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Bush to Propose Draft for War In Iraq

 
Paladin
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Bush to Propose Draft for War In Iraq
Bush to Propose Draft for War In Iraq
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By Political Satirist Chris Davis
Dec 7, 2005

Washington—In response to Howard Dean and the unpopular support for the war in Iraq, President Bush is planning to propose a reinstatement of the draft. The move comes after Howard Dean pronounced that America can’t win the war in Iraq, comparing it to the Vietnam War.


Time for a draft?

Bush is sending the proposal up before congress breaks for Christmas, and wants immediate action, especially after polls conclusively showed that Americans want out of Iraq. The White House is touting this sudden move as part of its campaign to ramp up support, calling it “the biggest Christmas present the American people will receive this year.”

White House Press Secretary, Scott McClellan, noted that the waning support and the lack of any good news coming out of Iraq have forced their hand. “We just don’t have any choice. If we’d have had at least one good story, we might have been able to keep the wool pulled over the American peoples’ eyes. We didn’t expect Howard Dean to reach these conclusions this quickly either. That has really set us back. So, we’re going to propose implementing the draft. The draft will keep us there as long as we want.”

Dean, the Democratic National Chairman, on Monday told a San Antonio, Texas, radio station that the United States appears to be making the same mistakes it made during the Vietnam War, and the idea that the war in Iraq can be won is “just plain wrong.”

Dean drew parallels between the current administration’s plan to turn security over to the Iraqis and efforts during the Vietnam War to give similar responsibilities to the South Vietnamese, which failed miserably, ending in communist domination of South Vietnam just two years after the troops withdrawal.

“We need to be out of there and take the targets off our troops’ back,” fired Howard Dean. “I wish the president had paid more attention to the history of Iraq before we had gotten in there,” Dean said. “The idea that we’re going to win this war is just plain wrong. Any person that’s not an idiot can see that. Bush, however, is something entirely different.”

In the face of such overwhelming pessimism, the Bush administration has begun aggressively touting the president’s war strategy. President Bush delivered a major address on the war last week at the U.S. Naval Academy and is scheduled to give another Iraq speech Wednesday, focusing on the efforts to rebuild Iraq’s infrastructure and economy through the reinstatement of the draft.

“This proposal is essential,” Vice President Cheney told reporters. “We’ve got to stay and finish the job. We simply have no other choice left in our arsenal. If the media can’t support us, and the American people can’t support us, then we’re going to give them a little taste of the Vietnam War. America will finish the job in Iraq. Period.”

“Bush doesn’t think he’s going to get away with this,” stated Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-MA. “We haven’t spent all this time winning the hearts and minds of the American people so we can stay in Iraq. We’re coming home, and that’s final!”

“Just what does President Bush think he’s doing,” said, Sen. John McCain, D-AZ. “The torture in Iraq, Guantanamo Bay, and all illegal prisons must stop. That’s why we have to bring the troops home.”

“Representative Jack Murtha is right,” noted Sen. John Kerry, D-MA. “We need an immediate withdrawal of troops. This is just the wrong war at the wrong place and at the wrong time. Bring the army of Genghis Khan home for Christmas, Mr. President. We’re only exacerbating the enemy.”

The Vietnam War and its ugly lessons have come full circle. The media, the Democratic Party and Americans have realized that the war in Iraq is a stark reminder of a quagmire effort that leads to a miserable failure. The polls are conclusive: Americans want their sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, and mothers and fathers home for Christmas.

This ugly truth has left President Bush with only the draft to finish the job.


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Excellent post. Bring it on George. :dubya: Your cannon fodder will love you even more eh.
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12/10/2005 06:06 PM
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I wonder why the pro-war, right-wing neocons aren't flocking to this thread..... lmao
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you may wish to include the rest of the story:

Political Satirist Chris Davis is the author of Elective Decisions and In Defense of Liberty, two political thrillers from the Whiskey Creek Press.
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12/10/2005 06:24 PM
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bush is a good president, he wont do that!
stop the satire!
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Wow! That is a huge turn of events!
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12/10/2005 06:34 PM
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Oh yes, cause Chris Davis knows everything.
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is it true? or not?
anyone?
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>>Bush to Propose Draft for War In Iraq
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By Political Satirist Chris Davis>>



I thought everyone knew that Political Satire was dead the day that Henry Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize.

You simply can't make up jokes that compare with the shite that's happening in real time.


cheer nuke cheer
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Medford single mother called back to active duty in Iraq

BY MARTIN C. EVANS
STAFF WRITER

December 8, 2005

While most of her friends and neighbors are amusing themselves with Christmas decorations and holiday gifts, Patricia Arndt is fretting over far more serious matters.

