Why Go to Church?

They are NOT demanding money. You CHOOSE to give.

Pretty obvious you have a hate church agenda.

If it makes them feel good,...let em be.

see? GOD will lead us all to the answers.

Just ask him to do so.

lol i have NO agenda.

I speak what GOD moves me to speak.

pretty abvious you have a judgemental personality like most other "christians"
abandon the thought..."you are wrong and I am right"
abandon the thought "only my church groupp will be saved"
For NO ONE knows the mind of God.

ASK him for guidance....
ASK NOT MAN

Wait, so you think that Jesus is not the only way to heaven?

Uh... hello... do humans create things? Like art? And music? And towers that attempt to reach the heavens like the Tower of Babel? yes, they do. God created all things, but those things create things as well, in turn, because we are made in his image. We are not almighty, nor can we create living things from nothing, but we can give LIFE to ideas and concepts. Just think about a FAD like the pet rock. Someone had the idea. They created it. It came to life through other people. Dawkins (who most of us pray stops spewing nonsense and comes to God) would call this a "meme". I say it is a creation.

God made the angels, then made us in THEIR image "let us make man in our image". He was speaking to the angels when he did this.


Genesis 1:26 -

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness


God doesn't do everything on his own. Just like the President is the Commander in Chief and CONTROLS THE ACTIONS OF THE GENERALS, WHO CONTROL THE ACTIONS OF THE ARMY, God controls the ACTIONS OF THE ANGELS, WHO IN TURN CONTROL THE ACTIONS OF MEN, etc etc, on down the pyramid.

Genesis 11:7 -

Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.


God didn't do it himself, he had his angels do it (imho), though obviously God could have just said "be confounded" and it would have had the same effect (I believe his is this powerful. I believe, like Jesus said, that ANYTHING is possible with God. I believe we could suddenly start living in REVERSE if God wanted it to be so). However, it clearly states in the Bible that he had aid from, if not issued orders to do the task completely so he could sit back and observe, his angels.


Bible: 1 You: 0

John 14:6

Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me.


..... was that a serious question?

heaven will come here.....


21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

100% correct. he created the angels first...then they all in turn created us.


Here is something to think about.


They came here in the flesh.
SO MUCH flesh in fact that they had sex with human women and had hybrid offspring.
If they are physical in nature...then they came from a physical location.

If these words are to be taken as they appear after years of translation and interpretation - then they clash with Jesus saying to pray to the Father directly and NOT through Him! So obviously they mean something else...............like - "I am the way the truth and the life" In other words the example or pattern! This is the way to the Father by developing and maturing in the same nature that existed in and WAS/IS Jesus the Christ.

Midsummer Nights Dream and Hamlet. Hmmm, I'll have to take another look at Othello to see what draws you to it.

can't forget Julius Caesar, Top 3. Okay, go back to talking amongst yourselves..lol

its about a black man of course. the classic underdog scenario. I am NOT black BTW just found it interesting to be the first with a black man as a lead character.

We've been here thousands of years and only discovered germs in the 1800's. I believe in the tranformation of metaphysical to physical, just think we don't understand it yet. When Jesus came back for 40 days, he had already DIED.

Acts 4:12. “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”

I Corinthians 3:11. “For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.”

yeah, I remember now, I was thinking of King Lear. I walked out of a production of Titus Adronicus in the West End once cuz it was theater in the round and the actress crawled in front of me leaving a trail of blood. LOL I was tired and had an upset stomach beforehand. Walked out of the front row. That was royal. ROFL

k then there is the two angels that told lot and his family to flee...
they were beautifull...so much so in fact that the people in the town wanted to have sex with them ans assaulted lots home.
Physical in nature.
Then there was the angel who wrestled with (i cant remember now)(it is late) and dislocated his hip.
They wrestled all night.....
Physical in nature.
Then there are the accounts of "celestial chariots"
Physical vehicles.
They are physical in nature.
WE were made in THEIR image.
WE look alot like THEM.

this is all just food for thought people.
Do whatever GOD tells you to do.
If he tells you to go to church then do so.
My point is simply this.....



PRAY and ASK him yourself.
Then SIT STILL, meditate and listen for an answer.

You do NOT need a church in order to do this.


GOD has led me to all these things by simple meditation on his word.

I didnt need a preacher or pastor to learn these things.
GOD led me to them.

I have to go to bed now.

It has been a pleasure speaking with all of you.
I love you all and wish peace love and rich blessings to you.
gnite!!!

... What are you talking about. Jesus is the New Covenant. The final sacrifice God required. All of humanity is not saved through faith in God, all of humanity is saved through faith that JESUS CHRIST was SENT by God to DIE for you. Because he lived a perfect sinless life, we can be forgiven of our sins, and are no longer bound by the laws of sin or death, and can have everlasting life. God gave him, and him alone the authority to forgive all men and women of their sins (except for blasphemy against the holy spirit). Period. Of course you pray to the father, and of course you are supposed to be Christ-like. But without faith in Jesus , all of your praying is for naught, because HE is the only MAN that ever lived that never sinned, EVER, and that God gave the power to forgive sins, and God wants you to believe on HIS SON.

If God wanted you to just pray to him, and forget about Jesus, he wouldn't have sent him. He already sent a bunch of prophets and angels and other messengers to preach repentance and to worship God, but he STILL had to send Jesus, because only Jesus was able to make it through the satanic labyrinth that had become of hte world and not sin ONCE.

Angels are spirits, just like demons are spirits.

Hebrews 1:14

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Uhm... that's a city... and it came out of heaven... nowhere does that say anything about heaven coming here.

Besides:

1 Corinthians 2:9

But as it is written, Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for them that love him.


;)

God NEVER required ANY sacrifice - this was ALL man's doings from the beginning to appease a God they feared! MAN required the sacrifice to appease his own guilt. Christ didn't bring a sacrifice but rather brought to mankind a gift of love.

I said NOTHING about forgetting the Jesus Christ only that HE taught us to pray and relate directly to the Father and NOT through Him. To pray in His name simply means to pray in the Mind and Spirit of Christ, in other words in the same nature that He possessed!

Yeah, and don't let people force you into going to church.

Goodnight A/C. I'll look you up again. I'm in New York but it would be cool to e-mail you somehow.

Because it is easier to brain wash a bunch of idiots.

To get laid?

The evil and violent hang around in gangs..

Like attracts like...we all know that.

So the arrogant and proud tend to hang together too.

Its called church.

Obama Is A Lying Con.



In His 2008 presidential campaign he said he would:

1.) "Cut the U.S. deficit in half within four years."

2.) "Close Guantanimo Prison."

3.) "Unite the Country."

4.) "Have a transparent Presidency."

He is a yapping, lying fool, and he accurately represents his cultural demographic. Lol.

RIGHT ON BROTHER!!!!

99.9% of these places are apostate and keep people spiritually immature. We are called to meet under the authority (name) of Jesus, not man's made-up system.