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Holder retracts assertion that Bush team knew about F&F | |
| Lubertdas User ID: 1487421  United States06/20/2012 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States06/20/2012 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not so fast with your assertions that Bush admin knew of F&F. Quoting: Lubertdas 1487421 "In a second major retraction over its version of the the gun-walking scandal, the Justice Department has retracted Attorney General Eric Holder's charge in a hearing last week that his Bush administration predecessor had been briefed on the affair. In a memo just released by Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Iowa senator reveals that Holder also didn't apologize to former Attorney General Michael Mukasey for dragging him into the Fast & Furious scandal that is headed for a major legal clash and likely contempt of Congress charge against Holder." [link to washingtonexaminer.com] 5 stars, Obama lied about it a year ago. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| Lubertdas (OP) User ID: 1487421 United States06/20/2012 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not so fast with your assertions that Bush admin knew of F&F. Quoting: Lubertdas 1487421 "In a second major retraction over its version of the the gun-walking scandal, the Justice Department has retracted Attorney General Eric Holder's charge in a hearing last week that his Bush administration predecessor had been briefed on the affair. In a memo just released by Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Iowa senator reveals that Holder also didn't apologize to former Attorney General Michael Mukasey for dragging him into the Fast & Furious scandal that is headed for a major legal clash and likely contempt of Congress charge against Holder." [link to washingtonexaminer.com] 5 stars, Obama lied about it a year ago. [link to www.youtube.com] Thanks for my first pin! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States06/20/2012 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not so fast with your assertions that Bush admin knew of F&F. Quoting: Lubertdas 1487421 "In a second major retraction over its version of the the gun-walking scandal, the Justice Department has retracted Attorney General Eric Holder's charge in a hearing last week that his Bush administration predecessor had been briefed on the affair. In a memo just released by Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Iowa senator reveals that Holder also didn't apologize to former Attorney General Michael Mukasey for dragging him into the Fast & Furious scandal that is headed for a major legal clash and likely contempt of Congress charge against Holder." [link to washingtonexaminer.com] 5 stars, Obama lied about it a year ago. [link to www.youtube.com] Thanks for my first pin!  |
| ladyannie2009 User ID: 16637469 United States06/20/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sure would be nice to be to privy to all the DC chatter going on tonight  "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
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| Lubertdas (OP) User ID: 1487421 United States06/20/2012 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holder testifies and the media report what he said the first time around. Now he very quietly pulls it back and revises it and barely a peep in the media? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3677166 Very interesting, and even more sinister.  Further rebuttal of the liberal assertion that Fast and Furious began under the Bush admin... Attempts by Democrats to pin the Fast and Furious operation on Bush, however, don’t stand. National Review’s Andrew McCarthy explains: Wide Receiver actually involved not gun-walking but controlled delivery. Unlike gun-walking, which seems (for good reason) to have been unheard of until Fast & Furious, controlled delivery is a very common law enforcement tactic. … To the contrary, Fast & Furious involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons. It was an utterly heedless program in which the feds allowed these guns to be sold to straw purchasers — often leaning on reluctant gun dealers to make the sales. The straw purchasers were not followed by close physical surveillance; they were freely permitted to bulk transfer the guns to, among others, Mexican drug gangs and other violent criminals — with no agents on hand to swoop in, make arrests, and grab the firearms. The inevitable result of this was that the guns have been used (and will continue to be used) in many crimes, including the murder of Brian Terry, a U.S. border patrol agent. |
| Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States06/20/2012 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So Holder lied about this and he also lied about anybody at the WH knowing about F&F. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States06/20/2012 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holder testifies and the media report what he said the first time around. Now he very quietly pulls it back and revises it and barely a peep in the media? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3677166 Very interesting, and even more sinister. Further rebuttal of the liberal assertion that Fast and Furious began under the Bush admin... Attempts by Democrats to pin the Fast and Furious operation on Bush, however, don’t stand. National Review’s Andrew McCarthy explains: Wide Receiver actually involved not gun-walking but controlled delivery. Unlike gun-walking, which seems (for good reason) to have been unheard of until Fast & Furious, controlled delivery is a very common law enforcement tactic. … To the contrary, Fast & Furious involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons. It was an utterly heedless program in which the feds allowed these guns to be sold to straw purchasers — often leaning on reluctant gun dealers to make the sales. The straw purchasers were not followed by close physical surveillance; they were freely permitted to bulk transfer the guns to, among others, Mexican drug gangs and other violent criminals — with no agents on hand to swoop in, make arrests, and grab the firearms. The inevitable result of this was that the guns have been used (and will continue to be used) in many crimes, including the murder of Brian Terry, a U.S. border patrol agent. the bush administration was working with the mexican government. obamas marxist administration did not. |
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| Major_Payne User ID: 18289300 United States06/20/2012 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holder had to retract his statement because he was doing the same thing Congress did. They both assumed the other one knew. Holder couldn't say for sure the last AG knew because he was never brought in to testify. You know that ban on previous administration officials testifying Issa pushed. |
| Lubertdas (OP) User ID: 1487421 United States06/20/2012 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holder had to retract his statement because he was doing the same thing Congress did. They both assumed the other one knew. Holder couldn't say for sure the last AG knew because he was never brought in to testify. You know that ban on previous administration officials testifying Issa pushed. Quoting: Major_Payne Its more likely that he retracted his statement because HE LIED! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States06/20/2012 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holder had to retract his statement because he was doing the same thing Congress did. They both assumed the other one knew. Holder couldn't say for sure the last AG knew because he was never brought in to testify. You know that ban on previous administration officials testifying Issa pushed. Quoting: Major_Payne Its more likely that he retracted his statement because HE LIED! he lied, and so did Obama. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States06/20/2012 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does this mean the libtards will finally stop trying to blame this one on Bush too? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9117667  Hell no. They will blame Bush for the sun rising if it will further their agenda bush, headwinds,atms,kiosk,arab spring, and race. they have alot of options |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15812103  Thailand06/20/2012 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holder had to retract his statement because he was doing the same thing Congress did. They both assumed the other one knew. Holder couldn't say for sure the last AG knew because he was never brought in to testify. You know that ban on previous administration officials testifying Issa pushed. Quoting: Major_Payne You just make up any old shit just to fit your cause dont you? |
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| Resister User ID: 1461638 United States06/20/2012 09:28 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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| Resister User ID: 1461638 United States06/20/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a desperate attempt to mitigate future perjury charges. They are so hung now, the only thing standing in he way of them and prison is John I-Have-No-Balls Boehner. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
