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The one about the woman having her garden cut down by local town code enforcer.....Does not make any sense. If she was following all town codes. Why would they do this.
I'm wondering if this story is not being exaggerated to scare people.
Their are millions of people who grow their own food, they have no problems.......Was she growing illegal plants????
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Many times the biggest dictatorship we have to deal with is our own local government. Some people just want to control everything they can and they influence their local government to do it. We need freedom oriented people to serve on city councils and zoning boards.
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Could be true but I find it hard to believe.....

I think just more fear bullshit...unless they're growing the wrong flowers!

Peace
 Quoting: Cosmic Traveler


This is why this is allowed to happen! People who are to willing to believe everything the government tells them and then they right away jump to the conclusion that the citizen had to be the one doing something wrong!

Yep your probably right it had to be the poor lady who was committing the awful crime of having a garden. Maybe they should drag her into the streets and stone her for "growing the wrong flowers"!
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They certainly were the wrong flowers, probably because they were edible! Self sufficiency is now a crime. Bet those officers will never remove real overgrown weeds!
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lol! most "overgrown" weeds are edible! Why do you think they've trained us to kill them all????
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Could be true but I find it hard to believe.....

I think just more fear bullshit...unless they're growing the wrong flowers!

Peace
 Quoting: Cosmic Traveler


Sounds like b.s, but nope its real, my neighbor out here in phoenix had police come by and literally trash her garden, told her gardens are prohibited.
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Could be true but I find it hard to believe.....

I think just more fear bullshit...unless they're growing the wrong flowers!

Peace
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Sounds like b.s, but nope its real, my neighbor out here in phoenix had police come by and literally trash her garden, told her gardens are prohibited.
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I hope she's suing their ass's off.
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Most cities won't allow you to build any self-reliant dwellings. You must have a water supply, you must have utilities connected. If you don't, they won't allow you to build anything. Even if you built your own nuclear reactor and water well. It's pretty ridiculous. Lately they've even been frowning upon septic tanks, so you have to pay the thousands to millions of dollars to connect to a sewer line. Pretty much if these bureaucrats aren't removed, America is dead.
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It mostly has to do with money. If you produce your own electricity, then the power company doesn't make anything. If you have your own septic system in the city, then the sewer plant loses out.

There was a valley West Virginia that produced their own FREE electricity via a turbine by a river (30+ years ago). The local utility company was not happy as they were losing out on revenue so the gov came in and blew up the turbine forcing the valley to connect to the grid.
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Most cities won't allow you to build any self-reliant dwellings. You must have a water supply, you must have utilities connected. If you don't, they won't allow you to build anything. Even if you built your own nuclear reactor and water well. It's pretty ridiculous. Lately they've even been frowning upon septic tanks, so you have to pay the thousands to millions of dollars to connect to a sewer line. Pretty much if these bureaucrats aren't removed, America is dead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 846701


It mostly has to do with money. If you produce your own electricity, then the power company doesn't make anything. If you have your own septic system in the city, then the sewer plant loses out.

There was a valley West Virginia that produced their own FREE electricity via a turbine by a river (30+ years ago). The local utility company was not happy as they were losing out on revenue so the gov came in and blew up the turbine forcing the valley to connect to the grid.
 Quoting: Pa resident1


What is it that makes people roll over like SHEEP and take it? It would not only have been replaced but a huge law suit with enormous winnings would have been won. And if the judge was an ass, then you keep it up, but put the people who block the justice on the lists of those you will see publically destroyed and get PI collectively hired and get some real dirt on them, and you also phone their homes, and let their familes, mothers, wives, children know, their neighbors, their communities know what ASS's they are.

So, this would in the end have a happy ending, plus set a precedence for all future generations.

If not, then the reason why the bad things keep getting worse is because people are not doing the right thing when they happen.
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What a sad state of affairs.
Well at least you still have your guns. For how much longer I wonder. Thats got to be on the cards next. Would`nt want all them in the land of the free dumbs to hurt them selves.
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Hey everyone look the Obama Administration is here on GLP.... Welcome!
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Goverments has proven to be a failure and i don't want to live under any goverment rulling. We should be living on free land , tax and money free , grow and work for our own food and etc. I hope this day will come soon ....
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The one about the woman having her garden cut down by local town code enforcer.....Does not make any sense. If she was following all town codes. Why would they do this.
I'm wondering if this story is not being exaggerated to scare people.
Their are millions of people who grow their own food, they have no problems.......Was she growing illegal plants????
 Quoting: Blue Skies


in corrupted areas this happens all the time, it's the Corruption that is growing

so while people may grow their own food, this crap Will be moving into their area soon, and Yes, they Can and Do do this shit all the time,

especially to women, to the elderly, to poor struggling families because like the corrupt stealing filth they are, this is HOW they get into power and KEEP THEIR POWER,

is by stomping on the powerless.

You see this garbage where I live all the time, Sure in the well to do neighborhoods [the areas where the jerks who Work for Code Enforcements and their crooked pimp-ho ass cronies] they leave people alone--

they instead target areas where it's Working Class. OR in some areas where they are ruled by tyrannical Covenants, etc.

