Questions about immortality...

It's all about your point of consciousness in time. You can go back and forth for a particular purpose and then wind up back where you started. The flesh has limits and memories are limited to prevent hysteria. There are other factors of existence that need to be dealt with hence the reason for a certain few to have the ability so they can compile observations for the inevitable conclusion.

"forever" can only apply to spiritual. That being which exist in its true immortal state is not defined in matter. Its the law of conservation. Matter changes state, so does consciousness.

To have higher DNA that lives longer is 1 thing. But matter will always decay. Changes can be made to the decay rate but it will always decay.

Even if you have a body that lives 50 million years, it will stil wither before your soul. No 2 ways about. The true definition of immortality can only be spiritual.

So no id say there is no "immortal" flesh. Flesh that lives so much longer beyond our perception that we would consider it immortal? Sure. But naw id say there is no state of material life that isnt subject to some rate of material decay.

Or a being of such a level it can merely materialize and dematerialize a body as needed.

The body is always changing, and can always be damaged or repaired. But to ensure lasting longevity, it is necessary to learn to focus the mind to such an extent as to manifest any desired form you wish to take. See the nature of a chladni plate, where vibrations cause certain forms to be created. Thoughts are far more complex than these simple waveforms, and through intense focus one can aggregate and disseminate molecules and atoms to maintain a stable form.

You will notice that optimistic, healthy people with high self-esteem tend to look better than those with negative sense of self-worth. The thoughts directly affect the form one takes, and this form can change with time and thought.

it makes sense!!! lol

okay the energy is intense on this thread...I am loving all of the posts...but have to get off now feel like I just got hit with some amazing energy. Please keep posting if ya want I can't wait to read them tomorrow.

There is also the possibility that you have died but the forces that be turned back the point of death in able for you to continue to exist within this space and time.

The only way to become immortal is to be cursed with it, a curse i wouldn't wish on anyone.

Also, eternal life and immortality are 2 different things, eternal life means you can still be killed, immortality means you could be at the epicenter of a nuclear blast and all it would do is piss you off.

Simply put, don't seek immortality, you'll come to regret it, as the few truly cursed with it will attest.

Good woman. I knew you wouldnt let the team down. As I say it maybe not what is needed but It maybe that you are needed. To the Kingdom of Heaven Angels

i dont want to live forever.......that means i'll never graduate lol
for me immortality is not to die forgotten......meaning to help someone find their way or helping a friend in need

Some on here believe in jesus and the god of this world. I think that is sick thinking.

Mortal bodies die. Immortal do not.

Indeed, especially here in this prison.



Nicely said Fatstogie.

I have different classes of immortality.

they are basic descriptions of different types of immortality

like a True Immortal can live forever no matter what even if the physical body is incinerated the body rematerializes because that type of immortal is a universal creature meaning everything that makes up the universe is what that creature borrows its life from, its never ending and only possible with technology.


Then there are Regular Immortals, i dont know if any have ever actually existed but the odds may proof at least one has or is someday, doesnt mean its a religious thing or signifigant to the world just means it was possibly a freak accident. Like change in the dna structures of the cells within the creature affected with this immortality, the structure could allow it to live forever with or without the need for food or water or w/e it needs liquid wise if it needs liquid or solid food/water W/E!!! Being born like this is slim but possible, never been reported if anyone like this has lived though hmm i wonder why lol. Science could easily create this type of person in the coming years if not now.

then there are prolonged mortals, like adam and eve and shit. they still eat and drink to live but they outlive any normal humans. dont know if they ever existed, dna and science are definate factors to these types being real.

Besides immortality isnt good for any creature that has a brain because eventually you will go insane and possibly die of sensory overload because your brain cannot handle that much data being stored within it. Unless you had some sort of device you could take information from your brain and store it within said device. thus solving your problem of insanity and whenever you need to know something you could scan the device and check to see if you had already known that. but then you would have to delete the file/memory from the device and brain and reupload it that way memory within the device and brain wasnt wasted and didnt over flow with the same files that were already inside the device. umm hard to explain it all but i guess immortality is kind of a parodox type of subject allthough completly possible as we have seen with the jelly fish but the jellyfish doesnt have a brain.

Once Egos are rid of these gross material object time-space bodies — then materialistic unbelief would have fewer chances than it has.
Who of them knows, or can tell, what may happen when once life-ing cycle of living globe is run down and earth falls into last dream-sleep?
Who is bold enough to say that the divine Egos of our mankind — at least the elect out of the multitudes passing on to other spheres — will not become in their turn the “divine” instructors of a new mankind generated by them on a new globe, called to life-ing and activity by the disembodied “principles” of Earth?

