yep, glp nails it many times. that does not make any of the threads "truth". even if they make sense, it does not convert to "truth". been my experience folks who claim to have the "truth" really just want ye to stop thinking. and that was and is my only objection to the op. the claim that is was all proven truth. that is where my disagreement comes from. it may well be "true" but what i read was not proven, just stated. i've not seen evidence to "prove" it and i reserve the right to use my own bullshit meter....

don't like using fear myself. it sure persuades a lot of folks, but i don't like fear. smacks of control. for any single item there are always other possibilities and interpretations. i'm not in a position to know which, if any, are true but i do know fear sells nearly as much as sex.