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Spain Bailout & Greek Vote BS. Euro Stocks Sliding & Spain 10-Yr Yield Blasts Past Dangerous 7% Level! EURO Collapsing!!

 
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Euro saved! World survives! Now sell your stocks before everyone realizes none of that is true

All reversing: European stocks erase gains: Stoxx600 little changed, euro erases rise vs dollar, trades little changed at $1.2643

[link to www.bloomberg.com]


Greece's election results just kick the can further down the road

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Latest: Spanish government debt rises back to 'danger' levels of 7% despite early market rally

[link to twitter.com]

Spain yield now 7.1280 - a rise of over 25bp on the close from Friday ,... mkt realised no sign of ECB and so just heading in one direction

EURUSD collapsing on the Spain Bond move... 7.08%

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Spanish deposits drop 5.39% from same month a year ago.

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Yup saw this one coming. I was goin to buy tomorrow hoping for a rally, but it has faded now.
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Talk that Spain will need another €300 Billion and only got enough cash for one month.
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Georg Grodzki, being interviewed on Bloomberg, says it's too expensive to keep Greece in Euro.

Just printing money to hold it together can't work in the long run because they're not actually fixing any of the problems!

Protests in Spain and Portugal over the weekend.

My kids finish school this Friday and then we're out of here and moving back to England. I'd rather watch this implosion from afar and the UK might not be in great shape but it's not anywhere near as bad as here!
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Spain's €100B bailout will leave Europe's financial rescue fund without enough $$ to bail out another big economy.

[link to money.cnn.com]
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U.S. stock-index futures dropped, erasing earlier gains, as an election in Greece failed to ease concern that the euro-area debt crisis will worsen.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]
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Greek Election Fails To Cheer Euro-Zone Bond Markets

-- Win for pro-bailout parties fails to soothe tensions

-- Post-election rally short-lived; euro rally evaporates

-- Spanish 10-year yields soar to euro-era high of more than 7%

-- Spain's yields at unsustainable levels ahead of auction later in the week

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Georg Grodzki, being interviewed on Bloomberg, says it's too expensive to keep Greece in Euro.

Just printing money to hold it together can't work in the long run because they're not actually fixing any of the problems!

Protests in Spain and Portugal over the weekend.

My kids finish school this Friday and then we're out of here and moving back to England. I'd rather watch this implosion from afar and the UK might not be in great shape but it's not anywhere near as bad as here!
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FYI, believe it or not, the UK's balance sheet is actually worse than most Euro countries.

It might take a while, but this financial virus is destined to cross the Channel.
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Good. Maybe the countries will wise up, dump the euro, send back all their problematic vampire immigrants, then arrest and imprison every sick liberal bastard that tried to destroy their beautiful ancient heritage with the WMD multiculturalism.
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Georg Grodzki, being interviewed on Bloomberg, says it's too expensive to keep Greece in Euro.

Just printing money to hold it together can't work in the long run because they're not actually fixing any of the problems!

Protests in Spain and Portugal over the weekend.

My kids finish school this Friday and then we're out of here and moving back to England. I'd rather watch this implosion from afar and the UK might not be in great shape but it's not anywhere near as bad as here!
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Oh ya, old story of rats and sinking ships...
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Georg Grodzki, being interviewed on Bloomberg, says it's too expensive to keep Greece in Euro.

Just printing money to hold it together can't work in the long run because they're not actually fixing any of the problems!

Protests in Spain and Portugal over the weekend.

My kids finish school this Friday and then we're out of here and moving back to England. I'd rather watch this implosion from afar and the UK might not be in great shape but it's not anywhere near as bad as here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984819

Oh ya, old story of rats and sinking ships...
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Call it what you like but my kids come first and what do you think my eldest son will do when he finishes school at the end of this week? Under 25s have 52% unemployment and to top it off he's a foreigner so what chance do you think he has if we stay here?
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Well! That didn't seem to last long.

Kicking the can down the road doesn't seem to get very far these days. The can is becoming Bigger and Heavier..
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Good. Maybe the countries will wise up, dump the euro, send back all their problematic vampire immigrants, then arrest and imprison every sick liberal bastard that tried to destroy their beautiful ancient heritage with the WMD multiculturalism.
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It's reactionary fools like you who help these events in constantly resurfacing. Treating the symptoms of a predatory system whilst ignoring the causes is a sure fire guarantee that these things will not go away until you are reduced to being a "vampire" refugee yourself.
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Great work DoorBert - again!
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Georg Grodzki, being interviewed on Bloomberg, says it's too expensive to keep Greece in Euro.

Just printing money to hold it together can't work in the long run because they're not actually fixing any of the problems!

Protests in Spain and Portugal over the weekend.

My kids finish school this Friday and then we're out of here and moving back to England. I'd rather watch this implosion from afar and the UK might not be in great shape but it's not anywhere near as bad as here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984819

Oh ya, old story of rats and sinking ships...
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Call it what you like but my kids come first and what do you think my eldest son will do when he finishes school at the end of this week? Under 25s have 52% unemployment and to top it off he's a foreigner so what chance do you think he has if we stay here?
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He could always poor a cold Fosters and throw another shrimp on the barbie.
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Georg Grodzki, being interviewed on Bloomberg, says it's too expensive to keep Greece in Euro.

