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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 17257112 United States 06/21/2012 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would call it more of a theatrical play, it all depends on how well you can act. We are really not so different, you and I. people are people dear brother. you my friend just have a very different outlook on shit. for instance: If the good book told you how it was going to go down (Revelations) then when seeing exactly what was said unfolding, why would you pick the other side? Creation needs a 'Devil' and the 'Devil' needs an advocate, I guess. :) We do have very different outlooks but that is what makes this crazy, messed up world - at times, very beautiful. |
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Sandi_T User ID: 15828781 United States 06/21/2012 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You still haven't addressed my argument. Your attacks are completely unfounded as you persist to claim that you have read all the scriptures of various institutions yet you have demonstrated that you don't know what those institutions teach unless you read the REQUIRED commentaries and councils that explain those texts. You essentially claim that everyone else is guilty by association and because you have no association you are somehow perfect and deserve to trash religious institutions and their followers when you have demonstrated you know nothing about them. You claim christians proseletyze yet I've been hammered with more of your New Age theosophy than I have been with christianity. Also, why are you here if not to proseletyze? I'm here to defend religious institutions (that aren't my own)and individuals against an illogical, discriminatory attack. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16518282 I concede, you are absolutely right. I have obviously misrepresented my position. The books are not the ONLY problem. The institutions are also problems. However, the institutions would not find it so easy to spread hatred and murder if the books didn't support them so readily. I apologize that I made it sound like the various institutions that use the books aren't also at fault for the horrors perpetrated. However, since their FOUNDATIONS are the books, it's easy to see why so many of the institutions are brutal regimes. Now, on to the rest of your crap. You've never once been "hammered" with "[my] New Age" anything. In point of fact, I do not openly discuss the spiritual truths I know because swine like you trample it underfoot. I am here to discuss the topic of the thread. I know that might be a little difficult for you to grasp, but there you have it. And I am here to DEFEND HUMANITY against religions whose core philosophies are anti-human and anti-God. I have studied the institutions and I have studied the books. And most of the institutions are deeply loathesome... and it's easy to see why. Because to make themselves "good", they must discard and/or outright DISOBEY the books they espouse as "absolute truth". I have spent YEARS studying these religions. Wasted years of my life, except for the fact that I can now defend Seekers against their lies with ease. And THAT is my work in this area. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Sandi_T User ID: 15828781 United States 06/21/2012 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ROFL! Quoting: Krime 15335079 good night, go run off scared, cuz you know damn well your wrong. lets just say for arguments sake, oldest Torah 1500bc, RCC didnt write their bible till what 235ad, some where around there, thats a looooong way off from the RCC writting the OT girly. have fun, dream of God. lol Right, because if I don't stay up all night and get no sleep at all, I am "running scared". I'd pretend that I was impressed by your dedication, but dude, it's the internetz... can you say "taking it WAY too seriuosly"! You may not be able to sleep until you get TEH INTERNETZ WIN! but not all of us have such obsessive-compulsive tendencies. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
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Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 06/21/2012 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, please. OP is not illuminati; just read the thread page 1 he started assuming that role after someone said he was pushing their agenda. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580 I am of the Ancient Order of Illumination and I have Brothers in very high places. I did not assume any role but have been true to myself this entire thread. I'm afraid many here have a very skewed perception of what this "Illuminati" is all about. Is it true that the 'illumined' one's do not call themselves Illuminati? That's what I heard. It must be that they do not call themselves that to each other, as you have called yourself that to us. Or, am I way off? "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Abraxas IAO (OP) User ID: 17257112 United States 06/21/2012 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, please. OP is not illuminati; just read the thread page 1 he started assuming that role after someone said he was pushing their agenda. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580 I am of the Ancient Order of Illumination and I have Brothers in very high places. I did not assume any role but have been true to myself this entire thread. I'm afraid many here have a very skewed perception of what this "Illuminati" is all about. Is it true that the 'illumined' one's do not call themselves Illuminati? That's what I heard. It must be that they do not call themselves that to each other, as you have called yourself that to us. Or, am I way off? This is true. The "Illuminati", as catchy and intriguing as it sounds, is not what we call ourselves. We refer to ourselves as being "Illuminated" but we also speak of our Brothers as "Telestai" meaning "those who have aim". |
Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 06/21/2012 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, please. OP is not illuminati; just read the thread page 1 he started assuming that role after someone said he was pushing their agenda. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580 I am of the Ancient Order of Illumination and I have Brothers in very high places. I did not assume any role but have been true to myself this entire thread. I'm afraid many here have a very skewed perception of what this "Illuminati" is all about. Is it true that the 'illumined' one's do not call themselves Illuminati? That's what I heard. It must be that they do not call themselves that to each other, as you have called yourself that to us. Or, am I way off? This is true. The "Illuminati", as catchy and intriguing as it sounds, is not what we call ourselves. We refer to ourselves as being "Illuminated" but we also speak of our Brothers as "Telestai" meaning "those who have aim". Not sure how much you are willing to divulge, but if you don't mind, I would like to ask just a couple questions. Approximately how many 'illumined' ones are there? And, how many are the 'inner circle'? "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 06/21/2012 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you and yours think of the world as a stage, and we are all actors playing our parts? And if so, what about Free Will? Why is Buddhism of interest? Is the end goal (in this 'era') of society structure to become based on a foundation of Meritocracy? "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Abraxas IAO (OP) User ID: 17257112 United States 06/21/2012 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Abraxas IAO I am of the Ancient Order of Illumination and I have Brothers in very high places. I did not assume any role but have been true to myself this entire thread. I'm afraid many here have a very skewed perception of what this "Illuminati" is all about. Is it true that the 'illumined' one's do not call themselves Illuminati? That's what I heard. It must be that they do not call themselves that to each other, as you have called yourself that to us. Or, am I way off? This is true. The "Illuminati", as catchy and intriguing as it sounds, is not what we call ourselves. We refer to ourselves as being "Illuminated" but we also speak of our Brothers as "Telestai" meaning "those who have aim". Not sure how much you are willing to divulge, but if you don't mind, I would like to ask just a couple questions. Approximately how many 'illumined' ones are there? And, how many are the 'inner circle'? I will tell you this - the so called "Global Elite" / "Cabal" are NOT of us. They are aspirants at best. Neophytes. When you are truly "Illuminated" by light and truth, enlightened as some call it, you do not hoard wealth nor do you seek power - instead you dedicate your life to personal sacrifice for the great good of humanity. Hence why in all the stories of "Christ"-like figures throughout history they have been 'Suffering Servants' and have given their life for a noble cause. Most of the work that we accomplish is done on the Astral but there is of course the laws of cause and effect and what transpires in one realm will have a noticeable reaction in this one. Imagining us as wealthy, aristocratic white men in designer suits sitting in a smoke-filled board room of sorts planning out what major catastrophe will be orchestrated next; this is the biggest pitfall humanity has in understanding us. I hope this makes sense. |
Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 06/21/2012 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Is it true that the 'illumined' one's do not call themselves Illuminati? That's what I heard. It must be that they do not call themselves that to each other, as you have called yourself that to us. Or, am I way off? This is true. The "Illuminati", as catchy and intriguing as it sounds, is not what we call ourselves. We refer to ourselves as being "Illuminated" but we also speak of our Brothers as "Telestai" meaning "those who have aim". Not sure how much you are willing to divulge, but if you don't mind, I would like to ask just a couple questions. Approximately how many 'illumined' ones are there? And, how many are the 'inner circle'? I will tell you this - the so called "Global Elite" / "Cabal" are NOT of us. They are aspirants at best. Neophytes. When you are truly "Illuminated" by light and truth, enlightened as some call it, you do not hoard wealth nor do you seek power - instead you dedicate your