted as such.

Sometimes when we resist something in our dreams it may appear to us as a negative something and then we create a story around that to make sense of the resistance.
 Quoting: Chaol


So I shouldn't resist the psychopath next time. blink

Ok.
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Serious question, how do binaural tones effect persons with only one inner ear?
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Thank you for bumping this! My dreams became extremely negative this week- and I was baffled as to why.
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No problem!
Me, also, looking forward to reading more about your understandings, Kath
 Quoting: Marshwiggle

Should be a good weekend then :) Looking forward to hearing how everyone did.
Chaol recommended 10hz and binaural not isochronic.
The only time I had an OBE was using binaurals, so I think they will be a valuable asset to the "training"

10hz with white noise:
[link to www.youtube.com]

10 hz pure:
[link to www.youtube.com]


10hz binaural + isochronic:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Dodec 20177375

Thanks for the links but I have a specific tone in mind :) I will upload it later on today. Its 50mb and not necessary at all, its just experimentation.
Awesome! TY! And see you soon, heh! Edit: We don't need a word?

Goofy Thum
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We don't for the short meeting, for the next 2 nights there will be a tone and a EC word to be spoken, I am sure it can be in your mind but out loud will probably work also, I don't know if it will be more effective or not.
nice.. hope to see you there =D
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Thanks! Hope to see you there too.

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One day we will realize there's no difference between mental and physical symbols.

But until then, you can experiment to see which one works best. A mental symbol is easily shared with others, though.
 Quoting: Chaol


This strikes me, because I have felt this way all along.

However, I have been looking for a bridge between the two (mental and physical), perhaps much like a bridge between two worlds?

I suppose it all begins by saying those worlds (all of them?), those "things" are all "made up" of the same stuff/matter/shalala?

This is how my experience of the "dream" world shifted: By understanding that what happens "there" is no less "real" than what's happening "here". (Of course, here and there are also redefined, depending on where I am.)

I'm in for the exercise, btw :)
 Quoting: * * *


Don't you find the bridge every day?
 Quoting: Chaol


Actually, yes, thank you for pointing out where I should clarify. It's not so much a bridge I'm looking for, but a more consistent merger?

Where duality becomes unity.

Mentally I am quite "strong". The recent years have been about my learning how to translate that into my physical experience. Or how to translate my physical experience more mentally?

Now I'm confused. Haha.
 Quoting: * * *


Perhaps to clarify the question can be, "Don't you find the bridge every night?"

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Serious question, how do binaural tones effect persons with only one inner ear?
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The brain "produces" the tone, not the inner ear.

Without any hearing at all the tones can still effect us.
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[snips]...for the next 2 nights there will be a tone and a EC word to be spoken, I am sure it can be in your mind but out loud will probably work also, I don't know if it will be more effective or not.
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It could be very effective, depending on the word.
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[snips]...for the next 2 nights there will be a tone and a EC word to be spoken, I am sure it can be in your mind but out loud will probably work also, I don't know if it will be more effective or not.
 Quoting: LeKing


It could be very effective, depending on the word.
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I was going to create a new neuronicon for "The experience of meeting Chaol and others taking part in the meeting in the dream reality exercise during the 16/17th nexus".

It would be 4 neuronicons, the instructions would be to pronounce the neuronicon string after the 250 count down just before the person mentally imagines Sekhmet.

How effective would that be?

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Below is the download link to the tone we will be using tonight.

[link to rapidshare.com (secure)]

It is on for 30 mins.

Feel free to test it any time.

It is a bineural tone btw, but enough has been said about them by Chaol to determine it should have an effect on everyone.

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
Below is the download link to the tone we will be using tonight.

[link to rapidshare.com (secure)]

It is on for 30 mins.

Feel free to test it any time.

It is a bineural tone btw, but enough has been said about them by Chaol to determine it should have an effect on everyone.
 Quoting: LeKing





It's wonderful. TY.
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
Below is the download link to the tone we will be using tonight.

[link to rapidshare.com (secure)]

It is on for 30 mins.

Feel free to test it any time.

It is a bineural tone btw, but enough has been said about them by Chaol to determine it should have an effect on everyone.
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don't get how you do this ^

I registered for an account but didn't see a download

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
For the next three nights we will meet in the dream world.

The following are instructions on how to get there. You may join us at any time.

As Chaol has mentioned before in this thread, Horus-on-the-Horizon will show us the way. This is not a person, deity, or entity. This is a symbol with two parts. It is very real, and exists now.

The first part of the symbol is the rising sun. You are experiencing this now in your current physicality. It is your waking self.

The second part of the symbol is the setting sun. You experience this usually when you sleep. It is a different kind of physicality.

We will form a bridge across the two realities so that you experience this second stage in your waking stage.

The following is the key:

1) Find a comfortable, quiet place relatively free of distractions (you donít have to be asleep) begin to count down from 250 backwards in your mind until you get to zero.

2) Imagine Sekhmet, the ancient Egyptian goddess. You can perform an image search for something that you are comfortable with imagining. I would recommend a stone representation like [link to upload.wikimedia.org]

3) Sekhmet is standing at the doorway, ready to let you in. Form an image of Sekhmet in your mind until you feel Sekhmet before you physically. Then, imagine a luminous blue necklace around her neck. Like [link to www.daisygreenmagazine.co.uk]

4) Once you are experiencing this and are comfortable, extend your right arm and place your hand on her left shoulder.

5) This opens the door to Chaolís world. You see a short passageway to a green field where there is a tree.

Come to the tree, and join me there in Chaol's world.

After a short while you will safely return to the rising sun.

Note: It may also help if you have not eaten 4+ hours prior.
 Quoting: LeKing


I didn't see this until now - Sat eve but funnily enough I did go there last night. Not to the tree, but inside the Sphinx.
I wasn't aware of anyone else but I did leave a genius there, on the table, in the library. Anyone wanting to interact with it, you're welcome, of course!

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