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KJV translators remove Jesus' words, why, like Judas, Protestants reject the Eucharist

 
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KJV translators remove Jesus' words, why, like Judas, Protestants reject the Eucharist
PRAY for Protestants to convert at the Great Warning (Rev 6:16-17). It is "soon."

John 6:64 King James Version (KJV)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 (Douay-Rheims)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, AND WHO HE WAS, that would betray him.


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PRAY for Protestants to convert at the Great Warning (Rev 6:16-17). It is "soon."

John 6:64 King James Version (KJV)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 (Douay-Rheims)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, AND WHO HE WAS, that would betray him.


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Judas rejected the Real Presence, do not be like him, you
can change.

An obvious deletion of words by King James' translators.

Reread John Chapter 6... [link to www.drbo.org]
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Why do people cling to the King James bible? It was translated for a King, and has some horribly bad mistranslations with the intent to keep people in bondage under that king.

Just because a mistake was made once, does not mean that we should keep repeating it out of tradition.
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No thanks!
Try doing some research on the history of the Roman Catholic Church.
The following should sum it pretty well when it comes to our eternal salvation.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

King James Version (KJV)
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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PRAY for Protestants to convert at the Great Warning (Rev 6:16-17). It is "soon."

John 6:64 King James Version (KJV)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 (Douay-Rheims)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, AND WHO HE WAS, that would betray him.


[link to www.drbo.org]
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The words that you say are missing are not Jesus's words. Jesus didn't say the part you put in red.

And the difference between the sentences is "he was that", not "and who he was".
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PRAY for Protestants to convert at the Great Warning (Rev 6:16-17). It is "soon."

John 6:64 King James Version (KJV)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 (Douay-Rheims)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, AND WHO HE WAS, that would betray him.


[link to www.drbo.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17861817


The words that you say are missing are not Jesus's words. Jesus didn't say the part you put in red.

And the difference between the sentences is "he was that", not "and who he was".
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Why did King Jame's "fellas" remove those words?

I tell you why.

They make it explicit.
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PRAY for Protestants to convert at the Great Warning (Rev 6:16-17). It is "soon."

John 6:64 King James Version (KJV)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 (Douay-Rheims)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, AND WHO HE WAS, that would betray him.


[link to www.drbo.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17861817


The words that you say are missing are not Jesus's words. Jesus didn't say the part you put in red.

And the difference between the sentences is "he was that", not "and who he was".
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Why did King James, his "fellas" remove those words?

I tell you why.

The words in red make it explicit.
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grizzy The KJV of the bible has been under attack from the very beginning, because it exposes the lies of the Roman Catholic 'church.'

THE ATTACK... [link to www.chick.com]
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Fucking catholics!

Really, that remark says it all.

catholics (myself having been one) are indoctrinated to reject Christ, to reject The Gospel, and to fail to Come Unto The Father. Subtly, but still the rejection is there.

Jesus' death on the cross is NOT the great gift. HE Did NOT go willingly to the cross. Twice HE Asked Father for "another way" while in garden of gaethsemane... catholicism and the mass is entirely at odds with The Gospel.

Venerating Jesus' death is sick & perverse. HE Gave HIS Life out of Obedience Unto Father's Will, not to further the bullshit the rcc has promulgated since Constantine.


Argue about "which translation" all you fucking want. Don't really matter because God's Truth and Understanding HIS Word will be closed to you until you are Born-Again. God cannot Abide with sinners... Until you are Ezekiel 36 Born-Again, something the rcc will not admit possible, you will remain living in alienation from God. That is just where the rcc wants you and intends for you to be...
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PRAY for Protestants to convert at the Great Warning (Rev 6:16-17). It is "soon."

John 6:64 King James Version (KJV)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 (Douay-Rheims)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, AND WHO HE WAS, that would betray him.


[link to www.drbo.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17861817


Pray for protestants to convert and go BACK into BONDAGE!!

The very name protestant is to protest agianst Catholicism.

In my opinion, if the catholic church had her way the peoples would STILL be keep from the Sriptures. They would STILL be in Latin only and only the bishops would have access. If it weren't for brave men like Martin Luther. We would STILL never know about salvation by FAITH in Jesus!

Doesn't matter what version you use. When I study I use more than one translation. I also use concordances, Hebrew and Greek word studies too. King James also authorized the translated the the Aprocrypha which was included but it was made clear that it did not apply or was fit for doctrine.

In 1644 The Long Parliament decreed to omit the Apocrypha. Three years later the Westminster Confession of Faith declared that " the books commonly called the Apocrypha, not being of divine inspiration, are not not part of the canon of the Scrpitues; and therefore are of no authority in the Church of God, nor to be any otherwise approved, or made use of, than other human writings.

This is where I believe the anger toward the King James Bible comes from as far as Catholics. Its the Protestants Bible!

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Judeth and Lester,

Hi my friends and the ACs too. Prayers for you two, you all.
I love you.

Mary


Jesus meek and humble of heart, make our hearts like
unto Thine. hf
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PRAY for Protestants to convert at the Great Warning (Rev 6:16-17). It is "soon."

