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So what is her motivation?
 Quoting: Possum


I have said, for years, that Nancy is possessed. That is her motivation.
 Quoting: Menow 18096838


Don't know if she's actually possessed, but her like most other channelers are not communicating with the Ascended Host or Masters from Heaven. There are 4 realms within the material universe which we exist in. We are in the only physical realm. There are 3 other realms that are non-physical or spirit. The beings within these other 3 realms are the ones most channelers are in communication with. And they WILL call themselves Jesus, Sananda, Haton, Mother Mary, St. Germain, etc. True discernment is needed when channeling at all, as over 90% are not beings or entities from Heaven. You may get much truth from these beings, but you may get caught up in a web of half truths or out right lies. Channelers become willing pawns for these entities thinking they are helping mankind, when in reality they are adding to the confusion. Sorry zeta talk, fourwinds10, abundant hope, galactic messages, your not channeling the true Ascended Host from Heaven.
 Quoting: ATONTRUTH


that`s pretty much true.....

i would like to add that channeling is for amateurs....

the pros go astral traveling to talk with beings in the higher realms....

by the way niburu is coming....

and you don`t need a channeler to tell you that...

but our main interest this year will be solar max...

if you can get by that one....

you`ll have plenty on your plate....
Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy!
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So what is her motivation?
 Quoting: Possum


I have said, for years, that Nancy is possessed. That is her motivation.
 Quoting: Menow 18096838


Don't know if she's actually possessed, but her like most other channelers are not communicating with the Ascended Host or Masters from Heaven. There are 4 realms within the material universe which we exist in. We are in the only physical realm. There are 3 other realms that are non-physical or spirit. The beings within these other 3 realms are the ones most channelers are in communication with. And they WILL call themselves Jesus, Sananda, Haton, Mother Mary, St. Germain, etc. True discernment is needed when channeling at all, as over 90% are not beings or entities from Heaven. You may get much truth from these beings, but you may get caught up in a web of half truths or out right lies. Channelers become willing pawns for these entities thinking they are helping mankind, when in reality they are adding to the confusion. Sorry zeta talk, fourwinds10, abundant hope, galactic messages, your not channeling the true Ascended Host from Heaven.
 Quoting: ATONTRUTH


that`s pretty much true.....

i would like to add that channeling is for amateurs....

the pros go astral traveling to talk with beings in the higher realms....

by the way niburu is coming....

and you don`t need a channeler to tell you that...

but our main interest this year will be solar max...

if you can get by that one....

you`ll have plenty on your plate....
 Quoting: mr...bojangles


This is true. The "debunkers" might even have had an argument, if it weren't for the facts:

(1) FEMA is building stockades nationwide
(2) A seed bank had been put in place
(3) Underground cities are being built, along with underground roadways leading to key areas
(4) The governments are buying up nearly all the freeze dried foods, along with plenty of arms, and ammunition
(5) NASA has schooled its employees about emergency preparedness

There are many more very good reasons to heed warning of impending doom, however, the few mentioned above is enough to convince me there is something amiss that will be happening in the months if not days ahead. The signs are obvious, and I do not mean just “crop circles”.

Instead of the debunkers trying to get answers from GLP, wouldn't it be more reasonable to go to the source, and ask the governments why they are spending all this tax money on projects that could be better spent elsewhere, if there is nothing really alarming to be concerned about? Yes, I know....anyway, I felt is was a good spot to add a little humor, knowing full well you would never be handed the truth.
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This is true. The "debunkers" might even have had an argument, if it weren't for the facts:

(1) FEMA is building stockades nationwide
(2) A seed bank had been put in place
(3) Underground cities are being built, along with underground roadways leading to key areas
(4) The governments are buying up nearly all the freeze dried foods, along with plenty of arms, and ammunition
(5) NASA has schooled its employees about emergency preparedness

There are many more very good reasons to heed warning of impending doom, however, the few mentioned above is enough to convince me there is something amiss that will be happening in the months if not days ahead. The signs are obvious, and I do not mean just “crop circles”.

