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My hypothesis: Magnetism

 
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why just magnetism?

aren't electric & magnetic fields two sides of the same coin?
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why just magnetism?

aren't electric & magnetic fields two sides of the same coin?
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particle/wave :)
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why just magnetism?

aren't electric & magnetic fields two sides of the same coin?
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I believe electromagnetism must involve an induced current through magnet?

I'm not sure.

I've had a few beers now. We will see if my thought comes back later lol
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why just magnetism?

aren't electric & magnetic fields two sides of the same coin?
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I believe electromagnetism must involve an induced current through magnet?

I'm not sure.

I've had a few beers now. We will see if my thought comes back later lol
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dont forget, to listen to maurice cotterell glp podcast

it might give you that epiphany!
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Not trying to be hyper-critical...yet, I'm trying to find the wisdom of championing a subject that you cannot understand, or explain; I'm sure if you had studied the subject beforehand, your audience would be more forgiving.
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Is this to me or people in the thread?

I am curious :). :hiding:
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Electromagnetic radiation.....

I was going somewhere with this....

Something, something, something, and so forth...

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There are supposedly only four forces:

Strong and Weak Nuclear forces (not proven, theoretical)

Gravity (not even remotely understood yet)

And the ELECTROmagnetic force (EVERYTHING else)

Magnetism is an effect of electricity, they are in fact two sides of the same coin.

You obviously don't even grasp that yet. You've got a lot of learning to do before you spout off like this.

Read this, it might help get you on the right track:

[link to www.holoscience.com]
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There are supposedly only four forces:

Strong and Weak Nuclear forces (not proven, theoretical)

Gravity (not even remotely understood yet)

And the ELECTROmagnetic force (EVERYTHING else)

Magnetism is an effect of electricity, they are in fact two sides of the same coin.

You obviously don't even grasp that yet. You've got a lot of learning to do before you spout off like this.

Read this, it might help get you on the right track:

[link to www.holoscience.com]
 Quoting: DrKnow 17884534


I think you are just upset that I have a different idea than you.

Of course gravity isn't understood. So why do we rely so much on this force?

An electromagnet minus the electro half is still a magnet.

Plus, im not spouting.

This is GLP. I can say what I want.
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Magnetism should be the force we take on the hardest and study the most.

You may have seen me post this before, but I believe magnetism is a highly unsung force played in the universe.

No Magnetism = No Objects = No Mass = No Gravity

Mass is the force that creates gravity by bending spacetime, no?

If that is the case, then you need objects to bend spacetime, which can only be present with magnetism.
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


There is definitely a link between electromagnetism and gravity. Officially, they haven't found it yet (Unified Field Theory). Unofficially, they are using it to power the UFOs. I believe Tesla had discovered the equations, but TPTB are keeping it under wraps for their own purposes.

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Re: My hypothesis: Magnetism
There are supposedly only four forces:

Strong and Weak Nuclear forces (not proven, theoretical)

Gravity (not even remotely understood yet)

And the ELECTROmagnetic force (EVERYTHING else)

Magnetism is an effect of electricity, they are in fact two sides of the same coin.

You obviously don't even grasp that yet. You've got a lot of learning to do before you spout off like this.

Read this, it might help get you on the right track:

[link to www.holoscience.com]
 Quoting: DrKnow 17884534


I think you are just upset that I have a different idea than you.

Of course gravity isn't understood. So why do we rely so much on this force?

An electromagnet minus the electro half is still a magnet.

Plus, im not spouting.

This is GLP. I can say what I want.
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Thank you for the link.
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Thread: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob.

The "magnetic" aspect of electromagnetism is as complementary to the "electric" component as "time" and "space" are to space-time.
Pursue Truth.

This hard, tangible thing we call reality: the chair you sit upon, the computer, your beverage, cigarette, the air around you, is composed of 99.99999...% Space. Contrary to popular belief, energy-mass does not define the Space, but rather is defined -by- the Space. The all-permeating Space is a vibrating, infinitely dense medium of geometric discretion; a cube octahedral vector equillibrium. This is the One existence, and the only thing that exists, simultaneously. There is nothing else.