John 6:64 King James Version (KJV)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 (Douay-Rheims)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, AND WHO HE WAS, that would betray him.


[link to www.drbo.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17861817


Pray for protestants to convert and go BACK into BONDAGE!!

The very name protestant is to protest agianst Catholicism.

In my opinion, if the catholic church had her way the peoples would STILL be keep from the Sriptures. They would STILL be in Latin only and only the bishops would have access. If it weren't for brave men like Martin Luther. We would STILL never know about salvation by FAITH in Jesus!

Doesn't matter what version you use. When I study I use more than one translation. I also use concordances, Hebrew and Greek word studies too. King James also authorized the translated the the Aprocrypha which was included but it was made clear that it did not apply or was fit for doctrine.

In 1644 The Long Parliament decreed to omit the Apocrypha. Three years later the Westminster Confession of Faith declared that " the books commonly called the Apocrypha, not being of divine inspiration, are not not part of the canon of the Scrpitues; and therefore are of no authority in the Church of God, nor to be any otherwise approved, or made use of, than other human writings.

This is where I believe the anger toward the King James Bible comes from as far as Catholics. Its the Protestants Bible!
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...prayers for you also Interested R. rose Luther was not guided
by God. He went with the Palestinian OT Canon, the same
group who rejected Christ.

Jesus and the Apostles quoted mostly from the Septuagint,
part of the Alexandrian OT Canon.
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The Catholic Bible is produced from the Gnostic Alexandria text. The Protestant KJV uses the preserved Greek Antioch. They are different manuscripts. The Latin Vulgate was further corrupted. Understand, corrupting the Greek was impossible among the Greeks. The KJV uses the correct text.

KJV History


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Pray for Catholics, that they obey the warning from God in Revelation to "come out of her my people."
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The Catholic Bible is produced from the Gnostic Alexandria text. The Protestant KJV uses the preserved Greek Antioch. They are different manuscripts. The Latin Vulgate was further corrupted. Understand, corrupting the Greek was impossible among the Greeks. The KJV uses the correct text.

KJV History


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Pray for Catholics, that they obey the warning from God in Revelation to "come out of her my people."
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...further corrupted...

The Latin Vulgate is the first Bible, there had to be
a first brother....right?

The Palestinian OT Canon Luther went with came from the
jewish people who rejected Christ.

The KJV has thousands of changes, look at it's source, King
James was not a Godly man, nor his translators.
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It's true, Protestants have a block. You can't get them
to discuss the Real Presence. Nor here at GLP.

The Eucharist is the abduct summit abduct of the faith, the summit of belief. Why the silence? This the reason, it is the biggest difference between non-Catholic Christians and Catholic Christians.

A step in the right direction...

Stop taking it personally, "men" broke away from the
Church in the 16th century, you didn't ~!!@!

Think about it for a start. Consider changing your belief.
Pray, ask Our Lord. hf

Judas did not believe, he did not receive the Eucharist.

_ _ _ _ _

Judas Iscariot’s betrayal is directly linked to his inability to faithfully discern Christ in the New Covenant Seder Bread and Wine. That is why the narrative of John says, “So he dipped.” Notice that the Scripture does not say that Judas ate the morsel. No, the morsel (the life giving bread) did not enter Judas, but Satan did!

“So Jesus said to him, “What you are going to do, do quickly.””

The reason why Matthew and Mark quotes Jesus as saying that it would be the one (of the Twelve) who has dipped his hand with Him (who is eating with Him) who would betray Him, is because for a person to have the audacity to eat the Holy Eucharist (New Covenant Seder) Bread and Wine and not faithfully discern it to be the true Body and Blood of our Lord Christ Jesus is a great sin and betrayal! St. Paul wrote about the consequences of this failure to discern the Body and Blood rightly in this way:...


1 Cor 11:29
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord
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PRAY for Protestants to convert at the Great Warning (Rev 6:16-17). It is "soon."

John 6:64 King James Version (KJV)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 (Douay-Rheims)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, AND WHO HE WAS, that would betray him.


[link to www.drbo.org]
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Pray for catholics to 'come out of her, my people', you are in the most corrupt of the churches, worshipping isis rebadged as 'mary'.
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It's true, Protestants have a block. You can't get them
to discuss the Real Presence. Nor here at GLP.

The Eucharist is the abduct summit abduct of the faith, the summit of belief. Why the silence? This the reason, it is the biggest difference between non-Catholic Christians and Catholic Christians.

A step in the right direction...

Stop taking it personally, "men" broke away from the
Church in the 16th century, you didn't ~!!@!

Think about it for a start. Consider changing your belief.
Pray, ask Our Lord. hf

Judas did not believe, he did not receive the Eucharist.

_ _ _ _ _

Judas Iscariot’s betrayal is directly linked to his inability to faithfully discern Christ in the New Covenant Seder Bread and Wine. That is why the narrative of John says, “So he dipped.” Notice that the Scripture does not say that Judas ate the morsel. No, the morsel (the life giving bread) did not enter Judas, but Satan did!

“So Jesus said to him, “What you are going to do, do quickly.””