Instead of the debunkers trying to get answers from GLP, wouldn't it be more reasonable to go to the source, and ask the governments why they are spending all this tax money on projects that could be better spent elsewhere, if there is nothing really alarming to be concerned about? Yes, I know....anyway, I felt is was a good spot to add a little humor, knowing full well you would never be handed the truth.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


Before you read the rest, I don't trust or buy EVERY bit government propoganda put out, however, in order:

#1 While I concede some truth to FEMA using former military base grounds as Emergency holding facilities, calling them nationwide stockades is a little over the top. Count how many (if you can) figure out the number of people they can 'detain' then compare to the current U.S. population. No way is this for rounding up every miscreant out there.
#2 This is prudent of ANY SOCIETY to do, just in case.
#3 Source?
#4 "Nearly all," again, Source?
#5 Again, merely a prudent act for any organization.

So, how's that proof of impending doom?

Peace,

DP
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This is true. The "debunkers" might even have had an argument, if it weren't for the facts:

(1) FEMA is building stockades nationwide
(2) A seed bank had been put in place
(3) Underground cities are being built, along with underground roadways leading to key areas
(4) The governments are buying up nearly all the freeze dried foods, along with plenty of arms, and ammunition
(5) NASA has schooled its employees about emergency preparedness

There are many more very good reasons to heed warning of impending doom, however, the few mentioned above is enough to convince me there is something amiss that will be happening in the months if not days ahead. The signs are obvious, and I do not mean just “crop circles”.

Instead of the debunkers trying to get answers from GLP, wouldn't it be more reasonable to go to the source, and ask the governments why they are spending all this tax money on projects that could be better spent elsewhere, if there is nothing really alarming to be concerned about? Yes, I know....anyway, I felt is was a good spot to add a little humor, knowing full well you would never be handed the truth.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


Before you read the rest, I don't trust or buy EVERY bit government propoganda put out, however, in order:

#1 While I concede some truth to FEMA using former military base grounds as Emergency holding facilities, calling them nationwide stockades is a little over the top. Count how many (if you can) figure out the number of people they can 'detain' then compare to the current U.S. population. No way is this for rounding up every miscreant out there.
#2 This is prudent of ANY SOCIETY to do, just in case.
#3 Source?
#4 "Nearly all," again, Source?
#5 Again, merely a prudent act for any organization.

So, how's that proof of impending doom?

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


Hey....I understand. Sometimes the "fear" is so overwhelming, it is easy to ignore the obvious, and refuse to acknowledge any fact of impending doom. Just in case this is a reason you might be trying to conceal, I took the time to research the stockade agenda. If you are satisfied with the government answer, then I feel it is apparently just your way of comforting your fears through self deception.

Detainment Camps


       Stated Purpose

Little has been said about the purpose of the detainment camps but when official comment has been made it has stated that the camps are for the temporary detainment of illegal immigrants.
 
       Quantity and Locations

Citizens who are concerned about the purpose and potential use of the detainment camps have documented and, when possible, filmed the detainment facilities. A current estimate of the number of detainment camps is over 800 located in all regions of the United States with varying maximum capacities. If one includes government buildings currently used for other purposes the number is far greater. Video of renovated but empty detainment camps has also been released.
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I used to frequent the ZT site but they had such strict rules as to what could be openly discussed and even believed that i soon passed it buy.

With an active membership it was easy to access the site.
Not logging in and going as "guest" I would be continually banned not even posting anything.
It was very clear that their site is set up only to sell memberships and make a profit.

Anytime someone tried to discuss any theories different than Nancy's they got a warning and then the permanent boot.

