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She said Rose Quartz is calming and relaxing, so how is it wrong for a Christian to use that, Christians don't have a problem with Camomile tea which does the same thing? Then she talks about using it to attract people and at first I thought this to be considered witch-craft (which in a way it could be said to be so) but Christians wear perfume, make-up or even just fix there hair nice if they want to attract someone, so what is the difference?
 Quoting: D'Light


"calming and relaxing"........implies that the state of emotions prior to that was anxiety (or something similar).


As for as anxiety goes, the Scripture says:

"Be anxious for nothing."

This is a command. Therefore every time we become anxious......we are involved in sin.


Wretched sinner that I am......it so easy to fall into anxiety or fear ("Fear not, for I am with you.")


Fear and anxiety can easily come into play in today's crazy world. It is best to catch it quickly.


The Solution from God (not Crystals):


"Be anxious for nothing,

but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving. let your requests be made known to God;"


(In other words, turn whatever is making you anxious completely over to God; put it in His hands; be patient; have faith that He will help you)


The result after doing this in faith:


"....and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." (Phil Chp 4)


In Summary:


1. Identify what is making your nervous.

2. Turn it over to God; place it in His hands completely; have faith that He will help you.

3. God's peace will then come upon you.



The above Scripture is intended for those who have already turned their lives over to Christ.....been indwelt by the Spirit.....and are children of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3546862


What about childbirth? Aren't all mothers just a little anxious during that? No matter how strong your faith, it is human nature.
"Imagine no possessions"

"As Above, So Below"

)O(
Rach
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She said Rose Quartz is calming and relaxing, so how is it wrong for a Christian to use that, Christians don't have a problem with Camomile tea which does the same thing? Then she talks about using it to attract people and at first I thought this to be considered witch-craft (which in a way it could be said to be so) but Christians wear perfume, make-up or even just fix there hair nice if they want to attract someone, so what is the difference?
 Quoting: D'Light


"calming and relaxing"........implies that the state of emotions prior to that was anxiety (or something similar).


As for as anxiety goes, the Scripture says:

"Be anxious for nothing."

This is a command. Therefore every time we become anxious......we are involved in sin.


Wretched sinner that I am......it so easy to fall into anxiety or fear ("Fear not, for I am with you.")


Fear and anxiety can easily come into play in today's crazy world. It is best to catch it quickly.


The Solution from God (not Crystals):


"Be anxious for nothing,

but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving. let your requests be made known to God;"


(In other words, turn whatever is making you anxious completely over to God; put it in His hands; be patient; have faith that He will help you)


The result after doing this in faith:


"....and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." (Phil Chp 4)


In Summary:


1. Identify what is making your nervous.

2. Turn it over to God; place it in His hands completely; have faith that He will help you.

3. God's peace will then come upon you.



The above Scripture is intended for those who have already turned their lives over to Christ.....been indwelt by the Spirit.....and are children of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3546862


[link to vladimirmegre.narod2.ru]

"God is the interplanetary Mind, or Intelligence. He is not to be found in a single mass. Half of Him is in the non-material realm of the Universe. This is the sum total of all energies. The other half of Him is dispersed across the Earth, in every individual, in every Man. The dark forces strive to block these particles.'' SNIP...from Chapter 7, Book 1 of the series.


Here's a snippet from Chapter 11,Book 1..



The seed as physician


Anastasia stated:

"Every seed you plant contains within itself an enormous amount of information about the Universe. Nothing made by human hands can compare with this information either in size or accuracy. Through the help of these data the seed knows the exact time, down to the millisecond, when it is to come alive, grow — what juices it is to take from the Earth, how to make use of the rays of the celestial bodies — the Sun, Moon and stars, what it is to grow into, what fruit to bring forth. These fruits are designed to sustain Man's life. More powerfully and effectively than any manufactured drugs of the present or future, these fruits are capable of counteract­ing and withstanding any disease of the human body. But to this end the seed must know about the human condition. So that during the maturation process it can satiate its fruit with the right correlation of substances to heal a specific individu­al of his disease, if indeed he has it or is prone to it.

"In order for the seed of a cucumber, tomato or any other plant grown in one's plot to have such information, the fol­lowing steps are necessary:
SNIP...


Anastasia speaks about what Jesus,Buddha and all the other teachers who tried teaching those who were willing to listen..

