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Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

 
Chaol (OP)

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
since I was a child, my dream reality has been more robust than my perceptions/interactions while "awake".

often times after awakening, I can close my eyes and re-enter the dream world near to where I "left" it. with the same individuals...interactions.

looking forward to meeting you tomorrow night.

should I expect a symbol/key before then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093481


Yes. I am making a key now for everyone.

Further instruction will be provided here before then.

It'll be just a couple of lines. Nothing complicated.

See you then.
Chaol (OP)

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06/13/2012 01:02 AM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
Horus? Ra? El? I'm not fond of these archtypes, otherwise I'm really interested in this thread and the idea behind it.
 Quoting: einsteinsfly


Neither am I.

But the key that works will be used. (No, not Horus but Horus-on-the-Horizon, which comes in 2 parts. The second part will be revealed shortly and is the key.)
 Quoting: Chaol

Then I am willing to explore the relationship of this 2 part key in the integration.
 Quoting: einsteinsfly


The first part of the 'two suns' you are experiencing now. The first sun represents this brand of physicality (what you call the waking world).

The second sun is a new kind of physicality. You have all ways had this (in your dreams) but this new sun represents integrating your dream world with your waking world.

The merging of the two suns, so to speak. Many of you have been experiencing the effects of X integrating with your world.

Enjoy :)

You may find it quite interesting.
RAe
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06/13/2012 01:27 AM
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Choal, I'm fortunate in the sense I "remember my dreams" way more than most. They are my favorite experiences. In the most intense ones I am with my group soul Re or Ray.

The problem I have is that I have such a hard time falling asleep! Is there any key or something you can recommended to help me fall asleep? I usually have to take ambien or wait until I'm exhausted which causes problems in this waking world when i'm not on a schedule like everyone else.

I have a good diet if it matters.

Thanks for your most interesting discussion abduct
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06/13/2012 01:31 AM
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hes is a world created from the same than this. Look the bolded part, is what happen here... our realm reflect our manifestations, but somehow is an umbalanced world. We missed more ingredients in the mix: love an respect.

if enough of those things and balance i firmly believe we will not need cops anymore in the long term.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17804894


One day it will be understood that the 'cops' depend on the 'criminals' and vice versa.

Without them the criminals would have no definition, and would become irrelevant. (There would be no criminals).

The more 'cops' are defined the more powerful the idea of 'criminals' becomes.

It is the same as anything else.
 Quoting: Chaol


exactly.
concatenated
as in a chain, we need to change or break one link if we wish to go another direction.

the reinforcement of symbols, make them more permanent to the degree that alter our reality.

Many ways to unfold your theories but the path at end is one, ripping the veils of this dream to see beyond.
cool2
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Chaol (OP)

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06/13/2012 03:40 AM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
Choal, I'm fortunate in the sense I "remember my dreams" way more than most. They are my favorite experiences. In the most intense ones I am with my group soul Re or Ray.

The problem I have is that I have such a hard time falling asleep! Is there any key or something you can recommended to help me fall asleep? I usually have to take ambien or wait until I'm exhausted which causes problems in this waking world when i'm not on a schedule like everyone else.

I have a good diet if it matters.

Thanks for your most interesting discussion abduct
 Quoting: RAe 16653827


Hi.

When you lay down to sleep, are you thinking about your day, planning, analyzing, or something similar?

Are you thinking differently when you want to sleep than you are when you want to be alert?
Dad'sBoy
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06/13/2012 05:37 AM
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Dear Chaol,
When you mean that time is flexible and that the past and present futures are just perceptions to each and one of us, does it mean that I can sleep right now and meet you? Time traveling in a way, but not really? What is really?
Newbie Dreamer

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06/13/2012 05:41 AM
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So what is the symbol? why i think its something with sun or merkaba?
My mission here to create heaven in this world.
Search for thread: Merkaba chakras meditation by art. Balance yourself. Preparing body for multidimensional self.
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06/13/2012 05:45 AM
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Chaol,

Can a take a guitar with me? Would be so much fun!

First question, is it a one-time event or it will be done regularly?

What about language "there" ? Only English or some universal language?

I'm eagerly waiting for this. See you soon!
Newbie Dreamer

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06/13/2012 05:58 AM
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Chaol,

Can a take a guitar with me? Would be so much fun!

First question, is it a one-time event or it will be done regularly?

What about language "there" ? Only English or some universal language?

I'm eagerly waiting for this. See you soon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2045817


In dreams we have auto translator, so dont worry :)
One time have lucid dream with something like yoda like alien and his language was translated in slow motion with a little bit delay but it was fine, could be like movie with 2 sound tracks, translation on top.

Last Edited by Newbie Dreamer on 06/13/2012 06:19 AM
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Search for thread: Merkaba chakras meditation by art. Balance yourself. Preparing body for multidimensional self.
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06/13/2012 06:34 AM
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i already feel i'm living in a dreamworld right now, or "in between-world" , so i'm very open to this "experiment"

Looking forward to it!
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06/13/2012 06:35 AM
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it appears chaol himself has now entered the dreamworld and is fast asleep.
Chaol (OP)

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06/13/2012 07:31 AM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
Dear Chaol,
When you mean that time is flexible and that the past and present futures are just perceptions to each and one of us, does it mean that I can sleep right now and meet you? Time traveling in a way, but not really? What is really?
 Quoting: Dad'sBoy 1422416


Hi.

Time and space are more about perspective than something that exists without your perspective.

You could say that you create time and space as a means to perceive. They (it) is an illusion. Without it, our experience would not be logical. (Then you would experience everything simultaneously.)

So time and space allow value (or things, experiences) to be logically illustrated for us.

