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Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?

 
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06/19/2012 07:57 AM
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Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
I think Germany has emotional problem at least for the last 100 years.Nitsche was right about many things and germans said he was crazy.

Merkel wants to be the boss of Europe,wants to turn Europe into a federation and Berlin to be the capital of Europa.And they bully Greece.
We can demand all the money lost in WWII because of german invasion.They stole our gold,they caused casualties in human life and infrastructure and they took loans from the Central Bank of Greece and they never returned the money.
And is much more than the money Greece owes to the banksters!
It is about 500 billion-1 trillion.
We want some respect for gods shake and not treating us like an african country.
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06/19/2012 08:02 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
No no no!!!

WWII was about the Holy Juice, you degenerated worthless gentile.
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06/19/2012 01:38 PM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Should Germany get money from the French (Napoleon)? Or should French get money from the Italian( Caesar)? Or should French get money from England? ( Henry VIII)
Do you really think, that a 30 year old german should pay for his grandfather or grandgrandfather?

What about Turkey? You greeks invaded Troya once. You should pay reparations to them first.


Germany already paid 30 billion Euro to the Greek last year. it will be again 40 - 50 billion this year.
But hey, WW2 , Germany should pay for the next 400 years.
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06/19/2012 01:39 PM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Everyone should join a class-action lawsuit against bankers for their criminal conspiracy to control the world and enslave humanity
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06/19/2012 02:25 PM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Should Germany get money from the French (Napoleon)? Or should French get money from the Italian( Caesar)? Or should French get money from England? ( Henry VIII)
Do you really think, that a 30 year old german should pay for his grandfather or grandgrandfather?

What about Turkey? You greeks invaded Troya once. You should pay reparations to them first.


Germany already paid 30 billion Euro to the Greek last year. it will be again 40 - 50 billion this year.
But hey, WW2 , Germany should pay for the next 400 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18193420


You are talking about centuries ago...people from 1940-1945 are still alive in Greece.Its not the same,according to international law.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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06/19/2012 02:38 PM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
You know why Greece owes so much money?

Because we paid for Mercedes,Bmw,Audi,VW,Redbull,Lidl,Mediamarkt,Siemens etc.

Greece owed 30% of GDP till 1981.
And when we entered EU...2012=125% of GDP.

You took our money and now you call us names.Thats not polite.You took much more than 30 or 50 billion from Greece.
The existence of Germany costed Greek between 1-1.5 trillion
(WWII+EU and EURO "union)

People here in Greece want their money back.
Resister
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06/19/2012 02:50 PM

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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

After WWI, European countries demanded that Germany repay them for the damages. The Wiemar Republic printed so much fake money trying to repay European countries for the damage done during WWI that their economy collapsed and they were left destitute. They turned to Hitler's new National Socialist party and the rest is a very ugly history of coarse. Lets not forget that Germany also was reduced to rubble before it was all over. Repeating the same demand that caused the same country to adopt the kind of nationalism that spawned the last world war... over 60 years ago... is practically begging for a third world war with the same nation that kicked your ass the last two times.

Besides, Germany is about the only productive country left in Europe now. You should get a Darwin award just for asking that dumb-ass self destructive question.

How about you just decide to make your own stuff and sell it to other people who will pay for it. You know, be productive, make your own money, and pay your own debts? Why is that so hard a concept for people to wrap their little pee-brained heads around?

Last Edited by Resister on 06/19/2012 02:51 PM
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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06/19/2012 03:28 PM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

After WWI, European countries demanded that Germany repay them for the damages. The Wiemar Republic printed so much fake money trying to repay European countries for the damage done during WWI that their economy collapsed and they were left destitute. They turned to Hitler's new National Socialist party and the rest is a very ugly history of coarse. Lets not forget that Germany also was reduced to rubble before it was all over. Repeating the same demand that caused the same country to adopt the kind of nationalism that spawned the last world war... over 60 years ago... is practically begging for a third world war with the same nation that kicked your ass the last two times.