It's a pretty worthless site. IMO


GLP is a 1000 times better for fringe news reports and such and though people here clash over discussions everyone brings tons of fresh theories and news to the table without being censored.
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Nancy is the figurehead. ZT is a governmental operation, don't get me wrong nibiru is returning but they are giving out real info along with lot's of disinfo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13146743




one of satans favorite stereotypical diatribal techniques

true story with a 90 degree twist at the end to make the entire statement a LIE

lol

impossible not to spot it as such, in truth
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This is true. The "debunkers" might even have had an argument, if it weren't for the facts:

(1) FEMA is building stockades nationwide
(2) A seed bank had been put in place
(3) Underground cities are being built, along with underground roadways leading to key areas
(4) The governments are buying up nearly all the freeze dried foods, along with plenty of arms, and ammunition
(5) NASA has schooled its employees about emergency preparedness

There are many more very good reasons to heed warning of impending doom, however, the few mentioned above is enough to convince me there is something amiss that will be happening in the months if not days ahead. The signs are obvious, and I do not mean just “crop circles”.

Instead of the debunkers trying to get answers from GLP, wouldn't it be more reasonable to go to the source, and ask the governments why they are spending all this tax money on projects that could be better spent elsewhere, if there is nothing really alarming to be concerned about? Yes, I know....anyway, I felt is was a good spot to add a little humor, knowing full well you would never be handed the truth.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


Before you read the rest, I don't trust or buy EVERY bit government propoganda put out, however, in order:

#1 While I concede some truth to FEMA using former military base grounds as Emergency holding facilities, calling them nationwide stockades is a little over the top. Count how many (if you can) figure out the number of people they can 'detain' then compare to the current U.S. population. No way is this for rounding up every miscreant out there.
#2 This is prudent of ANY SOCIETY to do, just in case.
#3 Source?
#4 "Nearly all," again, Source?
#5 Again, merely a prudent act for any organization.

So, how's that proof of impending doom?

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


Hey....I understand. Sometimes the "fear" is so overwhelming, it is easy to ignore the obvious, and refuse to acknowledge any fact of impending doom. Just in case this is a reason you might be trying to conceal, I took the time to research the stockade agenda. If you are satisfied with the government answer, then I feel it is apparently just your way of comforting your fears through self deception.

Detainment Camps


       Stated Purpose

Little has been said about the purpose of the detainment camps but when official comment has been made it has stated that the camps are for the temporary detainment of illegal immigrants.
 
       Quantity and Locations

Citizens who are concerned about the purpose and potential use of the detainment camps have documented and, when possible, filmed the detainment facilities. A current estimate of the number of detainment camps is over 800 located in all regions of the United States with varying maximum capacities. If one includes government buildings currently used for other purposes the number is far greater. Video of renovated but empty detainment camps has also been released.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


How doe government stupidity equal PX/Zetatalk right?
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This is true. The "debunkers" might even have had an argument, if it weren't for the facts:

(1) FEMA is building stockades nationwide
(2) A seed bank had been put in place
(3) Underground cities are being built, along with underground roadways leading to key areas
(4) The governments are buying up nearly all the freeze dried foods, along with plenty of arms, and ammunition
(5) NASA has schooled its employees about emergency preparedness

There are many more very good reasons to heed warning of impending doom, however, the few mentioned above is enough to convince me there is something amiss that will be happening in the months if not days ahead. The signs are obvious, and I do not mean just “crop circles”.

Instead of the debunkers trying to get answers from GLP, wouldn't it be more reasonable to go to the source, and ask the governments why they are spending all this tax money on projects that could be better spent elsewhere, if there is nothing really alarming to be concerned about? Yes, I know....anyway, I felt is was a good spot to add a little humor, knowing full well you would never be handed the truth.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


Before you read the rest, I don't trust or buy EVERY bit government propoganda put out, however, in order:

#1 While I concede some truth to FEMA using former military base grounds as Emergency holding facilities, calling them nationwide stockades is a little over the top. Count how many (if you can) figure out the number of people they can 'detain' then compare to the current U.S. population. No way is this for rounding up every miscreant out there.
#2 This is prudent of ANY SOCIETY to do, just in case.
#3 Source?
#4 "Nearly all," again, Source?
#5 Again, merely a prudent act for any organization.

