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Joel Osteen Says You're All Going To Heaven!!!

 
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Larry King: "Because we've had ministers on who said, your record don't count.  You either believe in Christ or you don't.  If you believe in Christ, you are, you are going to heaven.  And if you don't no matter what you've done in your life, you ain't."

Joel Osteen: "Yeah, I don't know.  There's probably a balance between. I believe you have to know Christ.  But I think that if you know Christ, if you're a believer in God, you're going to have some good works.  I think it's a cop-out to say I'm a Christian but I don't ever do anything..."

Larry King: "What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all?"

Joel Osteen: "You know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven.  I don't know..."

Larry King: "If you believe you have to believe in Christ?  They're wrong, aren't they?"

Joel Osteen: "Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong.  I believe here's what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe.  But I just think that only God with judge a person's heart.  I spent a lot of time in India with my father.  I don't know all about their religion.  But I know they love God.  And I don't know.  I've seen their sincerity.  So I don't know.  I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus."

(Joel Osteen, "Larry King live," Aired June 20, 2005)

Note: Joel Osteen has just denied his calling as a pastor and a minister of Christ.  A man that cannot bring himself to say that Jesus is the only way to heaven should resign from the ministry (John 14:6; 1 Timothy 2:5; Acts 4:12).

Larry King: "But don't you think if people don't believe as you believe, they're somehow condemned?"

Joel Osteen: "You know, I think that happens in our society.  But I try not to do that.  I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it.  I'm for everybody.  You may not agree with me, but to me it's not my job to try to straighten everybody out.  The Gospel called the good news.  My message is a message of hope, that's God's for you. You can live a good life no matter what's happened to you.  And so I don't know.  I know there is condemnation but I don't feel that's my place."

(Joel Osteen, "Larry King live," Aired June 20, 2005)

Note: Jesus taught: "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil," John 3:18-19.

Larry King: "Is -- have you always believed?"

Joel Osteen: "I have always believed.  I grew up, you know, my parents were a good Christian people.  They showed us love in the home. My parents were the same in the pulpit as they were at home.  I think that's where a lot of preachers' kids get off base sometimes.  Because they don't see the same things at both places.  But I've always believed.  I saw it through my parents. And I just grew up believing."

(Joel Osteen, "Larry King live," Aired June 20, 2005)

Note: Joel says, "I've always believed."  That's impossible!  There has to have been a time in your life when you made a decision to repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your savior.  If we take Joel Osteen's words to millions of viewers of the Larry King show at face value it is impossible for him to even be a Christian!

Larry King: "You don't call them sinners?"

Joel Oteen: "I don't."

Larry King: "Is that a word you don't use?"

Joel Osteen: "I don't use it.  I never thought about it.  But I probably don't. But most people already know what they're doing wrong.  When I get them to church I want to tell them that you can change.  There can be a difference in your life.  So I don't go down the road of condemning."

(Joel Osteen, "Larry King live," Aired June 20, 2005)

Note: Wow!  If you're a Christian--these unbiblical statements from the pastor of America's largest church should cause us all to fall to our knees in prayer for the Church of Christ and the shepherds that are supposed to protect and warn the sheep about men that preach a different gospel.

"At the biggest church in the country, Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas, Pastor Joel Osteen preaches to some 25,000 people each week -- and sin is not on the menu.  Osteen said his goal is to "give people a boost for the week."

"I think for years there's been a lot of hellfire and damnation.  You go to church to figure out what you're doing wrong and you leave feeling bad like you're not going to make it," Osteen said.  "We believe in focusing on the goodness of God."

...Osteen defends Lakewood's ways, saying the lively and inclusive atmosphere is attracting a whole new generation of parishioners."

..."It's not a churchy feel," Osteen, 40, said.  "We don't have crosses up there.  We believe in all that, but I like to take the barriers down that have kept people from coming.  A lot of people who come now are people that haven't been to church in 20 to 30 years."