Just printing money to hold it together can't work in the long run because they're not actually fixing any of the problems!

Protests in Spain and Portugal over the weekend.

My kids finish school this Friday and then we're out of here and moving back to England. I'd rather watch this implosion from afar and the UK might not be in great shape but it's not anywhere near as bad as here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984819


FYI, believe it or not, the UK's balance sheet is actually worse than most Euro countries.

It might take a while, but this financial virus is destined to cross the Channel.
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We'll take our chances amongst family and friends - we're now starting to see Spanish resentment towards the foreigners that initially brought their money here. Now Spain isn't prospering they want foreigners to leave.

We're just an average family that live in an average townhouse - no pool or luxury villa for us. We're self employed and pay tax and social security. My kids go to Spanish schools and they've lived here more than half their lives so it's not been an easy decision to leave. When we see locals leaving and moving to Germany and we're seeing resentment building towards us foreigners then it's time to go.

Only 6% unemployment in the UK compared to 25% here (52% for under 25s).
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Georg Grodzki, being interviewed on Bloomberg, says it's too expensive to keep Greece in Euro.

Just printing money to hold it together can't work in the long run because they're not actually fixing any of the problems!

Protests in Spain and Portugal over the weekend.

My kids finish school this Friday and then we're out of here and moving back to England. I'd rather watch this implosion from afar and the UK might not be in great shape but it's not anywhere near as bad as here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984819


FYI, believe it or not, the UK's balance sheet is actually worse than most Euro countries.

It might take a while, but this financial virus is destined to cross the Channel.
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We'll take our chances amongst family and friends - we're now starting to see Spanish resentment towards the foreigners that initially brought their money here. Now Spain isn't prospering they want foreigners to leave.

We're just an average family that live in an average townhouse - no pool or luxury villa for us. We're self employed and pay tax and social security. My kids go to Spanish schools and they've lived here more than half their lives so it's not been an easy decision to leave. When we see locals leaving and moving to Germany and we're seeing resentment building towards us foreigners then it's time to go.

Only 6% unemployment in the UK compared to 25% here (52% for under 25s).
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It will eventually dawn on the masses of each country after successive bailouts just where the problem lies...for the time being, expect simplistic answers to be the norm.
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Georg Grodzki, being interviewed on Bloomberg, says it's too expensive to keep Greece in Euro.

Just printing money to hold it together can't work in the long run because they're not actually fixing any of the problems!

Protests in Spain and Portugal over the weekend.

My kids finish school this Friday and then we're out of here and moving back to England. I'd rather watch this implosion from afar and the UK might not be in great shape but it's not anywhere near as bad as here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984819

Oh ya, old story of rats and sinking ships...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17839644


Call it what you like but my kids come first and what do you think my eldest son will do when he finishes school at the end of this week? Under 25s have 52% unemployment and to top it off he's a foreigner so what chance do you think he has if we stay here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984819


He could always poor a cold Fosters and throw another shrimp on the barbie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18117063


That could be funny but we live inland from the Costa del Sol tourist area so things here aren't as bad as other areas of Spain. However, bars and restaurants are closing because there aren't enough tourists. No chance of even getting a job pouring Fosters and cooking shrimp on barbies.

By the way, most of his Spanish friends are planning to join the military because there's nothing else for them to do and their parents are struggling financially.
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Any hopes Italy and Spain may have had that the Greek election result would ease pressure on their own debt crises were dashed early on Monday when financial markets reacted as if nothing had changed.

[link to www.4-traders.com]
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Any hopes Italy and Spain may have had that the Greek election result would ease pressure on their own debt crises were dashed early on Monday when financial markets reacted as if nothing had changed.

[link to www.4-traders.com]
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El Confidential reporting Spanish residential mortgages may mean Spain need €150 billion, for their banks, and not the €100 billion initially reported. Apparently none of the initial figures included residential mortgage figures because they can't be defaulted on... in normal circumstances. Even if bankruptcy is declared here, you're on the hook for like and they'll chase you forever even if it means waiting until you die to take anything you may have.

However, these are not normal circumstances and homes are being repossessed at a rapid rate with the banks having no way to recover the outstanding mortgage and no way of auctioning properties to cover them either. At the moment those residential properties are sitting in the bank's asset columns.

There are whole developments of 1000s of apartments that sit half built and they also sit in bank asset columns because people paid deposits 'off plan' and are therefore liable for the whole value they agreed to buy for. Many developments had bank guarantees but it's recently become apparent that most of those bank guarantees were offered by offshore banks and they can't be forced to guarantee the mortgages.

Spanish residential mortgages are a huge hole here and it's unbelievable that they have been included in figures... but not surprising really.
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Any hopes Italy and Spain may have had that the Greek election result would ease pressure on their own debt crises were dashed early on Monday when financial markets reacted as if nothing had changed.

