I no longer drive, I "travel". You cannot be stopped for travelling? | |
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Eagle # 1 User ID: 2102376 United States 06/17/2012 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's NOT just the 'laws' ! There ARE over 17,000,000 laws, RULES, REGULATIONS, and STATUTES in these 50 states. Made by PARASITIC politicians, lawyers and bankers to USE in THEIR contract courts, under 'admiralty law ! As soon as they trick you into being/admitting your a fictional person (corporation) by you answering YES to the question " Is that person here", after calling out your name. The whole set up has been rigged to deprive YOU of MONEY for their pockets, as these crooks produce nothing but misery for hard working Americans. But then, the United States of America is a CORPORATION and the Constitution was done AWAY with in 1871. UNTIL you know/understand that, you ARE just one of their 'free range sheep' waiting to be sheered OR slaughtered, at THEIR whim ! Eagle |
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BRIEF User ID: 17480590 United States 06/17/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2487017 United States 06/17/2012 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have the right to travel but to travel in an automobile is a privilege...only after you prove you have the necessary skills, knowledge, and financial responsibility to operate the machine can you get a license to travel in a car. Quoting: BRIEF “The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business is a common right which he has under his right to enjoy life and liberty.... It includes the right in so doing to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day; and under existing modes of travel includes the right to drive a horse-drawn carriage or wagon thereon, or to operate an automobile thereon for the usual and ordinary purposes of life and business. It is not a mere privilege, like the privilege of moving a house in the street, operating a business stand in the street, or transporting persons or property for hire along the street, which the city may permit or prohibit at will.” --Thompson v. Smith, 154 S.E. 579. Thread: No Car registration is required by law. Check it out. |
Anonymous User ID: 11937692 United States 06/17/2012 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Personal liberty largely consists of the Right of locomotion -- to go where and when one pleases -- only so far restrained as the Rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens. The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horsedrawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but the common Right which he has under his Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Under this Constitutional guarantee one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's Rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct." Quoting: Scuba7 II Am.Jur. (1st) Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p.1135 "Personal liberty -- consists of the power of locomotion, of changing situations, of removing one's person to whatever place one's inclination may direct, without imprisonment or restraint unless by due process of law." Bovier's Law Dictionary, 1914 ed., Black's Law Dictionary, 5th ed.; Blackstone's Commentary 134; Hare, Constitution__Pg. 777 What does that really mean; "without imprisonment or restraint unless by due process of law"? Maybe your forgetting that they ammend laws and pass new ones like NDAA, Patriot Act, Posse Comitatus, and so on and so on and so on!!!! You guys are well aware of what's been passed and hasn't since, Bush and Obummer. |
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BRIEF User ID: 17480590 United States 06/17/2012 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're just another ignoramus who propagates incorrect information cause you want everybody else to be chained just like you are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2487017 Actually we just don't want your uninsured piece of shit sideswiping us on the road because you're a nondriving irresponsible asshole... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2487017 United States 06/17/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're just another ignoramus who propagates incorrect information cause you want everybody else to be chained just like you are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2487017 Actually we just don't want your uninsured piece of shit sideswiping us on the road because you're a nondriving irresponsible asshole... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17875981 United States 06/17/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're just another ignoramus who propagates incorrect information cause you want everybody else to be chained just like you are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2487017 Actually we just don't want your uninsured piece of shit sideswiping us on the road because you're a nondriving irresponsible asshole... What if your state doesn't require insurance? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17881579 United Kingdom 06/17/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does that really mean; "without imprisonment or restraint unless by due process of law"? Quoting: Scuba7 It means they have a get out clause, so they can shuffle the deck and change the rules. So that means Brief above is correct. The law is changed to require you to licence a car, you are required to licence a car. Unless you want to reject all law, including all laws you believe a just and correct, you have to obey the law even if you dont like it. Law isnt somthing you pick an chose. You can pick and chose your representitives and hope/petition them to change the law - thats the whole point of the process. |
BRIEF User ID: 17480590 United States 06/17/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're just another ignoramus who propagates incorrect information cause you want everybody else to be chained just like you are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2487017 Actually we just don't want your uninsured piece of shit sideswiping us on the road because you're a nondriving irresponsible asshole... What if your state doesn't require insurance? There are states that don't require insurance? I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17875981 United States 06/17/2012 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2487017 you're just another ignoramus who propagates incorrect information cause you want everybody else to be chained just like you are Actually we just don't want your uninsured piece of shit sideswiping us on the road because you're a nondriving irresponsible asshole... What if your state doesn't require insurance? There are states that don't require insurance? New Hampshire |