Besides, Germany is about the only productive country left in Europe now. You should get a Darwin award just for asking that dumb-ass self destructive question.

How about you just decide to make your own stuff and sell it to other people who will pay for it. You know, be productive, make your own money, and pay your own debts? Why is that so hard a concept for people to wrap their little pee-brained heads around?
 Quoting: Resister


I tell you why...the reason for the rise of the nazis(nationalists) was not that they have to repay for WWI.
It is the same reason that caused WWI.Germany wants to be THE BOSS,by all means...call it WWI,WWII,or European Union.It is an anomaly which lies deep inside the german soul,the feeling of superiority.
Now about WW2...we stopped the axis for a whole year so that you could win the war.What did we get in exchange?Just some milk,chocolate,frozen meat from WWI,american ships and tanks from WWI.
What did Germany who massacred Europe took in exchange?The Marshal plan,worth trillion nowdays.

Of course we must produce by our means,you are right about that but world history is not that simplistic.
A country whose existence and actions costed over a trillion to Greece during the last 60 years has no respect over the country who gave them everything for free (sciences,arts etc).
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06/19/2012 03:38 PM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Yes. by all means do it.
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06/19/2012 03:47 PM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Yes. by all means do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


Germans think "We have a great industry...we are the best,we are kings".

Their products are by far the most expensive in the world!
Being part of the Europe Union is an obligation to buy german products,which means pay 2 or 3 times higher price than the average price of the product.
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06/19/2012 03:56 PM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Funny how you don't even mention the Ottomans once. Ask Erdogan to pay for your shit.

Last time I checked, Troy was still in Turkey. How did that happen...
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06/19/2012 04:01 PM

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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Yes. by all means do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


Germans think "We have a great industry...we are the best,we are kings".

Their products are by far the most expensive in the world!
Being part of the Europe Union is an obligation to buy german products,which means pay 2 or 3 times higher price than the average price of the product.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18196891


Then make it yourself. Start a company or buy only from Greek companies. They only way Greece is getting out of the hole it's in is by Greeks producing and consuming their own products and not borrowing from others to do it. The Euro currency was a horrible idea and a huge disaster that immediately resulted in loss of sovereignty for all nations involved. To be able to stand on your own you have to be self sufficient and in control of your own currency.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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06/19/2012 04:31 PM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Funny how you don't even mention the Ottomans once. Ask Erdogan to pay for your shit.

Last time I checked, Troy was still in Turkey. How did that happen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17351735


Are you serious or just ignoring international law?
If all people died...its history man.
If people are still alive it is present!
Is that so difficult to understand?Like it or not,this is the spirit of the law.

And by the way...Troy has nothing to do with Turkey,it was a civil war between Greeks.Turkey and Turks or Ottomans didnt exist at that time.
Trojans were worshipping the same Gods and were talking same language.They were part of the greek world.
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06/19/2012 04:52 PM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
You know why Greece owes so much money?

Because we paid for Mercedes,Bmw,Audi,VW,Redbull,Lidl,Mediamarkt,Siemens etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18196891


You didnt have to buy those things you know. How did you even afford those Mercs car and Siemens tech?

You owe so much because your government got lazy and didn't watch its budget. too many people sitting in unproductive government jobs, paided too much, why people got away with not paying tax. its really shit for the grafters, the workers, tradesmen and businessmen in Greece, but fact is you have your previous governments to blame.
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06/20/2012 03:47 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
You know why Greece owes so much money?

Because we paid for Mercedes,Bmw,Audi,VW,Redbull,Lidl,Mediamarkt,Siemens etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18196891


You didnt have to buy those things you know. How did you even afford those Mercs car and Siemens tech?

