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TPTB or "Illuminati" are not your enemy! Abrahamist religions are the enemy!

 
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*SIGH*
oh unwise one, first start by reading the whole of these chapters instead of just picking the verses that suite you.
take for example, your daughter:
(hypothetical) say you had a time machine and by this you knew for a fact your daughter was going to grow up and kill millions of people, if not billions of people, would you give your daughters life for the sake of those millions/billions?
these people didnt follow what was commanded of them by their one true God, they spread evil like cocaroaches, murdering and killing, raping and stealing........... would it have been better to have let them live?
what would you do if someone....... your daughter, would you stand idely by?
not me id fucken kill the fuck if any of my kids were touched.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


You just don't even realize how very idiotic your argument is. It's sad, it really is.

If your "god" cared about sparing millions of people, first off, he WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE... and secondly he didn't do a THING about Pol Pot, Hitler, Mao Ze-dong, Leopold II, Ghengis Khan... blah blah blah.

So that is a STUPID ARGUMENT! Your "god" doesn't save anybody!

Those people just wanted that land and they justified themselves with PROPAGANDA... "God said it was ours!"

Christians are the ones that spread evil like cockroaches. You spread lies about humanity and about god. Christianity supports slavery and did so for thousands of years. Judaism did it thousands before that (the basis of your vile religion, FYI).

Followers of the abrahamic religions have been killing in the name of your violent, evil yahweh/jehovah character since they created him.

From the beginning of your religion it has been used to perpetrate evil.

YOUR OWN GOD SAYS HE CREATES EVIL.

And stop with the old standby of "them there was BAD people who woulda killed peeps!"

Cause your god has done NOTHING to prevent genocides all over the place!!

Those genocides were just that. Genocide in the name of your vile god because THE PERPETRATORS NEEDED PROPAGANDA for why they were running around slaughtering people. The soldiers won't murder infants? Just tell them god says so! VIOLA, it's GREAT TO MURDER INFANTS!

Sickness. You have a mind virus that says to excuse away ANY atrocity that's commited in the name of your god. No matter how ludicrous the idea is.

No one was being saved from genocide. Your "god" wasn't saving from genocide, he was PERPETRATING IT, and hasn't bothered to EVER stop a genocide since!

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*SIGH*
oh unwise one, first start by reading the whole of these chapters instead of just picking the verses that suite you.
take for example, your daughter:
(hypothetical) say you had a time machine and by this you knew for a fact your daughter was going to grow up and kill millions of people, if not billions of people, would you give your daughters life for the sake of those millions/billions?
these people didnt follow what was commanded of them by their one true God, they spread evil like cocaroaches, murdering and killing, raping and stealing........... would it have been better to have let them live?
what would you do if someone....... your daughter, would you stand idely by?
not me id fucken kill the fuck if any of my kids were touched.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


You just don't even realize how very idiotic your argument is. It's sad, it really is.

If your "god" cared about sparing millions of people, first off, he WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE... and secondly he didn't do a THING about Pol Pot, Hitler, Mao Ze-dong, Leopold II, Ghengis Khan... blah blah blah.

So that is a STUPID ARGUMENT! Your "god" doesn't save anybody!

Those people just wanted that land and they justified themselves with PROPAGANDA... "God said it was ours!"

Christians are the ones that spread evil like cockroaches. You spread lies about humanity and about god. Christianity supports slavery and did so for thousands of years. Judaism did it thousands before that (the basis of your vile religion, FYI).

Followers of the abrahamic religions have been killing in the name of your violent, evil yahweh/jehovah character since they created him.

From the beginning of your religion it has been used to perpetrate evil.

YOUR OWN GOD SAYS HE CREATES EVIL.

And stop with the old standby of "them there was BAD people who woulda killed peeps!"

Cause your god has done NOTHING to prevent genocides all over the place!!

Those genocides were just that. Genocide in the name of your vile god because THE PERPETRATORS NEEDED PROPAGANDA for why they were running around slaughtering people. The soldiers won't murder infants? Just tell them god says so! VIOLA, it's GREAT TO MURDER INFANTS!

Sickness. You have a mind virus that says to excuse away ANY atrocity that's commited in the name of your god. No matter how ludicrous the idea is.

No one was being saved from genocide. Your "god" wasn't saving from genocide, he was PERPETRATING IT, and hasn't bothered to EVER stop a genocide since!

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 Quoting: Sandi_T


clappa

Some people will never get it, but you hit the nail right on the head!! Keep up the Great Work, Sister!
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 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


You are a transparent mind-set of these people who belong to these secret-societies!

You all smell moldy! Even the mistical "art work".