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She said Rose Quartz is calming and relaxing, so how is it wrong for a Christian to use that, Christians don't have a problem with Camomile tea which does the same thing? Then she talks about using it to attract people and at first I thought this to be considered witch-craft (which in a way it could be said to be so) but Christians wear perfume, make-up or even just fix there hair nice if they want to attract someone, so what is the difference?
 Quoting: D'Light


"calming and relaxing"........implies that the state of emotions prior to that was anxiety (or something similar).


As for as anxiety goes, the Scripture says:

"Be anxious for nothing."

This is a command. Therefore every time we become anxious......we are involved in sin.


Wretched sinner that I am......it so easy to fall into anxiety or fear ("Fear not, for I am with you.")


Fear and anxiety can easily come into play in today's crazy world. It is best to catch it quickly.


The Solution from God (not Crystals):


"Be anxious for nothing,

but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving. let your requests be made known to God;"


(In other words, turn whatever is making you anxious completely over to God; put it in His hands; be patient; have faith that He will help you)


The result after doing this in faith:


"....and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." (Phil Chp 4)


In Summary:


1. Identify what is making your nervous.

2. Turn it over to God; place it in His hands completely; have faith that He will help you.

3. God's peace will then come upon you.



The above Scripture is intended for those who have already turned their lives over to Christ.....been indwelt by the Spirit.....and are children of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3546862


Thank you. I needed to hear that verse and it will be helpful, I forget sometimes His pleasant help.

The point I'm making and not to be forgotten is that the Church and Christians get so uptight with the crystals--like the poster S..Indigo said, that the pregnant woman's church made her throw it away seems to be so hypocritical if she was also given one of those shots during pregnancy and they not have a problem with that (just an example). How many Church goers really get irate and preach against crystals but do something else besides call on God to relax? Some listen to music, some guys even work-out (I don't understand this) to relieve anxiety/stress, etc so if you say that a rose quartz is a sin to use to calm, then you must also say that all that I mentioned that people do to calm is also a sin and crystals deserve no more punishment than taking a hot bath to relax and calm down.
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The churches even banished teachings about the elementals..Everything is energy..including crystals.

..Jesus was a Master Essene..hearts

[link to www.thenazareneway.com]

[link to www.essene.com]

[link to www.essene.org]

[link to centeroflightmiracles.wordpress.com]

[link to www.sevenfoldpeace.com]
 Quoting: ~Christine~



Yes. I gave my cousin my rose quartz when she was in labor since I could not be there. Rose quartz for love, calmness, and being that it was mine, it held my energy. Her church made her throw it away because "it was of the devil and it would ruin her life". Seriously? A rose quartz that comes from the earth? I don't understand the logic.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


This is what I mean. It's MEAN. Those same people would have no problem if she asked them to turn on her ipod because there was classical music that would calm her. They would be happy to do that.

This is the root of my question. If crystals are not to be utilized by Christians then basically, if you are not living an Amish lifestyle you are no better than a crystal user.
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She said Rose Quartz is calming and relaxing, so how is it wrong for a Christian to use that, Christians don't have a problem with Camomile tea which does the same thing? Then she talks about using it to attract people and at first I thought this to be considered witch-craft (which in a way it could be said to be so) but Christians wear perfume, make-up or even just fix there hair nice if they want to attract someone, so what is the difference?
 Quoting: D'Light


"calming and relaxing"........implies that the state of emotions prior to that was anxiety (or something similar).


As for as anxiety goes, the Scripture says:

"Be anxious for nothing."

This is a command. Therefore every time we become anxious......we are involved in sin.


Wretched sinner that I am......it so easy to fall into anxiety or fear ("Fear not, for I am with you.")


Fear and anxiety can easily come into play in today's crazy world. It is best to catch it quickly.


The Solution from God (not Crystals):


"Be anxious for nothing,

but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving. let your requests be made known to God;"


(In other words, turn whatever is making you anxious completely over to God; put it in His hands; be patient; have faith that He will help you)


The result after doing this in faith:


"....and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." (Phil Chp 4)


In Summary:


1. Identify what is making your nervous.

2. Turn it over to God; place it in His hands completely; have faith that He will help you.

3. God's peace will then come upon you.



The above Scripture is intended for those who have already turned their lives over to Christ.....been indwelt by the Spirit.....and are children of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3546862


Thank you. I needed to hear that verse and it will be helpful, I forget sometimes His pleasant help.