So, how's that proof of impending doom?

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


Hey....I understand. Sometimes the "fear" is so overwhelming, it is easy to ignore the obvious, and refuse to acknowledge any fact of impending doom. Just in case this is a reason you might be trying to conceal, I took the time to research the stockade agenda. If you are satisfied with the government answer, then I feel it is apparently just your way of comforting your fears through self deception.

Detainment Camps


       Stated Purpose

Little has been said about the purpose of the detainment camps but when official comment has been made it has stated that the camps are for the temporary detainment of illegal immigrants.
 
       Quantity and Locations

Citizens who are concerned about the purpose and potential use of the detainment camps have documented and, when possible, filmed the detainment facilities. A current estimate of the number of detainment camps is over 800 located in all regions of the United States with varying maximum capacities. If one includes government buildings currently used for other purposes the number is far greater. Video of renovated but empty detainment camps has also been released.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


How doe government stupidity equal PX/Zetatalk right?
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Governments may sometimes APPEAR to be "stupid", they are however, far from that. In any National, or Global emergency, led by chaos, there is always rioting, and looting. If I was to guess, the tactics, in this case, would be to warn anyone caught venturing outside their home would be shot, or imprisoned, in anyone of the numerous detainment camps. Order would definitely have to be maintained, thru "Marshall law", if there would be any chance for recovery to a more organized society. Controlling the "crazies" is a means to that end.

Above, is the anticipated "lesser" case scenario, brought on by a "Nibiru". If "complete" destruction occurs, it will not matter, one way, or the other.
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Nancy is as full of shit as a christmas goose
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Nancy is as full of shit as a christmas goose
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An opinion, along with an insult. A typical "debunker", you are. Most of your kind are a bunch of frightened little "rabbits", hiding behind your computer, posting anonymous, and waving BS flags. Composing a one line sentence, using four letter words, is not a sign of intelligence bearing any significance to any conversation.

Instead of showing your rear, why don't you just take your old 1988 pickup to town, and go drink a couple of beers with your low level drinking buddies? I'm sure they would appreciate your nasty language, since they most likely relate to it.
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Mirror of the documents as pdf (for those who can't access the originals at google):


ZT EXPOSED! - Insights from a longtime Moderator (15/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 1 (16/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 2 (19/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]


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 Quoting: Hydra


There's even more now.
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There's even more now.
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Thanks for the information.

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Mirror of the documents as pdf (for those who can't access the originals at google):


ZT EXPOSED! - Insights from a longtime Moderator (15/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 1 (16/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 2 (19/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 3 (21/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 4 (24/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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This is true. The "debunkers" might even have had an argument, if it weren't for the facts:

(1) FEMA is building stockades nationwide
(2) A seed bank had been put in place
(3) Underground cities are being built, along with underground roadways leading to key areas
(4) The governments are buying up nearly all the freeze dried foods, along with plenty of arms, and ammunition
(5) NASA has schooled its employees about emergency preparedness

There are many more very good reasons to heed warning of impending doom, however, the few mentioned above is enough to convince me there is something amiss that will be happening in the months if not days ahead. The signs are obvious, and I do not mean just “crop circles”.

Instead of the debunkers trying to get answers from GLP, wouldn't it be more reasonable to go to the source, and ask the governments why they are spending all this tax money on projects that could be better spent elsewhere, if there is nothing really alarming to be concerned about? Yes, I know....anyway, I felt is was a good spot to add a little humor, knowing full well you would never be handed the truth.
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More shotgunning of vague innuendo, while steadfastly avoiding the simple FACT that there is no rogue planet hovering near the sun, or anywhere else in the Solar System.
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I knew that some day people would see the light and discover that this Nancy person is a fraud and a lair.