The single mother from Medford has been unexpectedly pulled from the inactive Army reserve and ordered to report for active duty by Feb. 5.

As Christmas nears, Arndt, 43, is trying to sell the Medford home she says she will not be able to keep on an Army salary of approximately $60,000 a year, and is searching for someone to care for her 13-year-old son, Shane. She expects to train for an 18-month tour of duty that could take her to Iraq or Afghanistan.

She said she never saw her return to active duty as a possibility. "Never in a million years," she said.

"This is a very hard thing for me," she said. "I absolutely love my country. I feel I owe it to the Army and my fellow soldiers, because I wouldn't be here without them.

"If I were a reservist assigned to a unit, I'd have been trained and informed of the possibility that I would be called. I'm not prepared for this."

U.S. Army officials said Arndt is not being treated unfairly.

"Single parents are treated no differently than any other soldier, and are expected to have a family care plan at all times," said Army spokeswoman Lt. Col. Pamela Hart.

Arndt, a respiratory therapist at Brookhaven Memorial Hospital Medical Center and a small-business owner, has been called back to active status after 20 years as a reservist. She spent four years of active duty in the Army in the 1980s based in Germany prior to becoming "an individual mobilization augmentee reservist" -- which required her to fill in for regular duty soldiers called to overseas duty.

Last year, she said, she was transferred to another category called the Individual Ready Reserve, which made her eligible for a combat assignment. She is to report to Fort Jackson, S.C.

Her return to active duty will leave her teenage son without a parent for 18 months, she said, and cost her more than $100,000 in income during that time.

As the U.S. Army has lagged in meeting recruiting goals, Arndt's story is another indication of how the ongoing war in Iraq is forcing bigger responsibilities onto the shoulders of a relatively small number of military personnel. Officials have said that many of the 172,000 troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan are on their second or third tours of duty.

Increasingly, the military has turned to so-called stop-loss orders -- preventing some military personnel from retiring -- and to National Guard soldiers or older reservists to fill the ranks.

According to Army officials, approximately 110,000 Army personnel are listed in the Individual Ready Reserve. By law, they may be called up for as long as two years to fill vacancies. But because they are not attached to any unit, they may go years without the training and supervision needed to transition back to active duty, officials said. The Army has traditionally not sent IRR soldiers into battle.

The war in Iraq, now 21/2 years old, has changed that. Currently, more than 6,500 ready reservists have been called back to active duty, including Chief Warrant Officer Margaret Murray, 56, of Schenectady. While receiving training at Fort Jackson last year, Murray told Newsday that she hoped she would not be sent into combat. If she is sent, she said, "I'll do the best I can."

Pentagon officials say soldiers who volunteered for the reserves knew they could be called up at any time.

"Why I got activated and called, I have no idea," Arndt said. "People have no idea what this is doing to families."

Almost half of IRR members who have been reactivated have asked to have their recalls delayed or eliminated, officials said. Of those requests, one quarter were from single parents or other soldiers with family problems arranging for the care of a child or other dependent. The remainder were for medical reasons, financial hardship or other difficulties.

Arndt, who is also appealing her orders, is far from alone. Almost 8 percent of all current Army personnel -- and 13.8 percent of female soldiers -- are single parents, the officials said.

Arndt, who never married, at first arranged to have Shane live with her sister. But those plans are in danger of falling through, she said, because of family problems. She said her son's emotional well-being worries her the most.

"He says, 'My father's not here, you're not here, why should I be here?'" Arndt said. "His life as he knows it is gone."
Copyright 2005 Newsday Inc



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The only reason the war is going on now is because people dont give a shit. Now put their children in it with a draft and youll have a shit load of americans that will give a shit. BUSH DOES NOT WANT THAT. So him reinstating a draft is a myth unless it was to follow a terrorist attack or something similar. I seriously dount it.
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"White House Press Secretary, Scott McClellan, noted that the waning support and the lack of any good news coming out of Iraq have forced their hand. “We just don’t have any choice. If we’d have had at least one good story, we might have been able to keep the wool pulled over the American peoples’ eyes. We didn’t expect Howard Dean to reach these conclusions this quickly either. That has really set us back. So, we’re going to propose implementing the draft. The draft will keep us there as long as we want.”"

Thats funny.
You guys think that article is real?
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I must be stupid.. I thought it was for a little while.. Damn...
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and just when i thought those on the left couldnt get any more stupid.
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12/10/2005 08:38 PM
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In case you have not been keeping up, bush could not propose a toast with his poll numbers as they are. :dubya:
Paladin
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lmao


and who said the left is not fair and balanced





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