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Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
Suspicions have been confirmed for those wary of vaccinating their children. A recent large study corroborates other independent study surveys comparing unvaccinated children to vaccinated children.

They all show that vaccinated children have two to five times more childhood diseases, illnesses, and allergies than unvaccinated children.

Originally, the recent still ongoing study compared unvaccinated children against a German national health survey conducted by KiGGS involving over 17,000 children up to age 19. This currently ongoing survey study was initiated by classical homoeopathist Andreas Bachmair.

However, the American connection for Bachmair's study can be found at VaccineInjury.info website that has added a link for parents of vaccinated children to participate in the study. So far this ongoing survey has well over 11,000 respondents, mostly from the U.S.A. Other studies have surveyed smaller groups of families.

Nevertheless, the results were similar. Of course, none of these studies were picked up by the MSM (mainstream media). None were funded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or the World Health Organization (WHO) or any national or international health agency or medical profession group ( [link to healthimpactnews.com]

They don't dare compare the health of unvaccinated children to vaccinated children objectively and risk disrupting their vaxmania (vaccination mania). The focus for all the studies was mostly on childhood illnesses occurring as the children matured.

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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Re: Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
A German study released in September 2011 of about 8000 UNVACCINATED children, newborn to 19 years, show vaccinated children have at least 2 to 5 times more diseases and disorders than unvaccinated children.

The results are presented in the bar chart (See link below); the complete data and study results are here. The data is compared to the national German KIGGS health study of the children in the general population. Most of the respondents to the survey were from the U.S. (Chart here: [link to www.vaccineinjury.info] )

The data was collected from parents with vaccine-free children via an internet questionnaire by vaccineinjury.info and Andreas Bachmair, a German classical homeopathic practitioner.

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[link to healthimpactnews.com]

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Re: Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
all i could find was the 1992 study?
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Fixed chart link, sorry.
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I for one don't expose my daughter to any vaccines.
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My ex doesn't understand. I'm on a losing battle with my kids :(
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My ex doesn't understand. I'm on a losing battle with my kids :(
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Show them pics of autistic/üaralyzed children caused by the vaccines, for example:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

A lo tof info and assistance from: [link to www.facebook.com]
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My ex doesn't understand. I'm on a losing battle with my kids :(
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Show them pics of autistic/üaralyzed children caused by the vaccines, for example:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

A lo tof info and assistance from: [link to www.facebook.com]
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bullshit vaccines are good for you

i had every one you can think of and fit as a fiddle, should join the ufc.
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bullshit vaccines are good for you
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Opposing the vaccines is something for educated perents, moron.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

"..While the picture of an unvaccinated child was once that of the offspring of poor and uneducated parents, “exempters” are often well educated and financially stable, and hold a host of like-minded child-rearing beliefs...."
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bullshit vaccines are good for you
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Opposing the vaccines is something for educated perents, moron.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

"..While the picture of an unvaccinated child was once that of the offspring of poor and uneducated parents, “exempters” are often well educated and financially stable, and hold a host of like-minded child-rearing beliefs...."
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Re: Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
Hi
How do we know if it is the vaccines that are causing the illness or the illness being reduced due to the fact
the children were looked after better because their parents
were more health conscious and hence likely to not vaccinate their kids?

Could vacinated + health conscious provide better results?

Need a randomised placebo test to prove this.
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Re: Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
Hi
How do we know if it is the vaccines that are causing the illness or the illness being reduced due to the fact
the children were looked after better because their parents
were more health conscious and hence likely to not vaccinate their kids?

Could vacinated + health conscious provide better results?

Need a randomised placebo test to prove this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1103018


I also never understand how an un-vaccinated child can be a risk to those around them who have been vaccinated. Surly they could be surrounded by ill children and have no fear if vaccinations are to be believed?
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OP, I concur entirely with the non-vaccination strategy. I get lots of info from Natural News and it's a great site for all things promoting better health.
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They derive from homeopathic remedies . Same way meds from plants.Satan has his ways
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Re: Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
Hi
How do we know if it is the vaccines that are causing the illness or the illness being reduced due to the fact
the children were looked after better because their parents
were more health conscious and hence likely to not vaccinate their kids?

