Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

I tried it last night. I got sucked by the gardens door after the blue collar key. But I don't remember anything after that.
Today I have been trying, twice, but fall asleep. But no, I will not stop. See you guys in the white room.

Very much so. Thank you for all your kindness.

Thank you for making it fun.

Even though I feel my waking mind involved in following the steps you've given us -- like imagining a stone Sekhmet, setting her in the center of a room, and etc. -- there are enough unexpected events to convince me that these are real worlds and not simply fantasies.

Chaol, do you expect to be updating the ecsys.org website anytime soon ?

It would be very good if it contained more effective in depth information of how to use it properly and maybe some information about Dream World travelling. Tks anyway and see you guys around.

Maybe that would be helpful. A lot of us are getting just so far and then falling asleep, without remembering anything more. Revealing your keyword/action may be just what is needed.

This is hilarious!

I am sorry that I didn't see this, but, then, maybe next "time".

Looking forward to it!

Right. I said that I was the Queen of Wands, brought the Tarot card with me and was showing it, and at some point handing out multiple copies of it to several people.

To some, I also mentioned the name Leonardo (my cat).

My hope was that someone would mention the Queen of Wands on their own... a true wow moment. But I guess this will do, and if anyone recalls receiving a card from me, or hearing it, it would still be awesome.

I also gave one card to the guy who gave me a cookie in exchange...

This is probably just my brain filling out gaps, but I think I can recall someone doing something with tarot cards just beforeI went to the left upper corner of the area where the fortune teller box with the threating iznougoud was.. There was a door as well but I was apparently mesmerized with the iznougoud-figure. The only connection with tarot I have is an aquaintance who did me a reading over chat few months ago. my card was two of wands and/or the fool :D

Anyway, it's prolly just my mind playing tricks afterwards.

Tonight, upon falling asleep, I will visualize the "key" to the room again. Let's see what happens.

Last night, no recall of dreams. My memories come from the morning attempt, semi-awake and in deep relaxation mode. Though it lasted longer than I thought. When I opened my eyes, and hour and a half had passed...

Maybe I was there also during sleep, only I can't remember.
As an aid, I placed the physical Tarot card on my bed stand, and did visualize the room, but then fell asleep.

I know what you mean! That's why I was hoping to hear about it before me confirming it.

I am now wondering if I indeed saw someone doing front flips...

In any event, I am still thrilled to hear this from you! You never know... maybe your mind is not playing tricks afterall... :)

What I am glad about, is the circus experience for many of us. Something must be up with that!

I am definitely trying to go back there tonight.

@Chaol,

What I am wondering about, is:
if someone joins us "next week", and can still get there, where there is no time, what happens if each night we try a different unique thing?

the guy from "next week" will see what I am doing "last night"? Or any other of the new things?

What if tonight I see the person doing the front flips, who in the meantime is also trying the room again, but doing another thing?

Trying to figure out how it works, and the meeting in "real time" issue. :)

On the other hand, it would be nice the reverse process. If someone confirmed "Yes, I was the cookie guy" "I was wearing a cake on my head" "I blasted in, surfing on a wave of water", etc.

any tips on visualization?
i am seeing this as the most important part
and one i am tripping on

Well well well...
Seems like the Star Wars boy is all claims and no deeds.
This is utter bullcrap. I want to see the excuses the followers of this jesus christ wannabe will present.

Hi. Did you see this earlier post? I found it to be helpful.

this seems like the only piece of information i DID hear
and the only way i am trying to imagine it
except that when i think about thinking like that,
i watch myself think like that and the image becomes a tiny tiny version

eh. i'll keep trying knowing this is good advice

I don't know if this helps, but imagine that the inner side where your forehead/third eye is, is a big movie screen. The images projected onto the screen take up all of it, from within. It is above your physical eyes, so you are not compelled to use them for your "vision".

Bed time, I will try the key again...

Chaol

If the sun is physicality, then what is the moon?

The metaphor is, that without sun, we wouln't exist in this realm. There are't stupid questions, only stupid people :)

Thank you. I was waiting for that. It's a sign of how far we've come :)

Do you find your skill with the dream world improving?

Unfortunately, no. I am unable to update it at this time.

Yes, it would help. But the most meaningful words are those that each of us write, about our own experiences.

Could this be related to the below, "there was a guy walking with a cake on his head.", as a Queen's crown may be interpreted as such?



"A guy said "Cookie cool!" and offered me a cookie." (see below. Possibly an other correlation, especially since it was the same person as the experience above.



emphases of me

Yes, there will be some who 'go back' to a specific experience like the first time they went through.

You can experience any past/future time in the dreamworld but keep in mind that you will experience that which is most relative.

So if that 'past' experience (that you though you experienced last week or 10 years ago) is again relative to you tonight then it will be the same 'time' in the dream world.

However, we will probably make other aspects of this room relevant to us and, thus, will not 'crowd' together in the same dream time.

So, some of what you saw, heard, etc., are of people that will do, say, etc., that in future. Part of the bridge I make/made was for us to have a few experiences in the same waking time.

It's confusing, yes. But the waking time makes it confusing rather than the dream time being confusing by itself, I think.

True.

How can we make it better? Shall I kill myself now or wait for the dinner check first?

What would be called the metaphysical.

Without stupid questions we would not exist.

Neither would there be civilization.

The first person to think of making her own fire was an idiot.

Until, of course, the fire was used the first time.

Then, she's a genius.

Any of these ingenious things have their roots firmly in the 'stupid'.

But, of course, that value exists only in the perspective that sees it. By itself, it is nothing.

A universe filled with stupid questions is the one in which imagination runs free, and there is life.

Chaol - thank you for a wonderful experience. Must admit, I feel drained (that's good!). I have no sure idea who 'welcomed me' the first night of this exercise, but my instinct is that it was you. We laughed together with such joy - it was an awesome moment. I do hope that you will continue this instructive method.

i have seen weird dreams, like crystal city, playing on the swing in air.