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CIA, NSA may have infiltrated Microsoft to write malware

 
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Come on guys, think.

Microsoft - now run by j's (ballmer)
Facebook - zuckerberg
twiiter - can't remember his name
Google - brin and page
Linked in - hoffman
Oracle - Ellison
Yahoo - as of last week, yep
Amazon-bezos
Face.com (facial recognition, bought by FB today) - Hirsch

Need I go on?

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war".
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Steganography has been around for about a decade now. Here's some addotional on what you mentioned:

[link to m.computing.net]

I'm informed and thereon believe that encoding internet viruses has become so pervasive in the recent 3-years with unpublicized instances of legitimate mass exchanges with Hewlett-Packard and Compaq computers was infiltrated by malicious code written into advertising vendors that HP brought onboard in their Microsoft operating software that disabled 'laptop battery functions' and 'LCD backlights' that cost worldwide consumer repair costs to skyrocket. Guess whom stood to profit by selling more laptop batteries and laptops because of bad parts that curiously went bad just after OEM warrantees expired?

And now you know more of the rest of the story from a different angle where public consumers have to spend more of their hard earned income to make corporate get even bigger.

And nobody is going to do a damn thing about that in our best interests either. You all, by now, should know 'why' because the Enterprise must be "sustained."

"Just another real good 'business decision." - George Carlin

I rest my case.

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Microsoft IS the Alphabet Agencies. Start using a UNIX/LINUX based OS. ;)
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And apple isn't? What kind of fantasy world do you live in?
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Microsoft IS the Alphabet Agencies. Start using a UNIX/LINUX based OS. ;)
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And apple isn't? What kind of fantasy world do you live in?
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For those of you GLpers that don't know what code is, it can be written by anyone, and something that is open source is even MORE prone to corruption by companies that can leverage it in their own proprietary way. When was the last time you've seen mac osx code released in its entirety? Or even partially? You guys are smarter than this.... I HOPE.
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the recent windows xp updates have slowed and made my system crash more frequently
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Microsoft IS the Alphabet Agencies. Start using a UNIX/LINUX based OS. ;)
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And apple isn't? What kind of fantasy world do you live in?
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For those of you GLpers that don't know what code is, it can be written by anyone, and something that is open source is even MORE prone to corruption by companies that can leverage it in their own proprietary way. When was the last time you've seen mac osx code released in its entirety? Or even partially? You guys are smarter than this.... I HOPE.
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Yea not to mention sites and ISPs can't be trusted either so there's no security unless you just go offline
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definitely considering linux now, the unfami.arity with it though. Akes. E parznoid of what's running in backrounf and not sure about their command structure

have 2 windows and 1 touchpad for co puters
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In the case of "Google" you probably don't know that the U.S. National Security Agency ( NSA ) made a public-private partnership with a billionaire named Thomas J. Perkins who put Google on the map in the first place, however the 'real secret scandal' about Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers ( KPCB ) is that Tom Perkins traded high-technology secrets out-of In-Q-Tel - the high-tech venture capital arm of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency ( CIA ) - to a group of People's Republic of China ( PRC ) spies operating out-of a trading desk in Hong Kong ( HK ) run by an Israeli dual national named Arie Blumenfeld who ran POLARIS out-of Syosset, New York.

The outcome came to a head in November 2007 when the CIA turned Blumenfeld who enlisted the services of three ( 3 ) men ( Thomas Sawyer of Utah, Craig Leonard Hubner of Australia, and another man in the UK ) the latter of whom was to meet Perkins for lunch to discuss disposing-of Perkins $250-million 'carbon fiber high-tech sailing yacht' named, the "Maltese Falcon."

I was an unsuspecting pawn who was personally thanked by Perkins for tipping him off whereby he cancelled his meeting where he was about to become an embarrassment.

Little did I realize 'then', that the CIA sent the fellow from the UK in on Perkins - all under the ruse of the "Knights of Malta" ( O.S.J. ).

Sheesh!

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And, yes, I will probably be killed for releasing this information but they better hurry on over because I die in October of this year anyway.