You people are pathetic.

No wonder you need money to control - and get - others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18176000


Huh? I AM not a member of a secret society and just a normal Joe with good DNA who "gets it." I actually give most my money away to help my family with a job and to also help others online for free. I serve humanity with my money which in turns increases my Karmic influence to retain it and earn more if needed be. You either rule money and your life or it rules you. TPTB use your ignorance of this for their gain.

If I AM pathetic, then yous must be worthless. Hi, nice to meet you.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


um......... i'll take some of that money your given out?
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


He calls you worthless and then you ask for a handout!!!

Priceless!

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Abraxas IAO (OP)

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One more idiot,I see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3650237


they both are and op obviously wants a oneworldreligion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18281479


Anyone who opposes a 'One World' anything is rightfully an enemy to freedom, peace, justice and harmony. Haha, it's alright we've seen how disorganized and apathetic even your best attempts at resistance are. Trust me, we are not worried in the slightest.
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 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


You are a transparent mind-set of these people who belong to these secret-societies!

You all smell moldy! Even the mistical "art work".

You people are pathetic.

No wonder you need money to control - and get - others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18176000


Huh? I AM not a member of a secret society and just a normal Joe with good DNA who "gets it." I actually give most my money away to help my family with a job and to also help others online for free. I serve humanity with my money which in turns increases my Karmic influence to retain it and earn more if needed be. You either rule money and your life or it rules you. TPTB use your ignorance of this for their gain.

If I AM pathetic, then yous must be worthless. Hi, nice to meet you.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


um......... i'll take some of that money your given out?
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


lol, when I say I give it out, I mean I give jobs to people who I care about that need a job and I create a job if I can for them. Some people work out, many do not. I actually will make you earn it via an honest days work and make sure you work to earn that money. Believe it or not, this is not an easy thing to do. '

PS - I AM not rich at all. I just make decent money monthly that allows me to help, serve and be me.

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Re: TPTB or "Illuminati" are not your enemy! Abrahamist religions are the enemy!
*SIGH*
oh unwise one, first start by reading the whole of these chapters instead of just picking the verses that suite you.
take for example, your daughter:
(hypothetical) say you had a time machine and by this you knew for a fact your daughter was going to grow up and kill millions of people, if not billions of people, would you give your daughters life for the sake of those millions/billions?
these people didnt follow what was commanded of them by their one true God, they spread evil like cocaroaches, murdering and killing, raping and stealing........... would it have been better to have let them live?
what would you do if someone....... your daughter, would you stand idely by?
not me id fucken kill the fuck if any of my kids were touched.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


You just don't even realize how very idiotic your argument is. It's sad, it really is.

If your "god" cared about sparing millions of people, first off, he WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE... and secondly he didn't do a THING about Pol Pot, Hitler, Mao Ze-dong, Leopold II, Ghengis Khan... blah blah blah.

So that is a STUPID ARGUMENT! Your "god" doesn't save anybody!

Those people just wanted that land and they justified themselves with PROPAGANDA... "God said it was ours!"

Christians are the ones that spread evil like cockroaches. You spread lies about humanity and about god. Christianity supports slavery and did so for thousands of years. Judaism did it thousands before that (the basis of your vile religion, FYI).

Followers of the abrahamic religions have been killing in the name of your violent, evil yahweh/jehovah character since they created him.

From the beginning of your religion it has been used to perpetrate evil.

YOUR OWN GOD SAYS HE CREATES EVIL.

And stop with the old standby of "them there was BAD people who woulda killed peeps!"

Cause your god has done NOTHING to prevent genocides all over the place!!

Those genocides were just that. Genocide in the name of your vile god because THE PERPETRATORS NEEDED PROPAGANDA for why they were running around slaughtering people. The soldiers won't murder infants? Just tell them god says so! VIOLA, it's GREAT TO MURDER INFANTS!

Sickness. You have a mind virus that says to excuse away ANY atrocity that's commited in the name of your god. No matter how ludicrous the idea is.

No one was being saved from genocide. Your "god" wasn't saving from genocide, he was PERPETRATING IT, and hasn't bothered to EVER stop a genocide since!

wall
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Damn bitch!
tbh, i can give a shit what you think, wether you care for God or not (dont get me wrong wish you did), wether you like/love or care for Him, He is real, He is there, and one day you will have to look Him straight in the face, then you can tell Him all about it.
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*SIGH*
oh unwise one, first start by reading the whole of these chapters instead of just picking the verses that suite you.
take for example, your daughter:
(hypothetical) say you had a time machine and by this you knew for a fact your daughter was going to grow up and kill millions of people, if not billions of people, would you give your daughters life for the sake of those millions/billions?
these people didnt follow what was commanded of them by their one true God, they spread evil like cocaroaches, murdering and killing, raping and stealing........... would it have been better to have let them live?
what would you do if someone....... your daughter, would you stand idely by?
not me id fucken kill the fuck if any of my kids were touched.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


You just don't even realize how very idiotic your argument is. It's sad, it really is.