And then, of course when you can't feed yourself or your family, then those same FILTH declare you 'gravely disabled' and force you into drugged GULAGS where then these city-town Mafia filth assign a GAL to you aka pimp-ho mafia judges,

and then THEY [the GALS] rape your bank accounts, rob from your entire family, etc.,

and people n Denial go on about their business until it happens to them, and then it's

What! What! But, But, But you Can't do this, why I"m special, I"m white, I work, I pay my taxes,

blah blah blah

but you see it's too late...

because you know all those Victims, must have DONE SOMETHING TO

DESERVE THIS RIGHT?

Right.....[sarcasm]
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If a "code enforcer" cut down my garden, he'd better have the fucking national guard standing by!!!
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Government. Govern = control. Ment (like mental) means mind. To control the mind. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it don't.
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pfft, waste of time. Country is too big, we are too strong, they are too high, weak, and retarded.

FAIL
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I would like to see them over here taking my shit come on fed dhs epa cia. I have a big garden enough to feed my whole family and friends yes thats right im sharing

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Government Crack Down on Preppers, Survivalists & Self-Relaint People....

Women has Survival Garden Destroyed by Gov. Code Enforcment Teams.... Couple has Land Seized by EPA.... DHS Green Police taking control of private land for "environmental purposes".... Gov. shutting down small organic farms.... offgriders forced back onto the grid....

[link to offgridsurvival.com]
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Meanwhile, Russia is doing the exact opposite - giving acreage to any family that applies for it so they can have a country cottage and be self sufficient.
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Welcome to the USSA
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Nobody gonna dig up my garden.
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these fuckers want to control our food supply....for very obvious reasons.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

We do have the right and the power to make change.

The U.S. Population in 2012 is Nearly 313 Million People. Of the 313 million people there are 535 Members of Congress, {435 in the House of Representatives and 100 in the Senate}. These so called law makers are little more than spoiled self-serving tyrants.


If only 8% of the population (25,040,000) people would stand up and say we want fiscal responsibility. No more living off tomorrow’s earnings, demand that we must live within our own earnings just as was done back in 1776 where only 7 or 8 percent of the people demanded change, and we got it. Freedom from tyranny .


313,000,000 population in U.S.A.
-25,040,000 (( 8% working for change of twisted policy
287,960,000 the number who can sit home drink their 40’s, and watch Jersey Shores

8% of 313 000 000 = 25,040,000 (( heck the state of Texas has 25,674,681 in population. This is doable folks.. WE NEED responsible Public Servants, not self- serving tyrants.

Remember there are 535 voting Members of Congress; the House of Representatives has 435 and the Senate has100. CHANGE THEM ALL !!!!!! PUT THE TRASH OUT NOW !!!!!
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This is exactly what I have been saying. Just vote them out!!! No Dem's & no Repubs should get a single vote!!!!
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Are you aware of the voting fraud? If the powers that be want a certain politician they will have it (him/her)! If the people truly want a change, and not the one you have now, it is going to take more than voting to get it.
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Could be true but I find it hard to believe.....

I think just more fear bullshit...unless they're growing the wrong flowers!

Peace
 Quoting: Cosmic Traveler


This is why this is allowed to happen! People who are to willing to believe everything the government tells them and then they right away jump to the conclusion that the citizen had to be the one doing something wrong!

Yep your probably right it had to be the poor lady who was committing the awful crime of having a garden. Maybe they should drag her into the streets and stone her for "growing the wrong flowers"!
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no kidding!

you are right. people seem to inherently, even at this late date when it's more than clear who the evil doers are in truth, still are "programmed" to assume hence believe that it's the injured party, in this case the landowner, that has done something WRONG.

those who jump to such conclusions are as much a part of the problem as are those who enforce such illegal acts on behalf of the so called "government."

it's just sad, but God has a reckoning coming and these folks will in one way or another get a taste of what they've either allowed or helped perpetrate forthcoming, and will in no small way be hurt by such accordingly.

this is as it should be, hence it shall.

period
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Most cities won't allow you to build any self-reliant dwellings. You must have a water supply, you must have utilities connected. If you don't, they won't allow you to build anything. Even if you built your own nuclear reactor and water well. It's pretty ridiculous. Lately they've even been frowning upon septic tanks, so you have to pay the thousands to millions of dollars to connect to a sewer line. Pretty much if these bureaucrats aren't removed, America is dead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 846701


It mostly has to do with money. If you produce your own electricity, then the power company doesn't make anything. If you have your own septic system in the city, then the sewer plant loses out.

There was a valley West Virginia that produced their own FREE electricity via a turbine by a river (30+ years ago). The local utility company was not happy as they were losing out on revenue so the gov came in and blew up the turbine forcing the valley to connect to the grid.
 Quoting: Pa resident1


What is it that makes people roll over like SHEEP and take it? It would not only have been replaced but a huge law suit with enormous winnings would have been won. And if the judge was an ass, then you keep it up, but put the people who block the justice on the lists of those you will see publically destroyed and get PI collectively hired and get some real dirt on them, and you also phone their homes, and let their familes, mothers, wives, children know, their neighbors, their communities know what ASS's they are.

