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More dangerous than 1933?

Seriously?
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Yes, compare our living standards today to that of 1933, the changes will be completely shocking to the pampered peoples of today.
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Many more people who can't grow and gather food in their urban environments, for starters.
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Jesus Christ
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he's not gonna save ur ass
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"In Argentina middle class families with money in the bank were reduced to going through garbage bins to find food to eat"

ehh? what??
whatever
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Jesus Christ
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he's not gonna save ur ass
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“an automatic check deposit might not be such a good idea in times of bank runs and banking holidays.”
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I don't even have a choice. We don't even get paper stubs anymore. Everything is online.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8604058


true, and try to have all the cash in the house
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cash in the house doesn't help, if the US dollars are worthless in a crash.

store-able foods, seeds for sprouting

lots of water, for bathing, drinking, watering plants

heirloom (non-gmo) seeds

guns & ammo (of different types, especially what the gov't carries 9mil, .40, .45, .50, .308, 7.62×51mm NATO, 5.56×45mm NATO)

bow and arrows would be also nice on the side, recyclable

Solar powered back-up generator

Atmospheric Water generator

I could go on...
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Thank you for bringing this to topic. It's something so many people have overlooked: Community. Cooperation. Creativity. Inginuity. Skill sets and Knowledge. From the youngest toddler to the oldest of the old, everyone has something valuable to contribute to the community.

Perhaps "modern & civilised" peoples have "forgotten" this in their quest for "advancement & achievement". Amnesia has set in and spread...worldwide.

Many years ago, Robert Putman wrote a fantastic essay: "Bowling Alone". It was recommended reading in a discussion group I belonged to. It certainly sparked a lively, heartwarming, and informative debate.

Hope this thread brings in some brainstorming on how to revive intrinsic human values of "tend & friend", too. That would definitely bolster flagging spirits in uncertain times.
 Quoting: sTTsTTT


i was raised off grid, have a lot of medicinal and edible wild plant knowledge, nutrition, self-care, excellent gardener, extremely practical and have no problem chopping wood and carrying water. as a child, i did all the families' wash by hand, among tending the animals, churning butter, and much more. my son (who, btw, is high IQ and his favorite subject is history, currently reading 'history of rome :P) and i have VERY high standards and morals, honesty, caring, sharing, communication.

it has been incredibly difficult to get through this current paradigm, because so few people even bother with self-awareness and personal betterment. because we are poor, we end up in lousy living situations. we have had to move a lot, out of unsafe scenarios, and so have not established a real community in one area...though we do have friends in many places.

i have always taught my son to care for the earth and others, but also to be wary of both. he knows more about earthquakes and volcanoes than most GLP'ers, and more than me, for sure, because he has gone to the best schools i can find for him, tolerating major hardships so he can get a good education. i have intentionally lived in areas where he can get the experience he may need, both country and city.

it is scary as hell to think that after all that, we'd end up being stuck somewhere like where we are now, west oakland, california. if there are any GOOD communities out there of like minded people we could meet and maybe work with, we'd love to know about them.
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Don't worry, God takes care of its best "servants". You WILL be in the right place at the right time, you just need to trust your intuition and ALWAYS act upon it. Nothing happens by chance, we always learn and we will know how to appreciate what we learned only later... then we will thank God He brought us through what He did.

All the best!
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fuck your money - after it has fucked us all
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fuck your money - after it has fucked us all
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Your pussy hurting today? Take responsibility for your own bullshit.
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You humans are something I spit out my cup of tea when I read this...
Born of the Cosmos...

"Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves."

Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam...
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fuck your money - after it has fucked us all
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Your pussy hurting today? Take responsibility for your own bullshit.
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You humans are something I spit out my cup of tea when I read this...
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so...you are not human?
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More dangerous than 1933?

Seriously?
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Absolutely more dangerous than 1933. In 1933 a large percentage of Americans still grew their oiwn food and had/used what are now considered survivalist skills. People were by and large much much more prepared.


