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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13700709 Argentina 06/14/2012 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! Central banks from major economies stand ready to take steps to stabilize financial markets by providing liquidity and preventing a credit squeeze if the outcome of Greek elections on Sunday causes tumultuous trading, |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13700709 Argentina 06/14/2012 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! The Bank of England will launch two new stimulus packages in response to the worsening economic outlook, governor Sir Mervyn King has said. [link to www.bbc.co.uk] |
Orvontonian User ID: 14785429 Mexico 06/14/2012 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! EURO WILL COLLAPSE THIS WEEKEND!!!Just wait after Greeks elections... [link to www.stevequayle.com] Bring the financial DOOM!...It´s about time! Last Edited by Orvontonian on 06/14/2012 11:14 PM "And when such an animal-origin being does stand, as countless numbers now do, before God on Paradise, having ascended from the lowly spheres of space, such an achievement represents the reality of a spiritual transformation bordering on the limits of supremacy." (Paper 11: Section 9) www.urantia.org |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1158628 United States 06/14/2012 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! My guess? Carsh isn't a word. I get that you didn't have time to "write it properly", but you didn't have time 3 times? Fox Business is a scam, trying to compete with the equally corrupt Bloomberg and CNBC corporate hos. And of course, Central Banks are printing money. That is what the Helicopter crowd does when they can't find another bubble to fake-inflate to milk the last of the rubes into the markets. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13700709 Argentina 06/14/2012 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! EURO WILL COLLAPSE THIS WEEKEND!!!Just wait after Greeks elections... Quoting: Orvontonian [link to www.stevequayle.com] Bring the financial DOOM!...It´s about time! THAT´S THE SPIRIT of GLP |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1221657 United States 06/14/2012 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! Yeah, euro is up vs US dollar. Everything is up vs US dollar right now. That's why the stock market, which is normally inverse to the dollar, shot up 200 pts today. Euro may be in trouble, but look out US dollar! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13700709 Argentina 06/15/2012 05:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! Why Joint Central Bank Action Is Unlikely and Won’t Work [link to www.cnbc.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17878374 United Kingdom 06/15/2012 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! The Bank of England will launch two new stimulus packages in response to the worsening economic outlook, governor Sir Mervyn King has said. Quoting: Strongman Shelford [link to www.bbc.co.uk] I think the timing of this is indeed worrisome, and perhaps precautionary for this weekend? not sure I am clued up enough to comment, but you know how gut feelings are.. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13700709 Argentina 06/15/2012 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! The Bank of England will launch two new stimulus packages in response to the worsening economic outlook, governor Sir Mervyn King has said. Quoting: Strongman Shelford [link to www.bbc.co.uk] I think the timing of this is indeed worrisome, and perhaps precautionary for this weekend? not sure I am clued up enough to comment, but you know how gut feelings are.. gut feelings, uncle rumors and dreams are allowed |
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Baltar User ID: 14348632 United States 06/15/2012 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! Market CARSH next week? Quoting: Strongman Shelford Greek elections? forex platforms warning of violent volatility: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] MARKET CARSH? but wait..euro is up again near 1,26 what about this: Central Banks Said to Prepare for Coordinated Action Read more: [link to www.foxbusiness.com] [link to www.foxbusiness.com] WHAT IS YOUR GUESS? It may not be next week, or even the week after, but I think the global economy is at stall speed, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it John Hussman wrote a couple of weeks back that QE3, even if done, will have little impact Seriously, can the Fed, with a straight face, argue that long term rates aren't low enough with the yield on the 10 year somewhere around 1.5%? If four years of low rates, increasingly affordable housing and dropping fuel prices hasn't been sufficiently stimulative, what on earth can do the trick? Did you read his latest piece? He pretty much sums it up, imo: The Heart of the Matter ...To a large extent, this downturn is a "boomerang" from the credit crisis we experienced several years ago. The chain of events is as follows: Financial deregulation and monetary negligence -> Housing bubble -> Credit crisis marked by failure to restructure bad debt -> Global recession -> Government deficits in U.S. and globally -> Conflict between single currency and disparate fiscal policies in Europe -> Austerity -> European recession and credit strains -> Global recession. In effect, we're going into another recession because we never effectively addressed the problems that produced the first one, leaving us unusually vulnerable to aftershocks. Our economic malaise is the result of a whole chain of bad decisions that have distorted the financial markets in ways that make recurring crisis inevitable. [link to www.hussman.net] The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~Marcus Aurelius |
Baltar User ID: 14348632 United States 06/15/2012 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! To sum it up, the problem is massive global debt on a national, municipal and personal level Only the pets are debt free The global economy is collectively about to run out of room on it's remaining credit card, and it is spending 300% more than it makes From the outside, like many supposedly rich families I know, all looks great. The McMansion looks well tended, the leased cars indicate prosperity, the clothes all have designer labels However, at the end of every month there is a negative balance, and all that is needed is one or two months without income to set the wheels in motion which will bring an end to the charade A very good analyst I heard said the next black swan will come from the emerging markets, and I agree with this 100% Here is his presentation, if you're interetsed: [link to vimeo.com] The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~Marcus Aurelius |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13124703 Argentina 06/15/2012 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! Market CARSH next week? Quoting: Strongman Shelford Greek elections? forex