If your "god" cared about sparing millions of people, first off, he WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE... and secondly he didn't do a THING about Pol Pot, Hitler, Mao Ze-dong, Leopold II, Ghengis Khan... blah blah blah.

So that is a STUPID ARGUMENT! Your "god" doesn't save anybody!

Those people just wanted that land and they justified themselves with PROPAGANDA... "God said it was ours!"

Christians are the ones that spread evil like cockroaches. You spread lies about humanity and about god. Christianity supports slavery and did so for thousands of years. Judaism did it thousands before that (the basis of your vile religion, FYI).

Followers of the abrahamic religions have been killing in the name of your violent, evil yahweh/jehovah character since they created him.

From the beginning of your religion it has been used to perpetrate evil.

YOUR OWN GOD SAYS HE CREATES EVIL.

And stop with the old standby of "them there was BAD people who woulda killed peeps!"

Cause your god has done NOTHING to prevent genocides all over the place!!

Those genocides were just that. Genocide in the name of your vile god because THE PERPETRATORS NEEDED PROPAGANDA for why they were running around slaughtering people. The soldiers won't murder infants? Just tell them god says so! VIOLA, it's GREAT TO MURDER INFANTS!

Sickness. You have a mind virus that says to excuse away ANY atrocity that's commited in the name of your god. No matter how ludicrous the idea is.

No one was being saved from genocide. Your "god" wasn't saving from genocide, he was PERPETRATING IT, and hasn't bothered to EVER stop a genocide since!

wall
 Quoting: Sandi_T


clappa

Some people will never get it, but you hit the nail right on the head!! Keep up the Great Work, Sister!
 Quoting: Abraxas IAO


ya, the nail to her coffin.
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You are a transparent mind-set of these people who belong to these secret-societies!

You all smell moldy! Even the mistical "art work".

You people are pathetic.

No wonder you need money to control - and get - others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18176000


Huh? I AM not a member of a secret society and just a normal Joe with good DNA who "gets it." I actually give most my money away to help my family with a job and to also help others online for free. I serve humanity with my money which in turns increases my Karmic influence to retain it and earn more if needed be. You either rule money and your life or it rules you. TPTB use your ignorance of this for their gain.

If I AM pathetic, then yous must be worthless. Hi, nice to meet you.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


um......... i'll take some of that money your given out?
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


lol, when I say I give it out, I mean I give jobs to people who I care about that need a job and I create a job if I can for them. Some people work out, many do not. I actually will make you earn it via an honest days work and make sure you work to earn that money. Believe it or not, this is not an easy thing to do. '

PS - I AM not rich at all. I just make decent money monthly that allows me to help, serve and be me.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


what kinda work?
in so-Cal?
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One more idiot,I see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3650237


they both are and op obviously wants a oneworldreligion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18281479


Anyone who opposes a 'One World' anything is rightfully an enemy to freedom, peace, justice and harmony. Haha, it's alright we've seen how disorganized and apathetic even your best attempts at resistance are. Trust me, we are not worried in the slightest.
 Quoting: Abraxas IAO


no one said they didnt want a "One World" of peace or harmony, but if its one where your dumbass's rule and bring deception and bullshit to the table, that neither peace nor harmony now is it?
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Re: TPTB or "Illuminati" are not your enemy! Abrahamist religions are the enemy!
*SIGH*
oh unwise one, first start by reading the whole of these chapters instead of just picking the verses that suite you.
take for example, your daughter:
(hypothetical) say you had a time machine and by this you knew for a fact your daughter was going to grow up and kill millions of people, if not billions of people, would you give your daughters life for the sake of those millions/billions?
these people didnt follow what was commanded of them by their one true God, they spread evil like cocaroaches, murdering and killing, raping and stealing........... would it have been better to have let them live?
what would you do if someone....... your daughter, would you stand idely by?
not me id fucken kill the fuck if any of my kids were touched.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


You just don't even realize how very idiotic your argument is. It's sad, it really is.

If your "god" cared about sparing millions of people, first off, he WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE... and secondly he didn't do a THING about Pol Pot, Hitler, Mao Ze-dong, Leopold II, Ghengis Khan... blah blah blah.

So that is a STUPID ARGUMENT! Your "god" doesn't save anybody!