We do not live in a "big bang" universe.
We do not live in a "created" reality.
Our reality is a perpetually -creating- model, and It is aware.
Space is aware.
I AM aware.
"God", some call it.
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Aren't we getting a little off subject now?

I'm proposing that gravity is a result/byproduct of magnetism.

And, I suppose, now we are lumping electro-magnetic and magnetic into the same catergory.
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Mmmmmmm magnetism....Need I say more?
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No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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This looks very cool....

I will watch this later, as I am at work and have a shitty connection lol
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The basis for all matter...... pure energy is ElectroMagnetic. How it exists is a subject in question.
The basic building block is a photon which is considered to be an oscillating(spinning) EM structure. It propogates as a coupled pair E & M with an orthogonal phase relationship........ maximum electrical gradient at minimum magnetic gradient.

The medium in which EM exists is undefined and one might ask the question...... does time exist for a photon?

As I have stated before it is my belief that E & M are the same force just rotated orthogonally in hyperspace.
One Truth.... many realities
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The basis for all matter...... pure energy is ElectroMagnetic. How it exists is a subject in question.
The basic building block is a photon which is considered to be an oscillating(spinning) EM structure. It propogates as a coupled pair E & M with an orthogonal phase relationship........ maximum electrical gradient at minimum magnetic gradient.

The medium in which EM exists is undefined and one might ask the question...... does time exist for a photon?

As I have stated before it is my belief that E & M are the same force just rotated orthogonally in hyperspace.
 Quoting: scimitar


That is interesting...

Do you think that electromagnetism can account for some of the subtle energies that we give credit to other "forces", though I believe they are a byproduct of magnetism. A chain reaction.
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The basis for all matter...... pure energy is ElectroMagnetic. How it exists is a subject in question.
The basic building block is a photon which is considered to be an oscillating(spinning) EM structure. It propogates as a coupled pair E & M with an orthogonal phase relationship........ maximum electrical gradient at minimum magnetic gradient.

The medium in which EM exists is undefined and one might ask the question...... does time exist for a photon?

As I have stated before it is my belief that E & M are the same force just rotated orthogonally in hyperspace.
 Quoting: scimitar


That is interesting...

Do you think that electromagnetism can account for some of the subtle energies that we give credit to other "forces", though I believe they are a byproduct of magnetism. A chain reaction.
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


Aether...

Is this a path created by magnetism?

Or a web I guess...

I think they could be pathways...
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Magnetism should be the force we take on the hardest and study the most.

You may have seen me post this before, but I believe magnetism is a highly unsung force played in the universe.

No Magnetism = No Objects = No Mass = No Gravity

Mass is the force that creates gravity by bending spacetime, no?

If that is the case, then you need objects to bend spacetime, which can only be present with magnetism.
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


There is definitely a link between electromagnetism and gravity. Officially, they haven't found it yet (Unified Field Theory). Unofficially, they are using it to power the UFOs. I believe Tesla had discovered the equations, but TPTB are keeping it under wraps for their own purposes.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


Thread found here
[link to www.energeticforum.com]

Found missing info from Tesla Radiant Energy Patent
Refer to the article by j j thomson "on the discharge of electricity produced by the rontgen rays, and the effects produced by these rays on dielectrics through which they pass" at the [link to royalsocietypublishing.org]

I believe that Tesla was charging his insulated plate in patent 685957 using an electrophorus (negative static charge) static prior to connecting to the rest of the circuit.

Or possibly using a large bank of batteries. The elevated plate beging negatively charged and possibly the ground plate being positively charge. This provides the condenser and the plates to be in series with the environment

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Re: My hypothesis: Magnetism
you may well be correct

its possible that magnetism is both a wave and a particle, just like light.
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Do particles not travel in magnetic flux lines?

:)

I like this thread more and more now lol
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magnetic flux lines are interference patterns.

crystalline structure can allow the atoms to share an aligned spin state. these aligned spin-state atoms create a field with an aligned spin-state that will either attract or repel another field, based on its own spin-state.

we all are made of the same thing , the non-granular SuperFluid ( described and Proven Logically in the UPN ) , And hence All the Phenomenons possible in the Universe ( including us ) can only be Waves , Vortexes and their Harmonics
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The basis for all matter...... pure energy is ElectroMagnetic. How it exists is a subject in question.
The basic building block is a photon which is considered to be an oscillating(spinning) EM structure. It propogates as a coupled pair E & M with an orthogonal phase relationship........ maximum electrical gradient at minimum magnetic gradient.