I'll never forget the pictures she posted around 2007 or so claiming they were of Nibiru. They were nothing more than lens flares, sundogs and other stuff that was/is NOT Nibiru!

Nice one, OP!

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I knew that some day people would see the light and discover that this Nancy person is a fraud and a lair.

I'll never forget the pictures she posted around 2007 or so claiming they were of Nibiru. They were nothing more than lens flares, sundogs and other stuff that was/is NOT Nibiru!

Nice one, OP!

:jimsdrinks:
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Don't forget the KITE!!!
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Haha i lol'd.
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Anything new happening over there?
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Anything new happening over there?
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Yes - Alberto (the inventor of the hilarious floppy disc filter) has presented his collected set of lens and filter flares, called Planet X.

Very agile PX, jumping around like a ferret on ecstasy - up, down left, right within hours or even minutes.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Can someone calculate the orbit?

lolsign


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Anything new happening over there?
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Yes - Alberto (the inventor of the hilarious floppy disc filter) has presented his collected set of lens and filter flares, called Planet X.

Very agile PX, jumping around like a ferret on ecstasy - up, down left, right within hours or even minutes.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Can someone calculate the orbit?

lolsign


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It's kind of like an electrons.....

Everywhere you look
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Anything new happening over there?
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Yes - Alberto (the inventor of the hilarious floppy disc filter) has presented his collected set of lens and filter flares, called Planet X.

Very agile PX, jumping around like a ferret on ecstasy - up, down left, right within hours or even minutes.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Can someone calculate the orbit?

lolsign


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yes it's so true , it makes me laugh everytime i saw his photos ... and read his queen mother's comment. still waiting for my country to be 40 ft under water....
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Thanks for the update! More Venus Transit balderdash from Nancy.
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Another update online (28 / 06 / 2012): [link to docs.google.com]

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Mirror of the documents as pdf (for those who can't access the originals at google):


ZT EXPOSED! - Insights from a longtime Moderator (15/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 1 (16/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 2 (19/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 3 (21/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 4 (24/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]

ZT EXPOSED!- Update 5 (28/06/2012): [link to p-m-a.org]


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
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Thanks for the update! More Venus Transit balderdash from Nancy.
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You are being absurd....typical for a debunker. Suppose someone beats the tar out of you, and you walk away very badly bruised, without having any broken bones. An observer of your condition could say....”Because of your not having any broken bones, you could not have had the unfortunate event of getting beat up.”

There are many reasons why people believe Planet X has arrived. The most obvious rationality points to the fact there is an unknown force causing collective damage to our Planet. "Most" of the chaos we are now increasingly experiencing was foretold by the Zetas, a while back, when there was no evidence, at the time, these events would actually happen.

Bottom line....you are a hopeless chronic "debunker" and would like very much for Nancy Lieder to go away so you can say YOU were right. Your overblown ego coupled with your rage of getting banned, fuels your extreme hatred, thus overwhelming your ability to reason, and to express doubt you could be possibility wrong.
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Thanks for the update! More Venus Transit balderdash from Nancy.
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There are many reasons why people believe Planet X has arrived. The most obvious rationality points to the fact there is an unknown force causing collective damage to our Planet. "Most" of the chaos we are now increasingly experiencing was foretold by the Zetas, a while back, when there was no evidence, at the time, these events would actually happen.
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Really? Name them, and be specific. Then, also as a baseline, name years in the past where similar events did not occur. Then, as icing on the cake, specifically explain how an unknown, invisible planet could be causing such things.

My rationality regarding Zetatalk is very simple:

They claimed PX would pass in 2003. False.
They claimed Earth is halted in its orbit around the Sun. False.
They claimed 100 percent predictive accuracy. False.

Three strikes, Volar. How many *should* I give them?