Those people just wanted that land and they justified themselves with PROPAGANDA... "God said it was ours!"

Christians are the ones that spread evil like cockroaches. You spread lies about humanity and about god. Christianity supports slavery and did so for thousands of years. Judaism did it thousands before that (the basis of your vile religion, FYI).

Followers of the abrahamic religions have been killing in the name of your violent, evil yahweh/jehovah character since they created him.

From the beginning of your religion it has been used to perpetrate evil.

YOUR OWN GOD SAYS HE CREATES EVIL.

And stop with the old standby of "them there was BAD people who woulda killed peeps!"

Cause your god has done NOTHING to prevent genocides all over the place!!

Those genocides were just that. Genocide in the name of your vile god because THE PERPETRATORS NEEDED PROPAGANDA for why they were running around slaughtering people. The soldiers won't murder infants? Just tell them god says so! VIOLA, it's GREAT TO MURDER INFANTS!

Sickness. You have a mind virus that says to excuse away ANY atrocity that's commited in the name of your god. No matter how ludicrous the idea is.

No one was being saved from genocide. Your "god" wasn't saving from genocide, he was PERPETRATING IT, and hasn't bothered to EVER stop a genocide since!

wall
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Damn bitch!
tbh, i can give a shit what you think, wether you care for God or not (dont get me wrong wish you did), wether you like/love or care for Him, He is real, He is there, and one day you will have to look Him straight in the face, then you can tell Him all about it.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


You call this beautiful, illuminated soul a 'bitch' and then proceed to harangue her about a lack of faith in a made-up 'god' and claim she will have to answer to "him"? Right...
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One more idiot,I see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3650237


they both are and op obviously wants a oneworldreligion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18281479


Anyone who opposes a 'One World' anything is rightfully an enemy to freedom, peace, justice and harmony. Haha, it's alright we've seen how disorganized and apathetic even your best attempts at resistance are. Trust me, we are not worried in the slightest.
 Quoting: Abraxas IAO


no one said they didnt want a "One World" of peace or harmony, but if its one where your dumbass's rule and bring deception and bullshit to the table, that neither peace nor harmony now is it?
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


And what would you bring to the table?
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Damn bitch!
tbh, i can give a shit what you think, wether you care for God or not (dont get me wrong wish you did), wether you like/love or care for Him, He is real, He is there, and one day you will have to look Him straight in the face, then you can tell Him all about it.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Of course God is real!

In point of fact, THANK GOD that the demon of the bible isn't real!

I have already looked God in the face. I've died and gone Home, and I know what's there. And I didn't even think to tell It anything. It told me all about life, Itself, and everything.

There is no violent, hateful beast squatting on a cloud waiting to use his magnifying glass to fry everyone--unless they're covered in the blood of his butchered 'son'...

The whole concept is sick and disgusting....

God hates you and wants to burn and torture you forever. But he looooves you so he had the GOOD son--which was actually him--tortured to death. Then he's going to cover you in the good son's blood so that he won't hate you and burn and torture you...

All makes such great sense.

TO A SOCIOPATH!

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Damn bitch!
tbh, i can give a shit what you think, wether you care for God or not (dont get me wrong wish you did), wether you like/love or care for Him, He is real, He is there, and one day you will have to look Him straight in the face, then you can tell Him all about it.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Of course God is real!

In point of fact, THANK GOD that the demon of the bible isn't real!

I have already looked God in the face. I've died and gone Home, and I know what's there. And I didn't even think to tell It anything. It told me all about life, Itself, and everything.

There is no violent, hateful beast squatting on a cloud waiting to use his magnifying glass to fry everyone--unless they're covered in the blood of his butchered 'son'...

The whole concept is sick and disgusting....

God hates you and wants to burn and torture you forever. But he looooves you so he had the GOOD son--which was actually him--tortured to death. Then he's going to cover you in the good son's blood so that he won't hate you and burn and torture you...

All makes such great sense.

TO A SOCIOPATH!

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You'll never know what it means to be alive until you know how it feels to die.

:)

Blessed are those of us who have already tasted the sweet, intoxicating wine of the hereafter.
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no one said they didnt want a "One World" of peace or harmony, but if its one where your dumbass's rule and bring deception and bullshit to the table, that neither peace nor harmony now is it?
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


First, in my experience what most people call "the illuminati" are actually the Collective.

I know little about the Illuminati themselves, but what I do know is that christian rule has brought what you state and worse.

Christian rule has not only brought deception and bullshit, but also genocide, rape, torture, infanticide, oppression, literal slavery, psychological torture, and a whole host of other evils.