("Religion Gets Supersized at Megachurches," Tuesday, February 03, 2004.  By Amy C. Sims.  Fox News) 
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I could have told you that. Joel Osteen is a TRUE Christian,not a pretender.

This statement should be the credo of all Christians because it is true:

"You know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven. I don't know..."
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Larry King: "How about issues that the church has feelings about? Abortion?  Same-sex marriages?"

Joel Osteen: "Yeah.  You know what, Larry?  I don't go there.  I just ..."

Larry King: "You have thoughts, though."

Joel Osteen: "I have thoughts.  I just, you know, I don't think that a same-sex marriage is the way God intended it to be.  I don't think abortion is the best. I think there are other, you know, a better way to live your life. But I'm not going to condemn those people.  I tell them all the time our church is open for everybody."

(Joel Osteen, "Larry King live," Aired June 20, 2005)


Gangel: Why do you think you are so popular?

Osteen: Maybe it's the fact that I'm younger, I'm not beating people over the head, and that I'm saying that there are good things in store — you can make it in life.  Most of the stuff that I minister [is] not real complicated deep things. 

Gangel: You admit that it's not complicated and not deep.

Osteen: No, I admit that.  It's [the] simple things."
("Joel Osteen doesn’t preach just to the choir," MSNBC News)
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Larry King's a tard

I wouldn't be caught dead on his show
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I wouldn't be caught dead on his show


He's been calling you?
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Why did I bother opening this screwy thread?

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You know, when I first saw him on TV I freaked out and thought he really was the antichrist's false prophet but he does say things that are backed by the bible. it does freak me out to have a globe up there, it is almost like he is telling everyone that he wants a one world religion but doing silently. I do enjoy his messages but as I watch him on TV I can't help but wonder just how many people would come if he started telling them the raw truth of the bible and allowing the word to be the sword it was intended to be. I wonder what would happen if he read more of the bible to these people and does he teach about the power of the holy spirit? Speaking in tounges? Does he tell the people that they need to ask God to give them a new birth? Does he tell them good medicine or give them good advice? I just don't know>>> I'm into new age philosophy including the law of attraction and I could put money on it that he is too.. I think that he is doing a great job using Christianity to raise everyone's vibrations because who wants to think about burning in hell for all eternity..
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I'd be magnanimous also if I had that much dough.
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He says "abortion.. not the best".

A man of God would quote some simple scripture like "though shalt not kill" or "I knew you before you were born". and take a stand.

Oh, that might offend somebody though.

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Larry King: "Because we've had ministers on who said, your record don't count.  You either believe in Christ or you don't.  If you believe in Christ, you are, you are going to heaven.  And if you don't no matter what you've done in your life, you ain't."

Joel Osteen: "Yeah, I don't know.  There's probably a balance between. I believe you have to know Christ.  But I think that if you know Christ, if you're a believer in God, you're going to have some good works.  I think it's a cop-out to say I'm a Christian but I don't ever do anything..."

Larry King: "What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all?"

Joel Osteen: "You know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven.  I don't know..."

Larry King: "If you believe you have to believe in Christ?  They're wrong, aren't they?"

Joel Osteen: "Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong.  I believe here's what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe.  But I just think that only God with judge a person's heart.  I spent a lot of time in India with my father.  I don't know all about their religion.  But I know they love God.  And I don't know.  I've seen their sincerity.  So I don't know.  I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus."

(Joel Osteen, "Larry King live," Aired June 20, 2005)

Note: Joel Osteen has just denied his calling as a pastor and a minister of Christ.  A man that cannot bring himself to say that Jesus is the only way to heaven should resign from the ministry (John 14:6; 1 Timothy 2:5; Acts 4:12).

Larry King: "But don't you think if people don't believe as you believe, they're somehow condemned?"