life to personal sacrifice for the great good of humanity. Hence why in all the stories of "Christ"-like figures throughout history they have been 'Suffering Servants' and have given their life for a noble cause. Most of the work that we accomplish is done on the Astral but there is of course the laws of cause and effect and what transpires in one realm will have a noticeable reaction in this one. Imagining us as wealthy, aristocratic white men in designer suits sitting in a smoke-filled board room of sorts planning out what major catastrophe will be orchestrated next; this is the biggest pitfall humanity has in understanding us. I hope this makes sense. I have heard the same thing from certain 'friends'. It makes 100% perfect sense, and is in-line with how I would view them. I never equated them with the elite or the cabals even when I didn't know anything about them, I could not see that as being the case. Can they/you enter the Astral at will? When meeting other illumined ones in the Astral, how...crap, this is hard to express. Both are fully aware/conscious while over there. How does the environment interact with two conscious entities within the same layer 'act'? When both come back to a normal waking state, would they describe the environment the same way? Or would they both have a different version of what the environment looked like? My guess is that the predetermine what the environment will look like, so they both have a similar experience. For example, making the astral environment entirely white. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2311429 United Kingdom 06/21/2012 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, there is a website that we all probably know of (that nobody on here ever mentions by name so neither will I) claiming to be written by Illuminati initiates. Is it anything approaching the real deal? It espouses very similar beliefs to those you've expressed (and that I have to say I agree with largely). Have the Illuminati ever sanctioned the release of information or the creation of a website? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18341898 United States 06/21/2012 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you and yours think of the world as a stage, and we are all actors playing our parts? And if so, what about Free Will? Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Why is Buddhism of interest? Is the end goal (in this 'era') of society structure to become based on a foundation of Meritocracy? I love the idea of a Mertocracy but after seeing cronyism especially in regards to the current western cultures that run the world I can't buy in to the idea. Don't think a world full of manipulative predators who jack up their rats and sheep are going to go in a world where basically every end of the pyramid will be crushed by the idea of fair share and fair reward for what you actually do. |
Abraxas IAO (OP) User ID: 17257112 United States 06/21/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Abraxas IAO This is true. The "Illuminati", as catchy and intriguing as it sounds, is not what we call ourselves. We refer to ourselves as being "Illuminated" but we also speak of our Brothers as "Telestai" meaning "those who have aim". Not sure how much you are willing to divulge, but if you don't mind, I would like to ask just a couple questions. Approximately how many 'illumined' ones are there? And, how many are the 'inner circle'? I will tell you this - the so called "Global Elite" / "Cabal" are NOT of us. They are aspirants at best. Neophytes. When you are truly "Illuminated" by light and truth, enlightened as some call it, you do not hoard wealth nor do you seek power - instead you dedicate your life to personal sacrifice for the great good of humanity. Hence why in all the stories of "Christ"-like figures throughout history they have been 'Suffering Servants' and have given their life for a noble cause. Most of the work that we accomplish is done on the Astral but there is of course the laws of cause and effect and what transpires in one realm will have a noticeable reaction in this one. Imagining us as wealthy, aristocratic white men in designer suits sitting in a smoke-filled board room of sorts planning out what major catastrophe will be orchestrated next; this is the biggest pitfall humanity has in understanding us. I hope this makes sense. I have heard the same thing from certain 'friends'. It makes 100% perfect sense, and is in-line with how I would view them. I never equated them with the elite or the cabals even when I didn't know anything about them, I could not see that as being the case. Can they/you enter the Astral at will? When meeting other illumined ones in the Astral, how...crap, this is hard to express. Both are fully aware/conscious while over there. How does the environment interact with two conscious entities within the same layer 'act'? When both come back to a normal waking state, would they describe the environment the same way? Or would they both have a different version of what the environment looked like? My guess is that the predetermine what the environment will look like, so they both have a similar experience. For example, making the astral environment entirely white. We can enter the Astral as easily as one connects to the Internet - though I will tell you that what one experiences on their end may not (and is usually not) the same. I will explain it like this; what I have set as my GUI (Graphical User Interface) on my computer (wallpaper, icons, etc) are not the same as yours - though we access, transmit and receive a great deal of the same information. Very rarely, when meeting in the Astral, do we take a bodily form. We are synapses or signals within the Greater Cosmic Mind. The information that we relay to one another is much akin to the concept of 'uploading' and 'downloading' data. Though there are many that have mastered the laws that govern the Astral realm and are able to override certain 'settings'. :) |
