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Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.

 
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Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
These topics have been discussed alot, but quite naturally it is to my understanding that the planetary systems are the same physics as atoms.

I think they can answer alot of questions about atoms by simply taking our own solar systems calculations and physical properties and laws and applying it to the questions we have about the atomic level.
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I believe it. Interesting study.
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I believe it. Interesting study.
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
These topics have been discussed alot, but quite naturally it is to my understanding that the planetary systems are the same physics as atoms.

I think they can answer alot of questions about atoms by simply taking our own solar systems calculations and physical properties and laws and applying it to the questions we have about the atomic level.
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As above, so below.
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thats dumb and heres why

atoms can have more than a hundred electrons valance electrons are the ones at the very end its just a coincidence
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
so then what element is our solar system.
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
Don't the basic physics principles apply?
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so then what element is our solar system.
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I'm not sure, good question though with an answer somewhere.

Modern physics hasn't put into account sub orbits like moons.

I'm sure electrons have orbits on them.
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Quite interestingly, an atom with 8 valence electrons or shall we say a solar system with 8 planets, is the most stable.
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so then what element is our solar system.
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I'm not sure, good question though with an answer somewhere.

Modern physics hasn't put into account sub orbits like moons.

I'm sure electrons have orbits on them.
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We could possibly be part of a Ne (neon) atom.
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Check this out,OP.>>>> [link to www.smphillips.8m.com]
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
These topics have been discussed alot, but quite naturally it is to my understanding that the planetary systems are the same physics as atoms.

I think they can answer alot of questions about atoms by simply taking our own solar systems calculations and physical properties and laws and applying it to the questions we have about the atomic level.
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As above, so below.
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
so then what element is our solar system.
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I'm not sure, good question though with an answer somewhere.

Modern physics hasn't put into account sub orbits like moons.

I'm sure electrons have orbits on them.
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ive thought about this similarity between the solar system and an atom structure for a long time.

however it seems that there would be too many random deviations such as black holes and other oddly shaped solar systems not typical of the structure of an atom.
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
These examples of eight-fold patterns at work in Nature determining the chemical properties of atoms and the interactions of superstrings arise because the cyclic process that renews and exhausts all possibilities — either physical (electron shells, barons and mesons) or mathematical (eight octonions, eight-dimensional E8) — requires eight steps. The space-time predicted by superstring theory has eight dimensions perpendicular to any given direction that superstrings may move along. These comprise two large-scale dimensions of the space that is familiar to us and six dimensions of a hidden, curled-up space. This 2:6 division corresponds in music to the beginning (tonic) and end (octave) of the eight-note diatonic scale and the six notes spread between them. In the atom it corresponds to the two electrons occupying the S orbital and the six electrons in the three P orbitals of the valence shell that together determine the chemistry of elements other than the rare earths.

In view of these examples, it should not come as a surprise that an eight-fold pattern exists in the planets of the Solar System. In fact, it was encountered in Section 1, where Table 1 shows that the Titius-Bode Law is obeyed by the first eight planets (including the Asteroid Belt, which is the remnant of a planet that failed to form) but breaks down for the next two planets. As next explained, this is because, like musical tones repeated on higher octaves, Neptune and Pluto belong to another octet governed by the same principle forming the planets up to Uranus. They obey a re-scaled version of the Titius- Bode Law appropriate to this new octet, Uranus acting as the tonic of a new octave.
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Check this out,OP.>>>> [link to www.smphillips.8m.com]
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neat stuff! i will dig into that tomorrow
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
so then what element is our solar system.
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I'm not sure, good question though with an answer somewhere.

Modern physics hasn't put into account sub orbits like moons.

I'm sure electrons have orbits on them.
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ive thought about this similarity between the solar system and an atom structure for a long time.

however it seems that there would be too many random deviations such as black holes and other oddly shaped solar systems not typical of the structure of an atom.
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oh come on now! clearly chemistry can't account for such things so easily.

If we go further into this, and look at molecules, take an astrological sign and match it to a molecules layout.
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Check this out,OP.>>>> [link to www.smphillips.8m.com]
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neat stuff! i will dig into that tomorrow
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it is neat, and explains your query.
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Check this out,OP.>>>> [link to www.smphillips.8m.com]
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neat stuff! i will dig into that tomorrow
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Where planets make up a solar system, electrons make up an atom.

Where solar systems make up a galaxy, atoms make up a molecule.

Where galaxies make up a universe, molecules make cells or living things.
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Check this out,OP.>>>> [link to www.smphillips.8m.com]
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neat stuff! i will dig into that tomorrow
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Where planets make up a solar system, electrons make up an atom.

Where solar systems make up a galaxy, atoms make up a molecule.

Where galaxies make up a universe, molecules make cells or living things.
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Quite literally a verse could relate to music, uni meaning it acting together as one, hence the coralation to a cell working as one from what it is essentially built from.
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
thats dumb and heres why

atoms can have more than a hundred electrons valance electrons are the ones at the very end its just a coincidence
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But valence electrons are the ones that count because they're the ones involved in bonding, so it is kind of cool!
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
I bet quite literally, with a determination, could actually perceive the stellar bodies above and around us to predict quite clearly as to what it is, the actual atom, molecule and possibly cell and species..

How insignificant we are, literally... just like 'Horton Hears A Who?'.
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I bet quite literally, with a determination, could actually perceive the stellar bodies above and around us to predict quite clearly as to what it is, the actual atom, molecule and possibly cell and species..

How insignificant we are, literally... just like 'Horton Hears A Who?'.
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all and yet nothing ~hf
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
These topics have been discussed alot, but quite naturally it is to my understanding that the planetary systems are the same physics as atoms.

I think they can answer alot of questions about atoms by simply taking our own solar systems calculations and physical properties and laws and applying it to the questions we have about the atomic level.
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Yes...

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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
electrons dont "orbit" anything
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
Unless you count pluto.... Then we have 7 valence electrons... Doesn't change much except we are unstable and missing a planet (atom) to complete our valence... Nibiru maybe?....
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
These topics have been discussed alot, but quite naturally it is to my understanding that the planetary systems are the same physics as atoms.

I think they can answer alot of questions about atoms by simply taking our own solar systems calculations and physical properties and laws and applying it to the questions we have about the atomic level.
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not even close. do you seriously think the electrons all orbit on the same plane?. You have objects reacting to electrostatic forces and want to compare macro objects reacting to gravity as equivalents?
Don't know what you been smoking but shit that good is supposed to be shared dufus.
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
Canadian lowest level !!

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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
thats dumb and heres why

atoms can have more than a hundred electrons valance electrons are the ones at the very end its just a coincidence
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But valence electrons are the ones that count because they're the ones involved in bonding, so it is kind of cool!
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count or not as long as we dont have like 200+ electrons im pretty sure we could say o hey :O! an atom can hold X amount of electrons and we happen to have X amount of electrons too!!!
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electrons dont "orbit" anything
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This.
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Re: Our solar system has 8 planets; chemistry says an atom can only support 8 valence orbits.
Mercury should be classified as a Moon. It looks just like any moon in the Solar System.

That will give us 8.

If Pluto can be downgraded, then so can Mercury.
What happened to my beloved GLP????.
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Chemistry says a Canadian can only support one stupid pin thread !!

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