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BREAKING: Jobless Claims Higher than Expected. CPI indicates Deflation

 
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BREAKING: Jobless Claims Higher than Expected. CPI indicates Deflation
BREAKING: Initial jobless claims 386,000 (estimate was 375k)

ALERT: May Consumer Price Index (CPI) down 0.3%. (April was unchanged)


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jobless claims is the key word...only those CLAIMING unemploymet.....Numbers are way more higher.
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Initial Claims Miss Big, People Falling Off Extended Claims Soar To 135K, CPI Plunges Most Since December 2008 [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]
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this, of course, does not bode well for the market....the house of cards is coming down...question: does anyone have any suggestions concerning what stocks or bonds one may invest in betting that inflation is coming and the dollar will devalue?
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Re: BREAKING: Jobless Claims Higher than Expected. CPI indicates Deflation
CPI Falls A WHOPPING 0.3% In May! UPDATE: CPI fell a bigger than expected 0.3 percent in May, surpassing analyst expectations for 0.2 percent.

Excluding food and energy, CPI rose 0.2 percent.

Today's number puts year-over-year inflation at 1.7 percent, well below the Federal Reserve's target 2 percent rate of price growth.

We'll see if this can sway the Federal Open Market Committee to take stronger action when they meet to discuss monetary policy on June 19-20.


Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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this, of course, does not bode well for the market....the house of cards is coming down...question: does anyone have any suggestions concerning what stocks or bonds one may invest in betting that inflation is coming and the dollar will devalue?
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Damn, I hate when my brother-in-law is right...I'd stay with consumer based product related, people will still need wash and eat. PCG and the like.

I'm not happy right now, because this will likely hold down the price of precious metals, unless they continue printing just so people can just manage the basics.

This will no doubt hold this way for the next several years....

I'd invest in some acreage that has growing potential and lease it to farmers, just increase my income flow....
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this, of course, does not bode well for the market....the house of cards is coming down...question: does anyone have any suggestions concerning what stocks or bonds one may invest in betting that inflation is coming and the dollar will devalue?
 Quoting: Elsabiades.. 14021029


Damn, I hate when my brother-in-law is right...I'd stay with consumer based product related, people will still need wash and eat. PCG and the like.

I'm not happy right now, because this will likely hold down the price of precious metals, unless they continue printing just so people can just manage the basics.

This will no doubt hold this way for the next several years....

I'd invest in some acreage that has growing potential and lease it to farmers, just increase my income flow....
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Farmers in Illinois...broke, no money, projected profit way down...be careful...
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so when do i grab my gun and pitchfork?
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Much thanks for another pin!!
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Massachusetts official unemployment rate has dropped to 6%. What state has the lowest unemployment rate?
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Gee, I wish we had a liberal Democrat for a President, then the poor and the unemployed wouldn't have to live in fear of losing everything they've got.
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CPI lower - really? Which Item(s), in the mystical basket of goods has fallen cause I gotta tell you I see no lowering of price for ANYTHING.

Then again, conveniently, they don't count food cost or fuel costs which probably account for at least 33% of peoples spending.

You have to, at some point, come to the realization that EVERYTHING that comes from the government is an attempt at manipulating the public's opinion, in essence a lie.
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BREAKING: Initial jobless claims 386,000 (estimate was 375k)

ALERT: May Consumer Price Index (CPI) down 0.3%. (April was unchanged)


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That is a distortion. The Inflation rate for the year is over Two Percent.
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CPI lower - really? Which Item(s), in the mystical basket of goods has fallen cause I gotta tell you I see no lowering of price for ANYTHING.

Then again, conveniently, they don't count food cost or fuel costs which probably account for at least 33% of peoples spending.

You have to, at some point, come to the realization that EVERYTHING that comes from the government is an attempt at manipulating the public's opinion, in essence a lie.
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They do not count food or fuel for the CORE CPI, but that is not what is used for the actual CPI.
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this, of course, does not bode well for the market....the house of cards is coming down...question: does anyone have any suggestions concerning what stocks or bonds one may invest in betting that inflation is coming and the dollar will devalue?
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I'd look at energy stocks. Of course, precious metals, ammo, and food are good investments as well.
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this, of course, does not bode well for the market....the house of cards is coming down...question: does anyone have any suggestions concerning what stocks or bonds one may invest in betting that inflation is coming and the dollar will devalue?
 Quoting: Elsabiades.. 14021029


Utility Companies are usually a safe bet in a sour market.

