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Judethz User ID: 13496676 United Kingdom 06/14/2012 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Children of Aquarius will rise up . They will be our spiritual hope of the New Age. Quoting: ABYSS. Revelation 9:11 Yeah right. THE BEAST... [link to www.chick.com] Last Edited by Judethz on 06/14/2012 10:01 PM |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 17777433 United States 06/14/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hippise culture was created by the government that controls the control-freak statists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17951918 You think all of those drugs just invented themselves and all of those counter culture movements that buy right into sloth pharmacoia and go-green mentality of the luciferians just got started by themselves? Think again. The government controls your mind body and soul. Marijuana, opium, coca, sex, rock-n-roll, and contempt for authority are not creations of the fucking government. If they were, they wouldn't be illegal. I'll admit that the control-freak statists created harder, more dangerous, and addictive pharmacological drugs to subvert and destroy the so-called "counter-culture", but it ultimately failed to work. The "counter-culture" is rising once again, and us old-school "hippies" are teaching the young the tricks of the control-freak statist! Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 06/14/2012 10:05 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15359896 United States 06/14/2012 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exporting American jobs and manufacturing was stupid, but that is what heavy regulation and taxes does. I know all thw lefties will jumpo up and down and blame Bush but who was it that turned the White House into a chinese Motel Six? Why are we transferring military technology to countries like China to have them make critical parts of our equipment? It should all be made right here in teh USA and our govt should not outsource orders or jobs overseas, least of all the crap of Obama giving Sytel in Barcelona the job of tallying presidential votes, that is bullcrap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9117667 I understand your point but it would have been better to just keep allowing for inflation. Seriously. What happened was treason, no matter what party you back. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17956128 United States 06/14/2012 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is a good chance u will have to leave ur home esp. in the city! then u will be equal with the other refugees unless u get ur leg up right now! Europe is going under the us is maybe a mth or 2 behind, maybe by fall! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16736176 United States 06/14/2012 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Family means everything these days. I still live at home(23) and help out wherever I can. Repairs, bills, babysitting, cooking, etc. We're getting ready to add an indoor/outdoor garden which should be very beneficial. I need to make or buy a water filtration system since we have been getting so much rain in Texas. For food... I could hunt or fish. I'm a survivor, I can adapt to my surrounds... Can't say the same for the rest of my generation. |
El Quisqueyano User ID: 17895130 United States 06/14/2012 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You heard about the wiping out of the middle class, Its a frightening fact, ever since the shutting down of American manufacturing plants and the stock market crash of October 2008. Many businesses have folded and 90 percent of all start ups will fail. Quoting: ABYSS. Revelation 9:11 The only way many others are staying alive is in their parents home. I know a poor family, dead broke that had to move into their Fathers beautiful 400,000 dollar home. Its got the luxury kitchen and luxury deck and bathrooms. I know another family too of a retired doctor that had to take in his children and grandkids into his 1 million dollar home, hes a doctor. Even if your parents house is valued at only 50-100,000, and the quarters are cramped, the chances of the adult children moving in are high. Multi generations under one roof is now the norm, not by choice, but by sheer economic survival. Its only the Elderly who are keeping our nation alive ! They are the only ones that have their house paid for. Even if they are the old houses from the 40's 50's, 60's and 70s, Its all paid for and they are taking in their adult children . You dont hear fuss and riots yet cause all the broke people found a older relative to live with. You see people still staying afloat, having nice things, cause its only cause of the hard work of their parents before the Big Corps shipped off all the jobs to China, India and Mexico. The younger boomers and generation x and y still have parents to fall back on. Its the younger generation thats screwed, Heres shocking statistics from the year 2000 Quote: The United States has lost an average of 50,000 manufacturing jobs per month since China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. *Between December 2000 and December 2010, 38 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Ohio were lost, 42 percent of the manufacturing jobs in North Carolina were lost and 48 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Michigan were lost. *According to U.S. Representative Betty Sutton, America has lost an average of 15 manufacturing facilities a day over the last 10 