Quite frankly, I don't give a damn. Consider the post a 'dying declaration' because when word of this reaches certain parties involved there'll be need of more ice water in hell for even more new residents down below.

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In the case of "Google" you probably don't know that the U.S. National Security Agency ( NSA ) made a public-private partnership with a billionaire named Thomas J. Perkins who put Google on the map in the first place, however the 'real secret scandal' about Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers ( KPCB ) is that Tom Perkins traded high-technology secrets out-of In-Q-Tel - the high-tech venture capital arm of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency ( CIA ) - to a group of People's Republic of China ( PRC ) spies operating out-of a trading desk in Hong Kong ( HK ) run by an Israeli dual national named Arie Blumenfeld who ran POLARIS out-of Syosset, New York.

The outcome came to a head in November 2007 when the CIA turned Blumenfeld who enlisted the services of three ( 3 ) men ( Thomas Sawyer of Utah, Craig Leonard Hubner of Australia, and another man in the UK ) the latter of whom was to meet Perkins for lunch to discuss disposing-of Perkins $250-million 'carbon fiber high-tech sailing yacht' named, the "Maltese Falcon."

I was an unsuspecting pawn who was personally thanked by Perkins for tipping him off whereby he cancelled his meeting where he was about to become an embarrassment.

Little did I realize 'then', that the CIA sent the fellow from the UK in on Perkins - all under the ruse of the "Knights of Malta" ( O.S.J. ).

Sheesh!

- RE

That ain't fake. ^^
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"After studying the code for Duqu, security researchers at Kaspersky Labs said the malware was most similar to the kind of work done by old-school programmers able to write code for more than one platform at a time, do good quality control to make sure the modules were able to install themselves and update in real time, and that the command-and-control components ahd been re-used from previous editions. "

Multi-platform, quality control, real-time updates? The hallmarks of quality developers... I think someone would have noticed them at Microsoft and been highly suspicious :). I only half jest.

MS no doubt place backdoors, but these aren't them. They are specificly targeted deployments of code to chosen machines. They are not viruses or require security flaws, don't believe everything the anti-virus say, they have a solutiom to sell you remember.
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A leading security researcher has suggested Microsoft's core Windows and application development programming teams have been infiltrated by covert programmer/operatives from U.S. intelligence agencies.

If it were true it would be another exciting twist to the stories of international espionage, sabotage and murder that surround Stuxnet, Duqu and Flame, the most successful cyberwar weapons deployed so far, with the possible exception of Windows itself.

Nevertheless, according to Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer of antivirus and security software vendor F-Secure, the scenario that would make it simplest for programmers employed by U.S. intelligence agencies to create the Stuxnet, Duqu and Flame viruses and compromise Microsoft protocols to the extent they could disguise downloads to Flame as patches through Windows Update is that Microsoft has been infiltrated by members of the U.S. intelligence community.


Having programmers, spies and spy-supervisors from the NSA, CIA or other secret government agencies infiltrate Microsoft in order to turn its technology to their own evil uses (rather than Microsoft's) is the kind of premise that would get any writer thrown out of a movie producer's office for pitching an idea that would put the audience to sleep halfway through the first act.


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lol

love your avatar!
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And, yes, I will probably be killed for releasing this information but they better hurry on over because I die in October of this year anyway.

Quite frankly, I don't give a damn. Consider the post a 'dying declaration' because when word of this reaches certain parties involved there'll be need of more ice water in hell for even more new residents down below.

- RE
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LOLOLOL

and yer not alone in this!!!!
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Microsoft IS the Alphabet Agencies. Start using a UNIX/LINUX based OS. ;)
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And apple isn't? What kind of fantasy world do you live in?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8000135


For those of you GLpers that don't know what code is, it can be written by anyone, and something that is open source is even MORE prone to corruption by companies that can leverage it in their own proprietary way. When was the last time you've seen mac osx code released in its entirety? Or even partially? You guys are smarter than this.... I HOPE.
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Yea not to mention sites and ISPs can't be trusted either so there's no security unless you just go offline
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when I go offline in the virtual world I'll be coming online in reality

like a big dog
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This is NOT news.

