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Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?

 
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Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
I was reading John last night and I read when John Baptized Jesus he saw a spirit come down from Heaven.

Could this be God's spirit entering the sacred body of Jesus?

Jesus was born of a virgin making his body Holy! From then Jesus was being prepared to receive the spirit of God at the Baptism of Jesus by John..

After his Baptism Jesus performed many miracles..
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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
that is a great question and excellent topic for discussion.
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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
I think Jesus did miracles even before He was baptized. He is also God and divine as well as being human and was so prior to baptism. Thus, I believe the answer is Yes.
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I think Jesus did miracles even before He was baptized. He is also God and divine as well as being human and was so prior to baptism. Thus, I believe the answer is Yes.
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Can you point me to scripture that shows the miracles he performed before his Baptism?

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Manifestation of a self-actualized indwelling adjuster misconstrued as the Holy Spirit.
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Manifestation of a self-actualized indwelling adjuster misconstrued as the Holy Spirit.
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Huh?
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at what age was he actually baptized by john??
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In the gnostic texts he does. He kills a boy out of anger and then resurrects him when he was young.
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In the gnostic texts he does. He kills a boy out of anger and then resurrects him when he was young.
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In the gnostic texts he does. He kills a boy out of anger and then resurrects him when he was young.
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What is the gnostic texts?
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at what age was he actually baptized by john??
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can someone answer this it is important..
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I was reading John last night and I read when John Baptized Jesus he saw a spirit come down from Heaven.

Could this be God's spirit entering the sacred body of Jesus?

Jesus was born of a virgin making his body Holy! From then Jesus was being prepared to receive the spirit of God at the Baptism of Jesus by John..

After his Baptism Jesus performed many miracles..
 Quoting: The Chosen One


Hello OP,

IIRC, scripture gives no record of miracles prior to His baptism.

But scripture does tell us that when The Christ came into the world, he knew who He was/is and what His mission was to be. - (Hebrews 10:5). Scripture is not explicit as to when He knew.

But, IMHO, the baptism by John seems to signify the official start to his earthly ministry.

Was it the Spirit Of God which descended upon Him? Yes, according to scripture, it was The Spirit Of God which descended upon Him - (Matt 3:16).

Regarding His vessel, He was recorded as having said that the flesh profits nothing, rather it is the Spirit which gives life. - (John 6:63).

God Bless OP.

peace,
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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
I was reading John last night and I read when John Baptized Jesus he saw a spirit come down from Heaven.

Could this be God's spirit entering the sacred body of Jesus?


Jesus was born of a virgin making his body Holy! From then Jesus was being prepared to receive the spirit of God at the Baptism of Jesus by John..

After his Baptism Jesus performed many miracles..
 Quoting: The Chosen One


Could just be bullshit...just throwing that in there.
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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
"...What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?..." - John 6:62

[link to godsview.com]

...Where was He before?

One might be inclined to ask themselves Who's Spirit did descend and ascend?

One man might say; "The Spirit Of God"...

But The Christ did not "descend", scripture tells us He was born of a woman, and yet He is speaking of himself (The Son of man) "ascending to where he was before"

So who then descended?

Things for me to ponder.

peace,
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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
I was reading John last night and I read when John Baptized Jesus he saw a spirit come down from Heaven.

Could this be God's spirit entering the sacred body of Jesus?

Jesus was born of a virgin making his body Holy! From then Jesus was being prepared to receive the spirit of God at the Baptism of Jesus by John..

After his Baptism Jesus performed many miracles..
 Quoting: The Chosen One


Good topic, OP. Most will likely debate the exact year of his birth, ministry and death but the greatest range I have ever heard discussed is that he was born 4-6 BC and died in 28-30 AD.

I personally believe he began his ministry around the age of 27 or 28 and of course it only lasted 12-24 months at the very most.

Remember, John the Baptist was his cousin and he and Jesus were conceived only a few months apart. In fact, Mary went to go visit Elizabeth (John's mother) when she found out she was pregnant (probably kept her from being stoned as she wasn't married yet and only about 13).

She didn't know Elizabeth was pregnant before seeing her.

John was born just a couple of months before Jesus.

We don't know much about Jesus life between the time he preached in the temple as a young boy (12-13 perhaps?) and when he approached John to baptize him.

I imagine although he spent much time as a carpenter he pretty much kept to himself in order to study and learn as much as he could to prepare for his ministry. I don't think there would be any need for him to perform miracles before that point.

He already knew he had a very short amount of time on earth once he started teaching so I doubt he wanted much attention on himself.

What I find interesting is how young the Disciples were. I believe the oldest was 19 and the youngest 13 but I could be wrong.