Joel Osteen: "You know, I think that happens in our society.  But I try not to do that.  I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it.  I'm for everybody.  You may not agree with me, but to me it's not my job to try to straighten everybody out.  The Gospel called the good news.  My message is a message of hope, that's God's for you. You can live a good life no matter what's happened to you.  And so I don't know.  I know there is condemnation but I don't feel that's my place."

(Joel Osteen, "Larry King live," Aired June 20, 2005)

Note: Jesus taught: "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil," John 3:18-19.

Larry King: "Is -- have you always believed?"

Joel Osteen: "I have always believed.  I grew up, you know, my parents were a good Christian people.  They showed us love in the home. My parents were the same in the pulpit as they were at home.  I think that's where a lot of preachers' kids get off base sometimes.  Because they don't see the same things at both places.  But I've always believed.  I saw it through my parents. And I just grew up believing."

(Joel Osteen, "Larry King live," Aired June 20, 2005)

Note: Joel says, "I've always believed."  That's impossible!  There has to have been a time in your life when you made a decision to repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your savior.  If we take Joel Osteen's words to millions of viewers of the Larry King show at face value it is impossible for him to even be a Christian!

Larry King: "You don't call them sinners?"

Joel Oteen: "I don't."

Larry King: "Is that a word you don't use?"

Joel Osteen: "I don't use it.  I never thought about it.  But I probably don't. But most people already know what they're doing wrong.  When I get them to church I want to tell them that you can change.  There can be a difference in your life.  So I don't go down the road of condemning."

(Joel Osteen, "Larry King live," Aired June 20, 2005)

Note: Wow!  If you're a Christian--these unbiblical statements from the pastor of America's largest church should cause us all to fall to our knees in prayer for the Church of Christ and the shepherds that are supposed to protect and warn the sheep about men that preach a different gospel.

"At the biggest church in the country, Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas, Pastor Joel Osteen preaches to some 25,000 people each week -- and sin is not on the menu.  Osteen said his goal is to "give people a boost for the week."

"I think for years there's been a lot of hellfire and damnation.  You go to church to figure out what you're doing wrong and you leave feeling bad like you're not going to make it," Osteen said.  "We believe in focusing on the goodness of God."

...Osteen defends Lakewood's ways, saying the lively and inclusive atmosphere is attracting a whole new generation of parishioners."

..."It's not a churchy feel," Osteen, 40, said.  "We don't have crosses up there.  We believe in all that, but I like to take the barriers down that have kept people from coming.  A lot of people who come now are people that haven't been to church in 20 to 30 years."

("Religion Gets Supersized at Megachurches," Tuesday, February 03, 2004.  By Amy C. Sims.  Fox News) 
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Joel Osteen doesn't serve God, he serves himself, as is typical of many popular preachers. Yeah, he makes people feel good so they can rationalize their sin and still hold their heads up. Pitiful!

I actually liked him until several years ago when he and his wife threw a fit on an airliner that they weren't being served well enough in First Class.

He is only guiding more people to Hell, as are many.

Read "The Harbinger" by Messianic Jew Rabbi Jonathan Cahn who gave the powerful message at the Prayer Breakfast on Inaguration Day.

And watch for many more signs from God. Blessings On All!
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Mr. Osteen is a judgment:


I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry. (2 Timothy 4:1-5 ESV)
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NO MONEY CHANGING IN THE TEMPLE
I thought that was the word to Christians?
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NO MONEY CHANGING IN THE TEMPLE
I thought that was the word to Christians?
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Paying teachers who teach sound doctrine is one thing, paying wolves who fleece the flock is something else.
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Meanwhile...

In the rest of the world, things that mattered were still going on.
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Meanwhile...

In the rest of the world, things that mattered were still going on.
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It has been going on for thousands of years! The establishment of israel has effects on the whole world, including you
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NO MONEY CHANGING IN THE TEMPLE
I thought that was the word to Christians?
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Paying teachers who teach sound doctrine is one thing, paying wolves who fleece the flock is something else.
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Everything costs money these days. Very simple.

I think most true pastors feel they're paid spiritually

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