Bottom line....you are a hopeless chronic "debunker"
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What does that even mean?

and would like very much for Nancy Lieder to go away so you can say YOU were right.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


I can say I was right *now.* I said PX would not show up in 2003, and it didn't. I stuck with traditional astronomical predictions, and they've ALL come to pass: a total impossibility were ZT right.

And I don't want Nancy to go away -- that's a lot of free entertainment that would vanish!

Your overblown ego coupled with your rage of getting banned, fuels your extreme hatred, thus overwhelming your ability to reason, and to express doubt you could be possibility wrong.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


Any rage you are reading into my posts rest entirely in your own imagination. I don't hate anyone.

Now -- where is YOUR ability to face the possibility that YOU could be possibly wrong? And what evidence could POSSIBLY convince you that PX is a myth, and that ZT is wrong?
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Thanks for the update! More Venus Transit balderdash from Nancy.
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There are many reasons why people believe Planet X has arrived. The most obvious rationality points to the fact there is an unknown force causing collective damage to our Planet. "Most" of the chaos we are now increasingly experiencing was foretold by the Zetas, a while back, when there was no evidence, at the time, these events would actually happen.
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Really? Name them, and be specific. Then, also as a baseline, name years in the past where similar events did not occur. Then, as icing on the cake, specifically explain how an unknown, invisible planet could be causing such things.
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All your questions have been answered many times over. If you are still not satisfied, it is not my fault, nor my responsibility to make you happy.

Yes, maybe all the calamities occurring now, have most likely happened in past history. It just does not happen, in all categories, all at once, unless there is an unknown force causing the problem. If you would only allow yourself to compare, there has been a big change in the number of events now, compared to the very few we had in the nineties. This is what everyone is/was trying to tell you, and why the belief in Planet X will get stronger, as the events continue to increase....up until the last moment.

Denial has many faces. Our attitude, and the way we treat other people weighs heavily on those who do not think there will be a paved way to a better life after all this is over. Regardless, of how YOU feel, the payoff is just around the corner.
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All your questions have been answered many times over. If you are still not satisfied, it is not my fault, nor my responsibility to make you happy.

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Of course you are lying... again.

Here's a simple question for you: Where is this "PX"? Please do be specific.
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All your questions have been answered many times over. If you are still not satisfied, it is not my fault, nor my responsibility to make you happy.

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Of course you are lying... again.

Here's a simple question for you: Where is this "PX"? Please do be specific.
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I have no idea where Planet X is, since it allegedly moves around. There are those who show pics, and videos, believing it hovers near the Sun, however, it being a dwarf star could most likely mean it only appears in rare moments, when angular, or atmospheric conditions are right...much like the "Moon" in daylight hours. It also could be cloaked, for all I know. There are a wide range of possibilities, since this is our only experience with an entity we know nothing about.

As far as evidence goes, a good example would be comparable to a "bullet" that all of a sudden goes whizzing by your head. Your first thought would be that someone is shooting at you, and you would probably be right. This is the same logic we feel about Planet X. The only difference is the Zetas are telling us what the cause is.
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Thanks for the update! More Venus Transit balderdash from Nancy.
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There are many reasons why people believe Planet X has arrived. The most obvious rationality points to the fact there is an unknown force causing collective damage to our Planet. "Most" of the chaos we are now increasingly experiencing was foretold by the Zetas, a while back, when there was no evidence, at the time, these events would actually happen.
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Really? Name them, and be specific. Then, also as a baseline, name years in the past where similar events did not occur. Then, as icing on the cake, specifically explain how an unknown, invisible planet could be causing such things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


All your questions have been answered many times over. If you are still not satisfied, it is not my fault, nor my responsibility to make you happy.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


I have only seen evidence of the believer's inability to specifically answer. You have added to that evidence.