The point I'm making and not to be forgotten is that the Church and Christians get so uptight with the crystals--like the poster S..Indigo said, that the pregnant woman's church made her throw it away seems to be so hypocritical if she was also given one of those shots during pregnancy and they not have a problem with that (just an example). How many Church goers really get irate and preach against crystals but do something else besides call on God to relax? Some listen to music, some guys even work-out (I don't understand this) to relieve anxiety/stress, etc so if you say that a rose quartz is a sin to use to calm, then you must also say that all that I mentioned that people do to calm is also a sin and crystals deserve no more punishment than taking a hot bath to relax and calm down.
 Quoting: D'Light


well said! D'Light, please read the link I sent on Anastasia..it will open your mind to whole new reality. hearts Gotta go..will check-in tomorrow.

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Neat. I may try that sometime, too.
I also enjoyed your link.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Follow up link in a new PM.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Oh, nice.
I bookmarked it!
Thank you.hf
this is D'Light--quotes messed up
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 Quoting: Chop's


That's 3 hours-LOL.
I may get to it later.
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The churches even banished teachings about the elementals..Everything is energy..including crystals.

..Jesus was a Master Essene..hearts

[link to www.thenazareneway.com]

[link to www.essene.com]

[link to www.essene.org]

[link to centeroflightmiracles.wordpress.com]

[link to www.sevenfoldpeace.com]
 Quoting: ~Christine~



Yes. I gave my cousin my rose quartz when she was in labor since I could not be there. Rose quartz for love, calmness, and being that it was mine, it held my energy. Her church made her throw it away because "it was of the devil and it would ruin her life". Seriously? A rose quartz that comes from the earth? I don't understand the logic.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


This is what I mean. It's MEAN. Those same people would have no problem if she asked them to turn on her ipod because there was classical music that would calm her. They would be happy to do that.

This is the root of my question. If crystals are not to be utilized by Christians then basically, if you are not living an Amish lifestyle you are no better than a crystal user.
 Quoting: D'Light


It is mean. I am sure she threw it away too, and just didn't want to tell me b/c they probably scared the crap out of her. Geez, it was a pretty little pink stone, lol.
"Imagine no possessions"

"As Above, So Below"

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That's a good point OP.


Some people have problems even pin pointing the answer to the initial question......what is it that is making you anxious.?


It is part of our human and flesh nature to easily fall into nervousness, fear, etc. It happens to everyone quite frequently.


I guess the main thing is to catch it quickly......and try to identify the root causes of it.


When you really think about it......anxiety and fear are the opposite of faith. And all of us have lapses of faith at times.


Having a child being born is very stressful.....as well as deaths in the family.....job changes, etc.


But I do know that God can increase His presence and be very close to you during those very difficult moments. He did this for me and my wife during the last six months of her life. She is in paradise now.
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The churches even banished teachings about the elementals..Everything is energy..including crystals.

..Jesus was a Master Essene..hearts

[link to www.thenazareneway.com]

[link to www.essene.com]

[link to www.essene.org]

[link to centeroflightmiracles.wordpress.com]

[link to www.sevenfoldpeace.com]
 Quoting: ~Christine~



Yes. I gave my cousin my rose quartz when she was in labor since I could not be there. Rose quartz for love, calmness, and being that it was mine, it held my energy. Her church made her throw it away because "it was of the devil and it would ruin her life". Seriously? A rose quartz that comes from the earth? I don't understand the logic.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


This is what I mean. It's MEAN. Those same people would have no problem if she asked them to turn on her ipod because there was classical music that would calm her. They would be happy to do that.

This is the root of my question. If crystals are not to be utilized by Christians then basically, if you are not living an Amish lifestyle you are no better than a crystal user.
 Quoting: D'Light


It is mean. I am sure she threw it away too, and just didn't want to tell me b/c they probably scared the crap out of her. Geez, it was a pretty little pink stone, lol.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


Maybe they thought it had witchy intentions on it, since it was a gift BUT I still believe Christians should believe God overcomes anything they feel is "wrong" in that stone. They could have silently prayed him to cleanse it if they had any doubts and I believe there are examples in the Bible where we are given the okay to do certain things that may not go with our religious practices (using the word religious on purpose here) as to not offend another person, such as eating things we normally aren't to eat. Well, this was an example in the OT, we really don't have that law under Christ but the example was set to not offend, especially when someone is doing something with good intentions, like feeding you (or giving you a quartz out of concern/love).
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She said Rose Quartz is calming and relaxing, so how is it wrong for a Christian to use that, Christians don't have a problem with Camomile tea which does the same thing? Then she talks about using it to attract people and at first I thought this to be considered witch-craft (which in a way it could be said to be so) but Christians wear perfume, make-up or even just fix there hair nice if they want to attract someone, so what is the difference?
 Quoting: D'Light


"calming and relaxing"........implies that the state of emotions prior to that was anxiety (or something similar).


As for as anxiety goes, the Scripture says:

"Be anxious for nothing."

This is a command. Therefore every time we become anxious......we are involved in sin.


Wretched sinner that I am......it so easy to fall into anxiety or fear ("Fear not, for I am with you.")


Fear and anxiety can easily come into play in today's crazy world. It is best to catch it quickly.


The Solution from God (not Crystals):


"Be anxious for nothing,

but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving. let your requests be made known to God;"


(In other words, turn whatever is making you anxious completely over to God; put it in His hands; be patient; have faith that He will help you)


The result after doing this in faith:


"....and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." (Phil Chp 4)


In Summary:


1. Identify what is making your nervous.

2. Turn it over to God; place it in His hands completely; have faith that He will help you.

3. God's peace will then come upon you.



The above Scripture is intended for those who have already turned their lives over to Christ.....been indwelt by the Spirit.....and are children of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3546862


Thank you. I needed to hear that verse and it will be helpful, I forget sometimes His pleasant help.

The point I'm making and not to be forgotten is that the Church and Christians get so uptight with the crystals--like the poster S..Indigo said, that the pregnant woman's church made her throw it away seems to be so hypocritical if she was also given one of those shots during pregnancy and they not have a problem with that (just an example). How many Church goers really get irate and preach against crystals but do something else besides call on God to relax? Some listen to music, some guys even work-out (I don't understand this) to relieve anxiety/stress, etc so if you say that a rose quartz is a sin to use to calm, then you must also say that all that I mentioned that people do to calm is also a sin and crystals deserve no more punishment than taking a hot bath to relax and calm down.
 Quoting: D'Light


well said! D'Light, please read the link I sent on Anastasia..it will open your mind to whole new reality. hearts Gotta go..will check-in tomorrow.
 Quoting: ~Christine~


I'll go back and read it. See ya tomorrow.
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That's a good point OP.


Some people have problems even pin pointing the answer to the initial question......what is it that is making you anxious.?


It is part of our human and flesh nature to easily fall into nervousness, fear, etc. It happens to everyone quite frequently.


I guess the main thing is to catch it quickly......and try to identify the root causes of it.


When you really think about it......anxiety and fear are the opposite of faith. And all of us have lapses of faith at times.


Having a child being born is very stressful.....as well as deaths in the family.....job changes, etc.


But I do know that God can increase His presence and be very close to you during those very difficult moments. He did this for me and my wife during the last six months of her life. She is in paradise now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3546862


I'm sorry for your loss.hf
He does seem to be close to us in spiritual ways.
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sor·cer·y (sôrs-r)
n.
Use of supernatural power over others through the assistance of spirits; witchcraft.


You must think of crystals as spirit traps: spirits get caught in the rigid structure of the crystal.

When you use a stone, you actually use the powers of the spirit within that crystal.

That is sorcery, and an abomination to God.

God Hates Crystals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280484


But crystals are used in our electronics and even cell phones. If what you say is true then shouldn't Christians refuse to utilize their cell-phones, watches?
 Quoting: D'Light


True Christians should denounce a whole lot more than just their cellphones.... stuff like possessions etc lol..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280484


Well, this is what I'm saying.

Why do some Christians get all uptight about crystals when they themselves utilize them in a much sinister way every single day. Calling your friend for help over you cell phone could also be considered not taking your help to God and therefore a sin.