I dunno, do we really have to choose between the horrors of christian rule, or some deception and bullshit? Cause given the historical facts of christian rule, deception and bullshit actually look good... which is just downright scary.

You call this beautiful, illuminated soul a 'bitch' and then proceed to harangue her about a lack of faith in a made-up 'god' and claim she will have to answer to "him"? Right...
 Quoting: Abraxas IAO


Well, I give him (or her) this much... I've been called far worse by christians on this forum. At least s/he hasn't accused me [yet] of literally eating babies...

rolleyes
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You'll never know what it means to be alive until you know how it feels to die.

:)

Blessed are those of us who have already tasted the sweet, intoxicating wine of the hereafter.
 Quoting: Abraxas IAO


I really think that may well be true. Having surfed the "stuff" of God, there is nothing on Earth that can make me truly afraid to die.

There are no words that can convey the profundity of what lies beyond.

And that's probably a good thing. No one would be willing to be here and do this work, if we all remembered what it was like to be Home. It is often unbearable, to know the magic of what's beyond that doorway.

I cannot fear death. I fear only the pain of dying or the consequences to others who love me, but never death itself.

Yet the greatest gift is life.

And this Krime person blows life off as if it were nothing. As if multitudes murdered is meaningless. Yet they died before they could give the gift of living their lives, and that is true theft.
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no one said they didnt want a "One World" of peace or harmony, but if its one where your dumbass's rule and bring deception and bullshit to the table, that neither peace nor harmony now is it?
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


First, in my experience what most people call "the illuminati" are actually the Collective.

I know little about the Illuminati themselves, but what I do know is that christian rule has brought what you state and worse.

Christian rule has not only brought deception and bullshit, but also genocide, rape, torture, infanticide, oppression, literal slavery, psychological torture, and a whole host of other evils.

I dunno, do we really have to choose between the horrors of christian rule, or some deception and bullshit? Cause given the historical facts of christian rule, deception and bullshit actually look good... which is just downright scary.

You call this beautiful, illuminated soul a 'bitch' and then proceed to harangue her about a lack of faith in a made-up 'god' and claim she will have to answer to "him"? Right...
 Quoting: Abraxas IAO


Well, I give him (or her) this much... I've been called far worse by christians on this forum. At least s/he hasn't accused me [yet] of literally eating babies...

rolleyes
 Quoting: Sandi_T


There is more deception and deceit within the Abrahamic religions of the world than within our various fraternal societies. If anything by keeping most of what we know a secret we are doing the world a favor - especially here in this placated, mind-numbed nation full of parasites. We do not wish to cause more suffering than is necessary though sometimes the ends do justify the means. We are actually more open about our agenda but if we told the mass populace exactly what we know they wouldn't believe us and even if they didn't they would still go absolutely crazy. It is true that some people simply cannot handle the truth.
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oh unwise one, first start by reading the whole of these chapters instead of just picking the verses that suite you.
take for example, your daughter:
(hypothetical) say you had a time machine and by this you knew for a fact your daughter was going to grow up and kill millions of people, if not billions of people, would you give your daughters life for the sake of those millions/billions?
these people didnt follow what was commanded of them by their one true God, they spread evil like cocaroaches, murdering and killing, raping and stealing........... would it have been better to have let them live?
what would you do if someone....... your daughter, would you stand idely by?
not me id fucken kill the fuck if any of my kids were touched.
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You just don't even realize how very idiotic your argument is. It's sad, it really is.

If your "god" cared about sparing millions of people, first off, he WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE... and secondly he didn't do a THING about Pol Pot, Hitler, Mao Ze-dong, Leopold II, Ghengis Khan... blah blah blah.

So that is a STUPID ARGUMENT! Your "god" doesn't save anybody!

Those people just wanted that land and they justified themselves with PROPAGANDA... "God said it was ours!"

Christians are the ones that spread evil like cockroaches. You spread lies about humanity and about god. Christianity supports slavery and did so for thousands of years. Judaism did it thousands before that (the basis of your vile religion, FYI).

Followers of the abrahamic religions have been killing in the name of your violent, evil yahweh/jehovah character since they created him.

From the beginning of your religion it has been used to perpetrate evil.

YOUR OWN GOD SAYS HE CREATES EVIL.

And stop with the old standby of "them there was BAD people who woulda killed peeps!"

Cause your god has done NOTHING to prevent genocides all over the place!!

Those genocides were just that. Genocide in the name of your vile god because THE PERPETRATORS NEEDED PROPAGANDA for why they were running around slaughtering people. The soldiers won't murder infants? Just tell them god says so! VIOLA, it's GREAT TO MURDER INFANTS!

Sickness. You have a mind virus that says to excuse away ANY atrocity that's commited in the name of your god. No matter how ludicrous the idea is.

No one was being saved from genocide. Your "god" wasn't saving from genocide, he was PERPETRATING IT, and hasn't bothered to EVER stop a genocide since!

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Damn bitch!
tbh, i can give a shit what you think, wether you care for God or not (dont get me wrong wish you did), wether you like/love or care for Him, He is real, He is there, and one day you will have to look Him straight in the face, then you can tell Him all about it.
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You call this beautiful, illuminated soul a 'bitch' and then proceed to harangue her about a lack of faith in a made-up 'god' and claim she will have to answer to "him"? Right...
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yup i sure did.
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they both are and op obviously wants a oneworldreligion
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Anyone who opposes a 'One World' anything is rightfully an enemy to freedom, peace, justice and harmony. Haha, it's alright we've seen how disorganized and apathetic even your best attempts at resistance are. Trust me, we are not worried in the slightest.
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no one said they didnt want a "One World" of peace or harmony, but if its one where your dumbass's rule and bring deception and bullshit to the table, that neither peace nor harmony now is it?
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And what would you bring to the table?
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mine is a different factor, as i do not wish to rule.
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You'll never know what it means to be alive until you know how it feels to die.

:)

Blessed are those of us who have already tasted the sweet, intoxicating wine of the hereafter.
 Quoting: Abraxas IAO


I really think that may well be true. Having surfed the "stuff" of God, there is nothing on Earth that can make me truly afraid to die.

There are no words that can convey the profundity of what lies beyond.

And that's probably a good thing. No one would be willing to be here and do this work, if we all remembered what it was like to be Home. It is often unbearable, to know the magic of what's beyond that doorway.

I cannot fear death. I fear only the pain of dying or the consequences to others who love me, but never death itself.

Yet the greatest gift is life.

And this Krime person blows life off as if it were nothing. As if multitudes murdered is meaningless. Yet they died before they could give the gift of living their lives, and that is true theft.
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I too have died. It was no near death experience or ritual initiation but full on flatlined and DEAD for over 10 minutes. It's a miracle of science that I'm not brain dead due to the amount of time spent without oxygen to the brain. I am perfectly healthy now. But yes, what I experienced has shaped my view of reality and it is NOT what people expect. It is far greater than anyone could ever imagine. I chose to come back and I won't lie there are times that I sincerely regret my decision but it was either come back to finish the work I had started or have to start all over. This is why in most mystery religions (even in Christianity) you have to DIE before you can truly live. We have been baptized in our own special way so let us never take it for granted. :)
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Anyone who opposes a 'One World' anything is rightfully an enemy to freedom, peace, justice and harmony. Haha, it's alright we've seen how disorganized and apathetic even your best attempts at resistance are. Trust me, we are not worried in the slightest.
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no one said they didnt want a "One World" of peace or harmony, but if its one where your dumbass's rule and bring deception and bullshit to the table, that neither peace nor harmony now is it?
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And what would you bring to the table?
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mine is a different factor, as i do not wish to rule.
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I was hoping for a battle of the wits but it appears that you have come unarmed! thwak
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Damn bitch!
tbh, i can give a shit what you think, wether you care for God or not (dont get me wrong wish you did), wether you like/love or care for Him, He is real, He is there, and one day you will have to look Him straight in the face, then you can tell Him all about it.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Of course God is real!

In point of fact, THANK GOD that the demon of the bible isn't real!

I have already looked God in the face. I've died and gone Home, and I know what's there. And I didn't even think to tell It anything. It told me all about life, Itself, and everything.

There is no violent, hateful beast squatting on a cloud waiting to use his magnifying glass to fry everyone--unless they're covered in the blood of his butchered 'son'...

The whole concept is sick and disgusting....

God hates you and wants to burn and torture you forever. But he looooves you so he had the GOOD son--which was actually him--tortured to death. Then he's going to cover you in the good son's blood so that he won't hate you and burn and torture you...

All makes such great sense.

TO A SOCIOPATH!

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same bullshit from an atheist i always get.
you've seen nothen yet lady, but mark my words, you will.
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you're being psychopathic by claiming that that is what christianity teaches and that that is what every christian does. I'll refrain to my earlier argument it is easy for you accuse when your so called religion remains hidden in the shadows so no one can truly know what blood is on your hands. As you continue to discriminate by using the terms, "christian" "muslim" "jewish" you only contradict your original argument.... Institutions don't act, people do, there are good and bad people, a NWO won't change this get over it...


Since you were too prejudiced to continue reading ^ is the rest of what I said.. peace to you friend
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16518282


The problem you run into is that in order to be in any of these three religions, and a good and decent person, YOU MUST OBEY THEIR BOOKS.

