California man charged & jailed for refusing treatment for TB | |
ladyannie2009 (OP) User ID: 16637469 United States 06/20/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's another link to different site....has a bit more information [link to www.healthmap.org] "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
mr...bojangles User ID: 17247311 Mexico 06/20/2012 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | state induced genocide.... Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
Serenity777 User ID: 1129812 United States 06/20/2012 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the very least... watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18285190 United Kingdom 06/20/2012 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4103987 Norway 06/20/2012 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TB is contagious and if you do not follow the meds correctly it evolves and becomes incurable. If that happens it could infect and kill thousands. FFs educate yourselves, nearly every country has this policy of arresting and forcing treatment for TB because of idiots who refuse and then go on to unwittingly spread the infection and so kill others with the deadly variants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4103987 Norway 06/20/2012 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
-GooGooFlexy- User ID: 1238529 United States 06/20/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/20/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with what happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4103987 TB is contagious and if you do not follow the meds correctly it evolves and becomes incurable. TB is usually a false diagnosis. The WHO has warned about it. If this man had knowledge he could easily have challenged his diagnosis. WHO warns against the use of inaccurate blood tests for active tuberculosis [link to www.who.int] Another pharma scam endorsed by government monopoly of force. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/20/2012 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17604067 United Kingdom 06/20/2012 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with what happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4103987 TB is contagious and if you do not follow the meds correctly it evolves and becomes incurable. If that happens it could infect and kill thousands. FFs educate yourselves, nearly every country has this policy of arresting and forcing treatment for TB because of idiots who refuse and then go on to unwittingly spread the infection and so kill others with the deadly variants. obvious proxy post, advocating pharma.. :D tb is caused by bacteria that is common to everyone and even having an active infection isn't going to give someone else tb who is healthy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17604067 United Kingdom 06/20/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It can be spread as easily as a cold and it doesn't care who you are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4103987 If you get the deadly version you die, simples. lol what a backwards way of looking at it. there is no deadly version, its all to do if you can cope with the infection, if you cant, they call it the deadly version.. its kinda stupid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/20/2012 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1538919 United States 06/20/2012 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "He said he had alcohol and methamphetamine and was concerned that TB medication would affect his liver...' what a tard, he drinks and takes drugs and he's worried that TB treatment will damage his liver? THIS tard is a good example as to why we now have drug resistant forms of TB. He starts the treatment and then stops giving the disease time to reboot, stronger...he should be locked up and forced to be treated as a condition of release, and if he refuses, TYPHOID MARY his ass. That stupid woman caused the death of many people and the ONLY way to stop her was to lock her ass up....TB is deadly and easily spread, you all up on his rights? They YOU go stay with him~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17604067 United Kingdom 06/20/2012 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a tough one. He's a risk to others without treatment...the penalty is too stiff though. Quoting: -GooGooFlexy- its no risk to others. as most people carry the tb bacteria anyway. i mean where do you think this man got it from? tb is only a problem when your body cant manage bacteria in the lungs. otherwise most having tb bacteria present isnt going to cause a problem. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17604067 United Kingdom 06/20/2012 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "He said he had alcohol and methamphetamine and was concerned that TB medication would affect his liver...' Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1538919 what a tard, he drinks and takes drugs and he's worried that TB treatment will damage his liver? THIS tard is a good example as to why we now have drug resistant forms of TB. He starts the treatment and then stops giving the disease time to reboot, stronger...he should be locked up and forced to be treated as a condition of release, and if he refuses, TYPHOID MARY his ass. That stupid woman caused the death of many people and the ONLY way to stop her was to lock her ass up....TB is deadly and easily spread, you all up on his rights? They YOU go stay with him~ this is absolute bullshit, bacteria do not react and become stronger, this is rubbish they tell you to make you think this way. bacteria may mutate, infact it does regular. some mutations make it resistant to treatment, some dont and some mutations make it more aggressive, some dont. its only when you have a combination of mutations that makes it resistant and more aggressive that you experience the situation your referring to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/20/2012 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17604067 United Kingdom 06/20/2012 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One third of the world's population is thought to have been infected with M. tuberculosis,[3] with new infections occurring at a rate of about one per second.[3] In 2007, there were an estimated 13.7 million chronic active cases globally,[4] while in 2010 there were an estimated 8.8 million new cases and 1.5 million associated deaths, mostly occurring in developing countries.[5] The absolute number of tuberculosis cases has been decreasing since 2006, and new cases have decreased since 2002.[5] The distribution of tuberculosis is not uniform across the globe; about 80% of the population in many Asian and African countries test positive in tuberculin tests, while only 5–10% of the United States population tests positive.[1] More people in the developing world contract tuberculosis because of compromised immunity, largely due to high rates of HIV infection and the corresponding development of AIDS.[ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17604067 United Kingdom 06/20/2012 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One third of the world's population is thought to have been infected with M. tuberculosis,[3] with new infections occurring at a rate of about one per second.[3] In 2007, there were an estimated 13.7 million chronic active cases globally,[4] while in 2010 there were an estimated 8.8 million new cases and 1.5 million associated deaths, mostly occurring in developing countries.[5] The absolute number of tuberculosis cases has been decreasing since 2006, and new cases have decreased since 2002.[5] The distribution of tuberculosis is not uniform across the globe; about 80% of the population in many Asian and African countries test positive in tuberculin tests, while only 5–10% of the United States population tests positive.[1] More people in the developing world contract tuberculosis because of compromised immunity, largely due to high rates of HIV infection and the corresponding development of AIDS.[ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17604067 remember testing means how much as a ratio is in the blood or other sample. its always present, just the ratio means positive or negative test. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4103987 Norway 06/20/2012 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with what happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4103987 TB is contagious and if you do not follow the meds correctly it evolves and becomes incurable. If that happens it could infect and kill thousands. FFs educate yourselves, nearly every country has this policy of arresting and forcing treatment for TB because of idiots who refuse and then go on to unwittingly spread the infection and so kill others with the deadly variants. obvious proxy post, advocating pharma.. :D tb is caused by bacteria that is common to everyone and even having an active infection isn't going to give someone else tb who is healthy. Advocating Pharma what a poorly educated sheep you are, go and research it yourself and you will come away agreeing with what happened. Millions have died over the past few hundred years from tb, ring your local hospital and ask them what they think. Better still go find an outbreak zone get coughed or sneezed on and go and die quietly drowning in your own mucus filled lungs. Have fun. And for the record I'm on a cell phone muppet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17604067 United Kingdom 06/20/2012 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with what happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4103987 TB is contagious and if you do not follow the meds correctly it evolves and becomes incurable. If that happens it could infect and kill thousands. FFs educate yourselves, nearly every country has this policy of arresting and forcing treatment for TB because of idiots who refuse and then go on to unwittingly spread the infection and so kill others with the deadly variants. obvious proxy post, advocating pharma.. :D tb is caused by bacteria that is common to everyone and even having an active infection isn't going to give someone else tb who is healthy. Advocating Pharma what a poorly educated sheep you are, go and research it yourself and you will come away agreeing with what happened. Millions have died over the past few hundred years from tb, ring your local hospital and ask them what they think. Better still go find an outbreak zone get coughed or sneezed on and go and die quietly drowning in your own mucus filled lungs. Have fun. And for the record I'm on a cell phone muppet. i have already address all of your replies in anticipation of them.. now read over my replied and cross off all your points one by one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4103987 Norway 06/20/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with what happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4103987 TB is contagious and if you do not follow the meds correctly it evolves and becomes incurable. TB is usually a false diagnosis. The WHO has warned about it. If this man had knowledge he could easily have challenged his diagnosis. WHO warns against the use of inaccurate blood tests for active tuberculosis [link to www.who.int] Another pharma scam endorsed by government monopoly of force. So what do you do, wait for the bodys to pile up?. I don't agree with most medicine but hey it reduces the population right!. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17604067 United Kingdom 06/20/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with what happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4103987 TB is contagious and if you do not follow the meds correctly it evolves and becomes incurable. TB is usually a false diagnosis. The WHO has warned about it. If this man had knowledge he could easily have challenged his diagnosis. WHO warns against the use of inaccurate blood tests for active tuberculosis [link to www.who.int] Another pharma scam endorsed by government monopoly of force. So what do you do, wait for the bodys to pile up?. I don't agree with most medicine but hey it reduces the population right!. i think you were convinced already it does, so truth no longer matters, unless you willing to seek it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/20/2012 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Advocating Pharma lol what a poorly educated sheep you are, go and research it yourself Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4103987 Many of us already did. Manyx of us have searched the PUBMED database for any evidence of your preposterous claims - that you obviously learned from secondary sourcesy, like the Discovery Channel - and found nothing, zero, zip, null. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4103987 Norway 06/20/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It can be spread as easily as a cold and it doesn't care who you are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4103987 If you get the deadly version you die, simples. lol what a backwards way of looking at it. there is no deadly version, its all to do if you can cope with the infection, if you cant, they call it the deadly version.. its kinda stupid. If we go with your logic then let the guy wander around maybe he'll avoid those who are being treated for cancer and everyone else who's immune system is weak due to other common ailments. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/20/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17883560 United States 06/20/2012 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's funny that at the same time they are ignoring wide spread vitamin D deficiency problem which makes it much more likely to contract TB. [link to www.google.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17604067 United Kingdom 06/20/2012 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4103987 Norway 06/20/2012 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with what happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4103987 TB is contagious and if you do not follow the meds correctly it evolves and becomes incurable. If that happens it could infect and kill thousands. FFs educate yourselves, nearly every country has this policy of arresting and forcing treatment for TB because of idiots who refuse and then go on to unwittingly spread the infection and so kill others with the deadly variants. obvious proxy post, advocating pharma.. :D tb is caused by bacteria that is common to everyone and even having an active infection isn't going to give someone else tb who is healthy. Advocating Pharma what a poorly educated sheep you are, go and research it yourself and you will come away agreeing with what happened. Millions have died over the past few hundred years from tb, ring your local hospital and ask them what they think. Better still go find an outbreak zone get coughed or sneezed on and go and die quietly drowning in your own mucus filled lungs. Have fun. And for the record I'm on a cell phone muppet. i have already address all of your replies in anticipation of them.. now read over my replied and cross off all your points one by one. I'll stick to what science says not some obvious halfwit paranoid retard like yourself, take note that since this policy was adopted rates of tb outbreaks have dropped. The proof in the pudding... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1538919 United States 06/20/2012 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | people have been dying of consumption and giving it to others for centuries....so all of you who are against this man being treated, and who firmly believe that it's a plot...I expect you to volunteer to pass a week in his company...LOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/20/2012 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About 90% of those infected with Mycobacterium tuberculosis remain asymptomatic with only a 10% lifetime chance of getting the disease. In these conditions, Mycobacterium tuberculosis doesn not fulfil several Koch postulates necessary to demonstrate causation, so it's very unlikely for this microorganism to be the cause of the disease. |