This is why we have Jesus. There are a lot of people that will condemn one thing and focus on that but not see what they themselves are doing. I just don't see a problem with crystals if you are not practicing witchcraft. Besides, isn't tv a form of witch-craft?
 Quoting: D'Light


YOUR PURPOSE FOR USING THE CRYSTALS IS THE KEY....

THE PURPOSE IS A SUBSTITUTE FOR JESUS CHRIST...

FOR THE SPACE YOU OCCUPY IS MAINTAINED BY "THE TRUTH"...

OR JESUS CHRIST....

TO POLLUTE THAT SPACE WITH CRYSTALS...

IS TO POLLUTE JESUS CHRIST...

THE GIVER OF LIFE....

BUT ONCE POLLUTED...

ALL THAT IS LEFT IS DEATH....

LOVE YOU ANYWAY....

GRACE AND PEACE AND LOVE TO YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!
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There is not one thing wrong with crystals. God made them and they are beautiful, if they have some healing properties then they can be used that way or as jewelry etc.. What would be wrong is thinking there are spirits in them except for the earth in them. I wouldn't call that a spirit.

Using them for witch craft of any sort, is what is wrong, and God does not like it one bit.

People think some strange things to use in devination, when they could just enjoy the beauty and warmt of them. Rub the crystals and they will be warm, which is carming to feel. No one should be doing devination and witch craft.
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The reason I sidelined the crystal ? is b/c I want people to open they're minds to what Anastasia has to say about GOD, OUR FATHER. The Essenes are a good start,too. Crystals can be used to help in healing..Why do some believe they're evil? Because of "conditioning" all their lives. The bible does have some truth but, it's also been corrupted by tptb throughout the years..Did any of those against crystals even read what one poster said about Gods crystal throne?? Time to wake-up loved ones. hearts

P.S. Jesus is NOT GOD, OUR FATHER. He is his son. Don't confuse the 2.

Daughter hit the nail on the head on her post before mine. eyebat

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Thank you all.

Yes, if you believe spirits are in them or for witch-craft that wouldn't be Biblical.

However, as an energy conductor and for healing I can't find any problem with this. Unless another Christian refuses medicine because of religious beliefs, how can anyone think this is keeping them from Christ when they themselves see a doctor?

Should I mention I also love aromatherapy?!tomato
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God has given us many options such as aromatherapy,crystal therapy/healing,water therapy,healing herbs & frequencies,etc.. There'so many options at our disposal..yet, some refuse to see..so sad.




528 Hz is the miracle frequency for healing and DNA repair. It’s the sound and color of love according to Dr. Horowitz, a Harvard-trained award-winning investigator. Not only hearing but even objects exposed to this frequency can help to open your heart, prompt peace, and hasten healing. "We now know the love signal, 528 Hertz, is among the six core creative frequencies of the universe because math doesn't lie, the geometry of physical reality universally reflects this music; these findings have been independently derived, peer reviewed, and empirically validated," Dr. Horowitz says.SNIP... [link to unhypnotize.com]


THE ESSENES KNEW ABOUT & USED.. Crystal Healing,Sound Healing, Aura Healing & Light Healing..SO, FOR ALL THOSE SAYING JESUS WAS THIS OR THAT..LET'S NOT FORGET HE WAS A MASTER ESSENE & MARY WAS,TOO..Please do your research before saying crystals are "evil." I hoped that some would've researched all this before coming here & saying things like that..I was waiting to see how many knew the "truth" before posting what I know..Good luck on your journies friends. GOD BLESS! hearts

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The bible forbids sorcery, but it never said anything about majick ;)
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"What does the Bible say about magic, magicians, illusionists?"

There is a difference between the magicians spoken of in the Bible and the magicians and illusionists one sees today at parties and in stage show acts. The magicians in the Bible either gained their power from demonic forces or else they were little more than charlatans who pretended to have great knowledge or to discover secrets, tell fortunes, and predict things to come.

The word "magic" is actually used six times in the Bible, three times in the Old Testament and three times in the New Testament. However, the word, "magician(s)" is used 15 times.