Abraxas IAO (OP) User ID: 17257112 United States 06/21/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, there is a website that we all probably know of (that nobody on here ever mentions by name so neither will I) claiming to be written by Illuminati initiates. Is it anything approaching the real deal? It espouses very similar beliefs to those you've expressed (and that I have to say I agree with largely). Have the Illuminati ever sanctioned the release of information or the creation of a website? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2311429 There are many websites that we allow to speak certain truths, though we run a much larger disinformation campaign. |
Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 06/21/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you and yours think of the world as a stage, and we are all actors playing our parts? And if so, what about Free Will? Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Why is Buddhism of interest? Is the end goal (in this 'era') of society structure to become based on a foundation of Meritocracy? I love the idea of a Mertocracy but after seeing cronyism especially in regards to the current western cultures that run the world I can't buy in to the idea. Don't think a world full of manipulative predators who jack up their rats and sheep are going to go in a world where basically every end of the pyramid will be crushed by the idea of fair share and fair reward for what you actually do. That is why there would have to be a consciousness shift to make Meritocracy work. I agree with ya. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 06/21/2012 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Not sure how much you are willing to divulge, but if you don't mind, I would like to ask just a couple questions. Approximately how many 'illumined' ones are there? And, how many are the 'inner circle'? I will tell you this - the so called "Global Elite" / "Cabal" are NOT of us. They are aspirants at best. Neophytes. When you are truly "Illuminated" by light and truth, enlightened as some call it, you do not hoard wealth nor do you seek power - instead you dedicate your life to personal sacrifice for the great good of humanity. Hence why in all the stories of "Christ"-like figures throughout history they have been 'Suffering Servants' and have given their life for a noble cause. Most of the work that we accomplish is done on the Astral but there is of course the laws of cause and effect and what transpires in one realm will have a noticeable reaction in this one. Imagining us as wealthy, aristocratic white men in designer suits sitting in a smoke-filled board room of sorts planning out what major catastrophe will be orchestrated next; this is the biggest pitfall humanity has in understanding us. I hope this makes sense. I have heard the same thing from certain 'friends'. It makes 100% perfect sense, and is in-line with how I would view them. I never equated them with the elite or the cabals even when I didn't know anything about them, I could not see that as being the case. Can they/you enter the Astral at will? When meeting other illumined ones in the Astral, how...crap, this is hard to express. Both are fully aware/conscious while over there. How does the environment interact with two conscious entities within the same layer 'act'? When both come back to a normal waking state, would they describe the environment the same way? Or would they both have a different version of what the environment looked like? My guess is that the predetermine what the environment will look like, so they both have a similar experience. For example, making the astral environment entirely white. We can enter the Astral as easily as one connects to the Internet - though I will tell you that what one experiences on their end may not (and is usually not) the same. I will explain it like this; what I have set as my GUI (Graphical User Interface) on my computer (wallpaper, icons, etc) are not the same as yours - though we access, transmit and receive a great deal of the same information. Very rarely, when meeting in the Astral, do we take a bodily form. We are synapses or signals within the Greater Cosmic Mind. The information that we relay to one another is much akin to the concept of 'uploading' and 'downloading' data. Though there are many that have mastered the laws that govern the Astral realm and are able to override certain 'settings'. :) ha! awesome. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Muzzle User ID: 4431506 United States 06/21/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds more like Dr. Strange than TPTB. In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values." MuzzleBreak |