years. During 2010 it got even worse. Last year, an average of 23 manufacturing facilities a day shut down in the United States. *In all, more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities in the United States have shut down since 2001. End Qoute [link to theeconomiccollapseblog.com] And how about the kids who dont want to be blue collar workers? Harsh fact, More and more University and college students are now so deeply in debt, they have no hope of buying a house. Student debts of 100,000- 150,000 dollars are now the norm. You hear of all the college graduates having to take waitressing or waiter jobs (pink collar workers) to try and pay off their loan cause they cant find a job that caters to their degree. I feel sorry for anyone 25 and under, They are the ones with no hope. All elected officials, of this country, do not have the general populace's best interest in mind. Don't you sheeple get it already? They are all in the pockets of TPTB. When will we rise up? Namaste. |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 17777433 United States 06/14/2012 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Children of Aquarius will rise up . They will be our spiritual hope of the New Age. Quoting: ABYSS. Revelation 9:11 Yeah right. THE BEAST... [link to www.chick.com] How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16736176 United States 06/14/2012 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You heard about the wiping out of the middle class, Its a frightening fact, ever since the shutting down of American manufacturing plants and the stock market crash of October 2008. Many businesses have folded and 90 percent of all start ups will fail. Quoting: ABYSS. Revelation 9:11 The only way many others are staying alive is in their parents home. I know a poor family, dead broke that had to move into their Fathers beautiful 400,000 dollar home. Its got the luxury kitchen and luxury deck and bathrooms. I know another family too of a retired doctor that had to take in his children and grandkids into his 1 million dollar home, hes a doctor. Even if your parents house is valued at only 50-100,000, and the quarters are cramped, the chances of the adult children moving in are high. Multi generations under one roof is now the norm, not by choice, but by sheer economic survival. Its only the Elderly who are keeping our nation alive ! They are the only ones that have their house paid for. Even if they are the old houses from the 40's 50's, 60's and 70s, Its all paid for and they are taking in their adult children . You dont hear fuss and riots yet cause all the broke people found a older relative to live with. You see people still staying afloat, having nice things, cause its only cause of the hard work of their parents before the Big Corps shipped off all the jobs to China, India and Mexico. The younger boomers and generation x and y still have parents to fall back on. Its the younger generation thats screwed, Heres shocking statistics from the year 2000 Quote: The United States has lost an average of 50,000 manufacturing jobs per month since China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. *Between December 2000 and December 2010, 38 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Ohio were lost, 42 percent of the manufacturing jobs in North Carolina were lost and 48 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Michigan were lost. *According to U.S. Representative Betty Sutton, America has lost an average of 15 manufacturing facilities a day over the last 10 years. During 2010 it got even worse. Last year, an average of 23 manufacturing facilities a day shut down in the United States. *In all, more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities in the United States have shut down since 2001. End Qoute [link to theeconomiccollapseblog.com] And how about the kids who dont want to be blue collar workers? Harsh fact, More and more University and college students are now so deeply in debt, they have no hope of buying a house. Student debts of 100,000- 150,000 dollars are now the norm. You hear of all the college graduates having to take waitressing or waiter jobs (pink collar workers) to try and pay off their loan cause they cant find a job that caters to their degree. I feel sorry for anyone 25 and under, They are the ones with no hope. All elected officials, of this country, do not have the general populace's best interest in mind. Don't you sheeple get it already? They are all in the pockets of TPTB. When will we rise up? Namaste. Not sure about the older generations, But my generation(20's) are tired of this shit. Not tired as in I want you to listen to me complain but are looking for a solution. Hopefully we can all come together as one and stand together, If not... I'll stand on my own as i've always done in the past. |
Shingen User ID: 11870625 United States 06/14/2012 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you've done is explain how the control-freak statist attempted to subvert and destroy the actual "counter-culture" by using drugs, dis-information, media, compartmentalization, and various other strategies that ultimately failed. Whether the music artists you site are in fact part of the conspiracy is immaterial. Statists have been trying to destroy and subvert independently-minded individuals since the Roman Empire. They haven't succeeded in over 10,000 years of control-freak statism, and it's not likely they ever will. "Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner "If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly |
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Shingen User ID: 11870625 United States 06/14/2012 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nope. When we were losing our house my in laws had my brother in law call and let my wife know that we (+ 2 small kids) would not be able to stay with them even temporarily (couple in a 4 bedroom mortgage free house). Then they went on a nice vacation and we moved in to our car. Quoting: jrb366 16937796 You were prolly better off in your car. "Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner "If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly |
El Quisqueyano User ID: 17895130 United States 06/14/2012 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You heard about the wiping out of the middle class, Its a frightening fact, ever since the shutting down of American manufacturing plants and the stock market crash of October 2008. Many businesses have folded and 90 percent of all start ups will fail. Quoting: ABYSS. Revelation 9:11 The only way many others are staying alive is in their parents home. I know a poor family, dead broke that had to move into their Fathers beautiful 400,000 dollar home. Its got the luxury kitchen and luxury deck and bathrooms. I know another family too of a retired doctor that had to take in his children and grandkids into his 1 million dollar home, hes a doctor. Even if your parents house is valued at only 50-100,000, and the quarters are cramped, the chances of the adult children moving in are high. Multi generations under one roof is now the norm, not by choice, but by sheer economic survival. Its only the Elderly who are keeping our nation alive ! They are the only ones that have their house paid for. Even if they are the old houses from the 40's 50's, 60's and 70s, Its all paid for and they are taking in their adult children . You dont hear fuss and riots yet cause all the broke people found a older relative to live with. You see people still staying afloat, having nice things, cause its only cause of the hard work of their parents before the Big Corps shipped off all the jobs to China, India and Mexico. The younger boomers and generation x and y still have parents to fall back on. Its the younger generation thats screwed, Heres shocking statistics from the year 2000 Quote: The United States has lost an average of 50,000 manufacturing jobs per month since China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. *Between December 2000 and December 2010, 38 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Ohio were lost, 42 percent of the manufacturing jobs in North Carolina were lost and 48 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Michigan were lost. *According to U.S. Representative Betty Sutton, America has lost an average of 15 manufacturing facilities a day over the last 10 years. During 2010 it got even worse. Last year, an average of 23 manufacturing facilities a day shut down in the United States. *In all, more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities in the United States have shut down since 2001. End Qoute [link to theeconomiccollapseblog.com] And how about the kids who dont want to be blue collar workers? Harsh fact, More and more University and college students are now so deeply in debt, they have no hope of buying a house. Student debts of 100,000- 150,000 dollars are now the norm. You hear of all the college graduates having to take waitressing or waiter jobs (pink collar workers) to try and pay off their loan cause they cant find a job that caters to their degree. I feel sorry for anyone 25 and under, They are the ones with no hope. All elected officials, of this country, do not have the general populace's best interest in mind. Don't you sheeple get it already? They are all in the pockets of TPTB. When will we rise up? Namaste. Not sure about the older generations, But my generation(20's) are tired of this shit. Not tired as in I want you to listen to me complain but are looking for a solution. Hopefully we can all come together as one and stand together, If not... I'll stand on my own as i've always done in the past. This world needs more people like you that are willing to stand together to rid this country of this virus called TPTB. |
jrb366 User ID: 16937796 United States 06/14/2012 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nope. When we were losing our house my in laws had my brother in law call and let my wife know that we (+ 2 small kids) would not be able to stay with them even temporarily (couple in a 4 bedroom mortgage free house). Then they went on a nice vacation and we moved in to our car. Quoting: jrb366 16937796 You were prolly better off in your car. the kids were not |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8862775 United States 06/14/2012 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Any start up business back then is now worth millions today." OP, you made some good points, but this ain't one of 'em. Pretty stupid comment, to be honest. You shouldn't spout off with things like that -- it diminishes your intended message. Trying to be helpful... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1245548 United States 06/14/2012 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no I live on Lake Minnetonka in MN and people here are taking over! The wealthy are buying up everything. don't worry people the US gov that you so love spends roughly 900 billion on military each year, gives billions to Israel each year, and has 17 trillion in fraud and that's not even half of it. |