Go back to Windows NT in the late 1990's.. a programmer found a piece of code which had in its comment section refering to 'NSA' and 'Cryptographic Key'.

With that 'Key' then the NSA and of course Microsoft, would have full access to any Windows NT computer.

Ever wonder one of the great benefits of moving off the Win 9x codebase to that of Win NT? For those who do not know, Windows NT was the base for Win2000, which then merged with the Win9x codebase to form WinXP. Then Vista was an outgrowth of WinXP... and now Win7. So all incorporate the NSA and any other keys Microsoft allows.

This has gone on for 15 years and just now this is news? Boy the younger generation sure doesn't know history do they. Thank you Libtard thinking.
 Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435

clappa

Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL
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06/19/2012 03:24 AM
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So how do i keep all my dirty nasty porn safe?

Oh the humanity of it all!!!
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All other factors remaining equal, the more complex the OS the easier it is to corrupt.
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This is NOT news.

Go back to Windows NT in the late 1990's.. a programmer found a piece of code which had in its comment section refering to 'NSA' and 'Cryptographic Key'.

With that 'Key' then the NSA and of course Microsoft, would have full access to any Windows NT computer.

Ever wonder one of the great benefits of moving off the Win 9x codebase to that of Win NT? For those who do not know, Windows NT was the base for Win2000, which then merged with the Win9x codebase to form WinXP. Then Vista was an outgrowth of WinXP... and now Win7. So all incorporate the NSA and any other keys Microsoft allows.

This has gone on for 15 years and just now this is news? Boy the younger generation sure doesn't know history do they. Thank you Libtard thinking.
 Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435

clappa

Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL
 Quoting: CowgirlK



Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:)

Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself.
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So how do i keep all my dirty nasty porn safe?
Oh the humanity of it all!!!
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Nobody gives a fuck about your porn unless you influence people. The higher your klout score or better your job the more 'they' take interest. Giving haters BS? well ok - but calling out the real criminals of 911/mosaud/CIA/NSA/NRO/DOD/... oh I'd better...
stfu
- unless the TRUTH is worth more than my life.

Living under a bridge? "They" can turn off your voice while using every device with a microphone to 'hear you' and hastle you anythime it profits them. But of course that's not enough for TPTB... the Euro crash followed by the dollar and BRICs crashes will open the 666 doors. Then 'they' just activate the poision in the chip - or the assassin trackers to do it.

hidingiamwithtomatopump2
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This is NOT news.

Go back to Windows NT in the late 1990's.. a programmer found a piece of code which had in its comment section refering to 'NSA' and 'Cryptographic Key'.

With that 'Key' then the NSA and of course Microsoft, would have full access to any Windows NT computer.

Ever wonder one of the great benefits of moving off the Win 9x codebase to that of Win NT? For those who do not know, Windows NT was the base for Win2000, which then merged with the Win9x codebase to form WinXP. Then Vista was an outgrowth of WinXP... and now Win7. So all incorporate the NSA and any other keys Microsoft allows.

This has gone on for 15 years and just now this is news? Boy the younger generation sure doesn't know history do they. Thank you Libtard thinking.
 Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435

clappa

Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL
 Quoting: CowgirlK



Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:)

Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself.
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iamwith

This wasn't an issue till RAM and HDD storage became cheap. It used to be called "bloatware".

Now there's no real incentive to write simple and bullet-proof code anymore. Why bother? Just slap together a new arrangement of older objects in a new way while ignoring the underlying code that makes up those objects.

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This is NOT news.

Go back to Windows NT in the late 1990's.. a programmer found a piece of code which had in its comment section refering to 'NSA' and 'Cryptographic Key'.

With that 'Key' then the NSA and of course Microsoft, would have full access to any Windows NT computer.

Ever wonder one of the great benefits of moving off the Win 9x codebase to that of Win NT? For those who do not know, Windows NT was the base for Win2000, which then merged with the Win9x codebase to form WinXP. Then Vista was an outgrowth of WinXP... and now Win7. So all incorporate the NSA and any other keys Microsoft allows.