BRIEF User ID: 17480590 United States 06/17/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF Actually we just don't want your uninsured piece of shit sideswiping us on the road because you're a nondriving irresponsible asshole... What if your state doesn't require insurance? There are states that don't require insurance? New Hampshire Glad I have uninsured motorist on my policy...that's just dumb to not require insurance... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4619492 United States 06/17/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2487017 you're just another ignoramus who propagates incorrect information cause you want everybody else to be chained just like you are Actually we just don't want your uninsured piece of shit sideswiping us on the road because you're a nondriving irresponsible asshole... What if your state doesn't require insurance? There are states that don't require insurance? if your traveling no state requires it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4619492 United States 06/17/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Personal liberty largely consists of the Right of locomotion -- to go where and when one pleases -- only so far restrained as the Rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens. The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horsedrawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but the common Right which he has under his Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Under this Constitutional guarantee one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's Rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct." Quoting: Scuba7 II Am.Jur. (1st) Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p.1135 "Personal liberty -- consists of the power of locomotion, of changing situations, of removing one's person to whatever place one's inclination may direct, without imprisonment or restraint unless by due process of law." Bovier's Law Dictionary, 1914 ed., Black's Law Dictionary, 5th ed.; Blackstone's Commentary 134; Hare, Constitution__Pg. 777 What does that really mean; "without imprisonment or restraint unless by due process of law"? travel on travelers. cool post, gets folks a thinking. +1 |
Ludikrus User ID: 12877760 United States 06/17/2012 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's NOT just the 'laws' ! Quoting: Eagle # 1 2102376 There ARE over 17,000,000 laws, RULES, REGULATIONS, and STATUTES in these 50 states. Made by PARASITIC politicians, lawyers and bankers to USE in THEIR contract courts, under 'admiralty law ! As soon as they trick you into being/admitting your a fictional person (corporation) by you answering YES to the question " Is that person here", after calling out your name. The whole set up has been rigged to deprive YOU of MONEY for their pockets, as these crooks produce nothing but misery for hard working Americans. But then, the United States of America is a CORPORATION and the Constitution was done AWAY with in 1871. UNTIL you know/understand that, you ARE just one of their 'free range sheep' waiting to be sheered OR slaughtered, at THEIR whim ! Eagle |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15502862 India 06/17/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's NOT just the 'laws' ! Quoting: Eagle # 1 2102376 There ARE over 17,000,000 laws, RULES, REGULATIONS, and STATUTES in these 50 states. Made by PARASITIC politicians, lawyers and bankers to USE in THEIR contract courts, under 'admiralty law ! As soon as they trick you into being/admitting your a fictional person (corporation) by you answering YES to the question " Is that person here", after calling out your name. The whole set up has been rigged to deprive YOU of MONEY for their pockets, as these crooks produce nothing but misery for hard working Americans. But then, the United States of America is a CORPORATION and the Constitution was done AWAY with in 1871. UNTIL you know/understand that, you ARE just one of their 'free range sheep' waiting to be sheered OR slaughtered, at THEIR whim ! Eagle so 300 yrs back english and americans implemented something called democracy where the real responsibility doesnt lie with anyone. in old days,we might have dethroned king.we might have joined army,migrated to other kingdoms.there was no paperwork. next came english and europeans who believed in written word than truth and now they fucked up world with their insane laws. i wonder how longer it can work |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17935812 United States 06/17/2012 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 49 USC § 395.1(j)(1) and (2) below. "Moreover, no license or registration is required to exercise the Right of Way—the Liberty of the Common Way—the Right of Free Passage—by any conveyance whatsoever for personal, private recreation or travel purposes." Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105 "No State shall convert a liberty into a privilege license it, and attach a fee to it" Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham 373 U.S 262 "If the State converts a Liberty into a priviledge, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity" Rights of Travel: Case Law Rulings [link to forum.worldfreemansociety.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17935812 United States 06/17/2012 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 49 USC § 395.1(j)(1) and (2) below. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17935812 "Moreover, no license or registration is required to exercise the Right of Way—the Liberty of the Common Way—the Right of Free Passage—by any conveyance whatsoever for personal, private recreation or travel purposes." Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105 "No State shall convert a liberty into a privilege license it, and attach a fee to it" Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham 373 U.S 262 "If the State converts a Liberty into a privilege, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity" Rights of Travel: Case Law Rulings [link to forum.worldfreemansociety.org] even with these rulings the language is still suspect to me. The words like "Liberty", "Privilege" and "Citizen" Its whole lot of legalease.... you almost have to look up every word in the cases in Black's Law Dictionary to understand it all. Things are not always as read, in black and white. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2328452 United States 06/17/2012 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ive been driving for 4 years now with expired plates and no insurance. My truck is nice and its paid off. I make well over 150k a year. When it came time to renew it i just said F it and never looked back. As long as you drive smart its no problem. |
moot User ID: 1076292 United States 06/17/2012 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My buddy and his girl got married by a J.O.P. At the end of the cerimony they were talking about phones and blablabla. Friend asked the judge "How did it become that you guys can draw blood on the roadside for D.W.I. evidence?" Judge said to dude,"When you sign for your licence to drive,You agree to the terms stated" I was floored by this and figure if I dont have a licence ,the laws dont apply. Unfortunatly I live in the state with more jails than anywhere else in the world and I have a lifestyle that supports my freedom on all accounts. But when It comes time to renew my licence... |
Scuba7 (OP) User ID: 16995097 Australia 06/17/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically do not get a licence, and you are free to travel and not be impeded? I thought as much. Do not take memories of what happened yesterday, into what might happen today. When love is your greatest weakness, you will be the strongest person in the world. |
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