Top Hat Top Hat User ID: 10235814 United States 06/14/2012 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a boomer. All my adult children and the fiance of my daughter are still living with us. My daughter and her fiance just bought a house, and my Son is being recruited into the Green Berets or Military Intelligence. He goes to Boot Camp in September. There's no speaking to him until I'm blue in the face that will keep him from his supposed destiny. Arrrg. He has a GeneralGeorge Patton Complex. There's no jobs of much value for these young people anymore, save but the very lucky or connected. I hate what the Boomers have done to this country. I myself am a Shadow Boomer. I try to survive after the Glut of Boomers have already laid waste to the economy with their greed and sheer size like a plague of locusts. I can't imagine how tough it is for Gen-Xers. I think the best thing to do for Gen-Xers, without the means for an education or connection, is to work completely in the Black Market. In fact, someone needs to start a www.BlackMarketJobs.com website for the Gen-Xers and younger or get welfare to bring the system down even quicker. Lastly, Gen-Xers should try to start class action suits within their states over the economic conditions they've been forced into. I dont know why they aren't already rioting and protesting. It boggles my mind. Instead, they're committing suicide by the droves or are turning to drugs and ending up in prison. Are we becoming a prison nation/planet? Why not? 3 hots and a cot sounds pretty inviting. We're all headed there anyway. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17959284 United States 06/14/2012 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we moved my grandmother in with us. i have witnessed this for some time now. i actually bought a small farm to stay as self sufficient as i can. we have pigs, cattle, goats and chickens. i have 15 acres of nice pasture and a garden for home use. we also have a well system and emergency woodburner for heat. we dug a pond for the cattle but it is fully stocked for us. i know this isnt for everyone but i feel kind of relieved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17894339 United States 06/14/2012 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't knock it man I got a nice setup. I got a divorce and recently moved to my mom and step dad's house. Now I got free room and board, EBT card $200 a month, access to a car, and looking to get hired working retail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17894339 I'm eating better than ever and got the entire lower half of the house to myself. Don't need a woman either but I will sport fuck some if I find em. Walmart cashier? Petsmart, any other retail job, ill take it. But for now I got all kinds of free time while they check my references. I'm 37 btw and fighting a divorce. When I get settlement money and possibly one of the vehicles i'll be even better off. till then though Moms said don't worry about moving out right now you can stay as long as you need! Thanks Mom!! Jesus,i would kick you to the curb...oh what...your wife already did. Don't be hating man. You have no idea what I went through before I got here. The state I was living in was a dead end as far as jobs were concerned. My mother was nice enough to offer that I come live with her and my step dad for awhile. They are letting me use a vehicle to get employed. I don't plan on staying here but its quite hard to make it lately in the world if you haven't noticed. It's nice to have family you can fall back on. |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 17777433 United States 06/14/2012 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a boomer. All my adult children and the fiance of my daughter are still living with us. My daughter and her fiance just bought a house, and my Son is being recruited into the Green Berets or Military Intelligence. He goes to Boot Camp in September. There's no speaking to him until I'm blue in the face that will keep him from his supposed destiny. Arrrg. He has a GeneralGeorge Patton Complex. Quoting: Top Hat There's no jobs of much value for these young people anymore, save but the very lucky or connected. I hate what the Boomers have done to this country. I myself am a Shadow Boomer. I try to survive after the Glut of Boomers have already laid waste to the economy with their greed and sheer size like a plague of locusts. I can't imagine how tough it is for Gen-Xers. I think the best thing to do for Gen-Xers, without the means for an education or connection, is to work completely in the Black Market. In fact, someone needs to start a www.BlackMarketJobs.com website for the Gen-Xers and younger or get welfare to bring the system down even quicker. Lastly, Gen-Xers should try to start class action suits within their states over the economic conditions they've been forced into. I dont know why they aren't already rioting and protesting. It boggles my mind. Instead, they're committing suicide by the droves or are turning to drugs and ending up in prison. Are we becoming a prison nation/planet? Why not? 3 hots and a cot sounds pretty inviting. We're all headed there anyway. Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 06/14/2012 11:05 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17894339 United States 06/14/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a 21 year old I ask myself everyday while reading GLP: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8371868 Why did the people before me permit all this to happen? Me too. The answer is greed and believed all of the bullshit they were being fed. and If they didn't believe it they chose not to do shit about it. You left out the part about the obvious agenda to kill the middle class. Debt based fiat money system etc. |