Typically yielding 2%-5% divendends, plus any price increases.
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Re: BREAKING: Jobless Claims Higher than Expected. CPI indicates Deflation
Massachusetts official unemployment rate has dropped to 6%. What state has the lowest unemployment rate?
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Here's a breakdown by state (April 2012 values):

[link to www.bls.gov]

The numbers for May 2012 will be released tomorrow (6-15-2012).
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CPI lower - really? Which Item(s), in the mystical basket of goods has fallen cause I gotta tell you I see no lowering of price for ANYTHING.

Then again, conveniently, they don't count food cost or fuel costs which probably account for at least 33% of peoples spending.

You have to, at some point, come to the realization that EVERYTHING that comes from the government is an attempt at manipulating the public's opinion, in essence a lie.
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They do not count food or fuel for the CORE CPI, but that is not what is used for the actual CPI.
 Quoting: Horst 16674316


Core CPI, actual CPI .....

More government doublespeak which is very strong clue that it is all bullshit designed to manipulate.

My original premise holds: they are ALL lying mother fuckers who belong in prison not running a country.
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BREAKING: Initial jobless claims 386,000 (estimate was 375k)

ALERT: May Consumer Price Index (CPI) down 0.3%. (April was unchanged)


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 Quoting: DoorBert


UNEXPECTEDLY UNEXPECTED!!
EVERYBODY DRINK!!!
Jobless claims revised UP 65 of the last 66 weeks.

So, how's all that Hopey-Changey bullschit workin' out for ya now?
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Massachusetts official unemployment rate has dropped to 6%. What state has the lowest unemployment rate?
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North Dakota...
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BREAKING: Initial jobless claims 386,000 (estimate was 375k)

ALERT: May Consumer Price Index (CPI) down 0.3%. (April was unchanged)


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 Quoting: DoorBert


UNEXPECTEDLY UNEXPECTED!!
EVERYBODY DRINK!!!
Jobless claims revised UP 65 of the last 66 weeks.

So, how's all that Hopey-Changey bullschit workin' out for ya now?
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LOL, yep and the "new accounting" method used to keep the sheeple from seeing the real totals should be illegal.
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CPI lower - really? Which Item(s), in the mystical basket of goods has fallen cause I gotta tell you I see no lowering of price for ANYTHING.

Then again, conveniently, they don't count food cost or fuel costs which probably account for at least 33% of peoples spending.

You have to, at some point, come to the realization that EVERYTHING that comes from the government is an attempt at manipulating the public's opinion, in essence a lie.
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Yet the market sceams higher !!!!!!!! +125 points right now
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At the end of this yr expect to see hyperinflation to go up to 100%. PPL are so fucked. Just fuck it. Let the banks and the whole damn thing crash once and for all. Where's that damn reset button when you need it?
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Yet the market sceams higher !!!!!!!! +125 points right now
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All because of the pull out of the euro zone and sketchy propping up of energy stocks. With the Euro going up ever so slightly it's a good time to get out before next week’s announcements.
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Yet the market sceams higher !!!!!!!! +125 points right now
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Todays rumour is the Fed will save the day again nest Wednesday in its meeting its a hopium rally.
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this, of course, does not bode well for the market....the house of cards is coming down...question: does anyone have any suggestions concerning what stocks or bonds one may invest in betting that inflation is coming and the dollar will devalue?
 Quoting: Elsabiades.. 14021029


Damn, I hate when my brother-in-law is right...I'd stay with consumer based product related, people will still need wash and eat. PCG and the like.

I'm not happy right now, because this will likely hold down the price of precious metals, unless they continue printing just so people can just manage the basics.

This will no doubt hold this way for the next several years....

I'd invest in some acreage that has growing potential and lease it to farmers, just increase my income flow....
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Farmers in Illinois...broke, no money, projected profit way down...be careful...
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That ain't farming

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BREAKING: Initial jobless claims 386,000 (estimate was 375k)

ALERT: May Consumer Price Index (CPI) down 0.3%. (April was unchanged)


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 Quoting: DoorBert


let me explain something about all the false numbers!

you got to have a job to get unemployment....there aint no jobs...college grads and high scholl grads are trying to get a kfc or pizza hut job

i heard there are 100,000,000 thats 100 million people out of work in Amerika
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RBC'S CASSIDY: POSSIBLE MOODY'S COULD CUT JPMORGAN MORE THAN 2 LEVELS
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RBC'S CASSIDY: POSSIBLE MOODY'S COULD CUT JPMORGAN MORE THAN 2 LEVELS
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JPMorgan did not need the Fed's $25 billion in TARP money. It needed much more [link to bloom.bg]
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This is the final nail in the coffin. They will NOT be able to do QEx (QE3 and beyond) as it will completely destroy the global economy very quickly. Right now we are in a slow bleed off. QEx will launch commods and the markets to the moon and increase unemployment 10 fold...

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