To be a decent human being and a christian, you must disobey the mandate from jesus to KEEP THE MOSAIC LAWS.

Etc. and et al.

Disobedience to these religions' texts is the only thing that makes any people who follow those texts be decent people.

By your way of reckoning, satanists aren't bad, and neither is their ideology or what they espouse.... no, it's individual satanists. What satanism teaches has nothing to do with it. What the satanic bible says doesn't matter.

It's only what the individual does that matters and satanism nor naziism are bad teachings in and of themselves, oh no. It's only what people DO with the teachings... yeah, that's the ticket.

Now your silly claims look as patently absurd as they really are.
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"you're being psychopathic by claiming that that is what christianity teaches and that that is what every christian does." In this statement I differentiated between the institutions and the persons, you understand that? I defended the institution of Christianity by claiming that what he was saying was not what Christianity teaches, understand? I also defended the individuals claiming that what he was saying is not one of their beliefs. Of course we can judge institutions by what they teach certainly Nazism is not good, but are you going to condemn a 9 year Hitler youth for being a Hitler youth when that is what s/he was raised to understand. I would hope not, you would decry the institution but not condemn the child, you'd hope to re-educate the child. Also this is what I've been trying to get at this whole time, how can we judge the individuals of the illuminati if we don't know who they are, and if they are a secret religion or "have secrets" how can we judge their institution.

"The problem you run into is that in order to be in any of these three religions, and a good and decent person, YOU MUST OBEY THEIR BOOKS." - this claim is complete nonsense, you are demonstrating that you actually do not understand these religions at all. For example, in the Catholic Church private interpretation of scripture is expressly forbidden. There are actually only two English translations and commentaries that have recieved full approval (meaning the commentary was approved with the translations) Unless you've read the 1582 Douay Rheims with annotations or the 2006 Navarre, you haven't even come close to understanding what the institution of the Catholic Church teaches... you'd also have to read 21 church councils to understand this. Also, it is a part of the Catholic faith that there can be conflicts between an individual's conscience and church teaching that are acceptable to the church. It is the same with Lutheranism, Calvinism, Evangelicals, various sects of Judaism and various sects of Islam as well.

Also you need to understand that sometimes people do things in the name of an institution that they don't belong to or that they don't represent. For instance there was recently a girl on youtube who said she was christian and was thanking God for all the Japanese that were killed in the tsunami. The video went viral and she later came out and admitted she was an atheist troll to stop the hate coming at her. Now am I supposed to declare that what this girl is doing represents all atheists and claim that Dawkins' book "The God Delusion" teaches this or that kids learn this behavior in Evolutionary theory class or should I read Dawkins' book, take an evolutionary theory class and then decide she was acting on her own and should be judged on her own? Also, should I judge christianity based on her initial video or also perhaps study it first?
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Damn bitch!
tbh, i can give a shit what you think, wether you care for God or not (dont get me wrong wish you did), wether you like/love or care for Him, He is real, He is there, and one day you will have to look Him straight in the face, then you can tell Him all about it.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Of course God is real!

In point of fact, THANK GOD that the demon of the bible isn't real!

I have already looked God in the face. I've died and gone Home, and I know what's there. And I didn't even think to tell It anything. It told me all about life, Itself, and everything.

There is no violent, hateful beast squatting on a cloud waiting to use his magnifying glass to fry everyone--unless they're covered in the blood of his butchered 'son'...

The whole concept is sick and disgusting....

God hates you and wants to burn and torture you forever. But he looooves you so he had the GOOD son--which was actually him--tortured to death. Then he's going to cover you in the good son's blood so that he won't hate you and burn and torture you...

All makes such great sense.

TO A SOCIOPATH!

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same bullshit from an atheist i always get.
you've seen nothen yet lady, but mark my words, you will.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


HAHAHA

Oh just wait until your eyes are opened, friend.

Just wait and see!
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no one said they didnt want a "One World" of peace or harmony, but if its one where your dumbass's rule and bring deception and bullshit to the table, that neither peace nor harmony now is it?
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


First, in my experience what most people call "the illuminati" are actually the Collective.

I know little about the Illuminati themselves, but what I do know is that christian rule has brought what you state and worse.

Christian rule has not only brought deception and bullshit, but also genocide, rape, torture, infanticide, oppression, literal slavery, psychological torture, and a whole host of other evils.

I dunno, do we really have to choose between the horrors of christian rule, or some deception and bullshit? Cause given the historical facts of christian rule, deception and bullshit actually look good... which is just downright scary.