Before the Great Depression took their jobs my own parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. were mill hands, foundry workers, machinists, etc., but they also had large gardens, milk cows, fruit trees, etc. They were also skilled at harvesting rabbits, squirels, racoons, wild onions, wild lettuce, black berries, huckle berries and other natural foods. Instead of rioting and trying to steal for a living they worked their asses off and got by.
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More dangerous than 1933?

Seriously?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11963746


Absolutely more dangerous than 1933. In 1933 a large percentage of Americans still grew their oiwn food and had/used what are now considered survivalist skills. People were by and large much much more prepared.


Before the Great Depression took their jobs my own parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. were mill hands, foundry workers, machinists, etc., but they also had large gardens, milk cows, fruit trees, etc. They were also skilled at harvesting rabbits, squirels, racoons, wild onions, wild lettuce, black berries, huckle berries and other natural foods. Instead of rioting and trying to steal for a living they worked their asses off and got by.
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Worse than 1933?............we will wish it was that good. Hell is what it will be and your precisely correct, great post!
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“an automatic check deposit might not be such a good idea in times of bank runs and banking holidays.”
 Quoting: Dr/\gomir


I don't even have a choice. We don't even get paper stubs anymore. Everything is online.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8604058




Doc, were you aware that a few months ago a law went into effect that basically says that if you are on Social Security (and probably other government programs, I'm not involved with any others) you MUST have a Bank Account and you MUST receive your benefits by direct deposit? The "up" side is that it saves the government the costs of printing, paper, and postage. The "down" side is...well, we can figure THAT out too. There is always that period of time before "THE" day when I hold my breath and pray that the country holds together long enough for some overpaid government worker to take time out of their coffee break in order to push the "send" button so that I can pay my bills and eat for another month. hf bump
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Wow, some fantastic thoughts on surTHRIVEal through hard times from some folks. Excellent!

A little something to keep under your hat... Learn how to sew on buttons, snaps and other small fastenings. Learn how to mend & darn small holes and patch tears in clothing. These small skills will become valuable. Little stitches lead to big rewards ;-)

Originally embroidery samplers were a way to learn, practice, teach, and remember different stitching methods. Samplers were "pretty" because scrap threads were used and one might have different colours & textures lieing about to be "used up".

These small life-skills can be learned and practiced NOW. Anyone can spend a few minutes for needlework, especially while reading threads (haha) or watching television, visiting with friends, or just relaxing. It is rather therapeutic keeping the fingers busy.

The next skill I'm going to learn is "drop spindle" yarn making. Has always fascinated me so...Why not? If the yarn is chunky beginners thread it can knit into a bouclle scarf & hat set. Very fashion forward, I've heard.

Forget Mad Max & the Thunderdome. Think Renaissance Festival and the SCA. There are more SCAdians in the wild than imaginable. Here, there and everywhere...We Are.
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yep!!!! i love to hand sew, also have a machine, but learned how to sew on my mom's antique treadle singer. she made us clothes and quilts on it. loved it!!! definitely a good skill to have. and thank you kindly for the karma point, favor returned. :)
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fuck your money - after it has fucked us all
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in the first days after collapse cash is king...gas for the last trip,food,goods and so on
 Quoting: Dr/\gomir


In the first days of the collapse, cash is a death trap.

If you run to the same places EVERYONE else does, there will be mass casualties.

Remember this.......Once supplies are extinguished.......so are you

Shit sucks but thats the truth. Unless you're deep into urban land, your straight up fucked.

And we can only blame ourselves for paying into a system. We let it happen.

Last Edited by --Voltaic-- on 06/18/2012 05:12 PM
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Wow, some fantastic thoughts on surTHRIVEal through hard times from some folks. Excellent!

A little something to keep under your hat... Learn how to sew on buttons, snaps and other small fastenings. Learn how to mend & darn small holes and patch tears in clothing. These small skills will become valuable. Little stitches lead to big rewards ;-)

Originally embroidery samplers were a way to learn, practice, teach, and remember different stitching methods. Samplers were "pretty" because scrap threads were used and one might have different colours & textures lieing about to be "used up".

These small life-skills can be learned and practiced NOW. Anyone can spend a few minutes for needlework, especially while reading threads (haha) or watching television, visiting with friends, or just relaxing. It is rather therapeutic keeping the fingers busy.

The next skill I'm going to learn is "drop spindle" yarn making. Has always fascinated me so...Why not? If the yarn is chunky beginners thread it can knit into a bouclle scarf & hat set. Very fashion forward, I've heard.

Forget Mad Max & the Thunderdome. Think Renaissance Festival and the SCA. There are more SCAdians in the wild than imaginable. Here, there and everywhere...We Are.
 Quoting: sTTsTTT


yep!!!! i love to hand sew, also have a machine, but learned how to sew on my mom's antique treadle singer. she made us clothes and quilts on it. loved it!!! definitely a good skill to have. and thank you kindly for the karma point, favor returned. :)
 Quoting: Anne O'Mally


There are some really kind people here....you are one of those. Thank you.

hf
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fuck your money - after it has fucked us all
 Quoting: far&away


in the first days after collapse cash is king...gas for the last trip,food,goods and so on
 Quoting: Dr/\gomir


In the first days of the collapse, cash is a death trap.

If you run to the same places EVERYONE else does, there will be mass casualties.

Remember this.......Once supplies are extinguished.......so are you

Shit sucks but thats the truth. Unless you're deep into urban land, your straight up fucked.

And we can only blame ourselves for paying into a system. We let it happen.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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End Ze It Now.

Resistance.

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is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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“an automatic check deposit might not be such a good idea in times of bank runs and banking holidays.”
 Quoting: Dr/\gomir


I don't even have a choice. We don't even get paper stubs anymore. Everything is online.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8604058




Doc, were you aware that a few months ago a law went into effect that basically says that if you are on Social Security (and probably other government programs, I'm not involved with any others) you MUST have a Bank Account and you MUST receive your benefits by direct deposit? The "up" side is that it saves the government the costs of printing, paper, and postage. The "down" side is...well, we can figure THAT out too. There is always that period of time before "THE" day when I hold my breath and pray that the country holds together long enough for some overpaid government worker to take time out of their coffee break in order to push the "send" button so that I can pay my bills and eat for another month. hf bump
 Quoting: Eggcellent


for those of us struggling with these issues, i suggest buying seeds, having your basics covered for survival, and though we have a rough time with such a low income, it's better to have the goods NOW than to wait to try to buy them after the fact. i'd rather be totally broke and know i have a full tank of gas and a collection of seeds, as well as a couple of good bicycles, than hold onto the money for a rainy day.

in the meantime, good health, eating well, stocking up on natural remedies and practising non-attachment to your material goods is crucial. we often pare down to having only what we can carry, sometimes out of necessity, often because i get panicked if i have a bunch of stuff i don't need. i prefer to invest in organic foods than a flat screen tv. :)

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more garbage copied from the www.

July 4, 2008 a bottle of beer in Zimbabwe cost 100 billion dollars at 5:00 PM but at 6:30 the price had soared to 150 billion dollars.

Sounds a little far fetched.
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Thank you for bringing this to topic. It's something so many people have overlooked: Community. Cooperation. Creativity. Inginuity. Skill sets and Knowledge. From the youngest toddler to the oldest of the old, everyone has something valuable to contribute to the community.

Perhaps "modern & civilised" peoples have "forgotten" this in their quest for "advancement & achievement". Amnesia has set in and spread...worldwide.

Many years ago, Robert Putman wrote a fantastic essay: "Bowling Alone". It was recommended reading in a discussion group I belonged to. It certainly sparked a lively, heartwarming, and informative debate.