You owe so much because your government got lazy and didn't watch its budget. too many people sitting in unproductive government jobs, paided too much, why people got away with not paying tax. its really shit for the grafters, the workers, tradesmen and businessmen in Greece, but fact is you have your previous governments to blame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17881579


Previous governments fo course,and Germany.
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06/20/2012 03:55 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
German monsters really never learn their lessons, because western powers didn't punish them at all for their crimes.

But watch out this time. If you cross the line, and you started to cross it, Russia will finish you and spare the world of your ugly racist nazi nation.
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06/20/2012 04:16 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
German monsters really never learn their lessons, because western powers didn't punish them at all for their crimes.

But watch out this time. If you cross the line, and you started to cross it, Russia will finish you and spare the world of your ugly racist nazi nation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11208322


Half of Poland is former german land. The germans there got slaughtered and the rest was driven out. All german cities were destroyed by british and american bombers. Millions of german lost everything. And thats if you take into account that the british declared war on germany, not the other way around, that the soviets were about to attack germany and all of europe before germany preempted that attack.

You know little.
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06/20/2012 04:20 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
I think Germany has emotional problem at least for the last 100 years.Nitsche was right about many things and germans said he was crazy.

Merkel wants to be the boss of Europe,wants to turn Europe into a federation and Berlin to be the capital of Europa.And they bully Greece.
We can demand all the money lost in WWII because of german invasion.They stole our gold,they caused casualties in human life and infrastructure and they took loans from the Central Bank of Greece and they never returned the money.
And is much more than the money Greece owes to the banksters!
It is about 500 billion-1 trillion.
We want some respect for gods shake and not treating us like an african country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18196891


Greece got compensation after the war. The situation is settled. You wouldnt even have mentioned it, if you werent broke. Why dont you greeks earn your money like others instead of borrowing it or claiming war reparations? Whats wrong with earing your own money?
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06/20/2012 04:22 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Germany doesn't own anything to anybody from WW2.
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06/20/2012 04:23 AM

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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Calm down for now OP. When things start to get ugly (You aint seen nothing yet) you can go to war soon enough.
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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06/20/2012 04:28 AM
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sad story, bro tissue
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06/20/2012 04:40 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Greece got compensation after the war. The situation is settled. You wouldnt even have mentioned it, if you werent broke. Why dont you greeks earn your money like others instead of borrowing it or claiming war reparations? Whats wrong with earing your own money?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18272503




You are definitively a payed shill and spreading disinfo.

Specifically for Greece, it has not been settled, you should have known that.
We are talking about the loan that Nazis enforced on Greece, they 'ordered; us to give a 'LOAN' to Germany and thus they took all of our gold.
That is outside of any war reparations as the German shills want to present this case.

That has not been settled.


Even though, these same guys foced us to pay back loans from late 1800's which we payed back in the last decade, yet THEY WANT US TO FORGIVE THEM THE LOAN THAT THEY TOOK ON 1940 !!

Shills of course know about these and try to dodge, I only hope that there are still those that are not (yet) BRAINWASHED from all the Goebbels descendants and their well known propaganda.

I only hope that there are left some that still can think for themselves.


YES, Germany has behaved for such long time (more than a century) as a a menace in the world and has to pay back.
And of course I dont expect all the so called 'satellite' countries that were at Germany's side on all wars to accept it..
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06/20/2012 04:47 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Greece got Billions from the EU! Greece has modern infrastructure because Germany paid for it! Greeks like to forget. Germany should demand that greece pays that money back because greece lied about their true financial state and they still do.
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06/20/2012 04:49 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Once again I see Greeks blaming the Germans even though it is their own fault. And to one of the Greece posters who mentioned ww1, you should refresh your knowledge about what started the war.
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06/20/2012 05:05 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Greece got Billions from the EU! Greece has modern infrastructure because Germany paid for it! Greeks like to forget. Germany should demand that greece pays that money back because greece lied about their true financial state and they still do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18272503



Money?