Yes, maybe all the calamities occurring now, have most likely happened in past history. It just does not happen, in all categories, all at once, unless there is an unknown force causing the problem. If you would only allow yourself to compare, there has been a big change in the number of events now, compared to the very few we had in the nineties.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


Prove it.

This is what everyone is/was trying to tell you, and why the belief in Planet X will get stronger, as the events continue to increase....up until the last moment.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


And if 2012 comes and goes without this last moment? And 2013? And 2016?

You know: the way 2003 came and went?

Denial has many faces.
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Yes. You wear one when you look in the mirror; as you continually deny the possibility that PX is a myth and Nancy is utterly wrong.

Our attitude, and the way we treat other people weighs heavily on those who do not think there will be a paved way to a better life after all this is over. Regardless, of how YOU feel, the payoff is just around the corner.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


Utter evasion of my questions noted.

Now -- where is YOUR ability to face the possibility that YOU could be possibly wrong? And what evidence could POSSIBLY convince you that PX is a myth, and that ZT is wrong?
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Utter evasion of my questions noted.

Now -- where is YOUR ability to face the possibility that YOU could be possibly wrong? And what evidence could POSSIBLY convince you that PX is a myth, and that ZT is wrong?
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Like I have continually said, time and time again....you may never be satisfied with any given answer, since you already have your mind made up to debunk any, and everything presented to you about Planet X. As far as proof is concerned, there are loads of it on the net. There is, of course, the matter of if you believe it, or not. So....after analyzing all the data, events, and probabilities, I have made up my mind as well....that there is a force on this Planet we have not reckoned with in my lifetime, or any other era of recorded past history....if you do not count ancient writings.

Again....no-one is going to force you to believe anything you do not wish to. This is only about sharing one's belief, without all the harsh insults, and vulgar language. My patience only goes so far, if you stubbornly continue to demand answers you obviously have no intention of accepting. The answers you would like to hear, probably does not exist, anyway.

As “Billy Bass” says, “Be happy, don't worry.” Very good advice, indeed.
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Utter evasion of my questions noted.

Now -- where is YOUR ability to face the possibility that YOU could be possibly wrong? And what evidence could POSSIBLY convince you that PX is a myth, and that ZT is wrong?
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Like I have continually said, time and time again....you may never be satisfied with any given answer, since you already have your mind made up to debunk any, and everything presented to you about Planet X.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


You are, as usual, quite wrong. I have very specific evidenciary requirements that, if met, would prove PX to me.

Among those requirements include:

- Testing and finding that heavenly objects are not moving in their predicted paths.

- Star Trails pictures demonstrating the figure-eight wobble supposedly occurring in the Earth every eight hours.

- The RA and DEC of the Earth's Dark Twin, that I might observe it myself.

- An explanation on how certain constellations, lost in the Sun's glare if Earth were halted in the August position (as Nancy claims) continue to rise and set on time, since the ONLY motion that makes that possible is Earth continuing to move around the Sun.

I don't feel those are particularly tall orders, given the absurd suspension of disbelief Nancy demands.


As far as proof is concerned, there are loads of it on the net. There is, of course, the matter of if you believe it, or not. So....after analyzing all the data, events, and probabilities, I have made up my mind as well....that there is a force on this Planet we have not reckoned with in my lifetime, or any other era of recorded past history....if you do not count ancient writings.
 Quoting: Volar 17466239


You touch briefly on the question I want answered and then shy away again.

How can you demand in others what you cannot do yourself? You demand others face the possibility that they are wrong, and that Nancy is correct. I am, conversely, asking you the EXACT same thing. Where is YOUR ability to face the possibility that YOU could be possibly wrong? And what evidence could POSSIBLY convince you that PX is a myth, and that ZT is wrong?

You say above that you have your mind made up, and imply that there is absolutely no evidence that can change your mind, ever, regarding the veracity of Nancy's claims. Is this correct? You can envision NO WAY to EVER doubt Nancy, and the PX story, no matter how long it fails to show up?

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