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As many of you will know I write from time to time about the subject collectively known as "2012", in order to dispel many of the myths and false claims associated with it, and to shed Light on what is really a very serious subject indeed if fully understood and approached in the right way, and one which will increasingly affect us all over the next few years as we will see.

This page will be updated as more knowledge is made available to me, and my own understanding of these crucial and pivotal events, iconically represented by the date December 21 2012 increases. So please do bookmark this page and check back from time to time. This entire 2012 scenario is very much an unfolding event, and exponentially so.

You may read my earlier previous 2012 related articles here: Previous 2012 related articles

As already mentioned, we are already beginning to see and experience the effects of the "2012 phenomena" in many ways, some very subtle, based in consciousness, others much more obvious and dramatic such as climatic extremes and disasters caused by weather extremes, in particular hurricanes, typhoons and foldings.

At the same time it is increasingly important for humanity generally as well as all life on Earth and Earth, Gaia herself, that as many people as possible discover and fully understand the truth about the event collectively known as "2012" and what it means in practical terms.

It has been, and still is my ongoing mission in fact to discover and reveal the absolute truth regarding 2012, and what it means to each of us and life on Earth generally. Knowledge is power, but only if it is the right knowledge based in fact, and for this reason I have been very careful about what I have said on this subject, restricting myself to only writing about those factors that I know and believe to be true based upon my own research inspired from and by within.

Many of you will know from my website that I have rated the possible sources of causality during these transitional times in terms of percentages, and that I have ranked the Galactic Alignment as by far the biggest causal factor.

I now believe the other possible causal factors, including the Sun and "near Earth objects" are actually secondary factors of causation to the primary source of causation - the Galactic Alignment.

We have to keep in Mind that the classic Maya were an extremely advanced race, and not ones given to fantasy or the promulgation of "prophecies", better known as "fortune telling". Central to the classic Mayan culture was an observation of the cosmos, which in turn gave rise to their central philosophies and calendrical systems, of which "2012" is just one small part, forming the basis of just one of their calendars - the Long Count, which takes into account the event that has since come to be known as the "Galactic Alignment". Although this event is central to the issues under discussion, hitherto no one has really explained it in practical and verifiable terms, a situation this article seeks to rectify with the expectation that al of the hype and misinformation out there will fade into the background.

Many people have asked why the "Galactic Alignment" is such an important event in the context of life on Earth, and therefore today we will examine this complex but extremely important issue in greater depth.

The first question we must ask ourselves is "what exactly is the Galactic Alignment" or at least how may we best define it?

In the broadest terms, the Galactic Alignment has been defined as the alignment of the December solstice sun with the Galactic equator due to the precession of the equinoxes.

Precession is caused by the earth wobbling very slowly on its axis shifting the position of the equinoxes and solstices one degree every 71.5 years. Because the sun is one-half of a degree wide, it will take the December solstice sun 36 years to precess through the Galactic equator. As we will see however, this event in and of itself is symbolic of, and a metaphor of a much greater but related event.

It is this event, which is cyclical, that is to say occurs with immutable frequency, that the Maya were measuring in the context of their "Long Count" calendar that famously "ends" on the now iconic date if 21 December 2012.

However, I am now of the firm belief that this is a convenient but highly appropriate and accurate symbolic marker for a much greater and more important event that is taking place over a number of years before, during and after 21 December 2012.

The Maya used the Sun to reference the central point of our solar system, and one that can be used in conjunction with Earth and the plane of the Galactic Centre to describe the "Galactic Alignment", which, according to the Maya, will take place on 21 December 2012, and used as the focal point for both their Long Count Calendar representing the transition from one great "age" to the next".

In fact the Sun, in and of itself is somewhat superfluous to this metaphor as we will see later. That said, it is clear that the Sun will actually participate in this process as will all planets in our solar system, and will likely participate, as it is indeed doing right now, on any resultant causation experienced by Earth and all life on Earth.

Another important feature of Mayan philosophy is that time, rather than being linear in nature as currently believed by science, is rather spherical, and therefore time, like the Universe itself has a beginning and an end. At the end of a cycle of time however, there is a renewal or evolutionary event. Again this forms the basis of the Mayan Long Count Calendar which has proven to be extremely accurate. This cycle of time ends, according to the Mayan Long Count Calendar on 21 December 2012.