tiger1 User ID: 6269153 United States 06/14/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up for those living off their elderly parents. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9231012 In the USA there is a little thing called, "The Medicaid Recovery Act". If your grandparents or parents have been using Medicade and they think they can just leave a house or vehicles or anything to their kid they have a huge wake up call to find out about. If the kid thinks that once they bury their Medicaid using elderly and are betting they will inherit the house or possessions they too need a wake up call. You see folks, it isn't really discussed much because the Government knows if kids knew too much about the recovery act they would likely kick their elderly to the curb or at least cut ties with them. You see, at the court processing the "last will/s" at probate time Medicaid, gets to "Recover" most of what it payed out to care for Medicaid patients. Medicaid gets their cut out of the estate way before any inheritor gets jack shyte, if the amount to be recovered exceeds the cash in the dead persons bank accounts, which it usually does the entire estate, house and cars and furniture, all possessions are liquidated. Often times the inheritor child is left homeless, broke and completely dazed. Don't believe me? Google it or whatever. The only way to step around this is BEFORE the elderly ever use Medicaid they must put all their possessions into a NON-Revocable trust to their child. Medicaid can break a common revocable trust to do recovery of funds so it must be a Non-Revocable trust. So to any kids in the basement.......Welcome to the real world! :) This rule states that any medical costs that medicaid paid for AFTER the age of 50, are recoverable from the persons estate. The only exception is the home where a spouse is staying. They exempt that, but anything else is game. They can also go back 3-5 years to recover assets. That means that if your parent signed the house over to you, say maybe 3 years ago, and then your parent goes on medicaid tomorrow, they have a right to recover the value of the house from the recipient, YOU, the surviving child. Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!! |
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IndigoSerenity76 User ID: 12265150 United States 06/14/2012 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I haven't moved in with my parents yet, but it sure is tempting with one income and 3 kids. Quoting: IndigoSerenity76 Heck, You can save a whole lot of money living at home for 6-18 months. Yeah, that's what I have been thinking. My parents would love it, seriously. "Imagine no possessions" "As Above, So Below" )O( Rach |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1220224 United States 06/15/2012 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hippise culture was created by the government that controls the control-freak statists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17951918 You think all of those drugs just invented themselves and all of those counter culture movements that buy right into sloth pharmacoia and go-green mentality of the luciferians just got started by themselves? Think again. The government controls your mind body and soul. Marijuana, opium, coca, sex, rock-n-roll, and contempt for authority are not creations of the fucking government. If they were, they wouldn't be illegal. I'll admit that the control-freak statists created harder, more dangerous, and addictive pharmacological drugs to subvert and destroy the so-called "counter-culture", but it ultimately failed to work. The "counter-culture" is rising once again, and us old-school "hippies" are teaching the young the tricks of the control-freak statist! You think they don't play both sides that deep? You are sorely mistaken. Please, tell me why every single illuminati rapper alive raps about nothing but marijuana now? Wiz Khalifa, NAS (he's a freemason, look it up), Bob Marley (don't you DARE try to say that Haeilie Salasee was actually the reincatnation of Jesus Christ. Rastafarianism is a joke. And if Bob Marley was such a rebel, how did he get to perform in front of millions and sell millions of albums? HMMMMMM???!!), JIMI HENDRIX (MK Ultra for sure), Rick Ross, Meek Mills, Lil Wayne, Birdman, Three 6 Mafia, 2 Chainz, Kirko Bangz, ASAP Rocky (who has serious witchcraft in his videos), seriously, you really think for a SECOND that the CIA and government don't 100% control the dope trade and KNOW its potential for creating zombified people when they can just SPRAY THE BUD with whatever they want before they sell it? I mean COME ON, Spice (K2) even has the EYE OF HORUS on it!!! Pharmacoia is all BLACK MAGIC. Tell me ONE verse in the Bible where Jesus smokes or talks about the healing power of anything OTHER than the holy spirit? I know the genesis verse talks about herb yielding plants after their kind, but that is NOT an excuse to glorify the creation rather than the creator, and one of he MOST IMPORTANT VERSES IN HTE BIBLE is this: "Be sober minded, be vigilant, for your enemy the devil walks around the earth like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour". Go on. Refute everything I just posted. Go ahead. REAL TALK HERE... |