So, this would in the end have a happy ending, plus set a precedence for all future generations.

If not, then the reason why the bad things keep getting worse is because people are not doing the right thing when they happen.
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Your own community. There's a small group of people in your community that benefits from this and they push this nonsense upon you with no common sense whatsoever. This is why they push for cityhood so much even though it doesn't benefit the people living in the area other than a select few. I mean honestly, how many of you even bothered going into a city council meeting? Probably none of you, and this is why so much bullshit like this happens because no one objects (since no one is there to object) when they pass new laws for the community.
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Most cities won't allow you to build any self-reliant dwellings. You must have a water supply, you must have utilities connected. If you don't, they won't allow you to build anything. Even if you built your own nuclear reactor and water well. It's pretty ridiculous. Lately they've even been frowning upon septic tanks, so you have to pay the thousands to millions of dollars to connect to a sewer line. Pretty much if these bureaucrats aren't removed, America is dead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 846701


It mostly has to do with money. If you produce your own electricity, then the power company doesn't make anything. If you have your own septic system in the city, then the sewer plant loses out.

There was a valley West Virginia that produced their own FREE electricity via a turbine by a river (30+ years ago). The local utility company was not happy as they were losing out on revenue so the gov came in and blew up the turbine forcing the valley to connect to the grid.
 Quoting: Pa resident1


What is it that makes people roll over like SHEEP and take it? It would not only have been replaced but a huge law suit with enormous winnings would have been won. And if the judge was an ass, then you keep it up, but put the people who block the justice on the lists of those you will see publically destroyed and get PI collectively hired and get some real dirt on them, and you also phone their homes, and let their familes, mothers, wives, children know, their neighbors, their communities know what ASS's they are.

So, this would in the end have a happy ending, plus set a precedence for all future generations.

If not, then the reason why the bad things keep getting worse is because people are not doing the right thing when they happen.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Your own community. There's a small group of people in your community that benefits from this and they push this nonsense upon you with no common sense whatsoever. This is why they push for cityhood so much even though it doesn't benefit the people living in the area other than a select few. I mean honestly, how many of you even bothered going into a city council meeting? Probably none of you, and this is why so much bullshit like this happens because no one objects (since no one is there to object) when they pass new laws for the community.
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^^This is so true.^^
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Just today in our local Herald newspaper, I was shocked to see that San Antonio, Texas has lightened the backyard gardeners rules. I had to read it 3 times!

It said that people can now have up to 5 chickens/livestock in their backyards. Up to 3 can be chickens and 2 others can be cow, goat or other livestock. No more than 5 without a special application.
However they can have up to 10 rabbits.
Gardens can now be in the backyard or even in the front yards so long as the height of the plants do not block moving traffic views and cause motorists to not be able to see around corners and such.

This really freaked me out!
I live in a small town just north of San Antonio and I am hoping our town will adopt the guidelines as well, we often do adopt their rules as it makes things run smoother.

I have chickens now (am grandfathered in) but I have 15 or so and by current laws they have to have 4 sq. feet per bird and they must be 75 feet away from any building lived in by humans.

I would gladly let some of my chickens go if I could get 2 goats for milk and cheese.

In these days of Big brother clamping down it is nice to read that down here giving the people some freedom is a nice move.

I looked all over the internet for a copy of the story to link to but can't find the paper online! It's a small local newspaper.

I'll try to photograph part of the article and see if I can link to that tomorrow.
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Stop telling every about your preps folks. The only people who need to know are you and your close friends and family you want to know. Anybody else will be a liability after TSHTF and the government already thinks it owns you and everything you have.
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With all the "eyes in the sky", drones, etc. it will be difficult to hide something like a garden or solar panels. I don't know how often they fly over to update their photos, but I'd bet that it'll be a lot more frequently now that they have all of our homes GPS'ed.

Like a herd of wild horses, we "smell something on the wind", and it won't take much to spook us into flight or fight mode. And they know it!

I think the BIG trick will be figuring out a way to "hide in plain sight". I KNOW that there are lots of "brainiacs" here at GLP, now's your chance to help your fellow man (and woman) and win our undying gratitude! We need to come up with a way to "landscape" our yards/property and fix our homes so that the gov't, police, neighbors, and roaming bands of city-thugs just give us a cursory glance and keep on going, nothing to see here. Ready, set, GO!!! bump
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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fuck you sheeple.

i'm with the feds.

adolph obama drone target this domestic terrorist.
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Stop telling every about your preps folks. The only people who need to know are you and your close friends and family you want to know. Anybody else will be a liability after TSHTF and the government already thinks it owns you and everything you have.
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this
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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A late-night trip to town hall with a set of heavy duty hedge loppers would probably be in order.
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Excellent IDEA! Chop down every fucking hedge and tree they have growing around their tax-money financed fucked up building.
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Or just spray it all with Round-Up!

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