I have said this before and I will say it again - the Maya were one of the most brilliant and truly advanced races ever to have walked the planet, if not the greatest. Their abilities in Astronomy, Cosmology, Physics, Astrophysics and Math were far in advances of anything seem today, notwithstanding all of the technology being deployed. The Maya have been right all along, and for good reason.

In view of all of the myth, speculation and sensationalism surrounding 2012, and the ongoing and escalating observable events that are increasingly taking place, I believe the time has come to take a very close look at what is actually going on that we may understand and prepare better for what may be to come, while dispelling all of the myths, mis-information and sensationalism that currently and dangerously abound.

2012 is not a "prophecy" and never was a "prophecy" it is rather a prediction deeply based in fact, one that can be measured and indeed was measured by the Mayans, verified and equated to past significant events in Earth's history.

Please note that I say "may be to come". The truth is no one, including myself knows for sure what will happen over the next few years, if anything at all, but we can look at the facts and the precedents at least in order to become properly informed and thereby prepared, and also dispel all that which is not true but could become true as self fulfilling events under the influence of Mind and Consciousness.

I am not almost certain that there will be no single event ocurring on 21 December 2012, which, as mentioned above, is simply a convenient symbolic representation of a much greater event that is already taking place. So, assuming we are still here, I suggest that you do not cancel your appointments for 22 December 2012, because if all goes as it should do you will be attending those appointments.

With those caveats duly stated, let us then look now at the facts relating to the "Galactic Alignment", what it really is and means, and how it can affect us at every level, Mind, Soul and body, as well as all life on Earth and planetary Spirit Gaia, to Whom we are inexorably connected, Herself.

At the very centre of our Galaxy there is what astrophysicists call a "super-massive black hole". The Energy and density of this super-massive black hole is so great that not even light itself can escape, photons of light being sucked into the black hole along with everything else that approaches it including stars and planets.

This is why it is called a "black hole", because light itself no longer exists in that region having been subsumed by the massive Energy vortex of the super-massive black hole.

Now this super-massive black hole is absolutely fundamental to the entire issue of 2012 and what we are and will increasingly continue to experience, and here are reasons why.

The gravitational Energy and therefore spin rate of the super-massive black hole is so immense that it actually flattens out to form a "super-massive black hole plane", like a massive, intensely dense disk, characterised by an immense outwardly radiating Energy vortex. It is this planar characteristic of the black hole due to the gravitational Energy being radiated out from the super-massive black hole that gives rise to the very "flat" appearance of galaxies generally, all of which I believe have a super-massive black hole at their centre. I am personally of the view that a black hole and associated dark matter may be the precursor of a galaxy. There are probably countless other younger black holes with associated dark matter in the Universe that have not yet began to form its own constellation of stars and later planets and moons, each with the so called "dark matter" forming the fabric of the galaxy, which, together with the gravitational Energy of the super-massive black hole and associated cosmic material, forms and then binds the galaxy together.

In absolute terms a galaxy, including our own galaxy, the Milky Way, is extremely, amazingly in fact thin. When viewed edge on it could be likened comparatively to viewing the blade of an extremely thin and sharp blade. In practice of course this plane of the galaxy is still a huge distance across, but still comparatively speaking, taking into account the vast scales involved, the Galactic Plane is extremely thin.

So we have our galaxy, at the centre of which is a super-massive black hole manifesting an inconceivably massive gravitational Energy vortex that, together with dark matter, holds together as well as influences the fabric of our galaxy, of which we, on Earth are on the outer edge of a spiral arm.

As this black hole gravitational super-Energy extends to the very edges of the galaxy - it must do to hold the form of the galaxy together including our solar system on the outer edge, just as the gravitational pull of the Sun extends far enough to hold the planets of our solar system in orbit or planets in turn hold their moons in orbit - it is all relative to scale, range and the gravitational Energy potential being manifested.

So this Energetic influence of the super-massive black hole over the galaxy, our Sun, the Solar system and of course Earth always exists - there was never a time when it did not exist. The only factor that varies is the degree of Energy being exerted over the solar system and therefore Earth at any one time - and therein is the crux of the matter, and the very key that unlocks the mystery of 2012 as we will see later in this article.