[link to www.4-traders.com]
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El Confidential reporting Spanish residential mortgages may mean Spain need €150 billion, for their banks, and not the €100 billion initially reported. Apparently none of the initial figures included residential mortgage figures because they can't be defaulted on... in normal circumstances. Even if bankruptcy is declared here, you're on the hook for like and they'll chase you forever even if it means waiting until you die to take anything you may have.

However, these are not normal circumstances and homes are being repossessed at a rapid rate with the banks having no way to recover the outstanding mortgage and no way of auctioning properties to cover them either. At the moment those residential properties are sitting in the bank's asset columns.

There are whole developments of 1000s of apartments that sit half built and they also sit in bank asset columns because people paid deposits 'off plan' and are therefore liable for the whole value they agreed to buy for. Many developments had bank guarantees but it's recently become apparent that most of those bank guarantees were offered by offshore banks and they can't be forced to guarantee the mortgages.

Spanish residential mortgages are a huge hole here and it's unbelievable that they have been included in figures... but not surprising really.
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The mortgages will have been securitised as well. Add that to the financial systems loss side.
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Any hopes Italy and Spain may have had that the Greek election result would ease pressure on their own debt crises were dashed early on Monday when financial markets reacted as if nothing had changed.

[link to www.4-traders.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


El Confidential reporting Spanish residential mortgages may mean Spain need €150 billion, for their banks, and not the €100 billion initially reported. Apparently none of the initial figures included residential mortgage figures because they can't be defaulted on... in normal circumstances. Even if bankruptcy is declared here, you're on the hook for life and they'll chase you forever even if it means waiting until you die to take anything you may have.

However, these are not normal circumstances and homes are being repossessed at a rapid rate with the banks having no way to recover the outstanding mortgage and no way of auctioning properties to cover them either. At the moment those residential properties are sitting in the bank's asset columns.

There are whole developments of 1000s of apartments that sit half built and they also sit in bank asset columns because people paid deposits 'off plan' and are therefore liable for the whole value they agreed to buy for. Many developments had bank guarantees but it's recently become apparent that most of those bank guarantees were offered by offshore banks and they can't be forced to guarantee the developments get completed.

Spanish residential mortgages are a huge hole and it's unbelievable that they haven't been included in figures... but not surprising really.
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Sorry changed a few errors which are shown in bold.
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Forget The Election Results – Greece Is Still Doomed And So Is The Rest Of Europe

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The global addiction of central banking stimulus

The Euro crisis reaches a critical stage

With record high unemployment in Spain and downgrades hitting, the Spanish 10-year bond crossed a troubling threshold this week hitting 7 percent.

The contagion is spreading across Europe. The politics are complicated but desire for more and more bailouts are running short.

[link to www.blacklistednews.com]
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they are really dragging it out,since 2007 the credit cruch doom seems to be around the corner but never comes
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Good. Maybe the countries will wise up, dump the euro, send back all their problematic vampire immigrants, then arrest and imprison every sick liberal bastard that tried to destroy their beautiful ancient heritage with the WMD multiculturalism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18117063


It's reactionary fools like you who help these events in constantly resurfacing. Treating the symptoms of a predatory system whilst ignoring the causes is a sure fire guarantee that these things will not go away until you are reduced to being a "vampire" refugee yourself.
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Eat shit and die, Marxist!

Hopefully, one day you'll end up in a gulag - cosmic justice!
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Gold To Pop $1,000+ During Global Banking Emergency

Waiting for the rally in gold to begin? Don’t. Global policymakers plan to institute the vital element of surprise to trap unsuspecting investors into bearing viscous currency devaluations.

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Nothing is crashing. That's all relative. Even if it crashes, it's just a bunch of numbers. People can still harvest shit. Harvesting rules anyway.
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Good. Maybe the countries will wise up, dump the euro, send back all their problematic vampire immigrants, then arrest and imprison every sick liberal bastard that tried to destroy their beautiful ancient heritage with the WMD multiculturalism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18117063


It's reactionary fools like you who help these events in constantly resurfacing. Treating the symptoms of a predatory system whilst ignoring the causes is a sure fire guarantee that these things will not go away until you are reduced to being a "vampire" refugee yourself.
 Quoting: Marxist


Eat shit and die, Marxist!

Hopefully, one day you'll end up in a gulag - cosmic justice!
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Irrespective of the above, you will still have to deal with the consequences of not attending to the causes of this crisis, but simplistically attacking its symptoms. If not, you will die experiencing the deepest of austerities which will reduce you along with most of the world's labour force, to pauperdom.
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The global addiction of central banking stimulus

The Euro crisis reaches a critical stage

With record high unemployment in Spain and downgrades hitting, the Spanish 10-year bond crossed a troubling threshold this week hitting 7 percent.

The contagion is spreading across Europe. The politics are complicated but desire for more and more bailouts are running short.

[link to www.blacklistednews.com]
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Bailouts are the only remedy that is available...other than crashing the world housing market to near zero value.
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