There's an excellent book called "Twelve Ordinary Men" that examines the lives of each of the Disciples and it's an easy and interesting read because they truly WERE just like you or me.

If you like reading John there's a free movie on YouTube called "The Gospel According to John". I've watched it several times now and always enjoy it.

They also have the Gospels according to Luke, Matthew and Mark.

The best scene of the Sermon on the Mount is shown in Matthew.

The movies have the chapter and verse (example: 12:13) as the movies play so you can refer to your bible if you like.

Here is the link to "John". Mozilla has a YouTube down loader so you can download each of the 2 part movie and watch it at your convenience.

The best one to install (SO EASY!) is Easy YouTube Videos Downloader 6.1. You can burn it to disc.

Part 1:



Part 2:


Peace of Christ be with you!

Miggy

PS. Regarding your comment about God entering Jesus body at the moment of Baptism, I personally believe Jesus was born as God in the flesh. I do NOT mean that Jesus and God are the same being. I do not believe Christ would have prayed to Himself, asked Himself why He was abandoning Himself, and taught that the only way we can go to the Father is through Christ.

Why the Catholics believe you can pray to God by going through Mary (although she was of course Holy)is beyond me.

Maybe a Catholic can answer because it's always bugged me.

When he was baptized the bond of Father, Son and Holy Spirit was complete.
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Sorry. Double post.

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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
Jesus was God in the flesh, meaning he was responsible for every miracle recorded in the Bible before he was baptized by John.
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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
I was reading John last night and I read when John Baptized Jesus he saw a spirit come down from Heaven.

Could this be God's spirit entering the sacred body of Jesus?

Jesus was born of a virgin making his body Holy! From then Jesus was being prepared to receive the spirit of God at the Baptism of Jesus by John..

After his Baptism Jesus performed many miracles..
 Quoting: The Chosen One


Hello OP,

IIRC, scripture gives no record of miracles prior to His baptism.

But scripture does tell us that when The Christ came into the world, he knew who He was/is and what His mission was to be. - (Hebrews 10:5). Scripture is not explicit as to when He knew.

But, IMHO, the baptism by John seems to signify the official start to his earthly ministry.

Was it the Spirit Of God which descended upon Him? Yes, according to scripture, it was The Spirit Of God which descended upon Him - (Matt 3:16).

Regarding His vessel, He was recorded as having said that the flesh profits nothing, rather it is the Spirit which gives life. - (John 6:63).

God Bless OP.

peace,
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Welcome back Jay!


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5 stars and a karma pin for you my friend.

1st time I've ever figured out how to do it. Lol.

But you brought up a topic that I've never heard talked about and I belong to a group of Christians that raises up every topic under the sun.

Peace be with you in your studies.

Miggy
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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
John the Baptist and Jesus of Nazareth are cousin. They both went into same classroom (only them two) with a wise teacher.

Read: Jesus and the Essence and They walked with Jesus by Dolores Cannon.

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Scripture is not explicit as to when He knew.

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There is this...


15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.

16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
(Isa 7)



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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
Well he caused a star to appear in the sky when he was born. I would call that a miracle.
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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
In the gnostic texts he does. He kills a boy out of anger and then resurrects him when he was young.
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What is the gnostic texts?
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From gotquestions.org

The Gnostic gospels are writings by early "Christian" Gnostics. After the first century of Christianity,two primary divisions developed - the orthodoxand the Gnostics. The orthodoxChristians held to books we now have in the Bible and to what is today considered orthodoxtheology. The Gnostic Christians,if they can truly be described as Christians,held a distinctly different view of the Bible,of Jesus Christ,of salvation,and of virtually every other major Christian doctrine. However,they did not have any writings by the Apostles to give legitimacy to their beliefs.

That is why and how the Gnostic gospels were created. The Gnostics fraudulently attached the names of famous Christians to their writings,such as the gospel of Thomas,the gospel of Philip,the gospel of Mary,etc. The discovery of the Nag Hammadi library in northern Egypt in 1945 represented a major discovery of Gnostic gospels. These Gnostic gospels are often pointed to as supposed "lost books of the Bible."
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How could he if he never existed?
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Re: Did Jesus Do Miracles Before He was Baptized By John?
at what age was he actually baptized by john??
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can someone answer this it is important..
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Jesus was around thirty when he began his ministry, which lasted for three years, and then he was crucified.
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5 stars and a karma pin for you my friend.

1st time I've ever figured out how to do it. Lol.

But you brought up a topic that I've never heard talked about and I belong to a group of Christians that raises up every topic under the sun.

Peace be with you in your studies.

Miggy
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Thank you!
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How could he if he never existed?
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I guess the historians of that day made him up also? Check the facts.
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