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KnightsTemplar.TV User ID: 15777966 United States 06/21/2012 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV Cuz they be selling out their own peeps dog and the peeps don't even know it. "I do it for the money / man, I am such a hooker / and freedom was my girl / until they fuckin' took her" - Lil Wayne Sums up pretty much what you said KT.TV ;) May I ask whereabouts you reside, my friend? I'd love to chat privately with you. Perhaps over at PS? I see you around there from time to time but have difficulty catching you. I AM in Northern County of San Diego in California. PS? Regards, Moe [link to GnosticWarrior.com] THERE IS A WAR FOR YOUR SOUL! [link to www.LoanSafe.org] FIGHTING BIG BANKS! |
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Abraxas IAO (OP) User ID: 17257112 United States 06/21/2012 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Abraxas IAO "I do it for the money / man, I am such a hooker / and freedom was my girl / until they fuckin' took her" - Lil Wayne Sums up pretty much what you said KT.TV ;) May I ask whereabouts you reside, my friend? I'd love to chat privately with you. Perhaps over at PS? I see you around there from time to time but have difficulty catching you. I AM in Northern County of San Diego in California. PS? Philosophers Stone! :) Or after the recent name change and website revamp, NWI? |
KnightsTemplar.TV User ID: 15777966 United States 06/21/2012 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Is it true that the 'illumined' one's do not call themselves Illuminati? That's what I heard. It must be that they do not call themselves that to each other, as you have called yourself that to us. Or, am I way off? This is true. The "Illuminati", as catchy and intriguing as it sounds, is not what we call ourselves. We refer to ourselves as being "Illuminated" but we also speak of our Brothers as "Telestai" meaning "those who have aim". Not sure how much you are willing to divulge, but if you don't mind, I would like to ask just a couple questions. Approximately how many 'illumined' ones are there? And, how many are the 'inner circle'? I will tell you this - the so called "Global Elite" / "Cabal" are NOT of us. They are aspirants at best. Neophytes. When you are truly "Illuminated" by light and truth, enlightened as some call it, you do not hoard wealth nor do you seek power - instead you dedicate your life to personal sacrifice for the great good of humanity. Hence why in all the stories of "Christ"-like figures throughout history they have been 'Suffering Servants' and have given their life for a noble cause. Most of the work that we accomplish is done on the Astral but there is of course the laws of cause and effect and what transpires in one realm will have a noticeable reaction in this one. Imagining us as wealthy, aristocratic white men in designer suits sitting in a smoke-filled board room of sorts planning out what major catastrophe will be orchestrated next; this is the biggest pitfall humanity has in understanding us. I hope this makes sense. Hence, what this means is that their works, signs and DNA identify them and not say 33 degrees or a mortal man with a blog and a lot of time on his conspiracy hands. But these same said 33 degrees and mortal men must decide to believe or not these illumined ones where in the past more often than not, they simply killed them. The Sons of Ammon/Ben Hadad = The immortals. Regards, Moe [link to GnosticWarrior.com] THERE IS A WAR FOR YOUR SOUL! [link to www.LoanSafe.org] FIGHTING BIG BANKS! |
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KnightsTemplar.TV User ID: 15777966 United States 06/21/2012 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | May I ask whereabouts you reside, my friend? I'd love to chat privately with you. Perhaps over at PS? I see you around there from time to time but have difficulty catching you. I AM in Northern County of San Diego in California. PS? Philosophers Stone! :) Or after the recent name change and website revamp, NWI? Yes, I AM there often and am liking it much better now that we have some brothers with intelligence whom I can share, learn and grow with. Regards, Moe [link to GnosticWarrior.com] THERE IS A WAR FOR YOUR SOUL! [link to www.LoanSafe.org] FIGHTING BIG BANKS! |
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Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 06/21/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Abraxas IAO May I ask whereabouts you reside, my friend? I'd love to chat privately with you. Perhaps over at PS? I see you around there from time to time but have difficulty catching you. I AM in Northern County of San Diego in California. PS? Philosophers Stone! :) Or after the recent name change and website revamp, NWI? Yes, I AM there often and am liking it much better now that we have some brothers with intelligence whom I can share, learn and grow with. Hey KT, I stopped hanging around there because the chat used to be pretty boring. I'll start going back there more often. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |