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150 Million Americans That's HALF Are Struggling With Poverty Yet Republicans Won't Spend Domestically.

 
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I am not responsible for your life.

It is that simple.

If I were to become responsible for you life then I should get to control it. Every aspect of it.
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Fuck off to Singapore, you fucktard.

It's that simple.

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Its easy to say cut spending when you have money, but what the Republicans are overlooking is a potential split in America that can have dire consequences.

Half of Americans are poor or facing becoming poor. While publicly people are running around thinking that the OTHER guy is the burden on society, they are going home and facing being two pay checks away from eviction, going hungry in a nice house, or going on Food Stamps and Section8 to keep a rook over their heads and food.

Americans are starting to see who these Republicans and Tea Partyers work for and are waking up. Unfortunately not fast enough though.
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blah blah blah

Only one solution.

Cut taxes massively.

People will have more money in their pockets.


Gubmint wastes money beyond your imagination.


But it ain't gonna happen. Gubmint always grows, never shrinks.


That's why there are revolutions. Wish it didn't have to be that way. But that's what its going to take.
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I like the part in the bible where Jesus said "FUCK THE POOR!" and hoarded all his grain.
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Yea, yea, you libtards always try and use Jesus as an example of socialism.

Wrong..Jesus didn't steal a certain amount from all those who do produce, create a bureaucracy of inept individuals who are bought by foreign interests to mis-spend the majority of the money, then redistribute a tiny fraction of what's left over to those who do not produce.


Jesus was an example of us helping each other without force or government intervention.

So you fail
 Quoting: ***Evan***


Who's stealing what? Money is paper, it only has the value you give it. You are getting robbed regardless of who is in charge when the federal reserve prints money. What do we do with the poor? The poor won't go away, they won't just dig their own grave and sit in it until they finally die. They will fight back like a cornered animal and when that happens the society around you will descend into chaos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793



When did I say that? That we should just dig a grave for em? We all as citizens should help those less fortunate than ourselves. But not at the barrel of a gun from uncle sam.

We have been throwing money at the poverty problem for what..40 years?

How has that worked out?
 Quoting: ***Evan***


It has worked out pretty well, our society is still functional. Take away "entitlements" and the poor will be out on the streets in greater numbers begging, hustling, stealing, and doing whatever it takes to make a living. The prison industry will boom with all your hard earned tax dollars to keep these new criminals locked up.
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Yea, yea, you libtards always try and use Jesus as an example of socialism.

Wrong..Jesus didn't steal a certain amount from all those who do produce, create a bureaucracy of inept individuals who are bought by foreign interests to mis-spend the majority of the money, then redistribute a tiny fraction of what's left over to those who do not produce.


Jesus was an example of us helping each other without force or government intervention.

So you fail
 Quoting: ***Evan***


Who's stealing what? Money is paper, it only has the value you give it. You are getting robbed regardless of who is in charge when the federal reserve prints money. What do we do with the poor? The poor won't go away, they won't just dig their own grave and sit in it until they finally die. They will fight back like a cornered animal and when that happens the society around you will descend into chaos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793



When did I say that? That we should just dig a grave for em? We all as citizens should help those less fortunate than ourselves. But not at the barrel of a gun from uncle sam.

We have been throwing money at the poverty problem for what..40 years?

How has that worked out?
 Quoting: ***Evan***


It has worked out pretty well, our society is still functional. Take away "entitlements" and the poor will be out on the streets in greater numbers begging, hustling, stealing, and doing whatever it takes to make a living. The prison industry will boom with all your hard earned tax dollars to keep these new criminals locked up.
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Well that just proves you're an idiot
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I am not responsible for your life.

It is that simple.

If I were to become responsible for you life then I should get to control it. Every aspect of it.
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Are you your brother's keeper?
 Quoting: dschis1000


Yes, but not at the point of a gun. Which is the way government operates.
 Quoting: s. d. butler



We are the government. You. me, everyone here. Like it or not that's just the way it is, Our fathers and we have put the system in.

If we don't do it voluntarily (not just you or I) it will be at the point of a gun or whatever weapon. That's how we got the Nazis, the Fascists, the Communists, etc. We are not at that point yet, but we're getting there. Why do you think FDR did what he did. The American Nazi and Communist party were making HUGE enroads in the populace.

That's not the only time it's happened either. History is replete with the peasants uprising. It just has to get to breaking point.

Do you like living in this country? If not, leave. Where are you going to go?

I was spouting the same things that you are just a few years. It was taken away and I woke up. I sincerely hope that all of you don't have to go through what I did to get to that point

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The question becomes is it up to the government to take from one group of people so the can spend on another? Perhaps that is the cause of America's current situation. The country seems to have been better off BEFORE the explosion of social programs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215807


That is indeed the question, in fact one of the most important political questions of all, of one the most important differences between republicans and democrats. And I think everyone has their own answer to that question.

Personally, I feel the answer is yes, the government should be able to take from one group to spend on the other, if the other needs it more than the first group. In a perfect world, no one should have their hard earned money taken away from them fr someone else, but in a perfect world, no one would be in poverty and need to take it from someone else. The fact of the matter is, we don't live in a prefect world, and it is unfortunately neccessary for some to give up part of what they have so that others can at least have the basics as well.

I also think it comes down to a basic matter if human compassion to help those less fortunate. I know many do not understand the reality of poor folks, and many think that the poor are simply lazy or fraudulently accept more money than they need, but I have to say, inky personal experience, I have seen several families accept government money that they don't need (fraud), but for the most i have seen that most poor people do need the money, and are also not lazy, but rather hardworking and simply unable to get ahead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775


I like to step back and observe how being "hardworking" is touted as the ultimate moral value for middle and lower class people. For upper class who were born into money it's just the opposite. It's virtuous and morally proper for them in their eyes to not work at all.
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Who's stealing what? Money is paper, it only has the value you give it. You are getting robbed regardless of who is in charge when the federal reserve prints money. What do we do with the poor? The poor won't go away, they won't just dig their own grave and sit in it until they finally die. They will fight back like a cornered animal and when that happens the society around you will descend into chaos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793



When did I say that? That we should just dig a grave for em? We all as citizens should help those less fortunate than ourselves. But not at the barrel of a gun from uncle sam.

We have been throwing money at the poverty problem for what..40 years?

How has that worked out?
 Quoting: ***Evan***


It has worked out pretty well, our society is still functional. Take away "entitlements" and the poor will be out on the streets in greater numbers begging, hustling, stealing, and doing whatever it takes to make a living. The prison industry will boom with all your hard earned tax dollars to keep these new criminals locked up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793


Well that just proves you're an idiot
 Quoting: ***Evan***


You're the idiot. Our population has doubled in the last 40 years and will double again in the next 40. It's amazing how civil our society still is. But go ahead, keep pointing your filthy fingers at the poor. It's all their fault!
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Its easy to say cut spending when you have money, but what the Republicans are overlooking is a potential split in America that can have dire consequences.

Half of Americans are poor or facing becoming poor. While publicly people are running around thinking that the OTHER guy is the burden on society, they are going home and facing being two pay checks away from eviction, going hungry in a nice house, or going on Food Stamps and Section8 to keep a rook over their heads and food.

Americans are starting to see who these Republicans and Tea Partyers work for and are waking up. Unfortunately not fast enough though.
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Blow me Cut the budget you social marxist commie
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When did I say that? That we should just dig a grave for em? We all as citizens should help those less fortunate than ourselves. But not at the barrel of a gun from uncle sam.

We have been throwing money at the poverty problem for what..40 years?

How has that worked out?
 Quoting: ***Evan***


It has worked out pretty well, our society is still functional. Take away "entitlements" and the poor will be out on the streets in greater numbers begging, hustling, stealing, and doing whatever it takes to make a living. The prison industry will boom with all your hard earned tax dollars to keep these new criminals locked up.
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Well that just proves you're an idiot
 Quoting: ***Evan***


You're the idiot. Our population has doubled in the last 40 years and will double again in the next 40. It's amazing how civil our society still is. But go ahead, keep pointing your filthy fingers at the poor. It's all their fault!
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well said.
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do it yourself. it is pathetic that you need a government or someone to wipe your ass. I have been struggling all my life in the middle class. I have my day job and what I do at night on the side. My wife has two jobs that allow her to stay at home with the kids and still bring more money to support our 3 kids.

The government gives you enough money not to help you but to hush you. After a short time, you are institutionalized.

Believe in yourself and no one can stop you...or

die a slave listening to the government tell you what a victim you are.
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The question becomes is it up to the government to take from one group of people so the can spend on another? Perhaps that is the cause of America's current situation. The country seems to have been better off BEFORE the explosion of social programs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215807


That is indeed the question, in fact one of the most important political questions of all, of one the most important differences between republicans and democrats. And I think everyone has their own answer to that question.

Personally, I feel the answer is yes, the government should be able to take from one group to spend on the other, if the other needs it more than the first group. In a perfect world, no one should have their hard earned money taken away from them fr someone else, but in a perfect world, no one would be in poverty and need to take it from someone else. The fact of the matter is, we don't live in a prefect world, and it is unfortunately neccessary for some to give up part of what they have so that others can at least have the basics as well.

I also think it comes down to a basic matter if human compassion to help those less fortunate. I know many do not understand the reality of poor folks, and many think that the poor are simply lazy or fraudulently accept more money than they need, but I have to say, inky personal experience, I have seen several families accept government money that they don't need (fraud), but for the most i have seen that most poor people do need the money, and are also not lazy, but rather hardworking and simply unable to get ahead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775


I like to step back and observe how being "hardworking" is touted as the ultimate moral value for middle and lower class people. For upper class who were born into money it's just the opposite. It's virtuous and morally proper for them in their eyes to not work at all.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT


:yay:
 Quoting: Éireann


I dont understand why the "poor" attempt to use this logic as a way to justify sitting on their asses. People who inherit wealth dont have to work. If you dont already have wealth you have to work to survive. Its that simple. Life isnt fair. Deal with it. Just because the wealthy have the means to sit on their asses does not mean its justifiable for the poor to sit on their asses and leech off of others. The wealthy earned their money. There is a difference between earning something and leeching it. Inherited wealth was still earned even if it wasnt earned by the person who inherited.
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That is indeed the question, in fact one of the most important political questions of all, of one the most important differences between republicans and democrats. And I think everyone has their own answer to that question.

Personally, I feel the answer is yes, the government should be able to take from one group to spend on the other, if the other needs it more than the first group. In a perfect world, no one should have their hard earned money taken away from them fr someone else, but in a perfect world, no one would be in poverty and need to take it from someone else. The fact of the matter is, we don't live in a prefect world, and it is unfortunately neccessary for some to give up part of what they have so that others can at least have the basics as well.

I also think it comes down to a basic matter if human compassion to help those less fortunate. I know many do not understand the reality of poor folks, and many think that the poor are simply lazy or fraudulently accept more money than they need, but I have to say, inky personal experience, I have seen several families accept government money that they don't need (fraud), but for the most i have seen that most poor people do need the money, and are also not lazy, but rather hardworking and simply unable to get ahead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775


I like to step back and observe how being "hardworking" is touted as the ultimate moral value for middle and lower class people. For upper class who were born into money it's just the opposite. It's virtuous and morally proper for them in their eyes to not work at all.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT


yay
 Quoting: Éireann


I dont understand why the "poor" attempt to use this logic as a way to justify sitting on their asses. People who inherit wealth dont have to work. If you dont already have wealth you have to work to survive. Its that simple. Life isnt fair. Deal with it. Just because the wealthy have the means to sit on their asses does not mean its justifiable for the poor to sit on their asses and leech off of others. The wealthy earned their money. There is a difference between earning something and leeching it. Inherited wealth was still earned even if it wasnt earned by the person who inherited.
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Look bud, I was born poor (holes in shoes and pants). I bought my first car after I got away from the town that Rush Limbaugh comes from.
That town and it's ilk will sink into the earth one day.
Yes "they" will try to keep you down. I succeeded in spite of those folks. I still believe in a hand up not a hand out.
You folks are talking anarchy here. If you think that society will work itself out without a government then you have seen a place without a government. I have
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When did I say that? That we should just dig a grave for em? We all as citizens should help those less fortunate than ourselves. But not at the barrel of a gun from uncle sam.

We have been throwing money at the poverty problem for what..40 years?

How has that worked out?
 Quoting: ***Evan***


It has worked out pretty well, our society is still functional. Take away "entitlements" and the poor will be out on the streets in greater numbers begging, hustling, stealing, and doing whatever it takes to make a living. The prison industry will boom with all your hard earned tax dollars to keep these new criminals locked up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793


Well that just proves you're an idiot
 Quoting: ***Evan***


You're the idiot. Our population has doubled in the last 40 years and will double again in the next 40. It's amazing how civil our society still is. But go ahead, keep pointing your filthy fingers at the poor. It's all their fault!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195793


Seriously, you libtards either don't pay attention, or realize the only way to make yourself look good is to make stuff up.

Please tell me where I "blamed the poor: for all our problems.

You can't because it's a lie.

Good try tho.

By the way, the poverty rate is pretty much identical to what it was back when they started throwing money at the problem. But I know libs don't operate in the realm of facts.
Truth is the new hate speech in this age of absurdity.
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I like to step back and observe how being "hardworking" is touted as the ultimate moral value for middle and lower class people. For upper class who were born into money it's just the opposite. It's virtuous and morally proper for them in their eyes to not work at all.
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:yay:
 Quoting: Éireann


I dont understand why the "poor" attempt to use this logic as a way to justify sitting on their asses. People who inherit wealth dont have to work. If you dont already have wealth you have to work to survive. Its that simple. Life isnt fair. Deal with it. Just because the wealthy have the means to sit on their asses does not mean its justifiable for the poor to sit on their asses and leech off of others. The wealthy earned their money. There is a difference between earning something and leeching it. Inherited wealth was still earned even if it wasnt earned by the person who inherited.
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Look bud, I was born poor (holes in shoes and pants). I bought my first car after I got away from the town that Rush Limbaugh comes from.
That town and it's ilk will sink into the earth one day.
Yes "they" will try to keep you down. I succeeded in spite of those folks. I still believe in a hand up not a hand out.
You folks are talking anarchy here. If you think that society will work itself out without a government then you have seen a place without a government. I have
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Welfare funded by forced taxation has only been around since the 1960s (unless you count social security.) Society didnt fall apart before the taxpayer funded dole. The poor just sucked it up and had to live within their means. It actually motivated many to get off their asses and make something of themselves. Now they can suck off the gov tit and draw a check so they have no motivation to get off their asses and do anything.
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Its easy to say cut spending when you have money, but what the Republicans are overlooking is a potential split in America that can have dire consequences.

Half of Americans are poor or facing becoming poor. While publicly people are running around thinking that the OTHER guy is the burden on society, they are going home and facing being two pay checks away from eviction, going hungry in a nice house, or going on Food Stamps and Section8 to keep a rook over their heads and food.

Americans are starting to see who these Republicans and Tea Partyers work for and are waking up. Unfortunately not fast enough though.
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...and we see what 3 years of Marxism has brought us! If the needy greedy would quit having children like animals we wouldnt need to put people on the government roles generation after generation. When did this country become a place where I am my brothers keeper plus 10 generations (of theirs) down the line keeper.
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smaller government, tax cuts and less government spending
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The question becomes is it up to the government to take from one group of people so the can spend on another? Perhaps that is the cause of America's current situation. The country seems to have been better off BEFORE the explosion of social programs.
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Is is absolutely the Governments responsibility to help its people in hard times.
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Especially when the government is responsible for creating these hard times. (collusion with the banksters)
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Its easy to say cut spending when you have money, but what the Republicans are overlooking is a potential split in America that can have dire consequences.

Half of Americans are poor or facing becoming poor. While publicly people are running around thinking that the OTHER guy is the burden on society, they are going home and facing being two pay checks away from eviction, going hungry in a nice house, or going on Food Stamps and Section8 to keep a rook over their heads and food.

Americans are starting to see who these Republicans and Tea Partyers work for and are waking up. Unfortunately not fast enough though.
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DUH! BOTH parties want to destroy our nation, the monkeys in both parties are controlled by big corp and elite bankers are pulling the strings and brings this nation down. Vote for Gary Johnson and show the rebloodlicans and democrips that we are sick of this!
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The question becomes is it up to the government to take from one group of people so the can spend on another? Perhaps that is the cause of America's current situation. The country seems to have been better off BEFORE the explosion of social programs.
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I am so sick of my hard earned money being stolen and handed over to welfare whores and their disgusting , sub human little crotch fruit. If I had only enough food to feed 1, and the choice was between a stray dog and a welfare kid, the welfare kid would lose.
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I dont understand why the "poor" attempt to use this logic as a way to justify sitting on their asses. People who inherit wealth dont have to work. If you dont already have wealth you have to work to survive. Its that simple. Life isnt fair. Deal with it. Just because the wealthy have the means to sit on their asses does not mean its justifiable for the poor to sit on their asses and leech off of others. The wealthy earned their money. There is a difference between earning something and leeching it. Inherited wealth was still earned even if it wasnt earned by the person who inherited.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16922939


Look bud, I was born poor (holes in shoes and pants). I bought my first car after I got away from the town that Rush Limbaugh comes from.
That town and it's ilk will sink into the earth one day.
Yes "they" will try to keep you down. I succeeded in spite of those folks. I still believe in a hand up not a hand out.
You folks are talking anarchy here. If you think that society will work itself out without a government then you have seen a place without a government. I have
 Quoting: dschis1000


Welfare funded by forced taxation has only been around since the 1960s (unless you count social security.) Society didnt fall apart before the taxpayer funded dole. The poor just sucked it up and had to live within their means. It actually motivated many to get off their asses and make something of themselves. Now they can suck off the gov tit and draw a check so they have no motivation to get off their asses and do anything.
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Yes and there were party lines for the telephone, Steam locomotives and more horses than cars. Mail was delivered by the USPS. If you were a man you were lucky to make to 50.
People died from the flu, TB, MS, CF etc. Asbestos was a miracle substance as well as DDT.

Things are different now. I have problems with welfare myself. I'm talking the other stuff. That list is pretty long.

Listen chief until a few years ago I spouted the same stuff as you. I hope you don't have to go through what I did to change your mind
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The question becomes is it up to the government to take from one group of people so the can spend on another? Perhaps that is the cause of America's current situation. The country seems to have been better off BEFORE the explosion of social programs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215807


That is indeed the question, in fact one of the most important political questions of all, of one the most important differences between republicans and democrats. And I think everyone has their own answer to that question.

Personally, I feel the answer is yes, the government should be able to take from one group to spend on the other, if the other needs it more than the first group. In a perfect world, no one should have their hard earned money taken away from them fr someone else, but in a perfect world, no one would be in poverty and need to take it from someone else. The fact of the matter is, we don't live in a prefect world, and it is unfortunately neccessary for some to give up part of what they have so that others can at least have the basics as well.

I also think it comes down to a basic matter if human compassion to help those less fortunate. I know many do not understand the reality of poor folks, and many think that the poor are simply lazy or fraudulently accept more money than they need, but I have to say, inky personal experience, I have seen several families accept government money that they don't need (fraud), but for the most i have seen that most poor people do need the money, and are also not lazy, but rather hardworking and simply unable to get ahead.
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That's theft and it's bullshit and it's certainly not what his country was founded on. Nobody owes anybody else a damned thing. People need to grow the fuck up and take responsibility for themselves. Can't find a job? Then create your own. Sitting around waiting for someone to hand you a job is childish. People need to start making their own way instead of sitting around waiting for someone to hand them something.

If you are worried about the poor then YOU support them out of your OWN PRIVATE funds. It is not your place to dictate that others have their property stolen so it can be redistributed.
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Indeed this country Absolutely WAS founded on the idea of what you call 'theft,' because you know what? Its called the good old American Dream, the idea that EVERYONE has a chance to make it in our country. If people need a little bit of extra help to make it, then it is by all mean's neccesssary because, contrary to why you seem to think, the will to work is no longer enough to make it, and sometimes people DO need some help of to keep Their American Dream alive.
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I am so sick of my hard earned money being stolen and handed over to welfare whores and their disgusting , sub human little crotch fruit. If I had only enough food to feed 1, and the choice was between a stray dog and a welfare kid, the welfare kid would lose.
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We are going to lose the union. I can see it now. Something is about to happen.
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Its easy to say cut spending when you have money, but what the Republicans are overlooking is a potential split in America that can have dire consequences.

Half of Americans are poor or facing becoming poor. While publicly people are running around thinking that the OTHER guy is the burden on society, they are going home and facing being two pay checks away from eviction, going hungry in a nice house, or going on Food Stamps and Section8 to keep a rook over their heads and food.

Americans are starting to see who these Republicans and Tea Partyers work for and are waking up. Unfortunately not fast enough though.
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HALF.. that means that HALF have made better decisions.

Why should i Pay for your lazy ass because you didn't?
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The question becomes is it up to the government to take from one group of people so the can spend on another? Perhaps that is the cause of America's current situation. The country seems to have been better off BEFORE the explosion of social programs.
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That is indeed the question, in fact one of the most important political questions of all, of one the most important differences between republicans and democrats. And I think everyone has their own answer to that question.

Personally, I feel the answer is yes, the government should be able to take from one group to spend on the other, if the other needs it more than the first group. In a perfect world, no one should have their hard earned money taken away from them fr someone else, but in a perfect world, no one would be in poverty and need to take it from someone else. The fact of the matter is, we don't live in a prefect world, and it is unfortunately neccessary for some to give up part of what they have so that others can at least have the basics as well.

I also think it comes down to a basic matter if human compassion to help those less fortunate. I know many do not understand the reality of poor folks, and many think that the poor are simply lazy or fraudulently accept more money than they need, but I have to say, inky personal experience, I have seen several families accept government money that they don't need (fraud), but for the most i have seen that most poor people do need the money, and are also not lazy, but rather hardworking and simply unable to get ahead.
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That's theft and it's bullshit and it's certainly not what his country was founded on. Nobody owes anybody else a damned thing. People need to grow the fuck up and take responsibility for themselves. Can't find a job? Then create your own. Sitting around waiting for someone to hand you a job is childish. People need to start making their own way instead of sitting around waiting for someone to hand them something.

If you are worried about the poor then YOU support them out of your OWN PRIVATE funds. It is not your place to dictate that others have their property stolen so it can be redistributed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16922939


Indeed this country Absolutely WAS founded on the idea of what you call 'theft,' because you know what? Its called the good old American Dream, the idea that EVERYONE has a chance to make it in our country. If people need a little bit of extra help to make it, then it is by all mean's neccesssary because, contrary to why you seem to think, the will to work is no longer enough to make it, and sometimes people DO need some help of to keep Their American Dream alive.
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You folks are the type that would even go to a barn/house raising.

Go to Cades Cove in the Smoky Mountain National Park and ask one of the rangers there about the Cades Cove coummunity. Hint: there was a lot of that in early American history even the Mormons
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Its easy to say cut spending when you have money, but what the Republicans are overlooking is a potential split in America that can have dire consequences.

Half of Americans are poor or facing becoming poor. While publicly people are running around thinking that the OTHER guy is the burden on society, they are going home and facing being two pay checks away from eviction, going hungry in a nice house, or going on Food Stamps and Section8 to keep a rook over their heads and food.

Americans are starting to see who these Republicans and Tea Partyers work for and are waking up. Unfortunately not fast enough though.
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HALF.. that means that HALF have made better decisions.

Why should i Pay for your lazy ass because you didn't?
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Listen bud, sometimes it's just rotten luck. Not always though.

Go to an island somewhere by yourself and you won't have to. Do it all by yourself, somehow I don't think you can though.
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How many of you who are "making it" are willing to admit that you got a leg up as a result of your social connections and/or family members?

I will.

I could have easily ended up on welfare if it had not been for "nepotism" in the workplace. As a result of a friend getting me a job that I wasn't qualified for! This was at a time when I was grossly underemployed.

Yes, I had to do the work once I got my foot in the door, but if it hadn't been for that God knows what would have happened to me.

Most people who are successful got their opportunity from a social network, someone "got them in" and most of you won't admit it!
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

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Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
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How many of you who are "making it" are willing to admit that you got a leg up as a result of your social connections and/or family members?

I will.

I could have easily ended up on welfare if it had not been for "nepotism" in the workplace. As a result of a friend getting me a job that I wasn't qualified for! This was at a time when I was grossly underemployed.

Yes, I had to do the work once I got my foot in the door, but if it hadn't been for that God knows what would have happened to me.

Most people who are successful got their opportunity from a social network, someone "got them in" and most of you won't admit it!
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No one helped me, professionally at least.

Moot point tho, because people helping people is different than being forced at gunpoint to give up a portion of your EARNED income to give to others who choose to not try as hard.

Your story just proves we are capable of helping each other without the inept government being involved.

Last Edited by Stairway to Evan on 06/14/2012 09:25 PM
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The morals in this country have really gone downhill.

I guess that's been foretold you folks had better prep. It's just a matter of time
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How many of you who are "making it" are willing to admit that you got a leg up as a result of your social connections and/or family members?

I will.

I could have easily ended up on welfare if it had not been for "nepotism" in the workplace. As a result of a friend getting me a job that I wasn't qualified for! This was at a time when I was grossly underemployed.

Yes, I had to do the work once I got my foot in the door, but if it hadn't been for that God knows what would have happened to me.

Most people who are successful got their opportunity from a social network, someone "got them in" and most of you won't admit it!
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No one helped me, professionally at least.

Moot point tho, because people helping people is different than being forced at gunpoint to give up a portion of your EARNED income to give to others who choose to not try as hard.

Your story just proves we are capable of helping each other without the inept government being involved.
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It's SHEER LUCK that at that time I managed to have a connection who was willing to help me. At this time, I wouldn't be so lucky, as many are not so lucky.
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

John Stuart Mill
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Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
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