What money have you given?
You NEVER actually given us anything
[link to www.bloomberg.com]

What money do you refer to?
Those that you stole from us and keep 'forgetting' as the occupation loan?
[link to www.greece.org]

Or those that we, all the other countries, have given you and bailed you out countless times?
[link to www.spiegel.de]



Which money?

Last Edited by Kanenas on 06/20/2012 05:15 AM
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06/20/2012 05:07 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Greece got Billions from the EU! Greece has modern infrastructure because Germany paid for it! Greeks like to forget. Germany should demand that greece pays that money back because greece lied about their true financial state and they still do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18272503



Money?

What money have you given?

 Quoting: Kanenas


Are you even too lazy to read? Greece got billions through the EU. Germany paid for your modern roads and buildings. Are you willing to pay that back?
Kanenas

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06/20/2012 05:08 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Once again I see Greeks blaming the Germans even though it is their own fault. And to one of the Greece posters who mentioned ww1, you should refresh your knowledge about what started the war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1888806




My friend,
Germany is just receiving now what has spread out herself all those recent years regarding Greece.
We suffered much from your media's disinfo and mokery.
That has to stop.
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06/20/2012 05:09 AM

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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Once again I see Greeks blaming the Germans even though it is their own fault. And to one of the Greece posters who mentioned ww1, you should refresh your knowledge about what started the war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1888806




My friend,
Germany is just receiving now what has spread out herself all those recent years regarding Greece.
We suffered much from your media's disinfo and mokery.
That has to stop.
 Quoting: Kanenas


uh.. wait, what?

[link to p4.focus.de]
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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06/20/2012 05:11 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Greece got Billions from the EU! Greece has modern infrastructure because Germany paid for it! Greeks like to forget. Germany should demand that greece pays that money back because greece lied about their true financial state and they still do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18272503



Money?

What money have you given?

 Quoting: Kanenas


Are you even too lazy to read? Greece got billions through the EU. Germany paid for your modern roads and buildings. Are you willing to pay that back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18272503




I do read, ITS YOU that dont read anything that I've given you so far.

YOU cannot back your claims.
As said, either a heavily brainwashed, or a payed disinfo shill, thats what you are.

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06/20/2012 05:15 AM
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
Greece got Billions from the EU! Greece has modern infrastructure because Germany paid for it! Greeks like to forget. Germany should demand that greece pays that money back because greece lied about their true financial state and they still do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18272503



Money?

What money have you given?

 Quoting: Kanenas


Are you even too lazy to read? Greece got billions through the EU. Germany paid for your modern roads and buildings. Are you willing to pay that back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18272503




I do read, ITS YOU that dont read anything that I've given you so far.

YOU cannot back your claims.
As said, either a heavily brainwashed, or a payed disinfo shill, thats what you are.

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 Quoting: Kanenas


No i am not an agent. But im sure you are just a greek, thats for sure. Do you not even know that the EU channeled billions of money into your infrastructure during the last years? while at the same time you lied about your true financial state. Are you willing to pay that back? Are you willing to earn your money in an honest way for a change?
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Re: Do you think Greece must demand money from Germany for all the damage done in WWII?
German monsters really never learn their lessons, because western powers didn't punish them at all for their crimes.

But watch out this time. If you cross the line, and you started to cross it, Russia will finish you and spare the world of your ugly racist nazi nation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11208322


Half of Poland is former german land. The germans there got slaughtered and the rest was driven out. All german cities were destroyed by british and american bombers. Millions of german lost everything. And thats if you take into account that the british declared war on germany, not the other way around, that the soviets were about to attack germany and all of europe before germany preempted that attack.

You know little.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18272503


I may know little, but I see that you are nazi. What do you want, compassion for innocent Germans. Hitler portrayed as victim? Even if I ignore all your monstrosities from other countries, I know what you did in Yugoslavia. Kid slaughtering animals!!! Shame on you nazi apologist!

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