See [link to ecsys.org]

Time and space traveling are just shifts of perspective. The tools that we use to do it (walking, machines, mental tools, etc) make the experience logical for us.

Hope this helps to clarify some.
Chaol (OP)

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06/13/2012 07:32 AM
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Chaol,

Can a take a guitar with me? Would be so much fun!

First question, is it a one-time event or it will be done regularly?

What about language "there" ? Only English or some universal language?

I'm eagerly waiting for this. See you soon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2045817


I am not sure about frequency. Let's just say 3 nights for now.

The language you speak, whatever that may be, is fine.

See you.
Anonymous Coward
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06/13/2012 07:33 AM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
This seems more to be a form of Existentialism than anything else.
Chaol (OP)

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
Chaol,

Can a take a guitar with me? Would be so much fun!

First question, is it a one-time event or it will be done regularly?

What about language "there" ? Only English or some universal language?

I'm eagerly waiting for this. See you soon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2045817


In dreams we have auto translator, so dont worry :)
One time have lucid dream with something like yoda like alien and his language was translated in slow motion with a little bit delay but it was fine, could be like movie with 2 sound tracks, translation on top.
 Quoting: Newbie Dreamer


Yes.

When you speak you are not speaking words but symbols.

Others can interpret these symbols in their own way. Pets do this often but of course we also have the ability to do this.
Newbie Dreamer

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I know. See them then closed my eyes

Last Edited by Newbie Dreamer on 06/13/2012 07:35 AM
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Search for thread: Merkaba chakras meditation by art. Balance yourself. Preparing body for multidimensional self.
Chaol (OP)

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
This seems more to be a form of Existentialism than anything else.
 Quoting: TS66


What is existentialism, to you?
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Time is that quality of nature which keeps events from happening all at once. Lately it doesn't seem to be working...
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
This seems more to be a form of Existentialism than anything else.
 Quoting: TS66


What is existentialism, to you?
 Quoting: Chaol


It is that all that we perceive as life, this or any other, is created by and for our own personal existence.

Let me clarify, SOLELY for our own personal existence. Those around us only exist because of us, and cease to exist without us.
Chaol (OP)

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06/13/2012 07:47 AM
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This seems more to be a form of Existentialism than anything else.
 Quoting: TS66


What is existentialism, to you?
 Quoting: Chaol


It is that all that we perceive as life, this or any other, is created by and for our own personal existence.
 Quoting: TS66


Then no. We are not the center of the universe.

What is being advanced is something where ego is irrelevant. Why would "our" universe be limited by the definitions spout by our tongue?
Chaol (OP)

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06/13/2012 07:52 AM
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Let me clarify, SOLELY for our own personal existence. Those around us only exist because of us, and cease to exist without us.
 Quoting: TS66


Ecsys holds that there is no difference between you and them. It is the same.

It is not a matter of "me" or "you" or "them".

Ecsys does not have the possibility of being true (as what is true is beyond perception). And neither does a perspective.
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06/13/2012 08:25 AM
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well..unless you reveal the keys, this thread has run its course.
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06/13/2012 08:32 AM

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This seems more to be a form of Existentialism than anything else.
 Quoting: TS66


What is existentialism, to you?
 Quoting: Chaol


It is that all that we perceive as life, this or any other, is created by and for our own personal existence.

Let me clarify, SOLELY for our own personal existence. Those around us only exist because of us, and cease to exist without us.
 Quoting: TS66


Solipsism
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
Chaol, is Bryan Kemila right? Are you he?
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06/13/2012 09:25 AM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
hey chaol, i really enjoy reading this. over the last month my dreams become more and more "real" and im dreaming every night/nap now. i really hope to meet you tomorror/this night!? will it be tommorow night or this night? (it´s 13.06 03:24pm right now)
Chaol (OP)

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06/13/2012 10:13 AM
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Chaol, is Bryan Kemila right? Are you he?
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Sorry. I do not know what you're talking about.
Chaol (OP)

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06/13/2012 10:15 AM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
hey chaol, i really enjoy reading this. over the last month my dreams become more and more "real" and im dreaming every night/nap now. i really hope to meet you tomorror/this night!? will it be tommorow night or this night? (it´s 13.06 03:24pm right now)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17868239


Hi.

The night of June 14/15.

See you then :)
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06/13/2012 10:24 AM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
hey chaol, i really enjoy reading this. over the last month my dreams become more and more "real" and im dreaming every night/nap now. i really hope to meet you tomorror/this night!? will it be tommorow night or this night? (it´s 13.06 03:24pm right now)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17868239


Hi.

The night of June 14/15.

See you then :)
 Quoting: Chaol


thank you :) i´m really looking forward to it. so for me it will be tomorrow night as you said time zones will not have any effect right?
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality
Chaol, for the last few months I have been getting real bad sleep paralysis and I lose no consciousness between dream state/awake state. Its like if I am in a dream I will start to get real tired(in the dream) and the dream state slowly fades away and before I know it my room that I am sleeping in starts to reappear. What is all this about? I also sleep with a blanket over my eyes so I dunno why I am able to see my room upon wake up with a blanket over my eyes.

Also why would my dreams have a physical touch/weight to them? Like if I see a book in my dream I could pick it up and it has physical weight to it, or if a dog comes and jumps on my lap I could feel the weight of the dog just as I would in this life. Whats this all about? Please tell me

One other thing and this has happened to me a few times. I would be in my dream extremely tired(getting ready to go to sleep in my dream) and these punks probably late teens maybe early 20's just go and slam a door and try to startle me and when they do that they laugh. I will hear the door slam in real life and jump up even though it happens in that dream state. Its very weird.

Also whats this circular white/liquid type of light that I sometimes see at the ceiling upon wake up?

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