This has gone on for 15 years and just now this is news? Boy the younger generation sure doesn't know history do they. Thank you Libtard thinking.
 Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435

clappa

Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL
 Quoting: CowgirlK



Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:)

Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself.
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Yeah, because coding an OS that can run on ANY hardware combo avaliable today or hardware that has not even been built yet will be bug free right.

Install Linux if your paranoid about MS, Im sure open source OS's have no bugs and cant have its code changed by TPTB.
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This is NOT news.

Go back to Windows NT in the late 1990's.. a programmer found a piece of code which had in its comment section refering to 'NSA' and 'Cryptographic Key'.

With that 'Key' then the NSA and of course Microsoft, would have full access to any Windows NT computer.

Ever wonder one of the great benefits of moving off the Win 9x codebase to that of Win NT? For those who do not know, Windows NT was the base for Win2000, which then merged with the Win9x codebase to form WinXP. Then Vista was an outgrowth of WinXP... and now Win7. So all incorporate the NSA and any other keys Microsoft allows.

This has gone on for 15 years and just now this is news? Boy the younger generation sure doesn't know history do they. Thank you Libtard thinking.
 Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435

clappa

Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL
 Quoting: CowgirlK



Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:)

Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself.
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Don't laugh....I tweaked win ME until it was the best OS ever!

Lived with XP for many years and eventually made it do every thing I wanted.

Then they forced win7 on us ..which I HATE with a passion.

I wish we go back to the DOS days..before point and click...you know...when you had to have half a brain to operate a computer!!!

hf
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clappa

Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL
 Quoting: CowgirlK



Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:)

Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2889215


Don't laugh....I tweaked win ME until it was the best OS ever!

Lived with XP for many years and eventually made it do every thing I wanted.

Then they forced win7 on us ..which I HATE with a passion.

I wish we go back to the DOS days..before point and click...you know...when you had to have half a brain to operate a computer!!!

hf
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Why dont you? just install DOS 6.3 done,
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Yep...all this knowledge goes to waste.....why?
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clappa

Thank you for the trip down memory lane. No pun intended, of course. :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Remember....gopher, pine, kermit, telnet, ftp, who, and dialing into mud rooms? I miss the good old days! I still have a couple of the old "internet yellow pages" books. LOL
 Quoting: CowgirlK



Win XP is still the best in my opinion, too bad Windows 3.1 is gone:)

Updates are pretty useless as well - my laptop with Vista is always telling me to update 'security related features' and such - makes me wonder why the biggest Operating System on earth is so popular when they need to update their shitty product every other day - no computer games ever need patching or updating as much as Windows itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2889215


Don't laugh....I tweaked win ME until it was the best OS ever!

Lived with XP for many years and eventually made it do every thing I wanted.

Then they forced win7 on us ..which I HATE with a passion.

I wish we go back to the DOS days..before point and click...you know...when you had to have half a brain to operate a computer!!!

hf
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Above quote > lpt1

I wouldn't go back that far back :chuckle; but at some point the PTB realized programming and ADD would meet in the middle certainly?

My point is that as people work on the building blocks of old, these blocks have holes in them by their nature but the modern coders aren't trained to and can't see them.
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This is highly unlikely considering how many people in the world actually work with and see Microsoft's source code.
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This is highly unlikely considering how many people in the world actually work with and see Microsoft's source code.
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I don't think that's true, they can probably see only a part of it - the one they need to develop the software. Plus, it's a huge code anyway so even if you have full access, is it even possible to find something suspicious if you don't already know where to search for it?
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This is highly unlikely considering how many people in the world actually work with and see Microsoft's source code.
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I don't think that's true, they can probably see only a part of it - the one they need to develop the software. Plus, it's a huge code anyway so even if you have full access, is it even possible to find something suspicious if you don't already know where to search for it?
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I'm sure MS use peer code reviews like every other programming company, also it has to get past the testing teams too. And why would they bother when there is no need, If you have an IP address regardless of what OS you have you have an entry point.

Hacking is NOT platform dependant.
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This is highly unlikely considering how many people in the world actually work with and see Microsoft's source code.
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You've apparently never had to submit your blood to access the MSDN.

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