The reason why Matthew and Mark quotes Jesus as saying that it would be the one (of the Twelve) who has dipped his hand with Him (who is eating with Him) who would betray Him, is because for a person to have the audacity to eat the Holy Eucharist (New Covenant Seder) Bread and Wine and not faithfully discern it to be the true Body and Blood of our Lord Christ Jesus is a great sin and betrayal! St. Paul wrote about the consequences of this failure to discern the Body and Blood rightly in this way:...


1 Cor 11:29
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord
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duh, 'and then satan entered into Judas', the Judas situation is not about protestants it's about satan using people as avatars.
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PRAY for Protestants to convert at the Great Warning (Rev 6:16-17). It is "soon."

John 6:64 King James Version (KJV)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 (Douay-Rheims)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, AND WHO HE WAS, that would betray him.


[link to www.drbo.org]
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Pray for catholics to 'come out of her, my people', you are in the most corrupt of the churches, worshipping isis rebadged as 'mary'.
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Your old "pagan worship" protest is a cancel. Many things
resemble something else, that doesn't make them the same.

Pagans worshiped some stars, their false god. Jesus is
the "morning star"...seeeee.....
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hf


It's true, Protestants have a block. You can't get them
to discuss the Real Presence. Nor here at GLP.

The Eucharist is the abduct summit abduct of the faith, the summit of belief. Why the silence? This the reason, it is the biggest difference between non-Catholic Christians and Catholic Christians.

A step in the right direction...

Stop taking it personally, "men" broke away from the
Church in the 16th century, you didn't ~!!@!

Think about it for a start. Consider changing your belief.
Pray, ask Our Lord. hf

Judas did not believe, he did not receive the Eucharist.

_ _ _ _ _

Judas Iscariot’s betrayal is directly linked to his inability to faithfully discern Christ in the New Covenant Seder Bread and Wine. That is why the narrative of John says, “So he dipped.” Notice that the Scripture does not say that Judas ate the morsel. No, the morsel (the life giving bread) did not enter Judas, but Satan did!

“So Jesus said to him, “What you are going to do, do quickly.””

The reason why Matthew and Mark quotes Jesus as saying that it would be the one (of the Twelve) who has dipped his hand with Him (who is eating with Him) who would betray Him, is because for a person to have the audacity to eat the Holy Eucharist (New Covenant Seder) Bread and Wine and not faithfully discern it to be the true Body and Blood of our Lord Christ Jesus is a great sin and betrayal! St. Paul wrote about the consequences of this failure to discern the Body and Blood rightly in this way:...


1 Cor 11:29
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord
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The RCC might be the most corrupt evil institution on the planet. How brainwashed to you have to be to follow such greedy pedophilic monsters? Let's not forget the RCC is drenched in blood on top of all of its other crimes.
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The RCC might be the most corrupt evil institution on the planet. How brainwashed to you have to be to follow such greedy pedophilic monsters? Let's not forget the RCC is drenched in blood on top of all of its other crimes.
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God can't force anyone to believe.

There have been Remnants before, remember...ending up, only one family? It's going to happen again, another remnant but this time God is going to first mercifully ask all souls to become part of the Remnant.

The anti-Christ will try to take away the Eucharist, why
would he do that if it wasn't true?
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hf


It's true, Protestants have a block. You can't get them
to discuss the Real Presence. Nor here at GLP.

The Eucharist is the abduct summit abduct of the faith, the summit of belief. Why the silence? This the reason, it is the biggest difference between non-Catholic Christians and Catholic Christians.

A step in the right direction...

Stop taking it personally, "men" broke away from the
Church in the 16th century, you didn't ~!!@!

Think about it for a start. Consider changing your belief.
Pray, ask Our Lord. hf

Judas did not believe, he did not receive the Eucharist.

_ _ _ _ _

Judas Iscariot’s betrayal is directly linked to his inability to faithfully discern Christ in the New Covenant Seder Bread and Wine. That is why the narrative of John says, “So he dipped.” Notice that the Scripture does not say that Judas ate the morsel. No, the morsel (the life giving bread) did not enter Judas, but Satan did!

“So Jesus said to him, “What you are going to do, do quickly.””

The reason why Matthew and Mark quotes Jesus as saying that it would be the one (of the Twelve) who has dipped his hand with Him (who is eating with Him) who would betray Him, is because for a person to have the audacity to eat the Holy Eucharist (New Covenant Seder) Bread and Wine and not faithfully discern it to be the true Body and Blood of our Lord Christ Jesus is a great sin and betrayal! St. Paul wrote about the consequences of this failure to discern the Body and Blood rightly in this way:...


1 Cor 11:29
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord
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PRAY for Protestants to convert at the Great Warning (Rev 6:16-17). It is "soon."

John 6:64 King James Version (KJV)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 (Douay-Rheims)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, AND WHO HE WAS, that would betray him.


[link to www.drbo.org]
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Everyone needs the Holy Eucharist. Our Lord said this is
how we abide in Him and He in us.
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Biblos has all versions for your reading enjoyment.

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King James was an unauthorized translation - now there are many confusing translations and interpretations.

Mostly missing is the mystical and supernatural aspect of the Word so the 'faithful' don't recognize the full teaching and Jesus the Christ would have us understand.

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