You call this beautiful, illuminated soul a 'bitch' and then proceed to harangue her about a lack of faith in a made-up 'god' and claim she will have to answer to "him"? Right...
 Quoting: Abraxas IAO


Well, I give him (or her) this much... I've been called far worse by christians on this forum. At least s/he hasn't accused me [yet] of literally eating babies...

rolleyes
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that was Catholics, called at the time RCC, not Christian(s). Christians were killed right along with jewish people and non believers during the inquisition, get your facts strait.
baby eater????
wow, some people are more crazy than i thought.
i dont believe your Satanic, being so, you would have admitted there was a God for there to be a Satan.
No, i just think your lost, misinformed, and in desperate need of true love.
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You'll never know what it means to be alive until you know how it feels to die.

:)

Blessed are those of us who have already tasted the sweet, intoxicating wine of the hereafter.
 Quoting: Abraxas IAO


I really think that may well be true. Having surfed the "stuff" of God, there is nothing on Earth that can make me truly afraid to die.

There are no words that can convey the profundity of what lies beyond.

And that's probably a good thing. No one would be willing to be here and do this work, if we all remembered what it was like to be Home. It is often unbearable, to know the magic of what's beyond that doorway.

I cannot fear death. I fear only the pain of dying or the consequences to others who love me, but never death itself.

Yet the greatest gift is life.

And this Krime person blows life off as if it were nothing. As if multitudes murdered is meaningless. Yet they died before they could give the gift of living their lives, and that is true theft.
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no i think life is precious and valuble, thats why i want it everlasting.
and those people you said never had a chance?
being the offspring of rapist, murders ect. just think of where there lives would have been had they lived.
probably not a great thing to picture.
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no one said they didnt want a "One World" of peace or harmony, but if its one where your dumbass's rule and bring deception and bullshit to the table, that neither peace nor harmony now is it?
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


And what would you bring to the table?
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mine is a different factor, as i do not wish to rule.
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I was hoping for a battle of the wits but it appears that you have come unarmed! thwak
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would me telling you how i would do things if i did lead the NWO?
would that satisfy your debate itch?
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Damn bitch!
tbh, i can give a shit what you think, wether you care for God or not (dont get me wrong wish you did), wether you like/love or care for Him, He is real, He is there, and one day you will have to look Him straight in the face, then you can tell Him all about it.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Of course God is real!

In point of fact, THANK GOD that the demon of the bible isn't real!

I have already looked God in the face. I've died and gone Home, and I know what's there. And I didn't even think to tell It anything. It told me all about life, Itself, and everything.

There is no violent, hateful beast squatting on a cloud waiting to use his magnifying glass to fry everyone--unless they're covered in the blood of his butchered 'son'...

The whole concept is sick and disgusting....

God hates you and wants to burn and torture you forever. But he looooves you so he had the GOOD son--which was actually him--tortured to death. Then he's going to cover you in the good son's blood so that he won't hate you and burn and torture you...

All makes such great sense.

TO A SOCIOPATH!

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same bullshit from an atheist i always get.
you've seen nothen yet lady, but mark my words, you will.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


HAHAHA

Oh just wait until your eyes are opened, friend.

Just wait and see!
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i do not have to wait.
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"The problem you run into is that in order to be in any of these three religions, and a good and decent person, YOU MUST OBEY THEIR BOOKS." - this claim is complete nonsense, you are demonstrating that you actually do not understand these religions at all.
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That was a typo. It's supposed to say that you have to DISobey the books.

Because they all call for murdering people!
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Damn bitch!
tbh, i can give a shit what you think, wether you care for God or not (dont get me wrong wish you did), wether you like/love or care for Him, He is real, He is there, and one day you will have to look Him straight in the face, then you can tell Him all about it.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Of course God is real!

In point of fact, THANK GOD that the demon of the bible isn't real!

I have already looked God in the face. I've died and gone Home, and I know what's there. And I didn't even think to tell It anything. It told me all about life, Itself, and everything.

There is no violent, hateful beast squatting on a cloud waiting to use his magnifying glass to fry everyone--unless they're covered in the blood of his butchered 'son'...

The whole concept is sick and disgusting....

God hates you and wants to burn and torture you forever. But he looooves you so he had the GOOD son--which was actually him--tortured to death. Then he's going to cover you in the good son's blood so that he won't hate you and burn and torture you...

All makes such great sense.

TO A SOCIOPATH!

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same bullshit from an atheist i always get.
you've seen nothen yet lady, but mark my words, you will.
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Really? Atheists always say GOD DOES EXIST, but the "god" of the bible doesn't?

You don't actually know what an ATHEIST is, do you?
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