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Crystals are a New Age thing. They are used to channel and focus spiritual energies...which is a form of divination. Therefore it is not acceptable to God. Sorry, but there it is.
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Crystals are a New Age thing. They are used to channel and focus spiritual energies...which is a form of divination. Therefore it is not acceptable to God. Sorry, but there it is.
 Quoting: Bizzarro Boy


Any form of prayer is a divination as you are calling and communicating with the Spirit of God. Divination is not the problem - it's which Spirit you are communicating with!!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Question:

What verse in the bible tells us not to utilize crystals?
 Quoting: D'Light


I think the question should be, what do you want to use the crystals for? The intent is always at the root of the matter and that will tell you whether it's good or bad, the intent.

There is nothing wrong with a knife, but if you use it to do wrong, then that's the problem, not the knife but the intent behind the use.
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She said Rose Quartz is calming and relaxing, so how is it wrong for a Christian to use that, Christians don't have a problem with Camomile tea which does the same thing? Then she talks about using it to attract people and at first I thought this to be considered witch-craft (which in a way it could be said to be so) but Christians wear perfume, make-up or even just fix there hair nice if they want to attract someone, so what is the difference?
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Christian women only wear perfume and makeup...cause they are ugly and they smell.
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Question:

What verse in the bible tells us not to utilize crystals?
 Quoting: D'Light


There is no verse..

In effect what you are doing is putting your trust and faith in a piece of rock, you should put your faith and trust in God and Jesus which CAN provide all things necesary.

That would be the same as praying to a false god.
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Isn't a Diamond the ladies best friend or something like that? I heard that phrase for years. Almost every person in the States and elsewhere put on Diamond rings, Gold Rings, Silver Rings etc... Almost every Preacher, I have met has on a Gold Ring with Crystals. We use them daily, yet turn our nose at people who use them for stress relief or pain relief. We are forced to use a paper talisman called the dollar. We are told to use man made medicine instead of finding herbs, crystals, and nature to heal our bodies. Most people continue to call something evil when they have no idea what they are speaking of. Evil is hiding information from the people who have been indoctrinated since birth.

I pray to God and Jesus daily. I thank them for opening my eyes to the lies we are sold from cradle to grave. BTW God created crystals for reason's that we cannot grasp at this time. Everything is light and the Crystal allows the light to be transferred. Each Crystal has a different vibration and are used for certain things. I feel the crystal vibrates at a certain frequency and radiates out.

The Native Americans, Egyptians and whomever was before them had all the real tools to keep the body healthy, while we are told that the real tools are BAD and EVIL. This world is so backwards only God can help us. Actually I feel the energy everyone is talking about is Jesus coming back in the Spirit and creating a consciousness shift. TPTB can not stop this or pin him to a cross.

Peace to allhf
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Does there exist a fundy xian with an IQ over 83? Inquiring minds wish to know
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I think God is more lenient than the Bible anyway
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Almost EVERYTHING we know is made out of crystals - ALL metals are crystalline, glass is crystalline, water is crystalline, wood is crystalline your body is mostly crystalline, in fact anything based on carbon is crystalline!

Are all these things rejected by God?
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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I think God is more lenient than the Bible anyway
 Quoting: MONSTER


Every time God forgives us, He demonstrates that His rules are less important to Him than the relationship He wants to have with each of us.
We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely.
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Crystals are a New Age thing. They are used to channel and focus spiritual energies...which is a form of divination. Therefore it is not acceptable to God. Sorry, but there it is.
 Quoting: Bizzarro Boy


Thank you for sharing your opinion.

I happen to disagree with your thinking that focusing on them is a form of divination (if it is then it's definitely no worse than the radio or tv). I believe because of their structure they are basically amplifiers. So, if I focus on my own thoughts trying to form exactly what I want to improve upon or change then the crystal may help that become clear to me. Then I can take this to Jesus/God in prayer.

I totally believe I can just take anything to God without any man or thing as an intercessor but I do think that some of us have a harder time with focus. I don't see this as divination, sorry.
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Question:

What verse in the bible tells us not to utilize crystals?
 Quoting: D'Light


I think the question should be, what do you want to use the crystals for? The intent is always at the root of the matter and that will tell you whether it's good or bad, the intent.

There is nothing wrong with a knife, but if you use it to do wrong, then that's the problem, not the knife but the intent behind the use.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Agree.

I've never bought the sun, stars and moon showercurtains, etc when all my friends did because TO ME, it didn't feel right, other Christians have no problem with it. Some of those same Christians may have a problem with utilizing crystals and I don't, so I agree, it's what it means to us, individually.





GLP