The Maya may or may not have known of the super-massive black hole, or of the physics relating to it, but they would have definitely known about Galactic Centre and the dark rift, or "nuclear bulge" at the centre of the Galaxy which they symbolised through a mythical entity known as "Xilbalba", also mythically representing the "underworld" and the process of death and re-birth which of course is directly relevant to everything related to 2012 and the transition process. The Maya also certainly knew about the Energy and other forces originating from Galactic Center, which featured prominently in their creation myths and deities, including their chief deity, Hunab Ku, believing these forces at Galactic Centre to be the origin of time and therefore the controller of time.

The Maya are a shamanic culture who made extensive use of Mind-expanding substances known as “entheogens” in order to attain altered states of Consciousness, enabling access to the inner realms of life. Although many entheogens are hallucinatory in nature, there are classes of entheogens that can apparently bring about genuine inner experiences, and which were known to and used by the Maya and many other ancient civilisations. One such class of entheogens belongs to a group of chemical compounds known as the “Dimethyltryptamines”, of which there are various derivatives and chemical variations including N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT), 5-Methoxy-N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT) and 5-Hydroxy-N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (5-OH-DMT) known as “bufotenine” due, being extracted from the skin of toads of genus “Bufo”. Through these shamanic practices, the Maya Shamans would have unquestionably been able to gain access to the central Sources of the collective knowledge and events of the Universe, in all spheres of life and reality, existing as Energy mysticaly known as "The Akashic Record". There is no information relative to the "past", present" or probable "future" of the earth, as existing as quantum potential, that the Maya would not have has access to.

In addition, through a projection of consciousness known in occult terms as "Mental Projection", the Maya Smana would have been able to instantly project him/herself to the physical centre of the Galaxy in order to observe the events there. As Mental projection takes place beyond the Energy of the physical Universe, and is not therefore subject to physical factors such as the massive gravitational potential of the super-massive black hole, the Maya Shaman could easily observe the events manifesting there. Although I am speculating with this next suggestion, I believe it possible that the Maya Shaman would use the nuclear bulge, or Xilbalba as the necessary point of reference to project to these distant events with precision.

The Maya also knew about the Precession of the Equinoxes and therefore the relative position of Earth relative to other cosmological and astrological entities, including Galactic Centre, and which gives rise to what the Maya, and numerous other cultures know as "ages".

In the west we know these "ages" in terms of the signs of the zodiac. We are currently in the age of Pisces, the fish, and are entering the Age of Aquarius, the water bearer. In astro-theological terms this is why Jesus is always associated with "fish", and indeed why the mitre of the Pope is a metaphor for the head of a fish.

We should also note that in the Bible, Jesus, represented by fish,
says:

"Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the age".
--Matthew 28:20.

The "age" being referred to is the age of Pisces the fish.

Jesus also said:

"And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in". -- Luke 22:10

This is a metaphor for the sign of Aquarius the water bearer. Jesus is saying that when we enter the "city" a metaphor for the next age, we will be "meeting" the new age of Aquarius", represented by the water bearer.

So back to Galactic Centre and the end of the age.
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Very interesting.
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Yes!

This is the GOOD stuff right here.

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This is the best summary to what this whole December 21, 2012 stuff is about. The problem is, I keep reading a lot of different views to where earth is relative to the galactic plane. I have read that we we will cross it by the latest the year 2015 and I also have read that we are 70 light years away and that we won't cross it for another 30 million years! There seems to be no correct answer. Everything about our position in the milky way seems to be biased. I guess we will truly never know until it happens.

One thing is for certain, Mayans were related to Egyptians. They all got their knowledge from the same source. It would be COMPLETELY IGNORANT to just push aside December 21, 2012 as just some BS. We are talking about the people that built the pyramids of giza for god sakes.
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omni-dimensional multi-universal alignment up the central axis channel - your sushumna/spine; with the 144,000 faceted core at it's central axis; ie the entirety that is.

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i'm interested in learning more about these ages...

what age were we in 4000 years ago?

it seems like every ~2000 yrs we switch into a new age. moving into Aquarius from Pisces... this means we are going backwards in the zodiac wheel correct? does anybody know why this is?

and this being the case we should move through Aquarius and emerge into Capricorn in another 2000 years.

such interesting stuff five ***** op!
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OP-Do you think that something will happen to only certain people,and then maybe they will lead us into a new age?
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I've read a lot about 2012 and Ascension. I try to keep an open mind but, that said, I find nothing credible about it.

When have channeling or drugs ever given us an objective, hard, useful scientific breakthrough? Free energy? A cure for cancer? The end of aging?

The Mayans were primitive, not advanced. They had no meaningful technology and vanished as a civilization.

Galactic alignment? So what? Even if it is associated with periods of evolution in the past, that evolution took 1000's or millions of years.

And there's nothing kind or spiritual about evolution: it just is. That's why we have alligators and parasites.

Anytime somebody comes up with a hard test of anything to do with Ascension/2012, nothing happens. No cabal arrests, no free energy, no disclosure.

Give me something hard, concrete, solid in the way of evidence. I'm looking to believe but nothing I see is anything more than dreams.
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We passed through the Galactic Plane around 3 Million Years ago. You won't see another Galactic 'Alignment' for another 30 Million years or so.



Will Earth pass through the galactic plane in 2012? - "Scientific studies indicate that the solar system lies several dozen light-years north of the galactic plane. What's more, we are continuing to travel northward, away from the plane of our Milky Way galaxy, at some 7 kilometers per second. Therefore, we won't be physically passing through the galactic plane in 2012 or anytime in the near future." [link to earthsky.org]

2012 phenomenon - Other alignments: "Evidence shows that the Sun passed through the plane bisecting the galactic disc only three million years ago and is now moving farther above it..." [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Sun's motion perpendicular to the galactic plane: [link to www.nature.com]
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I've read a lot about 2012 and Ascension. I try to keep an open mind but, that said, I find nothing credible about it.

When have channeling or drugs ever given us an objective, hard, useful scientific breakthrough? Free energy? A cure for cancer? The end of aging?

The Mayans were primitive, not advanced. They had no meaningful technology and vanished as a civilization.

Galactic alignment? So what? Even if it is associated with periods of evolution in the past, that evolution took 1000's or millions of years.

And there's nothing kind or spiritual about evolution: it just is. That's why we have alligators and parasites.

Anytime somebody comes up with a hard test of anything to do with Ascension/2012, nothing happens. No cabal arrests, no free energy, no disclosure.

Give me something hard, concrete, solid in the way of evidence. I'm looking to believe but nothing I see is anything more than dreams.
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tesla claimed to be in contact with et's/interdimensional beings and he had a breakthrough or two. free energy devices exist and are suppressed.

cancer is due to an acidic body environment and nutritional deficiency, with the odd case of genetic mutation, radioactivity.

mayans were primitive? really? they had a calendar and methods to predict astrological events that we're just catching up to today. yes they vanished, do you know how? they ascended in a harvest as they foresaw the europeans coming.

and you're right, all you see is a dream. ;)
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Free energy devices are suppressed? I've investigated them for years and have tall stacks of patent copies - and can't find one. I'm also on a blogsite of scientists desparately looking for free energy and trying to make cold fusion practical.

Did Tesla ever claim that ET's gave him info? Did he lose his practical abilities in his later half of life?

The Mayans were primitive. They're gone, died out. Their astrology is interesting but amounts to nothing useful for us today. Whatever knowledge of the future they claimed to have didn't prevent them from dying out.

Again, nothing specific or hardcore.
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Thanks OP....i always read your postings.
Is this one from "our ultimate reality"? Sounds like that fellow.
Always interesting!!!
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Free energy devices are suppressed? I've investigated them for years and have tall stacks of patent copies - and can't find one. I'm also on a blogsite of scientists desparately looking for free energy and trying to make cold fusion practical.

Did Tesla ever claim that ET's gave him info? Did he lose his practical abilities in his later half of life?

The Mayans were primitive. They're gone, died out. Their astrology is interesting but amounts to nothing useful for us today. Whatever knowledge of the future they claimed to have didn't prevent them from dying out.

Again, nothing specific or hardcore.
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They're still there.....their descendants have alot of the info to this day.
It is passed down knowledge....and of course those who originally discovered the info are long gone.....lol!
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I've read a lot about 2012 and Ascension. I try to keep an open mind but, that said, I find nothing credible about it.

When have channeling or drugs ever given us an objective, hard, useful scientific breakthrough? Free energy? A cure for cancer? The end of aging?

The Mayans were primitive, not advanced. They had no meaningful technology and vanished as a civilization.

Galactic alignment? So what? Even if it is associated with periods of evolution in the past, that evolution took 1000's or millions of years.

And there's nothing kind or spiritual about evolution: it just is. That's why we have alligators and parasites.

Anytime somebody comes up with a hard test of anything to do with Ascension/2012, nothing happens. No cabal arrests, no free energy, no disclosure.

Give me something hard, concrete, solid in the way of evidence. I'm looking to believe but nothing I see is anything more than dreams.
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tesla claimed to be in contact with et's/interdimensional beings and he had a breakthrough or two. free energy devices exist and are suppressed.

cancer is due to an acidic body environment and nutritional deficiency, with the odd case of genetic mutation, radioactivity.

mayans were primitive? really? they had a calendar and methods to predict astrological events that we're just catching up to today. yes they vanished, do you know how? they ascended in a harvest as they foresaw the europeans coming.

and you're right, all you see is a dream. ;)
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Yep, we need to wake up. There has been ALIEN contact and CONTRACT with the GOVERNMENTS of the world.

People are being led into a FALSE AGREEMENT over economic stipulation. The world is definitely here.

Time to wake up. ET's are interdimensional, just as the soul is, just as anything higher than a limited three-dimensional view.
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Free energy devices are suppressed? I've investigated them for years and have tall stacks of patent copies - and can't find one. I'm also on a blogsite of scientists desparately looking for free energy and trying to make cold fusion practical.

Did Tesla ever claim that ET's gave him info? Did he lose his practical abilities in his later half of life?

The Mayans were primitive. They're gone, died out. Their astrology is interesting but amounts to nothing useful for us today. Whatever knowledge of the future they claimed to have didn't prevent them from dying out.

Again, nothing specific or hardcore.
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Mayans were connected to Egyptians. Are you saying Egyptians ere primitive???? To build the pyramids of giza with the tools they had required no advance knowledge whatsoever???? Thats hard to do with the technology we got today! The precision, accuracy, earthquake proof, etc. I want you to see the Pyramids of Giza in real life and than give me your opinion again on Mayans. You can't even stick a razor into the cracks of each stone in the pyramids. That is HIGHLY advanced knowledge to do that with sticks and stones(as our history books say).
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i'm interested in learning more about these ages...

what age were we in 4000 years ago?

it seems like every ~2000 yrs we switch into a new age. moving into Aquarius from Pisces... this means we are going backwards in the zodiac wheel correct? does anybody know why this is?

and this being the case we should move through Aquarius and emerge into Capricorn in another 2000 years.

such interesting stuff five ***** op!
 Quoting: CultivatingMass


here you go, it's of similar topic and touches on the answer to your exact question...

[link to www.viewzone.com]
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First of all, good job OP! I like your approach to this matter- you make a very sound impression on me. I`d like to add some information as well (taken from "The Mayan Calendar Explained" by Bruce Scofield) www.onereed.com/articles/mayan_calendar_explained.pdf

On a much vaster scale, the Long Count measures the precession of the equinoxes, a cycle of approximately 25,695 years. One fifth of the average precessional cycle is 5,139 years, very close to the 5,125-year Long Count (which when added up equals to 25,625 years). In Mesoamerican myth, there are five great ages, each one ending with a collapse of some sort. According to some Mesoamerican myths, we are living today in the last years of the fifth and last age, the closure of a cycle of five segments of the precession cycle. Given the simple technology available to them, the ancient Mesoamerican astrologer/astronomers did some amazing work. Not only did they estimate the length of the precession cycle, but they also anchored it with a remarkable alignment, the meeting of the winter solstice with the plane of the Milky Way, the equator-like plane that runs through the center of our galaxy.

This was new for me. There is apparently a very good correlation to the long count and precession (as you pointed out already). When looked at the mythological context (in South American Cultures) we are indeed in the last age at the moment. I made a thread about what happened at the beginning of the long count here:

Thread: >>History repeating itself? What happened at the BEGINNING of the mayan long-count calendar?<<


"At the very centre of our Galaxy there is what astrophysicists call a "super-massive black hole".
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There are some other things I`d like to point out. This might come to a surprise to you, but the theory of "black holes" in standard cosmology is actually quite weak. There has been increasing evidence that we are living in an Electric Universe- a universe not governed by Gravity. You can read up on it here:

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]

[link to www.ptep-online.com]

There is much more to it... I have come to the conclusion that Black holes, Dark Matter etc. are indeed mathematical fictions. The universe can be sufficiently explained when Plasma is taken into account- no "invisilbe stuff" is needed... This does not mean that there isn`t a major influence from the Galactic center, quite the contrary actually.


I have said this before and I will say it again - the Maya were one of the most brilliant and truly advanced races ever to have walked the planet, if not the greatest.
 Quoting: Usacuracao



There is a good possibility that the Mayans actually inherited their calendar and other astronomical knowledge from an earlier civilization.

A quote from Fingerprints of the Gods: "Perhaps [the calendar was] the constituent part of a coherent but very specific body of knowledge that the Maya had inherited, more or less intact, from an older civilization... We already know that the Maya received their calendar as a legacy from the Olmecs (a thousand years earlier the Olmecs were using exactly the same system). The real question, should be, where did the Olmecs get it?"

This seems even more likely when one considers the time it takes to measure and track precession (hundreds if not thousands of years).


Hope this makes some sense ;)
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THANK you my BROTHERS and SISTERS with some Positive Information, The POINT that you said that the MAYAN could have recived that Information and Tools, was also one of my POINTS.

But to see the Bigger Picture I did a research on this FORUM using the search engine application, and i did a SEARCH on " GALACTIC ALIGNMENT" to see how many hits I found?

WELL for my SUPRISE not very MUCH, again why would our GOVERNMENTS and all the rest fdont talk about?
Good QUESTION is it because they are SCARED and FEAR that they will not have POWER over us any more.?

I Always LOVE to find out why things are being done to HIDE the TRUTH.

HAVE a blessed day
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Which objects, or points, will be in alignment?
Presumably the earth will be one object.
The Galactic Centre will be another.
What is the 3rd object or point?
Will there be more than 3 objects or points?

Just asking for clarification.
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06/14/2012 01:45 PM
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Which objects, or points, will be in alignment?
Presumably the earth will be one object.
The Galactic Centre will be another.
What is the 3rd object or point?
Will there be more than 3 objects or points?

Just asking for clarification.
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O nice Question the SUN and ist COMPANION Binary SUN, which has many Names NIBIRU, WORMWOOD, PALNET X, and dmnay other names.

And also dont forget our CORE remember our sun is also HOLLOW. :)
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We passed through the Galactic Plane around 3 Million Years ago. You won't see another Galactic 'Alignment' for another 30 Million years or so.



Will Earth pass through the galactic plane in 2012? - "Scientific studies indicate that the solar system lies several dozen light-years north of the galactic plane. What's more, we are continuing to travel northward, away from the plane of our Milky Way galaxy, at some 7 kilometers per second. Therefore, we won't be physically passing through the galactic plane in 2012 or anytime in the near future." [link to earthsky.org]

2012 phenomenon - Other alignments: "Evidence shows that the Sun passed through the plane bisecting the galactic disc only three million years ago and is now moving farther above it..." [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Sun's motion perpendicular to the galactic plane: [link to www.nature.com]
 Quoting: TBar1984



this type of 'alignment', i.e. passing through galactic plane, is not at all what 2012 is about; rather it is a line-of-sight alignment between earth, the sun and galactic center at completion of app. 26000 year procession cycle resulting from wobble of our planet's axis.

von braun is reliably quoted as saying that the germans were assisted by beings from space in their development of advanced rocketry. tesla ref. is a good one.

mayans claimed that their knowledge was handed down from a very tall, blond, blue eyed, cone headed god from the sky they callled 'kukulkan.' other cultures around the world have similar stories about receipt of advanced knowledge, and cone head skulls have been found and documented, as well as the custom of deforming infant heads in imitation of the gods' appearance, though the former are distinguishable by several indications (lack of external manipulation and superhuman cranial capacity--they held much larger brains).
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We passed through the Galactic Plane around 3 Million Years ago. You won't see another Galactic 'Alignment' for another 30 Million years or so.