Could vacinated + health conscious provide better results?

Need a randomised placebo test to prove this.
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If you truly want an answer to your question just spend the time reading the studies and testing that has been done, by the manufacturers themselves, going back to the 1920's and you will find the answer.

I did that very thing and came to the conclusion that, vaccines do not work, and are incredibly harmful to the any type of body they are injected into regardless of species.
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Yea, I wish I knew 19 years ago what I know today, had I known, my daughter would not have had them. My friend who ia a banker told me this past weekend as the topic came up, thatshe has been notarizing so many of those forms to not vaccinate.
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My ex doesn't understand. I'm on a losing battle with my kids :(
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Yeah I've noticed this about women, my sister is the exact same way. Got all my nephews and nieces vaccinated up the wazoo. One of em has aspergers, other one is showing signs of social problems, and the youngest is having physical developmental problems.
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Unless they catch polio or the mumps, in which case they just get crippled for life or die.
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"..While the picture of an unvaccinated child was once that of the offspring of poor and uneducated parents, “exempters” are often well educated and financially stable, and hold a host of like-minded child-rearing beliefs...."
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I find this to be true as well. I am fairly active locally in supporting non-vaxers with exemptions for school and such, so I know a lot of these folks.

Now it is the poor who are vaxing the most, because it is required to receive government health benefits. Sick.
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Someone must get very sick to be conclusive as an average to this statistic because my children are vaccinated and practically never sick (except once in 3-4 years).
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How do you get off intelligenza? Push non vaccination and bring back defeated diseases, only the poor slaves will survive.

Short term thinking for long term reasoning.
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Unless they catch polio or the mumps, in which case they just get crippled for life or die.
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The odds are way in your favor if you don't vaccinate.
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How do you get off intelligenza? Push non vaccination and bring back defeated diseases, only the poor slaves will survive.

Short term thinking for long term reasoning.
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Diseases weren't defeated due to vaccines. That's all propaganda.
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My sister obtained a rare disease after getting the hep b shot ..
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Re: Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
Hi
How do we know if it is the vaccines that are causing the illness or the illness being reduced due to the fact
the children were looked after better because their parents
were more health conscious and hence likely to not vaccinate their kids?

Could vacinated + health conscious provide better results?

Need a randomised placebo test to prove this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1103018


I also never understand how an un-vaccinated child can be a risk to those around them who have been vaccinated. Surly they could be surrounded by ill children and have no fear if vaccinations are to be believed?
 Quoting: WeAreOne


That's a valid point. I can only speculate, To coin a pun I'll give it a shot.

The vaccines are not ALWAYS 100% effective in preventing the disease so a disease source could potentially cause disease in vaccinated people.

It's a bit like saying bullet proof glass will stop bullets 70% of the time. Some shots will indeed go through the glass as the protection is not 100%. If you reduce the number of shots on the glass then you reduce the chance of a bullet going through.

Maybe this analogy is wrong I don't know. Need a real vaccine expert to answer this.

Another thing to think about is that the vaccine protection becomes less and less over time so a person is essentially unprotected if they dont get their booster shots and are thus prone to disease. So they need booster shots to become "vaccinated" again. If this is the case then the crying about unvaccinated people is a moot point because most people dont get booster shots and are thus unvaccinated and prone to the disease anyways.
There's also talk about heard immunity but wouldn't the unvaccinated be mixing with vaccinated and become vaccinated?
The pro and con arguments are all messy and confusing imo.
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How do you get off intelligenza? Push non vaccination and bring back defeated diseases, only the poor slaves will survive.

Short term thinking for long term reasoning.
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Diseases weren't defeated due to vaccines. That's all propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18217698


^^^^ THIS ^^^^
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Thank you very much whoever green-pinned this hf
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