(strange records lie embedded in the “Mystery language-Schools” of the prehistoric ages, the language now called Symbolism.)

You need fresh braiiins and also to avoid fire and people shooting at you.
You might not look pretty or feel smart, but you will keep on living!

(that was a zombie joke btw)

immortals, should thank all living brains for this chance

brain dies, chance is lost
if the mission was not finished, it must continue using another "suiting" brain structure (not random selection at all, it must suit the souls progress, many set preferences it must meet - somethinglike databse of trials over long period of time)

the immortal factor in us, is the soul
it dictates the days, interactions with life and tranforms feelings from this into SET experiences, serving as further joints or checkpoints in your language, we all have many in our lives, i counted some 5 - 7 vital points in my life, where the vector of my own curiosity was seen, felt and realized

if the connection with the soul (higher self.. the voice of your highest ideal) is established on a new, much more open channel (get rid of learned beahviour and start to read in yours), it will serve you best
do you understand ? ...how you connect with IT, renders your further possibilities (even promises the complet communion with your soul, living as 1, escaping the cause-effect environment in this sense)

bodies are only adaptation to the inner drive!

Yes, but one avenue of seeing or researching the signs and the other of feeling them in your DNA by knowing your ancestors and who you are are 2 different experiences. One being completely intellectual, and the latter being a physical, intellectual and spiritual journey because it changes your being as you connect with your ancestors. Bottom line, if they aren't your ancestors, it is ALL and ONLY academic which can be seen in just every single historian and or Egyptologist.

What, you or THEY want me to wear skinny jeans, grow my hair and act like a love child of humanity to make youtube videos claiming everyone is love and everyone can be ascended masters by uniting with their polar opposite divine feminine to become the ultimate peace and love guru to the flocks of new agers?

This is why we reincarnate within our own DNA that is engineered to handle this journey. Yes, large heads with massive brains are traits of our DNA that I can prove via science.

i understand immortality to describe staying in the same body for ever
that would mean having a body that adjusted to every environment in our universe.
example:
earth environment within our magnetosphere is different environment to saturn environment within it`s magnetosphere
and
if you stayed within the same body (material shape) for ever , how would you get to saturn to enjoy living there?

if you understand your local environment enough to keep your body forever, everyone else would do the same because they would copy what you do and you would be forced to tell them how to do it , i am sure

our golden age environment indicates we all lived between 700 and 1000 earth years as calculated today so we do have a memory of near immortality

remain eternal is a different function and demands rebirth (not same as reincarnation)

this natural ability removes the difficulty taking a material substance (body) to impossible to reach locations at material speed (light speed) within our universe and satisfies our universes motive that nothing remembers what does not exist hence to become consciously eternal you must know reality so you remember (memory) true

a further advantage of knowing eternal is it allows utilization of faster than light travel in a vehicle designed to mimic our environments abilities
as in:

near instant action/distance whilst remaining conscious (coherent) in a vehicle designed to do it is the same process of "dieing" consciously whilst retaining coherence/memory applies



Last Edited by aether on 06/19/2012 08:58 AM

the reason we lived so long in our golden age was partly because we were unaware of the universe we lived within
it was unknown to us
so
there was no desire to leave our location because to us our universe was our location, hence we were happy to live a long time within it because a choice to leave it was never in our imagination
so
our golden age memory is a good example of being content in your world free of thought of anything outside of what you know and loving all that you do know

know we are knowing what we were always within we have arisen to know eternal, a topic unavailable to us before this era

reincarnation

till the Kingdom comes..then there will be no Time..and the cycle will end..a forever present "now"

real death is the second death..that of the essence..when that happens ..nothingness

interesting AC! Thanks :)

Really? That can be done? Who decides who gets that chance? These divine beings? You must be special to get such a pass as that!

Immortality only exists when one has broken free for the need of a container. True freedom is not within a material body.
All material bodies come back to the earth, for some it does take longer than other, this is however not immortality.

I understand. I am not seeking info to try to do this. I think it would be quite hard to live that long. I don't think it's natural to live forever. Then again after reading what Redwood wrote throughout the thread it seems like maybe it would be a special gift to be chosen to be one of these immortals... I don't know...this whole topic is very interesting to me...but at the same time it spins my head lol