Hope this thread brings in some brainstorming on how to revive intrinsic human values of "tend & friend", too. That would definitely bolster flagging spirits in uncertain times.
 Quoting: sTTsTTT


i was raised off grid, have a lot of medicinal and edible wild plant knowledge, nutrition, self-care, excellent gardener, extremely practical and have no problem chopping wood and carrying water. as a child, i did all the families' wash by hand, among tending the animals, churning butter, and much more. my son (who, btw, is high IQ and his favorite subject is history, currently reading 'history of rome :P) and i have VERY high standards and morals, honesty, caring, sharing, communication.

it has been incredibly difficult to get through this current paradigm, because so few people even bother with self-awareness and personal betterment. because we are poor, we end up in lousy living situations. we have had to move a lot, out of unsafe scenarios, and so have not established a real community in one area...though we do have friends in many places.

i have always taught my son to care for the earth and others, but also to be wary of both. he knows more about earthquakes and volcanoes than most GLP'ers, and more than me, for sure, because he has gone to the best schools i can find for him, tolerating major hardships so he can get a good education. i have intentionally lived in areas where he can get the experience he may need, both country and city.

it is scary as hell to think that after all that, we'd end up being stuck somewhere like where we are now, west oakland, california. if there are any GOOD communities out there of like minded people we could meet and maybe work with, we'd love to know about them.
 Quoting: Anne O'Mally



This is the future now,
Thank you for bringing this to topic. It's something so many people have overlooked: Community. Cooperation. Creativity. Inginuity. Skill sets and Knowledge. From the youngest toddler to the oldest of the old, everyone has something valuable to contribute to the community.
lets see how we can bring it into being.banana2
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One of the biggest losses to befall modern society is the lack of a community spirit - I am old enough and lucky enough to remember what a sense of community and cooperation really mean and how important it is - my father had an allotment were he grew enough vegatables to feed several families , my mother was a dress maker and would make clothes and alter soft furnishings for all the neighbours , one guy in the street worked on a fishing boat another on a poultry farm - everybody supported each other and looked out for one another - now I dont even know my neighbours names - they are too busy working long hours to take the time to be neighbourly - its a sad state of affairs we are in .

Can we get that sense of togetherness back ? Or has modern life and consumerism destroyed it for good ?

Thanks for bringing this up OP - if we can all remember how to cooperate with each other we will get through this - your so right my friend .
 Quoting: Masamune1969 18145251


Well said indeed. I totally agree.
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This is the future now,
Thank you for bringing this to topic. It's something so many people have overlooked: Community. Cooperation. Creativity. Inginuity. Skill sets and Knowledge. From the youngest toddler to the oldest of the old, everyone has something valuable to contribute to the community.
lets see how we can bring it into being.banana2
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YEAH!!!

we've checked out intentional communities all over the place, over the years, and have found that even where people are working together for a greater good, it's the communication and interpersonal issues (and this applies to 'political' activist groups as well) that create dysfunction. one or two persons' 'issues' can destroy or dramatically cripple progress.

there is one place i visited called 'emerald earth,' in booneville, ca, where we visited years ago and the energy there was amazing. during the pre-dinner circle, where everyone held hands and said a prayer together, i closed my eyes and looked at the group energy and what made it so harmonious.

what i saw was an earth globe over the center of the circle, and i got that the cohesiveness was due to having A COMMON VISION. each person in the group was committed to a higher cause, and whatever personal issues might come up, that cause and intention was stronger than petty ego-based conflicts.

check out emerald earth:

[link to www.emeraldearth.org]

sadly, we didn't have the buy-in to be a part of this.

Last Edited by Anne O'Mally on 06/18/2012 05:33 PM
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One of the biggest losses to befall modern society is the lack of a community spirit - I am old enough and lucky enough to remember what a sense of community and cooperation really mean and how important it is - my father had an allotment were he grew enough vegatables to feed several families , my mother was a dress maker and would make clothes and alter soft furnishings for all the neighbours , one guy in the street worked on a fishing boat another on a poultry farm - everybody supported each other and looked out for one another - now I dont even know my neighbours names - they are too busy working long hours to take the time to be neighbourly - its a sad state of affairs we are in .

Can we get that sense of togetherness back ? Or has modern life and consumerism destroyed it for good ?