Will Earth pass through the galactic plane in 2012? - "Scientific studies indicate that the solar system lies several dozen light-years north of the galactic plane. What's more, we are continuing to travel northward, away from the plane of our Milky Way galaxy, at some 7 kilometers per second. Therefore, we won't be physically passing through the galactic plane in 2012 or anytime in the near future." [link to earthsky.org]

2012 phenomenon - Other alignments: "Evidence shows that the Sun passed through the plane bisecting the galactic disc only three million years ago and is now moving farther above it..." [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Sun's motion perpendicular to the galactic plane: [link to www.nature.com]
 Quoting: TBar1984



this type of 'alignment', i.e. passing through galactic plane, is not at all what 2012 is about; rather it is a line-of-sight alignment between earth, the sun and galactic center at completion of app. 26000 year procession cycle resulting from wobble of our planet's axis.

von braun is reliably quoted as saying that the germans were assisted by beings from space in their development of advanced rocketry. tesla ref. is a good one.

mayans claimed that their knowledge was handed down from a very tall, blond, blue eyed, cone headed god from the sky they callled 'kukulkan.' other cultures around the world have similar stories about receipt of advanced knowledge, and cone head skulls have been found and documented, as well as the custom of deforming infant heads in imitation of the gods' appearance, though the former are distinguishable by several indications (lack of external manipulation and superhuman cranial capacity--they held much larger brains).
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You mean the alignment that happens every year?



I see...
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I've read a lot about 2012 and Ascension. I try to keep an open mind but, that said, I find nothing credible about it.

When have channeling or drugs ever given us an objective, hard, useful scientific breakthrough? Free energy? A cure for cancer? The end of aging?

The Mayans were primitive, not advanced. They had no meaningful technology and vanished as a civilization.

Galactic alignment? So what? Even if it is associated with periods of evolution in the past, that evolution took 1000's or millions of years.

And there's nothing kind or spiritual about evolution: it just is. That's why we have alligators and parasites.

Anytime somebody comes up with a hard test of anything to do with Ascension/2012, nothing happens. No cabal arrests, no free energy, no disclosure.

Give me something hard, concrete, solid in the way of evidence. I'm looking to believe but nothing I see is anything more than dreams.
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tesla claimed to be in contact with et's/interdimensional beings and he had a breakthrough or two. free energy devices exist and are suppressed.

cancer is due to an acidic body environment and nutritional deficiency, with the odd case of genetic mutation, radioactivity.

mayans were primitive? really? they had a calendar and methods to predict astrological events that we're just catching up to today. yes they vanished, do you know how? they ascended in a harvest as they foresaw the europeans coming.

and you're right, all you see is a dream. ;)
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thanks for your cogent response. edgar cayce channeled healers who provided nature-based cures to many 'hopeless' (by standard medical practices) individuals. many others have channeled healers, as does joao de deus in brazil today. results are not always perfect or consistent from one individual to the next, but the fact that much healing energy does come through is undeniable to an unbiased observer.
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Re: Galactic Alignment 2012
We passed through the Galactic Plane around 3 Million Years ago. You won't see another Galactic 'Alignment' for another 30 Million years or so.



Will Earth pass through the galactic plane in 2012? - "Scientific studies indicate that the solar system lies several dozen light-years north of the galactic plane. What's more, we are continuing to travel northward, away from the plane of our Milky Way galaxy, at some 7 kilometers per second. Therefore, we won't be physically passing through the galactic plane in 2012 or anytime in the near future." [link to earthsky.org]

2012 phenomenon - Other alignments: "Evidence shows that the Sun passed through the plane bisecting the galactic disc only three million years ago and is now moving farther above it..." [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Sun's motion perpendicular to the galactic plane: [link to www.nature.com]
 Quoting: TBar1984



this type of 'alignment', i.e. passing through galactic plane, is not at all what 2012 is about; rather it is a line-of-sight alignment between earth, the sun and galactic center at completion of app. 26000 year procession cycle resulting from wobble of our planet's axis.

von braun is reliably quoted as saying that the germans were assisted by beings from space in their development of advanced rocketry. tesla ref. is a good one.

mayans claimed that their knowledge was handed down from a very tall, blond, blue eyed, cone headed god from the sky they callled 'kukulkan.' other cultures around the world have similar stories about receipt of advanced knowledge, and cone head skulls have been found and documented, as well as the custom of deforming infant heads in imitation of the gods' appearance, though the former are distinguishable by several indications (lack of external manipulation and superhuman cranial capacity--they held much larger brains).
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No von Braun said no such thing as that woo woo woman never worked for him.

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