The medium in which EM exists is undefined and one might ask the question...... does time exist for a photon?

As I have stated before it is my belief that E & M are the same force just rotated orthogonally in hyperspace.
 Quoting: scimitar


That is interesting...

Do you think that electromagnetism can account for some of the subtle energies that we give credit to other "forces", though I believe they are a byproduct of magnetism. A chain reaction.
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


Aether...

Is this a path created by magnetism?

Or a web I guess...

I think they could be pathways...
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


magnetism is a result of certain arrangements of micro-vortices in the superfluid.

i suppose that's a bit of a null statement though, as it applies to everything...
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O.P. , here is a treat for all your mental courage!!!!
Magnetism drives the UFO's that have and are visiting earth.
Magnetism keeps the sun together and working, hence magnetism is responsible for life on earth.
THE PHOTON IS AN ELECTRO-MAGNETIC PARTICLE/WAVE.
"Let there be life"
God prefers electro-MAGNETISM
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Feel free to belittle and criticize.

I want answers. Not shit people have already said.
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and what makes you think you're going to be able to even partially comprehend THE answer

No, really, op, answer that
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simple

ELETROMAGNETISM
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So then why is everything bound to the ecliptic for the most part
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Anything spinning will gravitate to the ecliptic. You are asking "Why"? Then my response will be 'angular momentum'. Then you will ask what is angular momentum? Movement. What causes movement? At that point we need to go back. We need 2 causes to manifest to a singular effect. What is movement. What is charge? What is magnetism? In the material, they are inseparable. One cannot exist without the other.

So, back to the question, So then why is everything bound to the ecliptic

Because of the way movement of a charge moves through its self created field of magnetism. The only way it can be stable is the charge moving laterally through the sphere of dipoled magnetism, which eventually causes the sphere to invert back in on itself.

Since this original form can only be stabilized by lateral movement, then it will be a natural tendency for all spinning geometrically spherical shapes to have an angular momentum that is bound to gravitate towards the ecliptic.

I guess.
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Oh yeah, forgot something. This explains why it will be a perpetual form. Because the movement is light. Light is constant.

Basically, it is light (movement) getting trapped within charge/magnetism. This structure creates 'mass'.
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The basis for all matter...... pure energy is ElectroMagnetic. How it exists is a subject in question.
The basic building block is a photon which is considered to be an oscillating(spinning) EM structure. It propogates as a coupled pair E & M with an orthogonal phase relationship........ maximum electrical gradient at minimum magnetic gradient.

The medium in which EM exists is undefined and one might ask the question...... does time exist for a photon?

As I have stated before it is my belief that E & M are the same force just rotated orthogonally in hyperspace.
 Quoting: scimitar


That is interesting...

Do you think that electromagnetism can account for some of the subtle energies that we give credit to other "forces", though I believe they are a byproduct of magnetism. A chain reaction.
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


Aether...

Is this a path created by magnetism?

Or a web I guess...

I think they could be pathways...
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


this arose today rockon

Tesla's "Dynamic Theory of Gravity" is still classified after it was confiscated. He made reference to it claiming it was Electromagnetic in nature and was prepared to publish. After his death the gov't confiscated it and everything else. Tesla was not known to make announcements of upcoming papers without first having a prototype to prove his theories.

But as you said, free electricity is not desired by those in charge. Too many billions at stake, unemployment would skyrocket, economies collapse.
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Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 619)
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Tesla's "Dynamic Theory of Gravity" is still classified after it was confiscated. He made reference to it claiming it was Electromagnetic in nature and was prepared to publish. After his death the gov't confiscated it and everything else. Tesla was not known to make announcements of upcoming papers without first having a prototype to prove his theories.

But as you said, free electricity is not desired by those in charge. Too many billions at stake, unemployment would skyrocket, economies collapse.
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[link to peswiki.com]
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Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 619)
 Quoting: aether


Dammit! I was right again! lol Holy crap! I knew it was a byproduct of EM!

He made reference to it claiming it was Electromagnetic in nature
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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