platforms warning of violent volatility: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] MARKET CARSH? but wait..euro is up again near 1,26 what about this: Central Banks Said to Prepare for Coordinated Action Read more: [link to www.foxbusiness.com] [link to www.foxbusiness.com] WHAT IS YOUR GUESS? It may not be next week, or even the week after, but I think the global economy is at stall speed, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it John Hussman wrote a couple of weeks back that QE3, even if done, will have little impact Seriously, can the Fed, with a straight face, argue that long term rates aren't low enough with the yield on the 10 year somewhere around 1.5%? If four years of low rates, increasingly affordable housing and dropping fuel prices hasn't been sufficiently stimulative, what on earth can do the trick? Did you read his latest piece? He pretty much sums it up, imo: The Heart of the Matter ...To a large extent, this downturn is a "boomerang" from the credit crisis we experienced several years ago. The chain of events is as follows: Financial deregulation and monetary negligence -> Housing bubble -> Credit crisis marked by failure to restructure bad debt -> Global recession -> Government deficits in U.S. and globally -> Conflict between single currency and disparate fiscal policies in Europe -> Austerity -> European recession and credit strains -> Global recession. In effect, we're going into another recession because we never effectively addressed the problems that produced the first one, leaving us unusually vulnerable to aftershocks. Our economic malaise is the result of a whole chain of bad decisions that have distorted the financial markets in ways that make recurring crisis inevitable. [link to www.hussman.net] I disagree. It is a very stupid claim. If they print money like crazy qe3 , the impact is guaranteed. Size matters |
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WeAreOne User ID: 17663629 United Kingdom 06/15/2012 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! The Bank of England will launch two new stimulus packages in response to the worsening economic outlook, governor Sir Mervyn King has said. Quoting: Strongman Shelford [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Banks didn't lend on the last bailout. This money just goes to cover bank debts. No-one sees any of it, it simply disappears. Be the change you want the World to be. Be |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1477774 Canada 06/15/2012 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! It is we "the people" that will have to swallow this cost for the helicopter ride... Watch for the amazing shrinking packages of food..and for prices to go sky high...if you starve the masses you will have better control over them numbed down sheeple will head for the government utter and then be forced to work the meaningless jobs for no pay..they will be lined up like sheep for the slaughter and not realize they will be doomed to a life of misery all to line the pockets of a few... let the games begin...I for one will not fall for their evil schemes and am at the ready with my full armour of God |
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Baltar User ID: 14348632 United States 06/15/2012 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here! ok i was a little rude. I believe the impact of a QE3 will change the markets, but may not CHANGE the path to global recession. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13124703 They may pop the markets for anywhere from 3-6 months, but ultimately, I believe the end result will be the same I had just written on the thread about the Dutch bank downgrades, that China cannot afford more stimulus, and really, the Chinese stimulus would be the only one which matters as it would stimulate the important emerging markets down stream. In my opinion, anyway, there will be NO QE3 of any size, and ultimately markets will - and MUST unwind (whether it is a sudden crash or slow speed meltdown, the end result will be the same) If you recall, in March 2009 when the global credit markets were about to collapse, there was that massive coordinated central bank action which led to the V-shaped bounce seen on just about every chart China's massive stimulus led to the building of the infamous ghost cities, ghost malls, kilometers of highways and stockpiling of everything from copper to soybeans and zinc However that stimulus also has indirectly led to unaffordable housing (in cities like Shanghai, apt prices have been at unsustainable multiples of near 20x wages, compare that to the US where real estate crashed when it hit 6x earnings) That stimulus has led to wage inflation on a scale which has forced Chinese firms to relocate operations to countries like Vietnam in search of affordable labor Worst of all, the inflationary impact of stimulus has led to serious food price inflation, something which now threatens social and political stability and is probably the reason for the new super hard line government about to take power in Beijing Therefore, China cannot afford another round of massive stimulus. It already has over capacity from the last one Furthermore, they know what the game is about. The Chinese have even come out and said in so many words that they are not going to further inflate their economy just so western traders and hedge funds can drive up the cost of essential commodities even higher. So we know the Chinese are not going to stimulate the world economy, and frankly even if they did a stimulus, and went back into high gear producing even more useless geegaws and electronics, WHO is going to buy? The Australians are at 160% debt to income, the Canadians 150%, the Brits 170%, the Danes 300%, the Norwegians and Dutch 250%, the Koreans, even the Malaysians around 180%...and the list goes on The global consumer is near tapped out, and at this point, most countries struggling with debt issues are looking to increase their own exports, not import more from China I think the next phase of this crisis is where it gets uglier, if not with outright war, then with trade wars and increasing protectionist barriers. Globalism in time gives way to nationalism as debt concerns rise and it increasingly becomes every man, every government or at best regional blocs for themselves This can only end one way in my opinion: with a loud bursting of the global corporate debt bubble, sovereign debt bubble, consumer debt bubble all of which will probably destroy the global credit markets as we know them What takes its place after that, is anyone's guess. The dust will have to settle first to see what remains Thats the way I see it, anyway. Obviously no one has a crystal ball and if if a super genius comes up with a miracle solution which doesn't involve more debt cleverly packaged under yet another 4 letter label, then I will be thrilled at the prospect of relief. But until then, this is what I see... Last Edited by Baltar on 06/15/2012 08:05 AM The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~Marcus Aurelius |