Thanks for bringing this up OP - if we can all remember how to cooperate with each other we will get through this - your so right my friend .
 Quoting: Masamune1969 18145251


Well said indeed. I totally agree.
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thanks hf
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Great post OP! I enjoyed the reflection and thoughts it generated.

I work in construction engineering by trade to make them dollars that will soon be worthless, but my hobbies are fishing, woodcarving and gardening.

A long time ago, I started thinking about a "what if it all fell apart" scenario. I started collecting and learning to use the good ole reliable hand tools. Bit and brace drill, gouges and mallet, hand saws, carving knives...etc. Don't need power for those.

I generally carve "utilitarian" things, bowls, platters, spoons, forks (treenware) etc...things you actually use. I also hand carve fishing lures...so I might not be 'the most" valuable guy when "The SHTF", but I will have a few things to contribute.

I also grew up on a farm and know how to grow vegetables and preserve them and how to raise cattle, chickens and goats.

I'm not afraid of a shitstorm...My family and I will be ok...I'm more worried about the predators that never bothered to learn a skill or how to take care of themselves and will be counting on brute force to get what they want.

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I started collecting and learning to use the good ole reliable hand tools. Bit and brace drill, gouges and mallet, hand saws, carving knives...etc. Don't need power for those.

I generally carve "utilitarian" things, bowls, platters, spoons, forks (treenware) etc...things you actually use. I also handcarve fishing lures...so I might not be 'the most" valuable guy when "The SHTF", but I will have a few things to contribute.

I'm more worried about the predators that never bothered to learn a skill or how to take care of themselves and will be counting on brute force to get what they want.
 Quoting: Damrod


there's a great deal of pleasure in doing things the old fashioned way. :) i admit, the only tool i have is a really good old hammer that i have had for about 25 years. but i would never ever part with it. :)
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I started collecting and learning to use the good ole reliable hand tools. Bit and brace drill, gouges and mallet, hand saws, carving knives...etc. Don't need power for those.

I generally carve "utilitarian" things, bowls, platters, spoons, forks (treenware) etc...things you actually use. I also handcarve fishing lures...so I might not be 'the most" valuable guy when "The SHTF", but I will have a few things to contribute.

I'm more worried about the predators that never bothered to learn a skill or how to take care of themselves and will be counting on brute force to get what they want.
 Quoting: Damrod


there's a great deal of pleasure in doing things the old fashioned way. :) i admit, the only tool i have is a really good old hammer that i have had for about 25 years. but i would never ever part with it. :)
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One of the biggest losses to befall modern society is the lack of a community spirit - I am old enough and lucky enough to remember what a sense of community and cooperation really mean and how important it is - my father had an allotment were he grew enough vegatables to feed several families , my mother was a dress maker and would make clothes and alter soft furnishings for all the neighbours , one guy in the street worked on a fishing boat another on a poultry farm - everybody supported each other and looked out for one another - now I dont even know my neighbours names - they are too busy working long hours to take the time to be neighbourly - its a sad state of affairs we are in .

Can we get that sense of togetherness back ? Or has modern life and consumerism destroyed it for good ?

Thanks for bringing this up OP - if we can all remember how to cooperate with each other we will get through this - your so right my friend .
 Quoting: Masamune1969 18145251


maybe i could shed some light on your question you sound like your from a far different generation from me. i am 21 everything while i have grown up is made to set us apart from each to drive us further apart from each other make us all DIFFERENT and INDIVIDUAL. from what i gather from the history books and we all know most are utter shite in your day we were all brought together with suh things as empire day where we would all celebrate the fact that we had broken other civilisations so much we could call them our own. TPTB had a need for us to be united back then we made a better work force. now there are to many of us and not enough work why would they want us to be united with so much free time on our hands we might be able to make a change that way and they cant have that.
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Re: Your Last Chance To Prepare For What Could Be The Most Dangerous Year in Human History
I'm not afraid of a shitstorm...My family and I will be ok...I'm more worried about the predators that never bothered to learn a skill or how to take care of themselves and will be counting on brute force to get what they want.
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thats what the good old 12 gauge is for

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